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January -- April 2012 Posts
T.O. Danfan, Finally!Friday ticket sales finally announced for the Dukes at Moslum Amphitheatre. A lovely venue in the middle of a broken down, closed down, bankrupt, gov't (taxpayer) owned theme park....uh huh
So it's Dukes on the 12th and Bruce on the 24th. My summer music wish has been granted.
Cheers
Date: Tues, May 01, 2012, 11:31:47 ET
Posted by: B. Turnill,Dear ??? or nee poophead -
I have contributed. How 'you doin'?
Date: Mon, April 30, 2012, 21:21:32 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton RougeMaaan I wish I could get up to NYC to see Monkey House! That is the day we start our rental of "the house on the gulf coast." And the Dukes are in Gulf Shores the previous week, so a lot of decisions still to be made. Good Luck, Don and get down here. This is Jazz Fest fortnight down here, sos you have plenty of time to get MH booked for 2013.
Date: Mon, April 30, 2012, 20:32:30 ET
Posted by: MM, GDoes anybody see the logic in this?
http://www.delish.com/food/recalls-reviews/pretzelnator-burger-record-breaking-McDonalds
Date: Mon, April 30, 2012, 19:19:14 ET
Posted by: ???,B. Turnill, why exactly do you care whether Don and Walt contribute? And how would you ever know if they did or not?
Why don't YOU contribute, and not waste time speculating on and judging the actions of others?
Date: Mon, April 30, 2012, 19:14:59 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, up therehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19WhU08tP4g
Celebrating Levon the day after he passed; from a jamband weekend in Florida. The Allman Brothers perform an emotional version of The Weight. Features Grateful Dead member Bob Weir whose band Further had played it the week before at The Beacon in NYC. Enjoy.
Earlier in the day, Bruce Hornsby performs The Night They Drove Ole Dixie Down-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxtxj2yHiRc
Date: Mon, April 30, 2012, 18:26:50 ET
Posted by: B. Turnill,Will DF/WB contribute?:
http://chuckrainey.chipin.com/chuck-rainey-well-health-fund
Date: Mon, April 30, 2012, 18:19:44 ET
Posted by: gaga,Don's influence on Lady Gaga - the no pants look?
Congrats Don B. on playing with the Leonharts.
Date: Mon, April 30, 2012, 16:32:05 ET
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Date: Mon, April 30, 2012, 13:58:32 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, looking upside downHave faith, Michael! You gotta have faith, faith, faith! ♪♫
Date: Mon, April 30, 2012, 13:33:02 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachJazzassin/Jim, that's some straight up funny shit right there. What makes it even more amusing is you absolutely KNOW someone will use your posts as evidence in some Internet pissing contest.
"I know it was to be named Soulful Instinct, but Don changed it because the fans didn't like it. And it will be released on 5/23--Mayan Mardi Gras. Don was WAY into the Mayans. I got it direct from Steely Dan, himself. I read it on his site!"
Date: Mon, April 30, 2012, 13:21:20 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Toronto (L.A. at the moment)Had a blast making music with both Michael and Carolyn Leonhart April 18 in NYC at our annual Breithaupt Brothers Songbook revue (at the revamped Joe's Pub on Lafayette). Next NYC date will be Monkey House's first-ever show in Manhattan: July 26th @ the legendary Bitter End, with Brass Transit, a crazy-accurate 8-pc Chicago trib that typically plays big soft-seaters stateside! I was sincerely blown away to hear through the grapevine that none other than Michael Omartian has had great things to say about Monkey House | Headquarters -- dude is royalty, IMHO. Enjoying L.A.; drove west on Sunset yesterday...
Date: Mon, April 30, 2012, 13:11:15 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin, keytar manDonald is apparently having a big influence on Lady Gaga...
http://i.imgur.com/5FyJ5.jpg
Date: Mon, April 30, 2012, 10:26:54 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PAWhether those post's are really Donald or not, I happen to think
there funny as hell !!! But W.T.F. do I know????
Date: Mon, April 30, 2012, 08:17:03 ET
Posted by: Michael,Do you really believe that it will release on May 23rd, in just over three weeks from now? I seriously doubt it. No official word has been given on its release date. All we know for certain is that it's been mastered and, presumably, that it's in the packaging/printing phase. We don't know the actual album title nor the tracklisting, but I'm sure that it won't be long before that info is released along with sound samples, interviews with DF, album reviews, etc.
Date: Mon, April 30, 2012, 07:16:31 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton RougeMay 23. That's the date the ancient Mayans celebrated Mardi Gras (it's a Wednesday this year).
Date: Mon, April 30, 2012, 05:24:22 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, upside looking downJan,
It was supposed to be named "Swordfishtrombones", but it turned out that title was already taken.
Then it was changed to "Soulful Instinct", but after WikiLeaks actually made fans aware of it in early advance and it was recieved with grief, they had to think it over again.
They now seem to have landed on "Eternal Return Of the Same", but assuming the artist really has a preference for Friedrich Nietzsche's philosophy, the logical consequence would be to name it "The Nightfly".
It will probably be out on May 23rd, according to our Swedish correspondent, who is way more into the Kabbala and Mosaic numerology than ourselves.
Anything else?
Breaking News: Runner up: Circus Donkey
Date: Sun, April 29, 2012, 18:01:35 ET
Posted by: Steely Jan, UtahDo we know the name of Donald's new album? It'a a nice birthday present.
Date: Sun, April 29, 2012, 17:01:02 ET
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Date: Sun, April 29, 2012, 11:26:43 ET
Posted by: Chris , nhFagen's album mastered for CD, iTunes, and ....... VINYL!
Date: Sun, April 29, 2012, 09:10:36 ET
Posted by: Michael,Scott Hull.
Date: Sun, April 29, 2012, 08:32:38 ET
Posted by: Michael,Cool. Finally, an update on Don's new one.
Just think, Don Hull got to hear the finished album. Lucky!
Because of the way it was worded, when I first read the article I thought, "Donald Fagen ...Lettuce?" And then I understood that that was another album entirely.
Date: Sat, April 28, 2012, 19:15:39 ET
Posted by: search, kbNew Fagen album has been mastered for vinyl, among other things.
http://www.sonicscoop.com/2012/04/17/session-buzz-whos-recording-in-around-nyc-a-monthly-report-8/
Date: Sat, April 28, 2012, 17:43:53 ET
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Date: Sat, April 28, 2012, 12:57:42 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, posting for NapoleonI always thought that one was fake as well. Anyway last tweet was one year ago.
Just my two cents of course.
Date: Sat, April 28, 2012, 12:46:53 ET
Posted by: moray eel, I think thisI seem to remember this one being accurate.
http://twitter.com/#!/donaldfagen
m.e.
Date: Sat, April 28, 2012, 12:45:13 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, TwatterJust forget about Don & Walt and Twiddler accounts, Fakebook and anything called social networking. Per-Gunnar and Goblin is right.
Of course the verification systems fails. Twitter is first & foremost interested in many users and many tweets. Of course even Cathy Berberian has an account. Of course D & W would put up a link on their websites and in their "newsletters" if they started using those things.
I don't think Don & Walt is social networking anyway. I don't think they're social, I think they're private. And I absolutely don't think they're networking. I think they're working.
Date: Sat, April 28, 2012, 10:22:46 ET
Posted by: Twitt, Twwhoo,Joan - If those Twitter posts turn out to be by the man we revere for his zeitgeist-infused, super-cool, post-modernist ironic, darkly humourous intellect - well, then I'm the Duke of Earl. It's only marginally less disturbing to imagine he momentarily relinquished his sanity to authorise someone else to post unmonitored gibberish in his name. So - I would (desperately) like to bet my money on the failure of Twitter's 'blue tick' system to authenticate celebrity's accounts. We did have a case of that here in the UK not so long ago.
Date: Fri, April 27, 2012, 20:56:27 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly and the TwitterverseCasual Fan - I do hope it isn't a sanctioned PR rep doing it, because they are doing an abysmal job and certainly should not be billing for those "services". I could see that if DF was distracted (he's had lots of distractions and serious disruptive life events lately) he may have passed on an OK for an account in his name to be run by a PR rep, w/o vetting out the people who would be posting on his behalf. If that's the case, intervention seems appropriate!
Date: Fri, April 27, 2012, 19:30:45 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, 102.7RIP Pete Fornatele
Legendary WNEW-FM NY DJ
One of the first to break all the rules of FM popular radio in the 70s and would often play the long tunes like the title tracks on Scam and Aja.
Date: Fri, April 27, 2012, 17:28:12 ET
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Date: Fri, April 27, 2012, 14:43:05 ET
Posted by: Connie, In the vineyardNY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/27/nyregion/thousands-remember-levon-helm-of-the-band-in-woodstock.html?_r=1&nl=nyregion&emc=edit_ur_20120427
Date: Fri, April 27, 2012, 14:25:05 ET
Posted by: PGE, DF on Twitter?And the pic attached to the account is the cover for a bootleg recording. Would it be there if it is a genuine DF Twitter account? Doubt it.
And while both Donald and Walter have shown a personal interest in using the Internet for communication with the fans, their current interest in "social media" can best be summed up with these words from http://walterbecker.com/socialnetspop.html:
"Social What-working? | Facebook? Myspace? Twitter?
Is it Really Walter?
How To Tell Becker From Bunk
On the Wild Wild Worldwide Web
It's easy: Walter has exactly one authorized and legitimate page
on a social network:
http://www.myspace.com/walterbecker
... and that's more a billboard than a Myspace.
Any other page on any other site is someone else, not Walter ---
no matter what name is on the account."
I could be wrong, but...
Date: Fri, April 27, 2012, 10:02:44 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, OrlandoJoan,
I tend to agree with you that the posts in that twitter account are not coming from Donald Fagen, personally. Much to banal.
Even if "verified" as linked to him by Twitter, one wonders if the chore of posting has been given to a publicist who is just using it to throw out various Fagenisms.
CF
Date: Fri, April 27, 2012, 07:39:16 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly and the TwitterverseI posted this also on the FB Dandom.com page, and repeating here in case anyone has an opinion!
This one is for any of you using Twitter (or simply interested in DF's/WB's alleged use of it). Twitter accounts that claim to be a public figure get a little blue check next to their name if Twitter has verified that it indeed belongs to that figure... However, there is a "verified" account claiming to be Donald Fagen which I have extreme doubts about (sorry, but would DF actually tweet noting more than lyric snippets like "No static at all" or "Special delivery for Hoops McCann"?) Anyone else want to weigh in the veracity of this account? It's called @SteelyDanSays, check it out here and decide for yourself: https://twitter.com/#!/SteelyDanSays
Date: Wed, April 25, 2012, 13:46:48 ET
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Date: Tues, April 24, 2012, 18:32:20 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Towerfrom LevonHelm.com:
Services for Levon
Thursday, April 26, 2012
Levon�s friends & fans are invited to pay their final respects on Thursday, April 26, 2012 between the hours of 10 a.m. and 3 p.m. at his home/studio in Woodstock. Personal vehicles will not be permitted at the studio, however. Parking will be available at 3 locations in Woodstock: The Woodstock Playhouse 103 Mill Hill Road, Woodstock, Cucina Woodstock, 109 Mill Hill Road and Andy Lee Field, Rock City Road, Woodstock.
Buses will run continuously between 10 and 3 from Andy Lee Field and from The Woodstock Playhouse.
Thank you, all, for your kindness and respect for privacy during this very emotional time.
Date: Tues, April 24, 2012, 13:12:45 ET
Posted by: Another Scurvy, Brother@BillieRubin. Thanks for the solid picks!
Date: Tues, April 24, 2012, 06:50:47 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin, All hope is not lostPGE,
Here's another one from The Shaolin Afronauts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRDnYUDbA_0
Here's one from a group called "Mop Mop".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj0o22ClDTU&feature=related
One from a group called "Quantic".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc2vrFcvar4&feature=related
More to follow...
Date: Mon, April 23, 2012, 20:34:27 ET
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Date: Mon, April 23, 2012, 14:45:39 ET
Posted by: PGE, @Billie RubinIndeed! Thanks for the link/tip!
Date: Mon, April 23, 2012, 13:21:14 ET
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Date: Mon, April 23, 2012, 00:53:21 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin, AfronautNow here's a band that Steely Dan fans should really enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=e5Z7kn8HJGE
Date: Sun, April 22, 2012, 08:18:47 ET
Posted by: PGE, @kuleebaba, 11TOW promo spot?It was up on YouTube a couple of years ago, but was taken down. Don't know if it was done by the person who posted it or some legal department, but I've always thought that that promo spot would make a nice addition to walterbecker.com.
Date: Sun, April 22, 2012, 02:02:50 ET
Posted by: kuleebaba, 11TOW promo spot?I recall a posting a few years ago with a link to a low-budget promo video for 11TOW. IIRC, it was basically just Walter talking, and at one point Walter called Donald from a payphone and recorded his performance to put on the album... pretty funny stuff.
Anyone still have that link? Thanks!
Date: Sat, April 21, 2012, 00:17:38 ET
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Date: Fri, April 20, 2012, 23:48:57 ET
Posted by: LL, ELol. Literally grandfathered in.
If someone from DF.com is reading: There's an "it's" at the end of the first paragraph where it should be "its."
Date: Fri, April 20, 2012, 22:11:41 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
http://www.donaldfagen.com/feature_items.php?itemID=139
Date: Fri, April 20, 2012, 17:19:56 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -A very merry 4/20 to all steelers, near and far.
Make tonight a wonderful thing!
Date: Fri, April 20, 2012, 13:33:44 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,Very heartfelt message about Levon on Bob Dylan's website.......
Date: Fri, April 20, 2012, 04:02:12 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin,Pretty much explains a lot about Levon Helm. The part about healthcare and musicians really hits home. This video interview is from two months ago. Right to the end the man was very real...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVey5eGRZqk&list=FLDDVt0HMjohCdlGh5-P79qA&index=1&feature=plcp
Date: Thurs, April 19, 2012, 22:59:28 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachA sad day, indeed.
I have been a fan of the band (and Mr. Helm) even longer than I have been following Steely Dan--and I've been a fan of both starting with the respective first albums. Both represent the very best in popular music. High standards overall, excellent composition and musicianship, intelligent lyrics and the integrity to refrain from the big sellout. I didn't realize how rare this was way back in the late 60's and early 70's, but it has become all too apparent over time.
Thanks for the memories, Levon. I'll be having one more drink tonight in your honor.
RIP
Date: Thurs, April 19, 2012, 22:12:11 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, unridiumOh wel, so Iridium did not stream vibesman Bill Ware and his band tonight, perhaps we'll get "Pretty" tomorrow. Stay tuned kids!
-- ------ ----------- ---------------
Levon Helm's former Band bandmate, Robbie Robertson, released a statement Wednesday.
"...Levon is one of the most extraordinary talented people I�ve ever known and very much like an older brother to me. I am so grateful I got to see him one last time and will miss him and love him forever..."
Date: Thurs, April 19, 2012, 18:30:36 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, 54th & Broadwayhttp://theiridium.com/iridiumlive/
Can't hurt to check later today and tomoorow eves as 2 SD related shows are happening at Iridium in NYC; many shows not scheduled for live streams often occur..anywho-
Tonight: Bill Ware Quartet (*from Iridiums website- He toured with Steely Dan in the 1993- 1995 Alive in America concert tours as a member of the all-star band dubbed the �Steely Dan Orchestra�.)
Tomorrow: Bernard �Pretty� Purdie and the Hudson River Rats
(*provided the back-beat for Steely Dan�s �Aja�)
Sets are @ 8 & 10pm est.
Date: Thurs, April 19, 2012, 17:35:19 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, Such a heavy WEIGHT on my shouldershttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3rWxXjvoow
I believe this was the final performance of "The Weight" featuring Levon, The Donald & others, from Chicago, March 16, 2012.
Rest in Peace, Levon. Rest in Peace.
Date: Thurs, April 19, 2012, 16:15:49 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, buffaloRIP Levon Helms...
Take a load off Anny, take a load for free;
Take a load off Anny, And you can put the load right on me.
Date: Thurs, April 19, 2012, 15:24:20 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the TowerRIP Levon Helm
Date: Thurs, April 19, 2012, 13:43:39 ET
Posted by: c &, p<snip>
Chemo killed the disease; his voice was collateral damage. So were his finances. Caught between competing bills, he decided to pay his doctors instead of his mortgage. Inevitably, he was threatened with the loss of his home.
I can't confirm this story, but it sounds right: Bruce Springsteen showed up with a check for $1 million. Levon thanked him, said he couldn't accept it, and began the "Midnight Rambles" concert series in his barn, singing with his daughter Amy. The Rambles began attracting audiences -- and musical legends -- and soon commanded $200 a ticket. There was even a guy in a field waving a flashlight to show you where to park; naturally, he was "Helmland Security."
<snip>
Date: Thurs, April 19, 2012, 12:24:31 ET
Posted by: Kram,Thank you to all who responded... real appreciate it, such a generous community of Dan Fans... odd that i decided to post on the BB again, after quite a while, with the timing of the news of Dick Clark---Levon (who as a singing drummer myself, and a major hero of mine)---
Here is his something my wife put together for his memorial
http://youtu.be/_CkKCWcomsw
---the service was filled to the brim and overflowing in our small Vermont town, tons of musical performances, on a beautiful day, as an Eagle circled the steeple---he was very loved--- and he knew every Dan tune, but loved "Can't Buy a Thrill" and "Pretzel Logic", altho his fav was "Two Agaist Nature" and Godwhacker of course---hell he loved it all...he was also a Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra fan, but loved his heavy metal-hip hop---he was just a HUGE fan of music--
From a note left on his cross at the accident site...and as his Father, it says it all ..."From all the Fathers to all the Sons, we love you Spencer Huntley" Peace
Date: Thurs, April 19, 2012, 11:49:26 ET
Posted by: Chris, nhThanks Hoops - that link had a comment from a youtube user named STEELYDEN - his profile page is pretty funny:
http://www.youtube.com/user/STEELYDEN1861
Date: Wed, April 18, 2012, 17:49:11 ET
Posted by: Fife, Baltimore, ehKram I was very moved by your post. Think of it this way, he'd want you to go. It might be painful but it does help. When my Step-Mother passed in the summer of 2008 all of a sudden there were 2 Dan shows scheduled, she used to tease me about SD all the time, so I went and there was relief. When my Dad passed away in Oct of 2010 the Dukes had been touring and all of sudden shows were added again. I had to go The music it's self was so cathartic. It hurts but it does get better.
Fife
Date: Wed, April 18, 2012, 16:40:02 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicagoRIP, Dick Clark.
Steely Dan perform My Old School on American Bandstand (unverified):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj9Rs56u8YY
Date: Tues, April 17, 2012, 22:48:53 ET
Posted by: Billy Rubin,Very sad news about Levon Helm... I caught one of his shows up in Bridgeport, CT a couple of years ago with Donald Fagen supporting, it was a great show and he was full of life. One thing sticks out in my mind though. I remember when Don Imus was going through a near career ending episode some time back over a statement he made on his show. When this happened it seemed like every friend Don had in the business abandoned him. People who knew him for years and years turned their back on him. In the middle of this one person remained; Levon Helm...
Levon continued to perform on Don's show and offered him his steadfast friendship when it seemed like no one else would... THAT is a true friend. THAT is a man of his word. THAT is Levon Helm.
If miracles really can happen, let one happen now for this man and his family.
Bill
Date: Tues, April 17, 2012, 22:33:05 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, with a weight on my shouldersA month ago with The Donald. Thank you Levon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZpr9uetY8g&feature=related
Date: Tues, April 17, 2012, 22:26:24 ET
Posted by: Walt(z), The Lastbillboard.com
Levon Helm, a treasured voice in Americana music whose Southern drawl and busy-but-tight drumming brought an authenticity to The Band, is losing his decade-long battle with cancer, his family announced on Tuesday.
"Levon is in the final stages of his battle with cancer," a message reads on Helm's website. "Please send your prayers and love to him as he makes his way through this part of his journey."
It is signed by his daughter Amy, an artist who often performs with her father, and wife Sandy.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LEVON AT THE HELM
"The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down"
"The Weight"
"Rag Mama Rag"
"Up On Cripple Creek"
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Helm, 71, was diagnosed with throat cancer in the late 1990s and underwent intensive radiation treatment which greatly damaged his voice. Over time he was able to sing again, but his once-strong tenor had become the weathered rasp that can be heard on his Grammy winning 2007 album, "Dirt Farmer." He has carried on a busy touring schedule and hosts "Midnight Ramble" events at his barn in Woodstock, New York.
Several of his scheduled shows in recent weeks have been canceled.
At the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony on Saturday, Helm's former bandmate Robbie Robertson offered his "prayers and love" for the drummer who, early on in their partnership, was the musical leader. Levon and The Hawks emerged in 1963 after Helm and Canadian transplants Robertson, bassist Rick Danko, organist Garth Hudson and pianist Richard Manuel broke off from Ronnie Hawkins.
By the time the fivesome formed the independent version of The Band -- following a Helm-less stint backing Bob Dylan -- in the late 1960s, the group had moved to Saugerties, NY and adopted a decidedly un-psychedelic mystique, wearing old-timey clothes and writing songs that matched.
Timeless albums followed, including 1968's "Music From Big Pink," 1969's "The Band" and "Stage Fright" a year later. While the band was blessed with three gifted singers, Helm, who also played guitar and mandolin, sang lead on many of their top songs. Early favorites with Helm's drawl at the mic include "Up on Cripple Creek," "The Weight," "Chest Fever," "Rag Mama Rag," "Jemima Surrender" and "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down."
A creative lull followed this early dash, but the group found its way again with 1975's "Northern Lights -- Southern Cross" and the band-altering live album/Martin Scorsese-directed concert film "The Last Waltz" in 1978. The band carried on in different forms over the years, though tragedy has taken both of Helm's co-singers: Richard Manuel committed suicide in 1986 at 42 and Danko died of heart failure in 1999 at age 56.
"People ask me about 'The Last Waltz' all the time," Helm writes in a forward of "This Wheel's on Fire: Levon Helm and the Story of The Band." "Rick Danko dying at fifty-six is what I think about 'The Last Waltz.' It was the biggest f--kin' rip-off that ever happened to The Band -- without a doubt."
The Band was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1994.
Helm has also tried his hand at acting over the years, and appeared in several films notably "The Right Stuff" and his screen debut "Coal Miner's Daughter," in which he played Loretta Lynn's father, Ted Webb. He performed Bill Monroe's "Blue Moon
of Kentucky" on the film's soundtrack.
Date: Tues, April 17, 2012, 20:09:46 ET
Posted by: Anon, BOSKram,
It's not Boston, but a nice vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck1N1I-LzWc
Date: Tues, April 17, 2012, 16:21:10 ET
Posted by: Ben, Indyhttp://www.glidemagazine.com/hiddentrack/levon-helm-in-final-stages-of-cancer-battle/
Date: Tues, April 17, 2012, 16:19:12 ET
Posted by: note, nhttp://www.levonhelm.com/
Date: Tues, April 17, 2012, 15:18:31 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, OrlandoMotorhome, I'm heading to the St. Augustine show since it is a Friday night and a bit more convenient. But, I wish the RHE show was on a weekend because that venue is OUTSTANDING ! Not a bad seat in the joint, acoustics are excellent, and getting in and out of the place is relatively simple.
Saw Steely Dan there, what, 4 or 5 years ago and the atmosphere was just incredible. DF and WB really enjoyed themselves, you could tell. You'll have a great time, I''m sure.
Date: Tues, April 17, 2012, 15:12:03 ET
Posted by: Band man, Ramblin'The New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival announced Monday that Levon Helm has cancelled a scheduled appearance at the event.
The Woodstock resident and drummer for The Band was set to perform at the festival that starts April 27. The cancellation comes on the heels of two recent Midnight Ramble show cancellations, on April 7 and 14.
Helm also cancelled a scheduled appearance at the Wellmont Theater in Montclair, N.J. An announcement detailed Helm�s recent back problems. �Levon has been coping with a slipped disc in his back these past few weeks,� the announcement said. �Despite daily physical therapy, healing has proven to be a slower process than originally anticipated.�
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Robbie Robertson sent �love and prayers� to his former bandmate Levon Helm during a speech at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony on Saturday night. The remark has caused many fans to speculate about Helm�s health. Robertson and Helm have been at odds since The Band split in the late �70s�Helm�s feelings toward Robertson even pushed the drummer to sit out The Band�s 1994 Rock Hall induction ceremony.
Helm has been ailing for the past few weeks. The Band co-founder underwent a medical procedure earlier this year but was well enough to perform in March. Helm�s health was called into question once again last week when he postponed a series of shows due to a slipped disc in his back. Despite issuing a statement last week saying his health was otherwise �excellent,� Helm also cancelled his performances this past weekend. In other news, fans who purchased tickets to one of those postponed shows received a message stating, �Due to unforeseen circumstances, The Levon Helm band show slated for April 6th at The Wellmont Theatre, will not be re-scheduled. Levon and the band thank everyone for their continued support and are truly sorry for any inconveniences this may have caused.�
Helm�s high profile 72st birthday concert in Kingston, NY was also recently removed from his website. In addition, noted music talk show personality Matt Pinfield tweeted, �The [RnR HOF ceremony�s] memorial is starting now with who died this year and both Levon Helm of the Band and Robin.Gibb are on their death beds tonight� (though the legitimacy of Pinfield�s knowledge of Helm�s health has since been called into question).
As of press time, Helm�s camp has not issued any additional statements about the drummer�s health and the severity of his health issues are not known.
Date: Tues, April 17, 2012, 13:30:59 ET
Posted by: Technicolor Motorhome, SE U S of AAnybody going to the Dukes show in Clearwater (Tampa) in July ? ?
That Eckerd Hall doesn't get the word out very fast about their shows.
Date: Tues, April 17, 2012, 12:18:11 ET
Posted by: Chris, nhSteelyDoc, I'm assuming he means Levon Helm who has not died but rumors are his health is failing: http://www.jambands.com/news/2012/04/16/robbie-robertson-sends-love-and-prayers-to-levon-helm-at-rock-hall-ceremony
Date: Tues, April 17, 2012, 10:55:10 ET
Posted by: kram, vermontI have posted and read here b4...now, I ask u for help---I lost my 18 yr old son in a tragic accident with a tractor trailer on Halloween of last year....a month after seeing Dan with him and other friends at the Wang in Boston--- he LOVED Dan...LOVED...it was a passion we shared- I started bringing him to Dan concerts when he was only 10...he was an extraordinary young musician .. he has (no matter what u believe) communicated with me MANY times through music, I am also a lifelong musician...it's almost always tunes we heard that night (Any Major Dude - Ricki Don't lose that #) But-- it is Deacon Blues that will come at the most interesting times...always at my lowest---have always thought it was a tad profound that this is the one he throws me the most) my biggest fear? That I will never be able to see SD again...just don't know if I can handle it--weird huh....love to hear from anyone who cares to comment---thanks---and thanks to Don and Walt for making this incredible music that I shared with my beautiful son... Love you Spencer
Date: Tues, April 17, 2012, 09:12:16 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Toweryo Sad/grateful:
what are you talking about? who died?
Date: Tues, April 17, 2012, 00:55:29 ET
Posted by: Sad/grateful, TN/NYLet us all please pray L.H. up 2 the angles 2nite. May God bless and comfort him
Date: Mon, April 16, 2012, 17:02:25 ET
Posted by: DW, GretschI was getting winded just watching Carlock. A machine I tell ya!
Date: Mon, April 16, 2012, 16:10:37 ET
Posted by: Wallace A, CityWhat kind of gigs does Krantz do to pay the bills? Commercials? Broadway?
Date: Sun, April 15, 2012, 21:10:07 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SFKrantz's earlier stuff sounds really great,
Signals and Long to be loose.
His last two are great here and there, but one can tell he's just getting his feet wet with vocal arrangements and writing - a bit pedestrian still in that regard.
Date: Sun, April 15, 2012, 09:48:36 ET
Posted by: K Turabian,RE Krantz' group: Sometimes interesting yet dull.
Date: Sat, April 14, 2012, 21:17:07 ET
Posted by: H,kzkzkz - Watching it now. Fantastic. Hope a lot of you guys are catching this. There's another set at 10:00.
Whew!
Date: Sat, April 14, 2012, 20:47:28 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, streamingCarlock is taking it up a notch with Krantz. Live. NOW.
http://theiridium.com/iridiumlive/
Date: Sat, April 14, 2012, 08:30:41 ET
Posted by: Faccia Brute,RE Krantz'Howie 61: He's good w/ the whack harmonies and grooves, however, he needs to collaborate w/ an equally twisted tunesmith/songster to really get it happ'nin'.
Date: Thurs, April 12, 2012, 19:38:56 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, NNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYCCCCCCCCCCCCWayne Krantz w/Keith Carlock & Tim Lefebvre; both sets streaming live from Iridium in NYC, Saturday April 14th @ 8pm & 10pm.
http://theiridium.com/iridiumlive/
Date: Thurs, April 12, 2012, 09:10:02 ET
Posted by: Steely Dan TRIBUTE SHOW, New YorkHey Dan Fan's!
Check out this upcoming tribute show to "Steely Dan" on June 8th! It's gonna be a good one, and we'd love to get some REAL DEAL fans out to hear the band =)
Here's the Facebook Event:
http://www.facebook.com/events/153478798111628/
Here's our promo video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ-5ZoZUD10
Here's our website:
www.tributetheband.net
Hope to see you there!
TRIBUTE
Date: Wed, April 11, 2012, 19:34:17 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Towerfrom the Beacon Theater Newsletter:
The Dukes of September
The Beacon Theatre
August 1 & 2
The Dukes of September - Michael McDonald, Donald Fagen, & Boz Scaggs - return to The Beacon Theatre this summer.
Presale tickets are available TOMORROW, Thursday, April 12 from 10AM to 10PM, before they go on sale to the general public on Friday, April 13 at 11AM.
PASSWORD: DUKES
Date: Tues, April 10, 2012, 18:36:05 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KYDoc Mu -- I love that section of the song so much. Krantz's solo is great, but also the chord changes, the horns, the percussion, the Rhodes stabs, everything is just perfect.
Date: Tues, April 10, 2012, 15:49:39 ET
Posted by: Josh Allen, New York CityNot sure if Walter Becker ever reads these posts, and if anyone knows him or talks to him. If so, let him know I was just about to buy that '62 Gibson Melody Maker he just picked upon 14th St.! I'm sure he'll treat it well but was saving up to buy it and found out he got to it first. If this message get's to him, I'm a DIY singer/songwriter producing my first album. I'm looking for a similar model vintage electric, if he has any others he'd like to get rid of, I'm open to buying one!
I know it's a far fetch, but thought this was the place to put out the message if any...(maybe he can guest appear at one of my shows to make up for it? - kidding of course, but wouldn't that be awesome)
Date: Tues, April 10, 2012, 12:31:49 ET
Posted by: Copyright Dot Gov, The CloudA "PA" registration is for compositions. A "SR" registration is for sound recordings. It is possible to submit a combined "PA" and "SR" registration but with "big time" artists the general procedure is for the songwriter/publisher to file the "PA" registration for the song and the record label to file the "SR" registration for the recording. Looking at a PA registration gives you very little information about when a recording was made other than it would have to be on or after the date the song was created.
Date: Mon, April 09, 2012, 13:36:14 ET
Posted by: Tour, PlotterThe official Boz Scaggs website does not list Dukes dates.
Date: Mon, April 09, 2012, 12:32:30 ET
Posted by: nate,why no official word from donald on the dukes tour. unlike mike and boz who have dates up on thier sites.
I think donald could care less if steely dan fans go see the dukes.
I thought there was more boz and mike fans in 2009, maybe donald did too.
Date: Mon, April 09, 2012, 10:35:17 ET
Posted by: Hutch,You got that right Doc!
Date: Mon, April 09, 2012, 00:45:29 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,2:24-3:39 fools
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGt-uguxWsc&feature=related
Date: Sun, April 08, 2012, 19:14:14 ET
Posted by: Denise, HinktownHad to laugh today...we went out to a restaurant with live music and they played Peg. At the opening few notes, my brother and I looked at each other and said "Steely Dan!" at the same time. I guess its a family affliction:)
Happy Easter to all.
Date: Sat, April 07, 2012, 01:46:09 ET
Posted by: ww, ihttp://www.jaycollinsband.com/albums_blues.html
Fagen's contribution is piano on Waiting for Snow to Come
Date: Fri, April 06, 2012, 18:13:48 ET
Posted by: Technicolor Motorhome, S E United StatesDC Native...I just looked at the venue ticketing site and it still lists all kinds of orch. reserved at $42....very reasonable with the way ticket prices are going. It's one of those places that doesn't use ticketmaster (?) to sell tickets...thus if a person looks at Ticketmaster or Live Nation or even Pollstar - they might not be seeing all the gigs there are to pick from. Ruth Eckerd Hall in the Tampa area is one of those who do their own selling. And Winstar Casino in the Oklahoma/Ft.Worth TX area where I saw SD last summer is that way.
Does anybody know what is one the "Dukes" setlist this tour??
Date: Fri, April 06, 2012, 17:39:11 ET
Posted by: Scratch That, ----It's a Michael McDonald solo show.
Date: Fri, April 06, 2012, 17:32:41 ET
Posted by: New Dukes Date, USSeptember 8
Washington, PA
Meadows Racetrack & Casino - Outdoors
Date: Thurs, April 05, 2012, 20:42:29 ET
Posted by: Augusta, DC NativeI am just getting savvy about tickets and pricing. I purchased a ticket for the Dukes of September for Wolf Trap in VA for $42 in the orchestra section for $42. On the day the tickets became available. Now, this appears to be worth much more. Trying to understand the concept. How could an orchestra seat now sell for $250 when the original price was $42!
Date: Thurs, April 05, 2012, 14:16:29 ET
Posted by: Bill, SFRumor!
Don Breithaupt's "Money House" to perform live in NYC! July 2012!
Date: Wed, April 04, 2012, 23:56:01 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachPGE, thanks for those links. I have to admit to being a bit confused by the information in the http://www.faqs.org/ site.
Obviously there are many different songs named Confide in Me on that page, as well as other Dan/Fagen songs. I guess I'm a bit confused as to why you focused on a song titled Rough Stuff for your quick analysis.
Is Rough Stuff an earlier name for Confide in Me?
Lacking any background info, and simply treating the info at face value, it looks to me as though this site lists Confide in Me, by Donald Fagen, as being created in 1990, the year before Manhattan Transfer released their version.
ype of Work:Musical work
Registration Number / Date:PAu001439692 / 1990-11-15
Date of Creation:1990
Title:Confide in me / D. Fagen.
Copyright Claimant:Freejunket Music
Notes:Music & words.
Authorship on Application:Donald Fagen.
Again I have no experience with this site, so you may know more about how they list things.
Date: Wed, April 04, 2012, 23:24:16 ET
Posted by: SS, HKYes, a 'demo.' I wonder, aren't demos made so that people can come along and hear the song and maybe record it, as the Manhattan Transfer did ? Does it follow that if DF made a demo that it would have been pre the MT release ?
Date: Wed, April 04, 2012, 21:56:58 ET
Posted by: SharkDeVille, at the wheelso Don's 'Confide In Me' that we all know and love is considered just a demo... same with 'Big Noise, New York'?
hell of a demo.
Date: Wed, April 04, 2012, 05:56:16 ET
Posted by: SS, HKThanks PGE.
Looking at who played on the track, it's guys who were around during the Rock N' Soul years and Kama sessions, so may be the DF demo was done after the Manhattan Transfer release.
Date: Tues, April 03, 2012, 18:57:54 ET
Posted by: Typingly yours,, PGEsolso = solo
nut = but
Date: Tues, April 03, 2012, 18:54:57 ET
Posted by: And here's another page..., re: Confide In Mehttp://www.faqs.org/copyright/reeling-in-the-years-w-and-m-walter-becker-and-donald-fagen-3/#b
listing the following:
Type of Work:
Musical work
Registration Number / Date:
PAu000932011 / 1987-02-26
Date of Creation:
1986
Title:
Rough stuff / music by Donald Fagen.
Description:
2 p.
Copyright Claimant:
Freejunket Music
If you believe this ity was written in 1986, registered in 1987 ... nut as far as recording goes...?
Checking out some more titles on the page will only raise more questions :)
/PGE
Date: Tues, April 03, 2012, 18:45:14 ET
Posted by: @SS, just my 2 centsThis page
http://www.broberg.pp.se/df_tmrwsgls.htm#ConfideInMe
has Confide In Me listed as produced by Donald Fagen. Which I guess makes sense for a demo. Nothing about what year it was recorded, though.
The Brian S book says Fagen started writing the songs in 1988 and recording the album took three years so... Must've been written before Manhattan Transfer recorded it, and DF:s demo was probaly recorded before Manhattan Transfer's version. But then again...
Let's hope Donald can clear things up in his brand new solso album promoting blog named "The Donald Fagen blog - This is what I do and this is how I do it".
/PGE
Date: Tues, April 03, 2012, 02:49:22 ET
Posted by: SS, HKClarification....
When was the DF 'demo' of Confide in Me that appeared as the B side of Tomorrow's Girls (circa 1993) and on the DF Trilogy recorded, and who produced it ?
Date: Mon, April 02, 2012, 23:06:33 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachDenise, the images I looked at were from The Songbird and the Pigeon.
http://www.jaycollinsband.com/albums/
I see now that it is NOT the new one.
Thanks for the clarification.
Date: Mon, April 02, 2012, 22:58:24 ET
Posted by: SS, HKQuestion for the faithful:
When was Confide in Me recorded ?
I know it appeared on a 1991 Manhattan Transfer album.
Also, who produced it ?
Cheers
Date: Mon, April 02, 2012, 20:37:26 ET
Posted by: Anon, 8Dean, I think the album on his website is several years old. It's a forthcoming one with Fagen. Dangentially, he does give thanks to his family "back in Oregon."
Date: Mon, April 02, 2012, 20:01:30 ET
Posted by: Denise, HinktownHappy birthday to our "Fezman"...
best wishes Fezzie!
Date: Mon, April 02, 2012, 19:44:59 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!Denise, I see that too, now. But looking at the album pics (also on Jay's site) there is NO mention of Fagen--not even in the "thank you" section. Seems a bit odd. Maybe someone added a bit of unsubstantiated flourish on the site--or perhaps someone neglected to add Don to the album. I suppose it is possible he had an uncredited performance, but I would imagine he would rank a "thank you" of some sort.
Probably no big deal, but odd nonetheless.
Date: Mon, April 02, 2012, 15:43:54 ET
Posted by: Danfan, TorontoSorry about the mix up with the Toronto date on the 19th of August.
It has now been confirmed from a good source within TM.
Sunday August.12 Molson Amphitheater / Time:TBA
Date: Mon, April 02, 2012, 12:26:41 ET
Posted by: Denise, web surfingDean, I was looking at Jay Collins' web page
http://www.jaycollinsband.com/about/
The last line at the bottom mentions DF.
Date: Sun, April 01, 2012, 22:17:14 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachOne interesting thing about Jay Collins' band is keyboard player Dred Scott. Not only does he have a famous name, apparently he was a homeless street musician in Denver for a while:
http://www.heyreverb.com/2011/07/15/dred-scott-homeless-musician/
I will leave all the jokes about the "decision" to use Dred Scott to you history buffs.
Date: Sun, April 01, 2012, 22:07:58 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachWeb Surfing,
I don't see any mention of Fagen on the Jay Collins album credits. What am I missing?
Date: Sun, April 01, 2012, 18:30:42 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicagoThe latest edition of the Dandom Digest was just mailed a few minutes ago. This one covered from from March 10-31, 2012. (The previous Dandom Digest was dated March 9, 2012.)
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The following are the subject headlines of the Dandom Digest for March 10-31, 2012.
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- Dukes at Jazz Aspen Snowmass
- Dukes in Aspen 6/22
- Over 40 Dukes Dates and Counting...
- About the Dukes at Santa Barbara
- "SPOILER": 3/16-Chicago: Levon Helm, with Donald, et al perform In Chicago
- "SPOILER": 3/17--Chicago: Levon Helm Blue Jean Gala
- 1993: Roger Nichols on Kama, more
- Herington & Carlock at BB King's NYC THIS FRIDAY 4/6
- Two Fabulous NYC Shows by Catherine Russell
- Catherine Russell in the Nederlands
- New Wayne Krantz Album w/Carlock, more
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Thanks for your support through the years, especially Pete and Shari and Gus and remembering Mark and Bill.
Jim
Date: Sun, April 01, 2012, 15:59:30 ET
Posted by: Web, surfing"Jay�s new CD is coming in April 2012 and features guest spots by Fagen, Helm, and Larry Campbell."
http://www.jaycollinsband.com/about/
Date: Sun, April 01, 2012, 14:32:39 ET
Posted by: I believe you, JoeyBecause they are going to need help filling the Beacon on consecutive weeknights.
Date: Sun, April 01, 2012, 13:58:13 ET
Posted by: Joey, newyorkjust passed the beacon in ny and was told the dukes show will be a special dan show those nights. you heard it here first..
Date: Sun, April 01, 2012, 12:08:56 ET
Posted by: FY, IJay Collins is Fagen's step son in law.
Date: Fri, March 30, 2012, 16:50:06 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, OhioDean thanks for your faith in me I am a dumbass I got email today Mich is the 10th I can go to both thank the Lord Frnt row again I hope but I hope the weather is better than the other two times I seen Mr Fagen w the Dan there! Rain whole show first time and last yr was so hot it almost killed us!!! Oh well As long as I am there!
Date: Fri, March 30, 2012, 09:41:00 ET
Posted by: X1, PDean,
After a few more shots you should try doing the old Johnny Carson/Jack Webb skit about the Cleveland Copper Clappper Caper.
Date: Thurs, March 29, 2012, 19:10:14 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!After another shot it hit me that Cleveland is the wrong way to drive if you are heading to Mi (have another drink, Dino).
Still, only a couple hours out of the way.
Date: Thurs, March 29, 2012, 19:08:10 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!Klaus,
Cleveland on the 14th! Do you drive to Mi or fly? Drive through Cleveland, or fly from Cleveland. I have faith you can pull this off.
Date: Thurs, March 29, 2012, 18:25:53 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohioDean long time no post I am sick!! I meet my friends every year in Mich on the 15 of Aug I am kicked in the ass Had front row at the zoo last yr for The Dan oh screw me
Date: Thurs, March 29, 2012, 15:56:58 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!Oops.
I meant Updraught and Dukes. Screw IX IV (just kidding of course.)
Bartender, more shots!
Date: Thurs, March 29, 2012, 15:55:22 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!St Augustine. YES! Right down the street from my condo.
Thanks to Updraught and IX IV.
I wasn't able to catch any of the 1st Dukes' shows or the last Dan tour so I am REALLY Jonesing. Despite the likelihood of it being VERY hot and humid, I will be there with bells on. (I may wear some clothes, too.)
Date: Thurs, March 29, 2012, 12:19:38 ET
Posted by: IX, IVWhat exactly is The Borgata "Theater" I wonder. They have two venues for live music, and neither is called that.
Date: Thurs, March 29, 2012, 12:09:52 ET
Posted by: Updraught, Philly AreaDukes dates from Boz Scaggs website:
Dates
June 20 - The Fabulous Fox - St Louis - MO
June 22 - Jazz Aspen Snowmass - Benedict Music Tent - Aspen - CO [Article]
June 24 - The Joint - Hard Rock Hotel - Las Vegas - NV
June 25 - Humphreys Concerts by the Bay - San Diego - CA
June 27 - Wells Fargo Center for the Performing Arts - Santa Rosa - CA
June 28 - Gibson Amphitheatre - Universal City - CA
June 30 - Civic Auditorium - San Jose - CA
July 01 - Paramount - Oakland - CA
July 03 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara - CA
July 05 - Britt Pavilion - Jacksonville - OR
July 06 - Chateau Ste-Michele - Woodenville - WA
July 07 - Orpheum - Vancouver - BC
July 10 - Paramount - Denver - CO
July 11 - Vilar Center - Beaver Creek, CO
July 13 - The Brady Theater - Tulsa - OK
July 14 - Verizon Theater - Grand Prairie - TX
July 15 - ACL Live at Moody Theater - Austin - TX
July 17 - Woodlands Pavilion - Woodlands - TX
July 18 - Majestic Theater - San Antonio - TX
July 20 - Verizon Wireless Amphitheater - Alpharetta - GA
July 21 - Amphitheater at The Wharf - Orange Beach - AL
July 24 - Ruth Eckherd Hall - Clearwater - FL
July 25 - Hard Rock Hotel and Casino - Hollywood - FL
July 27 - St. Augustine Amphitheater - St. Augustine - FL
July 28 - Tuscaloosa Amphitheater - Tuscaloosa - AL
August 01 - Beacon Theater - New York - NY
August 02 - Beacon Theater - New York - NY
August 04 - Count Bassie Theater - Red Bank - NJ
August 05 - Borgata Theater - Atlantic City - NJ
August 06 - WolfTrap - Vienna - VI
August 08 - Musikfest - Bethlehem - PA
August 09 - Wang Theatre - Boston - MA
August 11 - CMAC - Canandaigua - NY
August 12 - Molson Canadian Amphitheater - Toronto - ON
August 14 - Jacob's Pavilion - Cleveland - OH
August 15 - Zoo - Toledo - OH
August 17 - Pine Knob - Detroit - MI
August 18 - Kresge Auditorium - Interlochen - MI
August 20 - The Riverside Theater - Milwaukee - WI
August 22 - The Pavilion - Ravinia - Highland Park - IL
August 23 - Fraze Pavilion - Kettering - OH
August 24 - The Lawn at White River State Park - Indianapolis, IN
September 10 - PNC Pavilion - Cincinatti - OH [Unconfirmed]
September 27 - Red Rocks Amphitheatre - Morrison - CO [Unconfirmed]
More dates to come.......
Date: Thurs, March 29, 2012, 12:04:21 ET
Posted by: Dukes, Updatehttp://mickieszoo.blogspot.com/2012/03/dukes-of-september-to-tour.html
Lots of dates yet to be reported here. Looks to be comprehensive.
Date: Wed, March 28, 2012, 22:31:45 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachJay Collins article/interview"
http://www.bestsaxophonewebsiteever.com/jazz-saxophone-firebrand-jay-collins-takes-a-leap-to-the-funky-side/
Date: Wed, March 28, 2012, 22:27:44 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachDoc, thanks for the info.
If anyone else was wondering---
Shannon Forrest: Nashville based drummer. Lot's of studio work, apparently:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMzHoKeKiko
Jay Collins: Sax. Lot's of credits including Levon Helm, Jacky Terrasson (very underrated jazz pianist) and his own band:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0hn4W01vus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oRb8JH61ik
Not sure if these are the best, or most representative, vids. They are the vids I came across first. You can click around on others once you get there--as I plan to do now.
Date: Wed, March 28, 2012, 22:15:41 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Towerdukes band announced:
Dukes of September Rhythm Revue Coming to Santa Barbara Bowl
Donald Fagen, Michael McDonald and Boz Scaggs will perform as one on July 3; tickets go on sale Saturday
By Jesse Lee Weiss for Nederlander Concerts | Published on 03.28.2012
1
The Dukes of September Rhythm Revue will come to the Santa Barbara Bowl at 7 p.m. Tuesday, July 3. Tickets go on sale at noon this Saturday, March 31.
Following the fervent reception of their previous tour in summer/fall of 2010, Grammy Award-winning singer/songwriters Donald Fagen, Michael McDonald and Boz Scaggs are hitting the road again this summer as The Dukes of September Rhythm Revue.
To the delight of fans, the three hit-making artists will appear on stage, together as one band, to perform a show consisting of their signature mix of blue-eyed soul, rock, jazz and R&B.
With the revamped 2012 Dukes of September Rhythm Revue, Fagen, McDonald and Scaggs are giving fans an unprecedented opportunity to hear them delve deep into their individual classic catalogs of music, along with selected hits and tributes to their influences.
The Dukes have once again assembled a stellar band for the occasion, and will be accompanied by Jon Herington (guitar); Freddie Washington (bass); Shannon Forest (drums); Michael Leonhart, Walt Weiskopf and Jay Collins (horns); Jim Beard (organ); plus background singers Carolyn Leonhart and Catherine Russell.
Don�t miss your chance to see the Dukes of September Rhythm Revue at the Santa Barbara Bowl on July 3. Tickets range from $39 to $93, plus applicable service charges. The Santa Barbara Bowl is located at 1122 N. Milpas St. Call 805.962.7411.
Tickets are available at all Ticketmaster outlets, including the Arlington Theatre, the Santa Barbara Bowl box office and Walmart.
Date: Wed, March 28, 2012, 18:31:39 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago"Hey U never know" : Funny is ALWAYS Steely Dan-related! Thanks much for the laugh!
Date: Wed, March 28, 2012, 18:16:36 ET
Posted by: Hey, u never knowThe last two posts were at 16:17 and 17:16. As the last post was about mega millions, I think those numbers mean something.
Date: Wed, March 28, 2012, 17:16:27 ET
Posted by: Dreaming Big, U$A, U$AThis Friday's MegaMillions jackpot is now a half billion dollars. $500,000,000. Donald and Walter need to do a promotional Heavy Rollers Tour Show NOW!
Date: Wed, March 28, 2012, 16:17:02 ET
Posted by: Dukes, UpdateGrand Prairie, TX on July 14 is popping up a few places.
http://wncx.radio.com/2012/03/28/fagen-mcdonald-scaggs-dukes-of-september-rhythm-revue-2012-tour/
Date: Wed, March 28, 2012, 15:24:27 ET
Posted by: Technicolor Motorhome, SE U SDukes should play Ryman Auditorium in one of M. Mc's favorite places - Nashville, TN.
Ryman is Pollstar's "theater size" concert venue of the year award winner for two consecutive years running.
Date: Wed, March 28, 2012, 12:33:24 ET
Posted by: Elgin, BostonDan lifer and beloved Duke-ette, Grammy Award winning vocalist Catherine Russell will premiere a program inspired by collaborations between her father, pioneering pianist and orchestra leader Luis Russell, and his life-long friend and the greatest jazzman of all - Louis Armstrong. The concerts, celebrating the release of her new album - "Strictly Romancin'", will take place at Jazz at Lincoln Center's Allen Room on Friday and Saturday March 30 & 31, 2012, with two shows nightly (7:30pm & 9:30pm), located on Broadway at 60th Street in New York City. For tickets call 212-721-6500 or visit www.jalc.org
For these shows, Catherine will lead a 10 piece orchestra, including:
Catherine Russell - vocals
Matt Munisteri � guitar, arranger, musical director
Mark Shane � piano
Jon Erik-Kellso � trumpet, arranger
John Allred � trombone
Dan Block - sax, clarinet
Andy Farber-sax, arranger
Lee Hudson � bass
Mark McLean � drums
Dave Brown � trumpet
Scott Robinson � horns
See you there!
Date: Tues, March 27, 2012, 19:25:04 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!tre,
Google is your friend.
According to Wikipedia, Jon will be 58 on April 14th (my sister's birthday!).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Herington
Date: Tues, March 27, 2012, 17:07:52 ET
Posted by: tre,How old is jon herington?
Date: Tues, March 27, 2012, 15:32:55 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, TrollingPGE, I can verify some of those off concert site pollstar, which includes some ticket info:
http://www.pollstar.com/resultsArtist.aspx?ID=237585&SortBy=Date&SearchBy=dukes%20of%20september
CF
Date: Tues, March 27, 2012, 14:21:56 ET
Posted by: PGE, May contain errorsSo this is my Dukes search-the-internet/cut-and-paste-list as of today:
June 20 - Fox Theatre - St. Louis, MO.
June 22 - Jazz Aspen Snowmass June Festival - Aspen, CO.
June 24 - The Joint at Hard Rock Hotel - Las Vegas Las Vegas, NV.
June 25 - Humphreys Concerts By The Bay - San Diego, CA.
June 28 - Gibson Amphitheatre - Universal City, CA.
July 3 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA.
July 11 - Vilar Performing Arts Center - Beaver Creek, CO.
July 13 - The Brady Theater - Tulsa, OK.
July 18 - Majestic Theatre - San Antonio, TX.
August 4 - Count Basie Theater - Red Bank, NJ.
August 6 - WolfTrap - Vienna, VI
August 9 - Wang Theatre - Boston, MA. [Listed on michaelmcdonald.com]
August 12 - Toronto, Canada. [Unconfirmed]
August 20 - The Riverside Theater - Milwaukee, WI.
August 22 - The Pavilion - Ravinia, Highland Park, IL
August 23 - Fraze Pavilion - Kettering, OH.
August 24 - The Lawn at White River State Park - Indianapolis, IN.
September 10 - PNC Pavilion - Cincinatti, OH. [Unconfirmed]
September 27 - Red Rocks Amphitheatre - Morrison, CO. [Unconfirmed]
Date: Tues, March 27, 2012, 11:23:56 ET
Posted by: T.O. Danfan, at homeJust want to add my thanks to Hoops for keeping this special place alive all these years. I've been comimg around here for about 10 years and will continue to visit and communicate with the (mostly) great people who take time from their busy lives to post stuff about our favorite group.
An Aug 12 date has been talked about for the Dukes in Toronto. Has anyone seen an oficial confirmation of this anywhere? I can't find anything official.
Cheers
Date: Tues, March 27, 2012, 10:40:49 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicagoBeen pre-occupied with some stuff...so just checking in and pleased to see all the new Dukes Dates added.
But most of all....
WoW! Or Whoahh! Many thanks for all the kind words about the Dandom Digest and all...who knew back in 1993 that WE would still be around--albeit morphed into a different kinda cat.
I emphasize WE, despite the many thanks that seem to use my name or really the name of the mythical character I play here. I suspect I get a little more undeserved appreciation because of my lousy bouts when I play the martyr card; really, I'm really so lucky. Being lucky is what I've learned from many of you, especially Mark "Boston Rag" Drinan and Pete. You know, without everyone else--past and present--this would be an awfully boring place. And I've learned so much from all of you--about Steely Dan and how people relate. Bizarrely enough, I'd say all hanging with all of you obsessing about Donald and Walter have influenced my belief in the Golden Rule--hint: it has to do with humor and gratitude.
So anyways, in case you're relatively new, what we see hear at Dandom today started out from the rec.music.gdead group; morphed into an email reflector, thanks to Paul (a guy who worked in running shorts and regularly packed a gun at work and a guy named "The Barfmaster" as well as the National Science Foundation and the University of Illinois.) Maybe you remember when we were steelydan at stcs.mrl.uiuc.edu and had a Gopher site that shared its host with Nobel Prize-winning scientists--not making that part up. As the internet changed--remember the first time we got spam?--we morphed into a Daily Digest. There was a Digest EVERY DAY for something like two years from August 1993 to Spring 1995. Or so it seemed. I remember insisting on doing Digests on Christmas, Thanksgiving, even when I travelled, back when internet access was rare. I was in NJ for a day in 1994 and snuck into a Rutger's computer lab so we could have a Digest. I believe we also had the first Steely Dan Fan website in 1994. Our discography got spun off and eventually disappeared. It was such a big deal to have scanned images of the album covers--a little annoying when 12" X 12" scanners--heck any scanner--was hard to access. And then when it seemed like the time for email messages about Steely Dan had passed, Pete Fogel convinced me otherwise. Speaking of Pete, we have him to thank for inspiring what is best about the Blue.
One thing I'd love to make clear--I'd love to have a like-minded partner on this site or at least consider parts of it. We have the Digest, the Blue, the Radio station (really needs updating at the expense of shortening the set list, the Danfest lists, on and on...
But enough about the techo trappings...my favorite part of Dandom is when it is FUNNY. Some of my favorite reads have been when we've had essay contests. There was one where we came up with ideas for adding Vegas-sy touches to SD shows to placate the critics -- costumes for Donald and Walter with special sets and I think even a giant poodle. Another memory was from early 1994 when Roger Nichols submitted a contest entry for the Steely Dan Fantasy contest that was hilarious--but it went over readers' heads.
Another favorite was when more than a few of you starred in our Steely Dan Fan "iDanvention" for the SDTour2K. A lot of people didn't get it then, but basically, it was DanFan YouTube five or six years ahead of its time. You guys were great...I need to load up all those videos to YouTube.
Anyhow, I can be a moody bastard, but you people--and Walter and Donald--are what make it all great. Hey 19 years...here's to 20.
Jim
Date: Tues, March 27, 2012, 06:48:52 ET
Posted by: Still Sparkin', Hong KongThanks Hoops for all the time and money you've spent on this site.
I've learned a lot through the years by coming here.
Date: Tues, March 27, 2012, 06:36:01 ET
Posted by: Tour Plot, oI would expect an Atlantic City date to surface the night before Red Bank, NJ.
Date: Tues, March 27, 2012, 00:17:57 ET
Posted by: Ben, IndyFrom Boz's site: Dukes in St. Louis
http://www.fabulousfox.com/shows_page_single.aspx?usID=323
Date: Mon, March 26, 2012, 23:43:23 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, The Cuervo Gold Congrats Hoopshttp://michaelmcdonald.com/michaelMcDonaldTour.html
17 Dukes dates listed (so far)
Date: Mon, March 26, 2012, 21:02:03 ET
Posted by: Bobbo, CowtownWow,
Hoops, it's a wonder and a joy that you've passed this, another milestone in your journey, bringing us the Dan, and all its inherent skeevy countenance, one drop at a time...
We've shared a lot here, and it's been at times wondrously joyous, tearfully revealing, painfully titillating, and captioned by prophets and fools and the daunting, lilting prose of us all, we only have you to thank for the whole experience, as it lies (and is equally and oftentimes quite truthful, as well).
I'll hold on to my memories of Dallas in '00, and Chumash as well, for my own memories; but what you've accomplished here encompasses all that is The Pulse of us Danners, worldwide. And for that I thank you, and offer cheers for you. (And if there's another big Danfest, I'm afraid I'll be tempted to sing you a tune. You've been forewarned, Bubba.)
You're the Man, Hoops. That is all. Thanks for all that you do.
Okay,
Bobbo
Date: Mon, March 26, 2012, 14:13:19 ET
Posted by: Another, DateLas Vegas June 24 also on Live Nation.
Date: Mon, March 26, 2012, 14:06:37 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,Hoops:
Please add my Happy 19th Anniversary wishes to the collection , and , many thanks for ALL that you do for us crazy Steely Dan fans.
Best Wishes !!!
Date: Mon, March 26, 2012, 13:59:12 ET
Posted by: Up, DateLive Nation now listing Jun 28 at the Gibson Amphitheatre.
Date: Mon, March 26, 2012, 08:14:26 ET
Posted by: Dukes, Updatehttp://www.bradytheater.com
July 13.
Date: Sun, March 25, 2012, 08:13:39 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, time fliesHey 19! Happy Anniversary, Dandom! Thanks a bunch Jim & a big hug from Norway!
And also, we DO remember the Queen Of Soul:
Hey 70! (Aretha Louise Franklin, March 25. 1942) Happy Birthday!
Date: Sun, March 25, 2012, 06:35:13 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, PhraxosOutre Jim! Outre Hoops!
Date: Sat, March 24, 2012, 21:12:23 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachPGE, thanks for the heads-up on the anniversary.
Hoops, you da best. Much appreciation for all you do keeping this place for sharing the things we know and love with those of my kind.
Happy Fucking Anniversary!
Date: Sat, March 24, 2012, 20:12:21 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,Thanks Jim!
Date: Sat, March 24, 2012, 19:51:35 ET
Posted by: Hutch,Well said PGE ...
Jim, what a great job you've done all these years. I know of few people who have the patience and sense of fairness that you've demonstrated here time and time again. Not to mention your tremendous enthusiasm for the artists.
Happy Anniversary and thanks for doing what you do.
Date: Sat, March 24, 2012, 18:38:42 ET
Posted by: PGE, Hey Jim!Happy "Hey 19"th year for The Bluebook, dandom.com, The Dandom Digest!
As I've written before on the above places; when I first went online with my Amiga computer in the early 1990's I did a random search - on Alta Vista - for two of my favourite artists. "Elton John" hooked me up with The 22nd Row run by Jim McKay. And "Steely Dan" led me to The Dandom Digest run by ... the very same Jim McKay! For a few innocent days there I basically thought that Jim was running this whole Internet thingy by himself.
Congratulations to Jim and all other fans who've kept this place running for all these years. A place where you can go to - in an internet-kind-of-way - meet other people that enjoy Steely Dan. Feel free to celebrate the anniversary this whole weekend. I know I will.
Date: Sat, March 24, 2012, 12:51:47 ET
Posted by: Reely Dan, ChicagoWe the 'Dan faithful' would LOVE your attendance at the REELY DAN show this SATURDAY, MARCH 24 at the PHEASANT RUN MAINSTAGE THEATRE in beautiful St. Charles, IL! For those of you in to Chicago area . . . please consider joining us for "An Evening with Steely Dan Tribute ... REELY DAN!" A splendid time is guaranteed for all!
Date: Sat, March 24, 2012, 03:41:19 ET
Posted by: Phil, Pau FranceGood morning America,
looking for Dan connections with other artists, there are many for sure with Michael Franks and the French division of Rhino records is releasing those days the perfect MFranks boxset, check it here :
http://michaelfranks.fr/rhino_EN.html
All the songs are remastered from the original masters, you will hear them like you never did and you've got not only 3 cd's full of the best stuff he produced over the years but also the live album recorded down under with a cooking band and a 5th cd full of rarities and never released songs.
For the direct connection, Walter Becker produced a few songs for him but you all knew that and in an interview to a french magazine, Michael said that Donald once came to see him in the studio and when MFranks told him he was tired of staying there, Donald said "Hey you just started tthe process ! " or something like that, I'll find the interview and post a part of it here when I find the time, it's a long and very interesting one.
Anyway, do yourself a favor and get that boxset .
Have a nice day
Philippe
Date: Fri, March 23, 2012, 17:09:34 ET
Posted by: Danfan, TorontoDUKES....Toronto / Molson Amp / Aug 19. Confirmed!!!!!
Date: Fri, March 23, 2012, 14:41:51 ET
Posted by: Dukes, UpdateLive Nation showing a San Diego date of Jun 25.
Date: Fri, March 23, 2012, 09:53:42 ET
Posted by: Ben, IndyDukes in Ohio:
http://www.fraze.com/dukes-of-september-rhythm-revue-2012/
Date: Fri, March 23, 2012, 08:56:22 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachUpdraught,
Oops,my bad. Those Dukes dates in my post were for August, not September.
Still not sure the six Jon H dates do much to give us clues on when/where the Dukes will play...other than eliminate those few days, of course.
Date: Fri, March 23, 2012, 07:58:49 ET
Posted by: Updraught, Philly AreaDukes tour is scheduled for June, July and August at this time, no September dates.
Date: Thurs, March 22, 2012, 23:46:59 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachUnfortunately, Sherlock, that doesn't help much.
Jon only has 6 dates booked at that time (one in July and five in Sept) so basically all it will do is eliminate those days. It doesn't seem to help geographically either, as Jon is playing in Delaware on 9/22 and the Dukes play in Illinois on 9/21 and Indiana on 9/24.
Just sayin...
Date: Thurs, March 22, 2012, 21:15:15 ET
Posted by: Sherlock, maybesvilleMaybe check out Jon Herington's tour schedule if trying to deduce Dukes dates for east coast in late august early september. Just saying.
Date: Thurs, March 22, 2012, 18:33:12 ET
Posted by: PGE, ...A Ticketmaster listing for a Dukes show:
Majestic Theatre San Antonio
San Antonio, TX
Wed, Jul 18, 2012 08:00 PM
Tickets on sale March 28/29
http://bit.ly/GHywIP
Date: Thurs, March 22, 2012, 17:43:26 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicagoDean, Doc, Lurker, JazzAssassin, and on and on...
Thanks for the heads up...this may continue until I find the right fix.
Thanks to everyone else for their patience...there are automated scripts that post the spam. For newcomers, keep in mind that, yes, I am aware of and even use other bulletin board scripts that are much more modern, but this is a script that people here prefer for its particular culture.
Best,
Jim
Date: Thurs, March 22, 2012, 08:37:36 ET
Posted by: Michael,The Dandom Guestbook: Sponsored by ...spam.
Seriously, why do this?
Date: Wed, March 21, 2012, 22:30:47 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, anycworldwilldoToday's e-mail-
Keith Carlock workshop at Manhattan's Guitar Center
FEATURING A LIVE
PERFORMANCE, Q & A
AND MEET & GREET
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 28, 7PM
Guitar Center Manhattan
25 W. 14st.
(212) 463-7500
free to the public | limited capacity
Keith has recorded and/or toured with musical luminaries such as John Mayer, Sting, Steely Dan and James Taylor.
Join us for an evening with Keith as he demonstrates the skills that have made him one of today's most sought-after drummers on the new Brooklyn kit from Gretsch.
Date: Wed, March 21, 2012, 15:29:50 ET
Posted by: hulk,the dukes of september tour 2012 will be sponsored by viagra.
viagra .com
so they won't have to worry about OVERHEAD.
or will they?
Date: Wed, March 21, 2012, 12:28:15 ET
Posted by: Red Banker, ShoreBoz Scaggs usually hits Count Basie on solo tours at comparable ticket prices. Capacity is 1600 or so. Surprised it's profitable with Dukes overhead. Great neighborhood for a Dukesfest though.
Date: Wed, March 21, 2012, 11:50:18 ET
Posted by: Chris , nhDoes anyone else get a Steely-vibe from this? Not musically really, but the fictional synthesizer with the sinister edge seems like it could be the subject of a 21st century Dan song ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWIKQMBBTtk
Date: Wed, March 21, 2012, 11:28:23 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago"Not": Count Basis Theatre looks like a fine venue. Ditto for Milwaukee. Actually, Ravinia is the only one I can see that sucks for serious fans.
Date: Wed, March 21, 2012, 10:15:22 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago"Not": Thanks for posting yesterday and today. I checked and it wasn't a part of the spam clearance. Could you email me privately at hoops AT dandom DOT com with the approximate time so I can figure out the problem? Thanks again.
Best,
Jim
Date: Wed, March 21, 2012, 09:54:32 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachPhilippe, thanks for the Krantz link and heads-up on the new release.
I will certainly check it out because I like Wayne's playing but have to admit I'm a bit skeptical about this new one. In my experience it's rarely a good sign when "reinvented" is used with respect to an artist. (In this case it is "reinvention".) I get flashbacks to the 60's of Sammy Davis Jr on the Tonight Show wearing love beads and trying to emulate the language of the hipsters of that time. Sad, really. Also think about the various "reinventions" of marketing creations like Madonna and the like. IMO real artists don't reinvent themselves because they were never "invented" in the first place. They are what they are. They evolve, chase their muse, etc. Reinvention sounds a bit too calculated for my taste. But I understand this may come down to a semantic discussion and after all it is my problem, not Wayne's--so I will put it aside when I listen.
Also I have to admit the rap references don't really build my confidence in the project--but again, the proof will be in the music, which I am eager to hear.
...and what's with the 12-minute "look into the webcam and talk" video?
Date: Wed, March 21, 2012, 06:16:27 ET
Posted by: Not, SpamPosted this Dukes date yesterday but it got swept up with the spam.
http://www.countbasietheatre.org/calendar/show/show.asp?id=43247529
Date: Wed, March 21, 2012, 06:09:43 ET
Posted by: Philippe, PauNew Wayne Krantz album with Keith Carlock and many other names that ring a bell:
http://www.waynekrantz.com/howie-61-hits-the-street-on-april-17/
Philippe
Date: Wed, March 21, 2012, 00:01:51 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicagoAND THANKS, BEN!
Hello Milwaukee and goodbye Ravinia as far as I am concerned.
Jim
Date: Wed, March 21, 2012, 00:01:06 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicagoThanks to Dean and Doc.
Best,
Jim
Date: Tues, March 20, 2012, 22:31:03 ET
Posted by: T.O. Danfan, at homeHey Ben
Thanks for that link!!
Ya f*ckin' Hoo baby they're comin' up north! Can't wait.
So for me this will be another awesome Dan (sort of) / Bruce concert year. Heaven, mes amis, heaven.
Cheers!
Date: Tues, March 20, 2012, 16:54:08 ET
Posted by: Ben, IndyHere's to the first day of Spring!
This link's to a site that tracks concerts:
http://www.songkick.com/
It lists The Dukes scheduled 8/12 at Toronto's Molson Amp. and 8/20 at Milwaukee's Riverside Theater.
Date: Mon, March 19, 2012, 16:56:09 ET
Posted by: hoops, on the quickDukes to play Vail July 11:
http://www.vaildaily.com/article/20120315/AE/120319879
Date: Mon, March 19, 2012, 12:19:12 ET
Posted by: Al Gesthalt,Ladies and Gentlemen It's time for Uncle Peter J. Fogel!
Date: Mon, March 19, 2012, 12:19:00 ET
Posted by: Al Gesthalt,Ladies and Gentlemen It's time for Uncle Peter J. Fogel!
Date: Mon, March 19, 2012, 04:05:47 ET
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Date: Sun, March 18, 2012, 20:48:48 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachThanks, Pete. That was a fabulous rendition of Black Cow (if a tad long). Sounds like it was a great show.
Date: Sun, March 18, 2012, 19:39:55 ET
Posted by: Josey, MassThanks, Pete! I've only seen one band do a better version of Black Cow than that one.
Anytime you ever hear that song you'll see heads nodding along in time. I'm not sure what the most infectious SD tune is, but that one has to be in the top 3! Just my worthless opinion.
Date: Sun, March 18, 2012, 14:53:39 ET
Posted by: Pete, New York CityFun night!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMm5zVl3O-Y&feature=player_embedded#!
Date: Sun, March 18, 2012, 14:32:33 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachOne more thing, bob. Given you are not a big fan of Yahel opening for SD, how can you not "get" Chet's post? I can understand if you don't think it is funny. But you don't understand it? Hell I don't take his position but even I thought it was amusing.
Date: Sun, March 18, 2012, 14:29:44 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beachbob,
You certainly have the right to your opinion on Sam Yahel--and yours seems to be in like most of those here on The Blue.
But I think you are a bit off-base on The Boy's reasons for having SH open shows. I mean if they really were concerned about being shown up (a crazy thought to begin with) why pair with Steve Winwood--and even have him come on and play with them later? Why do festivals with any number of top flight acts?
Anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of The Dan's history knows one of their peeves when they toured in the 70's was the way the headliners treated the opening acts. I doubt Don and Walt are worried about being up-staged by anyone and I certainly don't think they would do anything to hinder the ability of their hand-chosen opening act.
Since I have to guess why they choose Sam (and don't forget you are guessing too), I imagine they like him and his music. Perhaps they are also trying to expand the musical appreciation of the audience. Given Don and Walt don't care that much about the expectations or opinions of the audience, I doubt they think along the the lines of what you would prefer. But again, like you, I am guessing.
It's probably a good idea, in general, to clearly mark opinion as such, and not to pretend you have any inside knowledge, IMO. Unless of course you do. And if you do, please share!
Date: Sun, March 18, 2012, 11:50:40 ET
Posted by: bob, cheeseFunt- Thank you, that's what I was thinking. What was so funny about Chet's post? I don't get it.
Sorry, Dean- Steely Dan has Sam Yahel open because they will never blow anybody away, or show up the "Dan". That is the worst choice of openers imaginable! How about a good funk band to open to get the crowd excited? San Yahel is live elevator music. Wrong choice, bad choice. Always has been, always will be!
Date: Sun, March 18, 2012, 10:38:57 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SFThat makes sense now, Dean.
I would pay $250 though if the Don was wearing Boz Scaggs' snow white disco overall from the 70's....
that's not really fair, I know.
Date: Sun, March 18, 2012, 10:28:19 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachMeant to say, "in between" not "in the middle of"
Date: Sun, March 18, 2012, 10:27:18 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachLutz, keep in mind that the venue at Beaver Creek has only 530 seats.
On the other end of the spectrum, ticket prices at the Wolf Trap in Virgina are (according to the Wolf Trap official site) $42 in-house, $25 lawn. Of course, they have over 7,000 seats.
I'm thinking most of the venues will fall in the middle of those, both in capacity and ticket prices.
Date: Sun, March 18, 2012, 01:08:11 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SFI am with Dean in regards to the Yahel trio.
Thought they were pretty good but the crowd is always a bit restless before the main act and the organ trio really belongs in a jazz club, let's face it.
At this price, I will skip the Dukes this year, not paying SD prices for a just few Dan or Fagen tunes, underperformed imo. IGY was lame.
Having seen Michael's and Boz's (some disco) hits once live is also enough, plus no Carlock last time. It seemed that the whole band was a bit hampered by that. But Jim Beard played a great piano solo.
It's wonderful for the older partygoers but for the serious fan, they just don't throw enough (SD) bones. Just my opinion, don't want to spoil it for anyone.
Date: Sat, March 17, 2012, 21:49:00 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Towertix for Beaver Creek are $230 !!!! Holy mackerel!!
Date: Sat, March 17, 2012, 20:58:38 ET
Posted by: Hutch,Nice. LC with the Dan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-6G0KEXB4g
Date: Sat, March 17, 2012, 20:35:09 ET
Posted by: A. Funt,Thanks The Dean. It's becoming clearer now...
Date: Sat, March 17, 2012, 19:29:23 ET
Posted by: PGE, Dukes for BeaverThe Dukes of September will play the Vilar Performing Arts Center in Beaver Creek, Colorado on July 11. Tickets go on sale Monday March 19.
More info here:
http://bit.ly/FPVp6E
Date: Sat, March 17, 2012, 16:44:58 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!Mr Funt,
Apparently I am one of the few here who found the Sam Yahel trio pretty entertaining when they opened for The Dan. (Their arrangement and performance of Norwegian Wood was dynamite, IMO.) Most seemed to find them boring. Dunno if it was just the impatience of waiting for Don and Walt or the inability to listen to music generally lacking in pop hooks--or possibly some other reasons.
As Don and Walt have seen fit to use them to open on two or three tours, the joke should become a bit clearer for you.
Date: Sat, March 17, 2012, 16:41:26 ET
Posted by: Snake Hips, Toronto, CanadaHey all Danfans;
Anyone here catch the Toronto 2011 show?
Thoughts, comments ?
I thought it was a fantastic show, w/ a great opening act.
Thanks all,
Snake Hips.
Date: Sat, March 17, 2012, 12:23:23 ET
Posted by: The, AnswerIt's not funny if you have to explain it and spoils the subtlety of the humor.
Date: Sat, March 17, 2012, 10:54:43 ET
Posted by: A. Funt,Hoopster -
What is humorous about about Chet's "Nothing on Sam Yahel's website about opening for Winwood on May 23..." statement?
Date: Sat, March 17, 2012, 02:05:40 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South Beachkzkz,
Thanks again for another great "heads up".
Joe Michaud,
Thank you! But I think the "real" nugget from
the late great "Immortal One" concerning Kamakiriad
is the fact that there is a drum, base, vocal mix
for every song and that it was Donald's idea to
to do those. I'd love to someday get a copy of
the entire project in that format not to mention
the "TV Mix" - the complete project sans lead vocals.
I hear there is also a "TV Mix" for Morph that I
would also love to get a hold of. I still think
that the 20 bit GOLD version DJ only promo version
of Kamakiriad Roger talked about is the hands down,
the best sounding, even better than the box set remix
in my opinion.
Thanks for the scan.
How about a scan of the next issue of EQ 1993 Issue 5
where Roger talks about Steely Dan live from the first tour
in 19 years? ;O)
Date: Fri, March 16, 2012, 16:47:24 ET
Posted by: DanFan, TorontoHey T.O. Danfan I'm with you... the Dukes need to make a stop in Toronto this summer!
Date: Fri, March 16, 2012, 16:35:19 ET
Posted by: hoops, hereB/Bob: That was the point of Chet's funny post.
Chet: I've miss you and your humor. Where have you been?
Best to Bob, Chet and all.
Jim
Date: Fri, March 16, 2012, 16:11:43 ET
Posted by: b, cheeseWhy in the world would Sam Yahel open for Winwood on May 23? Unless of course Stevie wants all of his fans to fall asleep that is.
Date: Fri, March 16, 2012, 16:09:39 ET
Posted by: bob, cheese"Steve Winwood at The Beacon May 23 8pm.
Good opportunity for a special guest don't ya think?"
No..not at all.
Date: Fri, March 16, 2012, 13:44:47 ET
Posted by: Chet, BNothing on Sam Yahel's website about opening for Winwood on May 23...
Date: Fri, March 16, 2012, 10:57:19 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicagoTo DanFan: Good connection! I hadn't thought of that. If only was in NYC then. Many thanks!
Also: Thanks again, Dean, Doc and Rolf!
Best,
Jim
Date: Fri, March 16, 2012, 10:22:09 ET
Posted by: TO Danfan, on the deck in March!Not sure if this has been posted yet. Apologies if so.
Steve Winwood at The Beacon May 23 8pm.
Good opportunity for a special guest don't ya think?
Hoping the Dukes make it to Toronto or at least somewhere nearby!
Cheers
Date: Fri, March 16, 2012, 09:56:29 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicagoA couple of people had suggestions for our self-congratulatory "Hey Nineteenth" Anniversary which is next Friday, March 23.
Email me privately if you have any preferences.
Fly low, be cool.
P.S. Thanks, Rolf!
Date: Thurs, March 15, 2012, 04:18:59 ET
Posted by: fagenism, East of Skavland.Joe Michaud:
Thank you for the amazing Roger Nichols piece on the recording of Kamakiriad. To quote the Don himself, I would be willing to "part with a lot of green" for a similar piece on Two Against Nature. I can not help but think Don's super fine mind was boiling over around that era (it happened at least once before then).
I feel ashamed to admit it is only after Nichols's passing I have come to appreciate the extent of his greatness. A curios sidenote for people restlessly waiting to sink their teeth into Fagen's fourth, is that Nichols attended the legendary Feynman lectures back in the day. Arguably the wittiest intro to Physics ever, given by American monster physicist Richard Feynman. Essential watching. Should be available for free via the Bill Gates foundation, if I remember correctly.
Date: Wed, March 14, 2012, 20:56:21 ET
Posted by: Rico, hey hey heyJon nailed "Cause we ended as lovers" and is tearing up the Mahavishnu tunage. Thanks for the link kzkzkz. Wow!!
Date: Wed, March 14, 2012, 18:40:58 ET
Posted by: The Universe Will Provide, Most Favored NationsDoug Lunn has a ton of awesome credits including work with Mike Keneally.
Date: Wed, March 14, 2012, 15:32:36 ET
Posted by: MTC, 3-14-2006It's time for something new.
Date: Tues, March 13, 2012, 20:51:07 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, outside the box03/14 8:00 PM & 10PM
The Mahavishnu Project: �The Best of Mahavishnu Orchestra, Jeff Beck & Jan Hammer�
with very Special Guest Jon Herington (of Steely Dan)
Gregg Bendian � Drums
Jesse Gress � Guitars
Neil Alexander � Keyboards
Doug Lunn � Bass
Streaming live @ http://theiridium.com/iridiumlive/
Should be cool. Also, Jesse is in Todd Rundgren's band, who is in town this week. Maybe a special guest tomorrow (?)
Date: Tues, March 13, 2012, 20:01:33 ET
Posted by: Ben , IndyYep, that's him. I'm diggin' that soulful sound.
Date: Tues, March 13, 2012, 17:24:38 ET
Posted by: M Stamme,Ben -
Is that Michael Leonhart playing trpt?
Date: Tues, March 13, 2012, 17:24:27 ET
Posted by: M Stamme,Ben -
Is that Michael Leonhart playing trpt?
Date: Tues, March 13, 2012, 16:26:55 ET
Posted by: Ben, IndyIf The Dukes need an opening act I bet this trumpet player can make it happen...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBdTVmSVq14
Date: Tues, March 13, 2012, 01:16:02 ET
Posted by: Cerpin Taxt, Boston!Here's come the mix gang...
If you listen to H Gang, at approximately 18 seconds, you hear a single, seemingly overdubbed bass drum waaaay out there in the left channel.
And then it goes back to center.
Date: Mon, March 12, 2012, 23:13:55 ET
Posted by: hoops , on the quick, travelingAlex Fobes wrote to the Dandom Digest to tell us that it is official: The Dukes of September will play @Jazz Aspen, Snowmass, CO on Friday, June 22, 2012. So there!
(I've been away so sorry not to have caught up on all my messages yet. Thanks for your patience.)
Date: Mon, March 12, 2012, 21:54:29 ET
Posted by: Rob, UKAnother SD b-vox talent getting work elsewhere. Bryan Ferry band-
Bryan Ferry - vocals, harmonica, keyboards
Chris Spedding - guitars
Oliver Thompson - guitars
Paul Thompson - drums
Jorja Chalmers - keyboards, saxophones
Jeremy Meehan - bass
Colin Good - keyboards
Bridgette Amofah - backing vocals
Sewuese Abwa - backing vocals
TAWATHA AGEE - backing vocals
Fonzi Thornton - backing vocals
Marie Francis - dancer (wow!)
Jade Sullivan - dancer
Date: Mon, March 12, 2012, 19:18:24 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, nowhere & everywhereNice video of Jeff Young Band from a few nights ago (?)
Oz Noy on guitar; Keith Carlock plays in his band here in the NY (City) regularly. Enjoy. I did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIxnm_1M758&feature=g-all-u&context=G29e8e9eFAAAAAHgALAA
Date: Mon, March 12, 2012, 16:15:12 ET
Posted by: luke, SeattleLurker Ray - That's where you got it wrong. Opinions are one thing, stating things as fact are another. You came on here saying that you wished that Donald and Walter would settle their dispute with Baxter. What dispute? You stated that like it was a fact, not your opinion. That's when I jumped on you. That's how rumors start. When I, and few others asked you to back up with a link to an article or interview, you couldn't do it! Now you're saying that is was your "opinion" that they don't get along because of political differences? Give it up Ray.
Date: Mon, March 12, 2012, 15:50:40 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Heading Toward the Manatee BarFor what it's worth (and that probably isn't much) the official calendar at Jazz Aspen Snowmass does not reflect the Dukes AT THIS TIME:
http://www.jazzaspensnowmass.org/p-june-festival-17.html
Date: Mon, March 12, 2012, 15:47:28 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachJust adding a new known date (I think) to the Dukes tour this summer:
Jazz Aspen Snowmass, June 22nd:
http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20120312/NEWS/120319979/1077&ParentProfile=1058
Relevant excerpt:
"The main portion of the June Festival, set for June 22 through 24 in the Benedict Music Tent, opens with the Dukes of September, a supergroup of three prominent singers � Michael McDonald, Boz Scaggs and Donald Fagen, the primary voice of Steely Dan � from the '70s soul-rock realm. Joe Cocker, the English-born Colorado resident who was ranked number 97 on Rolling Stone's list of the 100 greatest singers, performs June 23. The first leg of the festival closes with the Jazz Aspen debut of singer k.d. lang."
Date: Mon, March 12, 2012, 13:13:30 ET
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Date: Mon, March 12, 2012, 13:13:14 ET
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Date: Mon, March 12, 2012, 08:44:58 ET
Posted by: fagenism, This just in...The Nightfly, Episode IV: A NEW HOPE
Shot all in digital video for a million and change, cast by a cool-enough yes man and screened at a festival in Utah!
Set to the cosmic harmonies of somebody else's favorite song!
Date: Mon, March 12, 2012, 08:03:26 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, blueballed tooThey just played The Nightfly on Norwegian National Radio.
However much I love that they sometimes dig deeper into the catalog of finer pop music from the last 50 years, and not always sticks to what's hot at the moment, I can't help but thinking it's about time for Don's new one.
C'mon Don, my national broadcasting company has cleaned the lasers in their CD players and the needles on their turntables, and we're waiting for the taste you said you'd bring to us.
Rumours from the broadcasting company's technical maintainance staff also says top notch equipement worth of several $ millions will most likely be ruined if not allowed to transmit brand new True Fagenistic Audio Signals fairly soon. You don't want that compensation case.
Date: Mon, March 12, 2012, 01:03:52 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South Beach - Back From LAluke,
You remind me of the secretary at the old Dunhill/ABC office. Skunk had a theory that one of the secretaries at the ABC offices had several sets of interchangeable breasts which she would alternate wearing from day to day. His theory was eventually proved wrong but I�m sure the secretary enjoyed all of the attention as Jeff and many of his band mates tried to confirm or debunk his theory.
The Bluebook is an open forum where everyone is entitled to an opinion. You might not agree with everyone�s opinion but personal attacks when you and others disagree with people�s opinions really shows just how tiny your little life must be and that the Bluebook really must consume your every waking hour. Last time I checked, this is a free country and a free board where everyone is entitled to an opinion without a personal attack. You also remind me of people on the far right who must always wage a personal attack when they don�t agree with the views of others. Just because you might think certain things are "gossip" doesn�t mean everyone has to agree with you.
The Bluebook revolves around and evolved from such "gossip & theory". But you haven�t been here that long so perhaps that is something missed on you. Back in 2006 when someone first posted that Donald Fagen�s new album was to be called, "Morph The Cat" and the even said that a "friend of a friend" told them that the tracks were to be, "Morph the Cat" "H Gang" "What I Do" "Brite Nitegown" "The Great Pagoda of Funn" "Security Joan" "The Night Belongs To Mona" "Mary Shut the Garden Door" "Morph the Cat" (Reprise) some people here began the personal attacks on this person. Within a few days, this "gossip" was confirmed as true. Scorecard: Morph The Cat "gossip" confirmed as true.
Later myself & the late Rajah had heard some "gossip" that the shows in Soboba & San Diego were to be not only sans Mike McD but would be the only 2 set shows that tour and definitely worth checking out or making an effort to see. We were both thrown under the bus for our "gossip". Scorecard: Soboba & San Diego proved true and they were the last Steely Dan 2 set shows to date.
Just a few weeks ago Pete Fogel came on to state that Michael McDonald was saying that there would be a Dukes tour this summer on his Facebook page. Some of us "speculated" that means a "Duke Tour" this summer and no Steely Dan Tour. And quickly some folks posted that that was just "gossip" and there was no confirmation of that. Scorecard: Dukes 2012 tour confirmed.
Last year I was attacked when I had some "gossip" that Donald does not like to play "Bad Sneakers" and that LA was last time you were going to hear the "The Bear" before NYC Rarities night. Gossip? "Bad Sneakers" has been played a handful of times since 1996 and "The Bear" was in fact never played again until NYC. Scorecard: Don isn�t fond of playing "Bad Sneakers" or "The Bear", confirmed.
I remember last year whenever anyone here speculated or had an "opinion" that "The Second Arrangement" would be played live at Rarities Night, they were stoned by the angry mob, calling them, "delusional". So much for "gossip" or "opinions". Scorecard: Second Arrangement played live, confirmed.
Just like Walter & Donald don�t agree with Jeff Skunk Baxter�s Right Wing politics, you don�t have to agree with my "opinions" or so called, "gossip". But I will put my "scorecard" here on the Blue against yours any day.
Date: Sun, March 11, 2012, 20:27:35 ET
Posted by: bob, bostonTommy - This is her third or fourth tour with Bruce.
Date: Sun, March 11, 2012, 15:17:07 ET
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Date: Sun, March 11, 2012, 14:38:39 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, ColumbusBruce Springsteen and the E Street Band
Apollo Theater
New York, NY
March 9, 2012
Bruce Springsteen - vocals, guitar
the E Street Band:
Roy Bittan - piano
Nils Lofgren - guitar, vocals
Patti Scialfa - guitar, vocals
Garry W. Tallent - bass
Steve Van Zandt - guitar, vocals
Max Weinberg - drums
with
Soozie Tyrell - violin, vocals
Charlie Giordano - keyboards
CINDY MIZELLE - VOCALS
Curtis King - vocals
Clark Gayton - trombone
Curt Ramm - trumpet
Barry Danielian - trumpet
Ed Manion - saxophone
Jake Clemons - saxophone
Michelle Moore - vocals on "Rocky Ground"
Good to see Cindy Mizelle keeping busy...
Date: Sat, March 10, 2012, 23:28:04 ET
Posted by: Chris, nhI assume the actually URL of the "post" page is an anti-spam measure, so I won't actually post it here, but it's pretty great.
Date: Sat, March 10, 2012, 16:34:22 ET
Posted by: hoops , chicagoCharlie Tokyo:
No. (Not that I have any idea what Walter's personal life is up to these days.)
Regardless, when the Dukes tour started in 2010, I heard then it was going to be an alternating thing with Steely Dan taking every other year off, with Donald wanting to do something else. Frankly, despite our obsession, 99.99999% of the population won't pay to see SD every year. I can't remember where it was told to me but I heard it multiple times, that it would be alternating thing. Personally, I think Donald's kind of workaholic to tour every August through October or longer. I could barely keep up with following their tour off and on for a week or so at a time in 2000, 2003 and 2006, and all I had to do was travel and listen to shows :-), let alone perform flawlessly for 140 minutes or whatever. Would love to see some solo dates with Walter. For years, Joe Jackson has been idea of the perfect billing mate for Walter. Or how about Rickie Lee Jones?
Count me among the 0.00001%
Date: Sat, March 10, 2012, 16:06:08 ET
Posted by: Joe Michaud,A Saturday afternoon treat - article by Roger Nichols in 1993 EQ magazine on recording Kamakiriad. I've scanned the article and stashed the PDF here: http://joemichaud.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/nichols-on-kam.pdf
Key excerpt to discuss:
At this point you should know that the
reason that Steely Dan and Donald
Fagen albums ever existed in the first
place was as a testing ground for Murphy's
Law. If you look in any dictionary,
the definition of Murphy's Law
is "Things that go wrong during Donald
Fagen/Walter Becker/Roger
Nichols projects."
In 1972 we were the first to use
the new 3M 24-track analog machines.
Did you know that during a brownout
the machine will go into record on
unarmed tracks as the voltage
dropped? We found out the hard way.
Did you know that in 1974 3M inadvertently
coated some of its 2-inch
analog tape with mustard instead of
oxide? Neither did we, until we
recorded a song on a roll of it. In 1975
the Village Recorder in L.A. filled with
sewer gas while we were trying to do
vocals. (Yes, it's hard to do vocals
while hoiding your breath.) In 1976 at
Cherokee Studios (the barn in
Chatsworth, CA) there was a grounding
problem with one of the 2-track
machines. When I went to shove it out
of the way, I got electrocuted; my
handprint burned into the front of the
machine.
Date: Sat, March 10, 2012, 14:42:03 ET
Posted by: Kid C, Down UnderOwsley Stanley Remembrance and BBHC with Janis CD Release Party
This Monday Mill Valley CA
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Date: Sat, March 10, 2012, 13:16:33 ET
Posted by: Big Tiger,@Les Davis: Thanks for this extended version of Green Earrings. Where does it come from? It's called 2012 remix on youtube but I sincerely doubt that it's a new mix, (who has access to the multitracks?) maybe someone was messing around with the stereo mix using eq and flangers...but I've never heard this 7 minutes version. Any info?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjnuEch140U&feature=g-all-lik&context=G2aa1158FAAAAAAAAOAA
Date: Sat, March 10, 2012, 11:14:04 ET
Posted by: luke, SeattleCharlie Tokyo - Are you Lurker Ray in disguise? Whoever said that Waiter's health was in decline? How and why do these stories just get made up?
Date: Sat, March 10, 2012, 09:50:46 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, BeckerizedEleven,
I second that 100%. Love both albums, though. And Larry Goldings' discreet organ on Downtown Canon is pure magic.
Date: Sat, March 10, 2012, 09:39:12 ET
Posted by: Eleven, UK11TOW is dark and raw, dripping with pain and bitterness. The stripped back production and cold drum machines etc just seem to fit the mood.
Gotta say it's a hard listen - whereas Circus Money puts the Becker fist in a velvet musical glove that triggers more of your SD sensibilities and draws you in right from the start.
Date: Fri, March 09, 2012, 20:40:46 ET
Posted by: Charlie Tokyo,Anybody think this year's SD Summer tour might have been cancelled because of Walter's health?
Just a thought.
Date: Fri, March 09, 2012, 20:23:50 ET
Posted by: whack,The music, lyrics, guitar-playing and some singing are masterful on 11TOW. The real shame is the fake drums (and some bass), and cheesy, unprocessed keyboard presets.
But he's got a bass clarinet solo on the record! Muchos puntos.
I wish he could have halved the amount of lyrics on each song. They're great, but those songs are novels.
Date: Fri, March 09, 2012, 13:46:33 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SFGood to know that Walter has a new guitar made for himself.
It shows he still has skin in the game.
Having seen him a couple of times in concert last year - he seemed a little burned out or uninspired at times, but then some said here it may have been pain related.
In regards to his darker tone and lyrics on 11TW: at the one show he played in 1995, he was joking about just having gone through hell/divorce and finding out about net worth and such.
I love the cd, even the rougher songs with drum machines.
The tunes with Lost tribe really take off though, great gooves.
Circus Money does not get stale for me at all, it's his best.
Donald may have a more sophisticated writing style, but Walter sure got the ears and makes it sound snappy.
Date: Fri, March 09, 2012, 04:22:42 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, West Of H�rjedalenHutch,
Thanks for the Carmine Street Guitars link. Very cool. That's musical recycling.
And thanks to Dean for the moving story. Nice people die way too often.
Date: Thurs, March 08, 2012, 21:53:47 ET
Posted by: Les Davis, WRVRcool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjnuEch140U&feature=g-all-lik&context=G2aa1158FAAAAAAAAOAA
Date: Thurs, March 08, 2012, 20:02:54 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachHoly shit, Hutch. Early in that video there are two boards, one reads "Chumly #86 Bedford" the other "Chumly's". While misspelled, I assume this is wood from Chumley's a now defunct establishment in the West Village in NYC. During my many visits to (and short tenure in) NYC this was one of my regular and favorite stops. It was reputed to be an old speakeasy. I don't doubt this as for years it had no sign whatsoever--you had to know it was there.
Another interesting story (apocryphal?) was the term "86"-meaning to throw someone out of/ban then from a bar, was coined there.
The big reason this really hit me tonight is, it is the anniversary of the death of one of my best friends--my surrogate little brother. I turned him onto this place and it became his favorite hangout through the many years he lived in NYC. Many of us (all over the country) are celebrating his life tonight--listening to Steely Dan, watching the Buffalo Sabres and throwing back transcontinental shots whilst trading stories telephonically and via the Net. I will have to add this little serendipitous tidbit to tonight's stories.
Date: Thurs, March 08, 2012, 19:37:44 ET
Posted by: Hutch, Sculpture class...Making a sculpture for Walter.
http://dailynightly.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/08/10602740-carving-guitars-from-the-bones-of-new-york
Date: Thurs, March 08, 2012, 17:25:48 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicagoAbout ten or eleven years ago, The Onion's AV Club did a great interview with Becker and Fagen. Now here's an Steely Dan primer from AV club.
http://www.avclub.com/articles/steely-dan,70509/
Date: Thurs, March 08, 2012, 14:02:12 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicagoThe latest edition of the Dandom Digest was just mailed a few minutes ago. This one covered from from March 1-8, 2012 (through noon, Chicago time, today).
If you are a subscriber, you should see it in your email box in the next couple of hours. If you don't receive it, check your spam filters first; then, if it's not there, please email me.
As I regularly remind subscribers, some people have problems with delivery of the Dandom Digest, usually because of their spam filters, firewalls, etc. That's why this sort of notice is posted here.
The following are the subject headlines of the Dandom Digest for March 1-8, 2012.
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- NEW DATE! 8/6-Dukes play Vienna, VA
- NEW DATE! 8/22-Dukes play Ravinia, Highland Park, IL
- NEW DATE! 8/24-Dukes play Indianapolis
- REDUX: Tour Attendance Priorities: "But would they do with it?"
- REDUX: Donald to Guest at Chicagoland Benefit in March
- About Donald's Rhodes Keyboards
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Thanks for your support through the years, especially Pete and Shari and Gus and remembering Mark and Bill.
Jim
Date: Thurs, March 08, 2012, 11:05:06 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicagoSS: I won't say what was Walter's intent behind 11TOW's lyrics, I'll have to think about that to imagine an answer. But I will agree that his lyrics are different (along the lines of, say, "Midnight Cruiser"). They tell stories in a little more straight-forward way. I'll say the same for the lyrics on some of "Morph The Cat." On MTC, there's a lot less innuendo and subversiveness. The lyrics are lot more at face value. And, I love the music on "The Great Padgoda of Funn," but, man, those are pretty stiff lyrics, as heartfelt as they might be. About the only interesting line in that one is "severed heads" bit, just because it's so bizarre, you gotta wonder what he's talking about. At the other extreme, "Mary Shut The Garden Door" has brilliant lyrics, and as whole is a masterpiece thanks to the harmonies and Keith Carlock's amazingly steady drumming. "Mary..." rivals and, to me, is even a bookend to "I.G.Y." It's the Young innocence and idealism of authority in "I.G.Y" versus the cynical realities of worldly authority realized at middle age, both set against an amazing rhythm. Not that Donald has ever said that.
Now and then, Donald, or maybe even Walter, gets asked as to what makes their solo albums different from Steely Dan albums. I mean, on the surface, Donald's sound and Steely Dan's sound are hardly even different. I think that's when to apply the comment (from an interview?) that when Donald and Walter get together, a third person--Steely Dan--enters the room.
ALL MY babble aside, I thought many of the lyrics on "Circus Money" were Steely Dan-worthy. I'm thinking "Door Number Two," "Paging Audrey," for starters. If Donald had done the vocals and added some horn charts, I think we would have had arguably a *Steely Dan* album as good as the last four '70s albums. I'm still dismayed at what little press C$ received. My biases aside, I think it was one of the most overlooked albums by anyone in the 2000s. One other thing about C$. Before C$, I always thought any Steely Dan album had to be produced by Becker/Fagen since, in a lot of ways, producing is a big part of what they do. Moreover, I wasn't at all impressed with Todd Rundgren's work on Donald's version of "Rhymes." After Larry Klein's work on C$, I'd love for the next Steely Dan album to be produced by him, not that I will hold my breath for a new SD album, nor to have LK produce it.
Enough of me...
Jim
P.S. Oh yeah. Donald and Walter have NEVER said anything about a falling out with Jeff Baxter. Yes, we do know he likes to tour where in the 70s, D+F wanted to spend time in the studio. I met and chatted with Jeff at MacWorld Boston '93 where he demoed some software. He never said anything negative about D+W.
Through the years I've heard from and about players who thought Donald and Walter were pissed at them because they never hired them again, only to be recruited again after many years. I think they go through phases of linking a certain players' sound and then decide to come back to it after a while.
But you know, as D+W told Marian McPartland some ten years ago, our "senses have been sculpted" suggesting that perhaps we sometimes pick up messages (right or wrong) as much by what Donald and Walter don't say as what they do say. Or maybe our senses get song fantasies tangled up with realities. Any how, they brought a certain guitarist back for a guest solo after 37 years. You never know with these guys. They win the Grammy for Album of the Year: they don't tour. It's SD's 40th Anniversary. They do other stuff.
Date: Thurs, March 08, 2012, 07:36:09 ET
Posted by: PGE, SverigeThe previously mentioned Dukes of September date Monday,August 8August 6, Filene Center at Wolftrap, Vienna, VA is now official and on the venue's homepage:
http://www.wolftrap.org/Home/Find_Performances_and_Events/Performance/12Filene/0806show12.aspx
Date: Thurs, March 08, 2012, 04:23:55 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicagoThe Dukes of September (Fagen/Scaggs/McDonald) will play Ravinia on Wednesday, August 22.
Chicago Tribune
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-ravinia-music-festival-story-20120307,0,7507993.story?page=2&track=rss
More official than that, it's listed at Ravina's official site, ravina.org.
BTW: In addition to the main pavilion, Ravina also has a small hall where a cellists Wolfgang Schmidt and Marta Aznavoorlan will perform 90 minutes before the Dukes. Stretching the realities a touch--for one, you have to buy a separate ticket--one could argue that this is the first time Donald has shared the bill with a cellist.
For those who don't know, Ravinia is a venue a lot likeFoxwoodsWestern Massachusetts' Tanglewood or Atlanta's Chastain. It's about 40 minutes north of Chicago and 50 minutes south of Milwaukee in Highland Park, IL. It's been around over 100 years and it was designed as a summer home for the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. It's not so much a pop venue. It's very pretty and ritzy with lots of lawn seating, albeit 95% of which is obstructed and you are surrounded by bris-eating candelabra bearers who either won't shut up about their girlfriend or are passed out on the lawn as a result of drinking very pricey wine; first tickets go on sale weeks in advance to subscribers--too bad if you don't want to buy a series--and it's a bit of a trek from the city, although commuter rail stops closer to Ravinia than you can park.
I'm sure it's appealing as a venue from the Dukes' perspective because they basically get the same seating as they do at the Chicago Theater plus thousands (tens of thousands?) of lawn seats. But even if you sit two-thirds of the way back in the pavilion, let alone in the all-obstructed lawn seats, it's pretty awful.
If there's a Steely Dan tour in 2013, I hope they hit the Chicago Theater again. I think that's every Chicagoland Danfans' far-and-away favorite indoor venue. Or maybe theAikoAkoo Rosemont Theatre would suffice for the suburban crowd.
Jim
Date: Thurs, March 08, 2012, 02:18:37 ET
Posted by: SS, HK
'Recently re-listened to 11TOW. Does anyone think that WB purposely wrote kind of uglier, non-elegant music/lyrics at that time?
Because aesthetically-speaking, the music really sounds devoid of those qualities we lovers of all things Dan seem to savor.'
Pete Danko,
I'd say the 11TOW lyrics are dark at times but always real, not contrived. He didn't have to write about someone dying in a hangliding accident I suppose, but what a song. And so far as I know, it happened. And the monks chanting at the end were not staged.
There's a lot of WB in those songs, including the playful one about his son at the end. Purposely uglier/non-elegant I wouldn't agree with. Certainly gritty at times, but not devoid of the things I savour as an SD follower. The sense of humour and snarl is intact on Down at the Bottom and Hat Too Flat. I do find elegant music on Book of Liars, but then what is elegant meant to be ?
Anyway, it remains there for you to discover.
Date: Wed, March 07, 2012, 20:20:18 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, HoustonI don't think Skunk has much offer to current Steely Dan. He's a gifted musician but so 100's of others that played with SD. Let's not forget he played with Steely Dan. And Lurker Ray has jumped my ass on here before as he has many others. But the guy's ok. He's passionate about the Dan and has his opinions. He has good musical tastes too.
Date: Wed, March 07, 2012, 20:09:37 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston
Date: Wed, March 07, 2012, 18:51:59 ET
Posted by: luke, SeattleDean - The bottom line is that Lurker Ray is just winging this stuff about SD/Baxter. It's just as educated guess on his part. If he can show me just one article, or put up a link to just one interview proving me wrong, I'll never post on this book again. He can't do it!
Date: Wed, March 07, 2012, 18:34:33 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!Nicholas,
Excellent contribution. I did see that many years ago and I have to say, it sounds more like a joke jab than a mean spirited one, to my metaphoric ears. As does this jab directed toward Denny D, from the same piece:
Thank you, "Brother" Dias. I suppose it's only fair to warn you people that lately we have been visiting many of the excellent nightclubs and discotheques all around the country without prior notification and, if you're up on the bandstand playing an unaesthetic voicing of the � major chord in, say, Rikki or Reelin in the Years, we're going to notice the minute we walk in and so will anybody else with half an ear (nice try, Denny). So tighten up.
Date: Wed, March 07, 2012, 18:21:31 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, PhraxosThe second paragraph of this item from the SD website at least takes a swipe at one J. "S" Baxter. Whether this supports the idea of ongoing animosity, I don't know.
http://63.247.128.123/songbook.html
Intro to the Steely Dan Song Book
(a long time ago)
Standing at the third sun-dappled crossroads of our career, having freshly glimpsed the thirty-fifth heaven, having kept our vow to put nails in our corporate ass, and, what is more, having been up all night smoking packs and packs of Delicados Ovalados, hecho en Mexico, we salute you: the loyal fandom of the Steely Dan band (hopefully that includes you, Mr. Sy Feldman of Warner Bros. Publications in New York City).
Because we are so rarely allowed to air our views on the printed page, we would like to take this opportunity to get a few things off our chest. First, these replies to some fan mail: To C.K. of Fair Lawn, New Jersey: Certainly not. The rather novel type oaf interview you have repeatedly requested cannot possibly be arranged, even in the state of California. To J. "S" Baxter of Los Angeles: Sorry, Jeff, but our royalties haven't come in either. And finally, to Ruthie, age fourteen, R.D. 52, Eugene, Oregon: No; yes; no; about seven and a half inches; sure thing, you bet; Mahalo Hilton, October 25th and 26th, ask at the desk.
Date: Wed, March 07, 2012, 18:13:28 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!I can't quite figure out why people having a disagreement, or questioning another's facts or interpretation, need to get so personal and mean.
With that said, I would love to be pointed to any documentation (video, published interviews, etc) to demonstrate there is "bad blood" between Skunk and Don/Walt. I have yet to encounter anything that leads me to that conclusion. I'm not saying it isn't true, or that there isn't evidence--only that I have no seen any evidence that leads me to that conclusion.
I don't think they are good friends, or chum around together (hell I'm not sure they even did that back in the day). But there is a lot of room between "friends" and "enemies".
I have relayed this story before, but it bears repeating here. My brother bumped into Skunk one day (many many years ago) and quipped something along the lines of "Why would you leave Steely Dan to go with the Doobie Brothers?"--emphasis obvious that he meant the DB were a real downgrade over SD. Skunk simply replied that he wanted to work, and SD wasn't going to tour (or something to that effect). Absolutely nothing negative toward Don/Walt. (The end of the story is that my brother noticed he was sitting with Tom Johnston--or was it Simmons?, I forget now. Bro felt like a total ass after that.) I wouldn't use that as proof there is no riff, but it is a small piece of evidence.
Finally, for there to be a real riff, both sides should be aware of the problem. Let's assume for a second Skunk has made some comments that might lead one to believe he isn't crazy about Walt/Don. Have Walt or Don made any similar comments? Seriously, it would be great to actually look at the evidence and come to an informed conclusion. What better place than the BlueBook to discuss an issue like this? But let's try to keep it civil.
Date: Wed, March 07, 2012, 18:13:00 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicagoThanks Doc, Dean, Joan and others who let me know about the spam. Should be fixed.
JUST FOR THE RECORD. If I update the bluebook script with a "save" at the exact moment you click post, your post may get over-written. Just saying that now because I don't think that happened right now.
Was just saying elsewhere:
Why I don't like Facebook. Another job application today where they ask for access to my Facebook password to see what I'm up to and also take down anything someone may write on my wall that reflects negatively on the company. Now you know why we keep the Blue!
You may say, "Yeah, right." But I remember 17-18 years ago when you would get a rare piece of spam once or twice a month. You would write to them asking not to send the spam anymore or they'd be booted off the web.
Best,
Jim
Date: Wed, March 07, 2012, 17:43:34 ET
Posted by: fagenism, East of hell.There have been some discussion about Don's Rhodes pianos lately, which got me thinking; what are some digital pianos and/or synthesizers we have seen him play over the decades?
I vaguely rremember him playing a Roland keytar and a Kurzweil stage piano at some point, but could be wrong on both accounts.
Bonus points for specific models.
Date: Wed, March 07, 2012, 16:43:21 ET
Posted by: luke, SeattleLurker Ray- You're full of shit! Back it up! Put a link up to one story where Becker and Fagen have a "strained relationship" with Baxter! Just one! You won't be able to because it's not true. By the way, about 12 years ago Baxter did a seminar here in Seattle where he took questions. I asked him about SD and he had nothing bad or derogatory to say about them. Stop assuming!
Date: Wed, March 07, 2012, 15:18:57 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,Actually, the Dukes of September show at WolfTrap is on monday, August 6.......
Yippee!!!!!
Date: Wed, March 07, 2012, 14:35:55 ET
Posted by: Lurker Puke,Lurker ray sure comes across as a petulant, nasty little piece of work here. Not a dolt and often right but acts like a imbecile when someone doubts him.
Date: Wed, March 07, 2012, 10:18:11 ET
Posted by: Matt, Chattanooga, TNThree videos about Donald's Rhodes keyboards...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rXtpntIVOE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsmgiEt5Pc0&feature=bf_next&list=UUdkoFXrUqN4-2ssXby4b0mQ&lf=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7UHVTyJSZ8&feature=bf_next&list=UUdkoFXrUqN4-2ssXby4b0mQ&lf=plcp
Date: Wed, March 07, 2012, 09:18:20 ET
Posted by: peteb, UK@Pete Danko, I don't understand your dig at 11TOW. A couple of open-minded listens confirm that WB has his own distinct voice and that he is the (much under-rated) grit in the SD oyster bed.
Date: Wed, March 07, 2012, 07:33:56 ET
Posted by: fagenism, Norway 2.0Lurker Ray:
I was unaware of the rift between Baxter and Becker/Fagen, but it does make sense given the fact that he has been clinically absent from the Dan world for so long. Mind elaborating? Could not find the Fox program you referred to on YouTube.
Date: Tues, March 06, 2012, 20:02:44 ET
Posted by: Ben, IndyThanks, Phred,
If that Indy's date's accurate you made my day! That's a great midsized venue that books solid shows.
http://inwhiteriver.wrsp.in.gov/ATTRACTIONS/Attraction/AttractionID/10
I'm gonna miss Sir Becker, but here's to the Dukes in '12!
Date: Tues, March 06, 2012, 19:14:32 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, MalibuDean et al.
Skunks full first set from last night
is up for your listening & viewing pleasure.
As kz has pointed out these streams usually
last for only a week.
Enjoy!
-Ray
http://www.livestream.com/iridiumlive/video?clipId=pla_20394a64-cac7-40ff-bbc6-cb201f91399b&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb
Puke in Seattle,
You obviously haven't ever seen Skunk on the Fox
news program "Red Eye" or heard Skunk speak at many
Gibson clinics and you obviously don't know much about
Donald & Walter and the many stories they have told, all
on record. The relationship is "strained" to say the least.
But stick around punk, you might actually learn
something once in a while, numb nuts.
Date: Tues, March 06, 2012, 18:58:01 ET
Posted by: luke, SeattleLurker Ray- What makes you think that Donald and Walter have a beef with Jeff Baxter? This is why you're so annoying. You state stuff like this as fact all the time. That's how rumors start. Back it up if you're going to spit this gossip/crap out. Stop assuming!
Date: Tues, March 06, 2012, 17:49:40 ET
Posted by: Phred,Just in. Two dates so far for Dukes of September in 2012--Donald Fagen, Boz Scaggs and Michael McDonald.
= Monday, August 8, Filene Center at Wolftrap, Vienna, VA, general public ticket sale on 3/24.
= Friday, August 24, The Lawn at White River State Park, Indianapolis, IN
Date: Tues, March 06, 2012, 15:26:58 ET
Posted by: Section 203, Copyright.govThe Dan will have to be content with trying to terminate the transfer of the Gaucho album because termination rights apply only to transfers after January 1, 1978 and Aja was released in 1977, BTW, the record companies are gearing up for a huge fight on terminations. Almost every major record company registered albums after 1977 as "works made for hire." If something is a work made for hire the copyright is owned by the "employer for hire" (the record company) which means the "employee for hire" (the artist)cannot terminate the "transfer." Of course, there is a major problem with the record company argument -- the Copyright Act identifies numerous works of authorship that can qualify as "works made for hire" and sound recordings are notoriously absent from that list. There are other issues on this front and the litigation is sure to be as fun as the Republian Presidential Debates.
Date: Mon, March 05, 2012, 23:07:11 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachJoan, let me clarify one thing. I didn't like the video--not at all. There are very few music videos I can even tolerate. I kind of liked the cover of Josie in the video (as opposed the remix sound file that was posted). I certainly understand if you didn't. I don't care for much of this stuff either, but this particular take wasn't bad and a bit interesting, to my ears.
Ray thanks for the headsup on Skunk. I had forgotten. Maybe they will stream a replay.
When 11TOW first came out, it didn't do it for me. Over time I have come to really like it. It isn't inelegant at all. Certainly not as "polished" as the Dan material, and yes I think that was intentional.
Date: Mon, March 05, 2012, 21:46:49 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South BeachMan if you have not caught Skunk's set
live from the Iridium tonihght you are missin'
out on goddamn good thing.
Donald & Walter should be front and center
tonight at the show and I wish they would
bury the hatchet with Jeff. Just a stellar
jaw dropping show and if they ever have a
guest guitarist on tour ever again, let's
hope that it is Jeff Skunk Baxter.
Bury the hatchet fellas. 2nd set coming
up and Jeff is on fire. I was even enjoying
the Spyro Gyra intermission music.
Thanks again to kzkz for the heads up.
Date: Mon, March 05, 2012, 21:23:46 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, homeboundDean, it's funny you should favorably cite that "Josie" video of Darcy's cover (which, by the way, I find pretentiously messy and unlistenable as all get-out), because -- with all due respect to your opinion -- I had the opposite reaction: When I watched it, it made me laugh because it reminded me of something from "Portlandia," or maybe that Simpson's episode where Homer goes to a fancy ad agency to get a Chanel style concept ad for his snowplowing business.
And Pete Danko, here's my two cents as to 11TOW. I don't find any "ugly, non-elegant" stuff there, and think especially Surf and/or Die and Lucky Henry are aesthetically brilliant and in keeping w. the Dan tradition in that they present complex, sophisticated compositions & arrangements that are aurally beautiful to dive into. Not to mention amazingly dark and poetic lyrics -- again, in line w. Dan standards. ("Badly placed or half erased or lost in space and time" - come on, lyrics don't much better than that!!) Personally, my only negative about that album is the hyper-even, drum-machine-esque beat for many of the other songs.
Date: Mon, March 05, 2012, 19:14:54 ET
Posted by: Pete Danko, Bath, MaineRecently re-listened to 11TOW. Does anyone think that WB purposely wrote kind of uglier, non-elegant music/lyrics at that time?
Because aesthetically-speaking, the music really sounds devoid of those qualities we lovers of all things Dan seem to savor.
Date: Mon, March 05, 2012, 19:09:35 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!While I can't say I've been crazy about most of the Darcy remakes, I think the video version of Josie isn't bad at all. Very haunting and dark. One of the more unusual, and I think better, Dan covers.
I'm not as crazy about the slower remix. I think they were trying a bit too hared on that one.
Thanks for the links, Per-G.
Date: Mon, March 05, 2012, 15:56:20 ET
Posted by: ken, sydney australiaPGE: Spare us with that Darcy garbage. It's an insult to the music.
Date: Mon, March 05, 2012, 12:14:08 ET
Posted by: PGE, Canadian additionsThe Darcys Aja has a couple of additions:
An official video to the song Josie:
http://youtu.be/TBKwEmBXOm4
A remix of the same song that is s-l-o-w-e-r and ... well:
http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/audio.wnyc.org/sr/sr20120305_thedarcys.mp3
The video version as well as the album does somehow resonate with the gray/grey, depressed inner-Swede stuck close enough to the tundra to barely surviving the dark 6 months of the year and missing the two months of summer before they're even gone.
Date: Mon, March 05, 2012, 10:03:41 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachRIP Ronnie Montrose.
While I was familiar with the band, Montrose, I really didn't know much about Ronnie until he release Open Fire--which musically was a big departure from the Montrose albums.
I saw him live during the Open Fire tour and it really was pretty special and different. My recollection is it was a two-man performance. Ronnie on guitar and another guy in an electronics room (for lack of a better description). I'm not much for overly-synthesized music, but this was pretty damn good. Ronnie was terrific on the axe. Great tone and taste.
I always like his take on Town Without Pity:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTTq1s7GSt0
Date: Mon, March 05, 2012, 09:35:00 ET
Posted by: Michael,"- But the big story...SD keeps reeling in those albums"
Since the termination rights are fast approaching on Jan. 1, 2013 for albums released in 1978 (and each year subsequent to the latter), I wonder if Don & Walt have registered to reclaim the rights + master recordings to Aja from the label. I know several big-name artists have already done so, from Bruce Springsteen to Bob Dylan.
Date: Sun, March 04, 2012, 23:09:10 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicagoR.I.P. Ronnie Montrose. He sure played for a diverse cross section of players, from Van Morrison to Herbie Hancock to Boz Scaggs to, of course, Montrose (along side Sammy Hagar).
http://entertainment.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/04/10576014-guitarist-ronnie-montrose-dies-at-64
Date: Sun, March 04, 2012, 14:33:10 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly, stillAnd to elaborate Fife's comments on the entry logistics of Midnight Ramble, I do think it was just the one fascist gate lady being a hardass about us walking up, the other people were fairly cool about it (I do believe Fife & I could have taken that lady on if necessary). Her exact comment was kind of hilarious: "You'll have to wait until the people in cars who were in line before you came go through" As if she would magically know which cars had pulled into the driveway line before we walked down that long path from the main road!
One thing they don't mention on their site is that you can bring in drinks, but only if you come by car and pour them into a sanctioned red plastic cup before entering the studio. They had no problem w. people tailgating in the parking area. Although they make a big deal on the site about not tolerating drunk people, there were a few people -- a rowdy lady sitting behind us, in particular -- who were pretty lit up, having made several trips back to their cars for refills.
Date: Sun, March 04, 2012, 14:01:58 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, PhillyShark deville - Larry Campbell is indeed impressive on any strings, at various points he played guitar, electric violin, mandolin - but no pedal steel to report, unless he did during one of our "obstructed view" moments (we had some of the fattest heads in the universe right in front of us!)
Date: Sun, March 04, 2012, 08:55:38 ET
Posted by: Fife, Baltimore, ehFirst here's the addy for the facebook page http://www.facebook.com/?ref=tn_tnmn#!/groups/danfests/
Secondly I do believe that the front gate people felt we were "cutting" in line by walking in though Helms web site highly suggested that a cab be taken! Confusing for sure but I was ready to put up a fight but luckily the fellows at the gate were willing to let us in(there was a woman at the front gate who decided she didn't like us from the get go, gave me a hard again when I went out to have a smoke!) We were definitely in Levon's home, each bathroom in the studio had a shower or tub in it. It was a very cool experience though I was a bit disappointed that Fagen didn't host as that was the main reason for going.
Date: Sun, March 04, 2012, 08:38:00 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, BrightonFirstly, can someone explain why there was a problem for anyone coming on foot to the Midnight Ramble? Its been baffling my little brain all night, to be honest. I even dreamed about it. Is it a security issue? Surely its easier to search someone on Shanks' than it is to have to search their car?? I dreamt I had to actually go and STEAL a car to get into the gig, having been turned away on foot...I need help, guys.
Secondly, I can't find the Dandom Facebook page in FB search.
-Fagenette
Date: Sun, March 04, 2012, 01:35:50 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SFChris Potter is going on tour with Pat Metheny this fall.
Tickets are on sale already for some of the shows.
Date: Sat, March 03, 2012, 17:46:18 ET
Posted by: hoops , chicagoThe latest edition of the Dandom Digest was just mailed a few minutes ago. This one covered from from February 11-29, 2012.
If you are a subscriber, you should see it in your email box in the next couple of hours. If you don't receive it, check your spam filters first; then, if it's not there, please email me.
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The following are the subject headlines of the Dandom Digest for February 11-29, 2012.
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- Dukes of September to Tour in 2012???
- Tour Attendance Priorities: "But would they do with it?"
- "SPOILER": Donald Fagen hosts Levon's Midnight Ramble
- "SPOILER" Jambands.com - Need We Say More? Haynes, Fagen, others sub for Helm
- REDUX: Donald to Guest at Chicagoland Benefit in March
- REDUX: Donald's New One
- And, no, we haven't heard ...
- Special Grammy for Roger Nichols
- Ricky Lawson: One Kick Wonder
- Roger Rosenberg Performs
- Rhodes Roundup: Lucy, Grace and Whats-her/his-name
- Walter Becker's Rig for 2011 Tour
- But the big story...SD keeps reeling in those albums
- The Darcys "Aja"
- Re: The Darcys "Aja"
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Thanks for your support through the years, especially Pete and Shari and Gus and remembering Mark and Bill.
Jim
Date: Fri, March 02, 2012, 20:33:43 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachPete, I'm glad to hear that about the Burnt Sugar concert. I kind of liked most of what I saw of them on youtube, but wasn't sure how they would handle The Dan. They certainly seem to be talented, eclectic and very very funky.
Also many thanks to Joan, Ray, kzkz, Denise and others for the recent reports and links. I wish some of this stuff was happening a bit closer to me. It's hard for me to get away these days.
Hey you insiders--any report on Donald's new one? C'mon you can tell us.
Date: Fri, March 02, 2012, 14:11:19 ET
Posted by: Pete, New York Cityhttp://lc.lincolncenter.org/shows/204447?show_date=2012-03-01+20%3A30%3A00
So glad that I went to this show! Although it wasn't a "tribute" to Steely Dan, for me it was the best SD tribute that I've ever seen. It was refreshing to see all of these soulful players take on these tunes. They took liberties with the songs without messing up the integrity of them. Great energy, great arraignments, great improvisation and wonderful vocalists! I loved it and it was free to boot! Would go again in a flash! I wish all of you could have been there.
Date: Thurs, March 01, 2012, 23:23:09 ET
Posted by: Denise, home from Scullers JazzJust saw Catherine Russell in a wonderful show. I hope you have a chance to see her. A mix of jazz/blues songs, some with a great sense of humor: it seemed like the perfect set. (Many of the songs were from her new Strictly Romancin CD.) What a great voice!
Date: Thurs, March 01, 2012, 19:53:36 ET
Posted by: Technicolor Motorhome, SouthEast U SI haven't posted here in a while, so this may have already been covered...but here it goes anyway... What is the deal with Donald's gigs with Levon Helm??? Is he playing the entire Helm tour or just a few nights?? Also, are any of you familiar with the Ruth Eckerd Hall in Clearwater Florida? I hear Ringo's All-Star band is playing there this summer and the room only holds about 2,000.
Date: Thurs, March 01, 2012, 18:39:40 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, Lewd YorkeHmmm...
Friday, April 6th: Lucille's (inside BB King's) Times Square, NYC-
Steely Dan Guitarist
JON HERINGTON BAND
with special guest
Steely Dan Drummer
KEITH CARLOCK
tix- $20
Date: Thurs, March 01, 2012, 18:17:23 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, Nude YawrkThis Monday, March 5th (streaming) live from the Iridium Club in NYC-
Jeff "Skunk" Baxter w/ The Les Paul Trio. Sets @ 8 & 10pm est.
http://theiridium.com/iridiumlive/
Date: Thurs, March 01, 2012, 16:20:11 ET
Posted by: shark deville,Midnight Ramble sounds like a blast. it's a darn shame that Fagen got overshadowed by Warren Haynes, a killer guitarist sure but Donald should have been the star.
did Larry Campbell play any pedal steel? he played with Dylan for several years and is a bad motherf*cker on just about anything with strings.
Date: Thurs, March 01, 2012, 00:10:19 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, undisclosed locationMr. Rumsfeld,
So sorry, thought you knew EVERYTHING! Good to see the long arm of the patriot act has its limitations.
There is a Dandom.com page on Facebook, I believe you must request access to join.
Carry on, nothing to see here either.
Date: Wed, February 29, 2012, 23:49:34 ET
Posted by: Donald Rumsfeld,Chief Security Officer Joan,
Could you please tell us idiots what FACEBOOK page you post at?
Carry on, nothing to see here
Date: Wed, February 29, 2012, 20:13:10 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South BeachPearl of the Quarter (Live 2.20.12) - Jon Herington Trio feat. Carolyn Leonhart and Ted Baker
Recorded live at The Iridium, 2/20/12
Engineered by Doug Yoel
From the IridiumLive webcast of Les Paul Trio featuring Jon Herington
Enjoy!:
http://soundcloud.com/iridiumlive/pearl-of-the-quarter-2-21-12
Sounds like a great time up in Woodstock Joan & Fife!
Wish I could have been there.
Thanks for sharing
-Ray
Date: Wed, February 29, 2012, 18:57:48 ET
Posted by: bikemann17, njAnd now a little monkey in your soul for the late Davy Jones.......
Date: Wed, February 29, 2012, 10:09:49 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Name, Misery and the Blues, NJToday is the 12-year anniversary of 2vN's release date.
Third leap-year anniversary if you go by that.
I still have awesome memories of the Walking Distance "tour" taping at Sony. I remember Donald became verbally annoyed at the intrusive nature of the cameras to the point of saying, "Is this completely necessary ? What are you going for, some post-modern crotch-shot?"
It was great to see those songs performed live a full month before their release. As a die-hard fan, overwhelming.
Thank you to the updates from the 2/25 ramble.
Any word on the 40th Anniversary plans, if any ??
Beast
Date: Wed, February 29, 2012, 09:34:37 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, @ ChrisChris,
If I'm not wrong, I think I remember you sharing some demos of yourself & your band doing some cover versions from Aja a couple of years ago?
If you get satisfied enough with the GBand remake of The 2nd Arr to actually share that one as well, it would be a pleasure to hear it some day!
Date: Wed, February 29, 2012, 06:01:24 ET
Posted by: Grok, oHappy 3rd anniversary of the release of Two Against Nature.
Date: Tues, February 28, 2012, 20:49:00 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicagoTHANKS for the review Ms. Joan. Most excellent.
Jim
Date: Tues, February 28, 2012, 19:46:22 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Back from WoodstockThis is verbatim what I just posted on Facebook, so sorry to anyone for whom this is a repetition.
Fife and I went to the Levon Helm Midnight Ramble -- "hosted by Donald Fagen" on Saturday in Woodstock. All in all great experience, if not entirely what we expected, Donald-wise. Here's the off-the-cuff attempt at a summary of highlights:
OK, OK, OK! Here's my short-as-possible version of the 2/25 Midnight Ramble, which Fionna and I were lucky enough to attend. First off: If you've never gone, expect a rather strict, fascist entry process (entering by foot instead of by car is, apparently, "cheating"). Once in, however, the venue is small and intimate (any pictures you see make it look bigger, because to get a full picture requires a wide-angle lens). Oh yeah, no pictures, no cell phone texting or use whatsoever. You can't even take a pic of the space pre-performance.
The part you really want to hear about: Though DF was announced as the sub host / headliner in lieu of Levon, he was more the 'legendary' side man on the piano -- no chatter or banter, no melodica, no introductions, and he did lead vocals on only three songs: One blues-ish number I've heard but don't know title of, "Shakedown Street", and "Pretzel Logic" -- these were awesome. The host for the evening (we expected Donald would take that role) was Larry Campbell. There was an extra-special guest, who had NOT been announced initially and who may have been the reason DF was a little sidelined: Warren Haynes (yep of the Allman Brothers), who was truly fantastic... the problem was the show was kind of more about Warren than it was about Donald. Most of the audience seemed to be there to see Warren.
All that said, the experience was mind-blowing - watching a bevy of world-class musicians jamming together about 6 ft from your folding chair, how cool is that? They did some Band covers (of course), some Allman Bros (of course), as well as Traffic and New Orleans style numbers. The opening act, Sister Sparrow and the Dirty Birds, kicked ass. Watch for them.
Last note in my sad attempt to write a pithy summary: After the big finale number, "Take a Load Off.." Fagen did not, as is his custom, exit stage immediately, but half sat up and gave what seemed to be pointed stares at Campbell et al, as if there was something to follow. He stayed in that position (with that pointed look, as if trying to get someone's attention) after a number of musicians left, which seemed odd. I may be reading too much into this, but I think there were some Fagen numbers that he expected to do that were cut...
And a side note: Our trip to Woodstock did yield some unexpected, utterly coincidental experiences (like my dog's friend from Twitter is a singer who has known Donald and Libby for years -- who would've expected that?)
Oh and bottom line: A trip to one of the Rambles, DF performing or not, is absolutely essential. Words can't describe it this amazing musical experience.
Date: Tues, February 28, 2012, 16:07:09 ET
Posted by: Chris, nhI just spent 3 hours trying to earnestly "re-record" The Second Arrangement in Garageband. So far I have a skeletal intro, first verse, and nothing else. Goddamn these songs are hard.
Date: Tues, February 28, 2012, 10:47:46 ET
Posted by: hoops, 6451 w diversey, Chicago, ILIf Donald delays his solo album much longer, I will rename the BlueBook "The BlueBalled."
Date: Mon, February 27, 2012, 20:14:05 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, Home at LastGot to see Larry Carlton last night at Infinity Hall. Sold out show. Very well received. 4 time Grammy award winner and all. He is a tremendous guitar player. Played a little of the theme to Hill Street Blues. Talked about when he was asked to play dates with Steely Dan a few years ago and he hadn�t seen the �guys� in thirty years and he had to relearn his guitar solo from Kid Charlemagne. He said he couldn�t play that but did play Josie � wow! Very short show only 70 minutes but worth it. We didn�t hang around to get an autograph. Next time I go to an SD show I�m going the night he sits in.
I would have loved to Frank Vignola Saturday night at Roaring Brook Nature Center � less than 5 miles from my house and only holds about 40 people � very very rustic. Just couldn�t pull it off.
Date: Mon, February 27, 2012, 15:50:02 ET
Posted by: Ben, Indyhttp://www.jambands.com/news/2012/02/27/warren-haynes-donald-fagen-danny-louis-and-hooke-hererra-sub-for-levon-helm/
Date: Mon, February 27, 2012, 15:20:18 ET
Posted by: blind,Don't know whether there was an alternate version recorded earlier, but the track for Gaucho has Gadd, Rainey, Kahn and Mounsey, who also play on other Gaucho tracks. Rainey is the only one who played on finished Scam tracks, Rainey and Gadd on Aja.
Date: Mon, February 27, 2012, 12:22:06 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, listening to Third World Man for the zillionth timeThanks, blind.
Interesting. You sure they never made an earlier version of it for Aja (or Scam), then reworked the arrangement to what we know as the version on Gaucho, though still with the old lyric, and then finally changed the lyrics?
Just wondering. A fine tune it is, anyway. And Larry's solo is utmost beautiful. One of his greatest moments, IMHO.
Date: Mon, February 27, 2012, 11:57:21 ET
Posted by: blind,Only the lyrics changed from "Were You Blind" to "Third World Man". The backing tracks and Larry's solo are exactly the same.
Could be that Donald reworked the lyrics when Walter was in the hospital.
Date: Mon, February 27, 2012, 10:57:12 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, master of typosPlease insert "been" between "have" and "composed". My bad.
Date: Mon, February 27, 2012, 10:54:51 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, enigmatizedSince the song was probably reworked a lot since it's origin as "Were You Blind", mostly keeping Larrys guitar parts intact only, it's hard to tell from the sound and production details when exactly the original is supposed to have composed and recorded. The final version sounds very Gauchoesque to me anyway.
Date: Mon, February 27, 2012, 10:48:23 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, still foggyIn the video Larry seems to need confirmation from someone that it was actually on Gaucho that TWM finally appeared.
"Third world man is on Gaucho, right?"
So he might have had a bit of trouble remembering the exact album contents and what's what that day... ;o)
Date: Mon, February 27, 2012, 09:55:20 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachJazzassin, good questions. Also, Larry says Third World was "in the can" from Scam--not that it was based on some outtake from Scam. Perhaps he was just talking off the cuff/top of his head, and doesn't quite have all the details correct. Or, as you say, maybe the info we've heard all these years is somehow distorted.
Date: Mon, February 27, 2012, 07:15:20 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, somewhere in the fogAnd one can also wonder: Larry says Third World Man was based on an outtake from Scam (Were You Blind...), while a dozen other sources says that one was an Aja outtake.
A slip of tongue from Larry? Or a widely spread mistake about the assumed Aja sessions which Larry seems to disprove?
Date: Sun, February 26, 2012, 23:17:47 ET
Posted by: Cerpin Taxt, Boston!I wonder, then, if Were You Blind That Day? became Third World Man FOR Gaucho.
Date: Sat, February 25, 2012, 03:28:53 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -This has probably been posted before, but anyway...
Larry Carlton on the Third World Man / The Second Arrangement debacle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9B3lS17_G4
Date: Sat, February 25, 2012, 00:53:03 ET
Posted by: Give me an H,a bouncy H
Date: Fri, February 24, 2012, 09:13:45 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachJim, thanks for those links. I will definitely be checking more of Frank and Vinny.
As for Burnt Sugar: I had never heard of them before. I checked out the link supplied by moray eel and then clicked on a few more. I'm not sure I'd want to hear what they might do with Dan material, but based on a few of the vids, they seem like a band I wouldn't mind seeing in a bar/club. They look like a show-type band with a fairly eclectic repertoire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wG81fhxA74
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXI5PW0iBpE
Date: Fri, February 24, 2012, 05:30:20 ET
Posted by: a little, without sugar pleaseShit - I actually checked out that link. Burnt sugar left a nasty aftertaste ... dat particular emperor sho is nekkid.
Date: Fri, February 24, 2012, 00:15:28 ET
Posted by: moray eel, noOh God, no. Burnt Sugar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1hZ1t-vbms
You couldn't pay me to sit there and watch them ruin the SD catalog.
m.e.
Date: Thurs, February 23, 2012, 21:45:39 ET
Posted by: chaz.seven, detroit
Does anyone know what this is all about?
http://new.lincolncenter.org/live/index.php/atrium-burnt-sugar-march-1-2012
Date: Thurs, February 23, 2012, 20:52:35 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton Rouge
I have published my article on Frank Vignola on Hubpages. The full article can be found here:
http://jimtaylor.hubpages.com/hub/jimtaylor_hubpages_Cat-Zen-Jammers.
It can also be found on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100000753643151
This is the Dangentially related excerpt:
I got a chance to talk to Frank after the show and he shared his experience working with Donald Fagen on �Morph The Cat�. Frank first met Donald in 1989 when Frank was leading, in his words, �a Django Reinhardt Band� at Alfredo's on West 57th St. (my notes say 56th st., but Google says 57th. I wonder if they moved?) Donald would come in on Wednesdays with his then fiance', Libby Titus, and get the front table to listen to the Gypsy Jazz.
Flash forward 20+ years. Frank's phone rings, and its Donald Fagen. Could Frank come down the next day and help out with the new album? Well, of course, there was only one answer to that question: �Yes!� Frank added, �I'm a huge Steely Dan Fan.�
When Frank got to the studio, there was just Donald, Frank and an engineer (ed. Note: probably either Brian Montgomery or D.J. Doherty. I forgot to ask whether they worked at Avatar or Sear Studios.) Frank said that in private, Donald is very soft spoken, and asked him if he wanted to listen to the track. The basic track for �Morph the Cat� was cued up and played. Frank said it was � like listening to a new Steely Dan song for the first time: breath taking.� He also called it a �high point of my musical career.�
Frank reported that they did about 75 takes. (I wanted to joke that it sounded like he got off light, but I didn't). They tried several different guitars and styles. Donald would make a suggestion like �try Lydian� o r �try Dorian� mode. They ended up doing the title track and reprise. At the end, Donald thanked him and they talked about going on the road, but nothing ever came of it.
I asked Frank what it was like to work with Donald. Frank said that at first he was very nervous, but Donald's soft manner put him at ease.
�Donald has a great amount of musical knowledge,� he observed.
I mentioned that in New York, Donald's voice had shown some strain on the recent tour, and that I had seen them in Las Vegas after a 2 week layoff and he sounded great. Frank said, �You have to understand that Donald gives his all every night.�
When asked if he had heard from Donald about playing on the new album or had news of a tour Frank told me that he had not. (Frank is on the road over 200+ days a year, so he IS hard to get.)
I also asked him if he had ever played with Keith Carlock while knocking around in New York. He has never payed with Keith, but Frank expressed admiration for Keith's �big, fat grooves.�
All in all, this was an astounding night of music and fun.
Frank can be heard in February and the first half of March as follows:
Sat., Feb 25-Canton CT- Roaring Brook Nature Preserve
Wed., Feb. 29- Watham, MA Bentley University
Fri., March 2-Tuesday March 6-Sweden
Fri., March 9- Arnold MD Anne Arundel CC
Wed., March 14, Washington D.C.- Blues Alley
Get more information here: http://www.frankvignola.com/tour.html
http://www.vinnyraniolo.com/live/.
(You just HAVE to listen to The Vinny Raniolo Quartet- �Kong Man� playing �Spaz in the City.�)
Mr. Vignola gave me permission to post this clip from Acoustic Guitar Community playing a stunning rendition of Scheherazade/Flight of the Bumble Bee:
http://www.acousticguitarcommunity.com/video/frank-vignola-and-vinny-7
This review may be reproduced in whole or in part. Just e-mail me at jhtaylor2@cox.net to let me know where, so I can direct people to the location and please note it appeared first at: http://www.dandom.com/bb/index.html. Thanks. Jim.
Date: Thurs, February 23, 2012, 18:08:51 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
Article from my friend Gary Stromberg, who was Steely Dan's first publicist. He told me some wild stories, and I'm glad he survived and got help, and is now helping others:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/23/opinion/stromberg-addiction-struggle/index.html
Date: Wed, February 22, 2012, 14:37:24 ET
Posted by: biff diggerence, West of PhillySnidely:
Gong Sisters = Dust Brothers
Date: Wed, February 22, 2012, 12:28:39 ET
Posted by: vic,Steely Doc - It's just you
Date: Wed, February 22, 2012, 11:52:03 ET
Posted by: shark deville, ready for a kickfightyou really think Donald would write a song about heroin and call it H-Gang? come on.
they're slammin' outta Hinktown. that is all.
didn't he skip it at one of his solo shows, and was overheard saying something like "I don't want to play that piece of sh*t..." ?
Date: Wed, February 22, 2012, 09:43:20 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin, Analyze This"I hear Denise is back on the outside
That's she's got a wicked plan
She's callin' in the Gong sisters again
To form the ultimate five chord band
For eight months now in that freaking cell
She's been knockin' ideas around"
Okay so Denise was in jail for 8th months. In jail for what? She's got some friends called "the Gong sisters". "Gong" is oriental, and we all know what opium did to China 1800's don't we? Hell, they fought a war over it!
So yes, I would say this is a song about drugs, and possibly prostitution related to drugs, and possibly a midwestern drug dealing enterprise that is fronted by a girl band. Glad we cleared this up.
Date: Wed, February 22, 2012, 08:26:12 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Towerthank you, friendly stranger , for your cleaned up version of Second Arrangement, sounds pretty good.
did anyone notice that American Lovers, as performed by SD at Rarities Night, sounds similar, in parts, to Change of the Guard? or is it just me?
Date: Wed, February 22, 2012, 08:08:28 ET
Posted by: Sigmund Freud, in your mindSometimes an H is just an H.
No amount of subtlety regarding the H can save that song from its mundane, IMO abominable, lyrics.
Date: Tues, February 21, 2012, 23:51:24 ET
Posted by: a friendly, strangerI cleaned up The Second Arrangement, as best I could, for funsies. Not an engineer but I think it's an improvement.
http://www.mediafire.com/?5ld38a4c9g5bezz
Date: Tues, February 21, 2012, 23:04:11 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, at home, at last
Ray & Joan (and anyone else interested), last night's Jon Herington shows w/Les Paul trio are available for viewing via links provided at:
www.livestream.com/iridiumlive
Should stay up for a week or so.
Skunk Baxter coming soon.
Date: Tues, February 21, 2012, 20:46:27 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly...LR - I also would love to know if someone captured last night's feed at Iridium - it was an amazing show, everyone was at top of form (and what a treat to see Ted and Victoria again doing SD songs!!)
And if anyone missed the Catherine Russell Fresh Air show, you can listen to it on their site http://www.npr.org/programs/fresh-air/
So wonderful that the show devoted an entire hour to Catherine, and so much was performance. Just great.
Date: Tues, February 21, 2012, 20:43:29 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin, reply hazy, try again"Here comes the H-Gang"
"H" being the street name for Heroin of course.
Date: Tues, February 21, 2012, 20:41:55 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly but Woodstock bound soon...Going back to that Keb Mo thread from a few days ago (I agree, that track from his new release is VERY DF) ...RIGHT NOW he is streaming live from the White House, a blues performance program http://www.whitehouse.gov/live
Date: Tues, February 21, 2012, 18:44:20 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!Wow, Hicnic and Bob, that IS a lot of money--especially for ebay.
Here's a copy (supposedly new) for under $11 shipped:
http://www.deepdiscount.com/dvd/Two-Against-Nature-602527101255?utm_source=GoogleShopping&utm_medium=CSE&utm_campaign=productSearch
Happy hunting!
Date: Tues, February 21, 2012, 18:09:53 ET
Posted by: bob, Atlantic Beach, Long IslandHicnic - Here ya go!
http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Steely-Dan-Two-Against-Nature-DVD-2000-/3319369?_dmpt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&_pcategid=617&_pcatid=1&_refkw=steely+dan+dvd&_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A5841&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Date: Tues, February 21, 2012, 17:57:58 ET
Posted by: Hicnic,Seems like a few years ago their was an abundance of 2vN DVD's on the market - looking for one for a friend and they are hard to find (not to mention expensive).
Date: Tues, February 21, 2012, 17:53:12 ET
Posted by: Matt, Chattanooga, TNHas anyone gone to the trouble of writing out a lead sheet or chord chart for any of Walter's Circus Money stuff?
Date: Tues, February 21, 2012, 16:41:03 ET
Posted by: Listen, here...http://www.npr.org/2012/02/21/146478234/catherine-russell-the-fresh-air-in-studio-concert
Date: Tues, February 21, 2012, 13:02:34 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, HoustonThis wont go over well but I still think the 2000 and 2003 lineups were the best, except Keith's closing on Aja.
Date: Tues, February 21, 2012, 09:25:58 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PABusy as hell at work, someone may have already mentioned it, CATHERINE RUSELL ON FRESH AIR TODAY 3:00 PM EASTERN TIME ON N.P.R.
Soory if I misplelled her name, gotta go!!!
Date: Mon, February 20, 2012, 22:33:01 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South BeachHey let's not forget Ted Baker and
one of the MOST beautiful gals in
NYC Victoria Cave. It was like old home week!
Loved Victoria on the original arrangement of
Dirty Work and a very sexy Black Friday.
Final set of the night coming up, should be
killer.
Thanks again KZ anyone record the stream?
Shoot me an email.
Date: Mon, February 20, 2012, 22:18:11 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, watchingNice Dan set by Jon w/Carolyn singing-
Pretzel Logic
Dirty Work
Pearl of the Quarter
Black Friday
Date: Mon, February 20, 2012, 20:54:54 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South Beachkzkzkz -
I'm with Nic, thank you so much for the
heads up!
It was also great to see Jon play some
jazz with the Les Paul Trio.
Happy Birthday's to all involved.......
Date: Mon, February 20, 2012, 20:43:10 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxoskzkzkz - thanks for the heads up. Carolyn also showed up and sang.
Date: Mon, February 20, 2012, 20:16:38 ET
Posted by: Denise, HHappy birthday also to Gretchen! Isn't ther a 3rd bluebooker that shares this birthday with Walter & G?
Date: Mon, February 20, 2012, 18:44:10 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, NYSeeforyourselfJon Herington @ Iridium in NYC tonight streaming live @ 8 & 10!!!
Special guest-Ted Baker
www.iridiumlive.net.
Date: Mon, February 20, 2012, 18:20:39 ET
Posted by: Denise, holiday from HinktownHey Walter,
Happy birthay! Hope you are enjoying the day. To a good year ahead.
Date: Mon, February 20, 2012, 09:38:34 ET
Posted by: Chris, nhAlso, "The Bear" is an Aja outtake and I can't get past the fact that the only [band] version of Kind Spirit [] is lyric-less.
Date: Mon, February 20, 2012, 09:36:34 ET
Posted by: Chris, nhCarl, have you heard both the demo and full band versions of the tune? The demo version has a better vocal performance; the full band version clearly has "scratch" vocals on it, and it sounds like they were leaving space for a solo or two (along with the requisite horns and backup vocals). I wonder if there's a finished version...
On that note, does has anyone ever heard full band outtakes of Talkin Bout My Home and I Can't Write Home About You? Did they ever even get recorded?
Date: Mon, February 20, 2012, 07:36:10 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, reluctantly getting ready for work...Happy Birthday Walter!
Date: Mon, February 20, 2012, 01:30:04 ET
Posted by: dennis, New YorkHi
Date: Mon, February 20, 2012, 00:00:01 ET
Posted by: The Loyal Dandom, On All Continents
Happy Birthday, Walter Becker!
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Date: Sun, February 19, 2012, 22:36:49 ET
Posted by: Carl, What?I'm surprised about how many people love Kulee Baba. I personally hate that tune. The Second Arraignment, The Bear, Kind Spirit, etc all are much better I think.
Date: Sun, February 19, 2012, 21:28:57 ET
Posted by: Attn, all shoppersThe old testament CDs are going for $4.99 apiece, new on Amazon.
Date: Sun, February 19, 2012, 19:21:58 ET
Posted by: Just me, Paklok
http://212.178.99.195/SteelyDanDatabase/sounds/DOKAKAKidCharlemagne.mp3
Considerable talent required to do this.
Which makes me think that the atrocious element of it must be deliberate.
Date: Sun, February 19, 2012, 18:42:01 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Towerstill a little bit of time to get in on the auction of Roger Nichols' gear on ebay:
http://stores.ebay.com/Sweetwater-Sound/Roger-Nicholss-Gear-/_i.html?rt=nc&_fsub=2914682013&_sid=36121123&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1513&_pgn=1
there are a few items left, check it out
Date: Sun, February 19, 2012, 18:18:02 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -For what it's worth, I always thought of The Second Arrangement *and* Kulee Baba as tracks missing from Gaucho accidentally. Any sources confirming this theory would be much appreciated.
Two of the funkiest tunes Don and Walt ever penned.
Date: Sun, February 19, 2012, 17:09:50 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South Beachsteelydoc,
Thanks for info! And thanks to Bill
in Pitt fot helping us out.
Sadly though it looks like the re-release of
"Archie Blue - New Day Comin'" was supposed
to have 5 other tunes recorded after the album's
release, and some live material recorded at State
College's infamous Scorpion!
http://www.klotzaudio.com/Clients/Archie.html
But only two bonus tracks were added. I really
wanted to hear some of the live stuff recorded back
in the day at the "Scorpion"!!!
Here is really nice article on the group if anyone
else missed it digging around for info:
http://www.examiner.com/art-in-los-angeles/archie-blue-listen-again
I've sent an email to Arthur Goldstein hoping
to chat and maybe get a chance to hear some of the
classic live stuff.
Chris,
Couldn't agree more. Kulee has always been a
favorite of mine also ;O)
-Ray
Still dancing in the foam
Date: Sun, February 19, 2012, 15:55:22 ET
Posted by: Chris, nhLurker - re: other Gaucho uptempo tune - Kulee Baba, perhaps?
Hope that one makes the cut for the next rarities night :)
Date: Sun, February 19, 2012, 12:41:38 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachDoc,
Thanks for the Archie Blue post. That is completely new to me. I've checked out a few cuts and it sounds pretty damn good. Not too surprising as Van Dyke Parks is involved (I still listen to the old Little Feat albums all the time). This may be worth picking up.
Date: Sun, February 19, 2012, 11:45:13 ET
Posted by: vic,Hutch - You hate being wrong, don't you?!
Date: Sun, February 19, 2012, 09:38:31 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the TowerLurker Ray:
Bill from Pgh also commented on the article about Arthur Goldstein on the Dandom dot com group on Facebook:
Also, note the article on local band the Arthur Goldstein Group on p12 - they changed their name to Archie Blue and put out a heavily SD-influenced LP that I still own, produced by the legendary Van Dyke Parks. I saw them once and as I recall they covered Pretzel Logic, Black Friday and a couple Talking Heads tunes along with their originals.
Just Googled it and it's been re-released with some additional tunes! Hot damn, gonna order it now: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/archieblue
New Day Comin'
www.cdbaby.com
Date: Sun, February 19, 2012, 06:34:35 ET
Posted by: Hutch,toDanfan - Good Lord man... don't say anything of an optimistic nature about any 40th anniversary cd/dvd/concert. You might incur the wrath of the all-knowing "Vic".
Date: Sun, February 19, 2012, 00:06:22 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton RougeI just walked in the door from attending the Frank Vignola and Vinny Raniolo concert here in Baton Rouge. Frank is a featured guitar soloist on Morph the Cat.
All I can say for now is "WOW!" I conducted a short interview with Frank after the show for the Dandom Digest which I will write up and post shortly. I will include upcoming dates and some of Frank's remembrances of how he met Donald, how he came to be playing on Morph the Cat, and what it was like to work with Donald.
If you get a chance to see Frank and Vinny, I suggest you jump on it. It had everything from Django Reinhardt to Sting to Rimsky-Korsakov (Scheherazade) to Swan Lake complete with choreography(really!). More in a bit.
Date: Sun, February 19, 2012, 00:00:20 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South Beachsteelydoc,
I was a junior in high school when that great article
came out. I loved how forthright Walter was about the
"erased" Gaucho tune. I wonder what was the 2nd up tempo
tune missing from Gaucho he was refering to?
The paper reminded me a lot of the U of Michigan
paper circa 1981. I loved reading all of the great
ads and live music reviews in that 1981 Penn State
paper. I think I would have liked to have checked
out the "Arthur Goldstein Group". They sounded pretty
great from the review. Wonder if they ever put anything
out? My favorite was the television listings for Monday
Feb, 16, 1981:
"Channel 6 - Monday Night At The Movies - 'Angel Dusted' -
Jean Stapleton - A mother of a seemingly well-adjusted
boy, who with determination and love, manages to get her
son medical and psychiatric help when he goes beserk
after smoking a marijuana cigarette soaked in highly
dangerous 'angel dust.'
Though a good stereo, turntable and speakers was still $800!
Date: Sat, February 18, 2012, 23:47:26 ET
Posted by: TO Danfan, watching hockeyBillie & Michael....dueling trolls????....zzzzzzz...
We may get the Dukes but not the Dan. Hopefully Canada is included this time!
I still think we may see a 40th dvd/cd from the last tour. Wishful thinking?
Cheers
Date: Sat, February 18, 2012, 10:14:22 ET
Posted by: Michael,Billie, amusing. Too bad that I don't own a credit card, or, more appropriately, a debt to bank. However, I do compose music and freely share it with everybody. I've no interest in locking down my art as if it were some scarce commodity, then use 'intellectual property' as a beating stick to push through internet-crippling legislation. News flash: there is NO SUCH THING as 'intellectual property,' only tangible property. IP is a government-created fabrication meant to grant private entities monopolistic rights over culture.
Date: Sat, February 18, 2012, 07:20:00 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin, Visa or Mastercard AcceptedThis one goes out Michael.
http://i.imgur.com/05Yrs.jpg
Checkmate old boy. Checkmate.
Date: Sat, February 18, 2012, 07:17:00 ET
Posted by: Phil, Pau FranceSteve M and The Dean, glad you enjoyed Keb Mo, just another suggestion with Donald connections:
"Tomboy rock star" by Chocolate genius
If you want more, I have some other Dangential stuff in stock, away for one week I'll come back to check your reactions.
Philippe
Date: Fri, February 17, 2012, 20:07:36 ET
Posted by: Hey, ThanksWow. Never thought I'd hear an SD cover as good as, if not indistinguishable from, the original.
Date: Fri, February 17, 2012, 19:25:25 ET
Posted by: Rare SD, Coverhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaWwzD9Jsn8
Date: Fri, February 17, 2012, 14:48:20 ET
Posted by: ygk, nycBillie Rubin is, in fact, and independent Band.
Go figure.
http://www.unsignedbandasylum.com/BILLIERUBIN.html
also, they have quite an extensive catalog...
ygk
Date: Fri, February 17, 2012, 13:18:45 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the TowerLurker Ray
Glad you liked the article...it came out on my friend Pete's birthday...way back in 1981...I have a copy of the political cartoon, drawn for me by the artist in 1993, I know his sister from the film biz. Hope you are well,
SD
Date: Fri, February 17, 2012, 13:01:02 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachPhilippe, great call on the Keb Mo. That's the first time I have heard that cut. Very Fagenesque, without the full blown Dan-like treatment.
He played here last month and I planned to go to the show, but found out it was a Standing Room Only show (no seats). I think that was to maximize the audience in this small hall in Ponte Vedra. Well The Dean is just a bit too old and fat to stand for the entire show. Too bad. I bet it was terrific.
Date: Fri, February 17, 2012, 12:35:27 ET
Posted by: Steve M, ScotlandRe: Keb Mo
Phillipe, that's just wonderful, truly Dontastic!
Thanks for sharing.
Date: Fri, February 17, 2012, 09:53:41 ET
Posted by: Phil, PauHello there, if you wish to have a Steely moment this week end, try
"The Reflection (I See Myself In You)" by Keb Mo on his last album, it's as close to Donald as it can be musically without being Donald himself.
Hope you'll enjoy it as much as I do.
A la prochaine
Philippe
Date: Fri, February 17, 2012, 08:05:32 ET
Posted by: Michael,"Hey Michael if you want to give your stuff away that's your right, but what about artists who would rather not give their stuff away? They should go to hell because you say so?"
Ok, first you call me a thief and now you're accusing me of trying to jip independent artists. *shrugs*
"You assume that ever artist out there is signed to a big record company."
I do? Really? Is that why I was the one who explained that the internet is the best thing to happen for independent artists because they no longer need the corporate middle-man to hoard their profits and steal their art?
"What about the small independent artist who isn't signed and produces their own stuff, of which there are many these days, if you copy their stuff without paying for it you're directly stealing from that artist aren't you?"
Sure.
"I don't need a record company to make, record, and sell my music."
Thanks for reiterating what I already said.
"If I decide to sell it independently aren't you stealing from me by not paying for it?"
Read above.
"Again, you're trying to cover yourself for something you know isn't right, but I don't imagine it stops with music Michael, I bet this mentality washes over into other aspects of your life doesn't it?"
Quite ironic how you take the moral high ground while simultaneously throwing around blind accusations.
Date: Fri, February 17, 2012, 04:48:44 ET
Posted by: Ron Popeil, free steak knives!All yours for $3500 bucks!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FREE-SHIPPING-WORLDWIDE-Vintage-Fender-Rhodes-88-MK-1-Suitcase-Electric-Piano-/170776089984?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item27c30c5580
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Date: Fri, February 17, 2012, 02:28:59 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South BeachHey steelydoc!
Thank you soooo much for those great links!
I would have missed that great stuff if not for you.
Really appreciate it.
Hope you are well.
Date: Thurs, February 16, 2012, 22:11:55 ET
Posted by: Matt, Chattanoogahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rXtpntIVOE
After asking a few weeks ago about Donald's Rhodes setup, I was directed to a link where vintagevibe had done some restoration work for him. As I delved further, I discovered this video, where they demo his three Rhodes (Well, two Rhodes and one Fender Rhodes, apparently). Apparently one is called Grace, and one is called Lucy. No word on what the other one is named.
Date: Thurs, February 16, 2012, 20:41:18 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin,Hey Michael if you want to give your stuff away that's your right, but what about artists who would rather not give their stuff away? They should go to hell because you say so? You assume that ever artist out there is signed to a big record company. What about the small independent artist who isn't signed and produces their own stuff, of which there are many these days, if you copy their stuff without paying for it you're directly stealing from that artist aren't you? I don't need a record company to make, record, and sell my music. If I decide to sell it independently aren't you stealing from me by not paying for it? Again, you're trying to cover yourself for something you know isn't right, but I don't imagine it stops with music Michael, I bet this mentality washes over into other aspects of your life doesn't it?
Date: Thurs, February 16, 2012, 20:29:54 ET
Posted by: Michael,"Michael, stop stealing other people's products then wrapping your ass in the flag by saying you're doing it to stick it to the man. Your argument is about as ridiculous as saying if you hadn't broken into a jewelry store you would never have discovered diamonds and gold. The deal an artist strikes with his/her record company is between them and the record company, it doesn't give you the right to steal because the artist got a raw deal. Amazing how people rationalize doing what they know is wrong."
There you go again calling me a thief. Guess you have no other recourse since you realize full well that you lost this debate.
Date: Thurs, February 16, 2012, 20:26:25 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin, I did it for Jodie FosterDean, where did I say they were "hiding their art"? Maybe you've spent an hour too long at happy hour today.
Michael, stop stealing other people's products then wrapping your ass in the flag by saying you're doing it to stick it to the man. Your argument is about as ridiculous as saying if you hadn't broken into a jewelry store you would never have discovered diamonds and gold. The deal an artist strikes with his/her record company is between them and the record company, it doesn't give you the right to steal because the artist got a raw deal. Amazing how people rationalize doing what they know is wrong.
Date: Thurs, February 16, 2012, 20:24:09 ET
Posted by: Michael, @The DeanPrecisely. It wouldn't surprise me if Billie works for a label. To them it's all about the bottom line, to the extent that they frequently pull dirty tactics to rob artists of rightful ownership and profits. (Talk about stealing...) But Billie wants to paint people such as myself as a bunch of thieves out to hurt artists.
I for one create music and share it with everybody. Why? I kinda want my work to be heard and enjoyed by as many people as possible.
http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/viewthread/456199/
You can hear the SD influence (I hope) in some of my work, even if it's MIDI-based.
Art is culture. I frequently share my stuff with friends and relatives. Who are the mega conglomerates to tell me what to do? The more they restrict access, the less people will listen. After all, to them it's all just a business, a product for them to slap their label onto.
Date: Thurs, February 16, 2012, 19:58:06 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!What am I missing here? Haven't Don and Walt released at least 14 albums of original material? They have also worked with many other artists as producers, contributing artists, etc. They aren't hiding their work in a vault. They are SHARING it with the world.
Hiding their art? Are you totally clueless? Now I am completely convinced Billie Rubin is a troll, or just completely out to lunch. Nobody else could possibly miss what Don and Walt have contributed to music in the past 40 years.
Again: None of the collaborations you seem to value contribute ANYTHING of value (except for dollars) to music. If you have a differing opinion, please explain.
Date: Thurs, February 16, 2012, 19:43:21 ET
Posted by: Michael,Alright Billie, is that the sum total of your argument? If you're going to call me a thief, I hope you've got some proof to back up your blind assumption. Certainly not SD music, otherwise explain what the Citizen Steely Dan box set, remasters, all of Don's solo albums, etc. are doing in my collection? And do you know what the funny thing about that is? SD probably got peanuts from all the stuff I've purchased, as opposed to the major labels which hoarded the profits.
So everybody who downloads stuff from the computer is a thief, right? Back in the days of Audio Galaxy and the like, I learned about plenty of incredible music I otherwise wouldn't have even known about otherwise. Guess what? I bought the stuff I liked. I own hundreds of albums thanks to the internet. Quite a difference from "walking into your place" and stealing, that is *depriving you* of something.
I'd definitely agree that it's stealing to the extent that you're downloading solely out of selfish desire, either because you don't want to pay or can't afford to anyway, e.g. people who torrent all the latest movies, music, games, et al. To that extent, I say shut 'em down. However, not *every* download is equivalent to theft. The last thing we need is for mega conglomerates to be handed censorship powers over the internet. Then we'll be no different than China, Iran and other dictatorships.
Date: Thurs, February 16, 2012, 16:16:15 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin,Some of you people sound like a bunch of old lunchbox toting union workers with 40 years on the job who don't wanna give the new guys anything. You don't owe them nuthin' right? Why should you give these newbies anything?
Why should a great mathematician share any of his findings with any of the new college grads out there? Let 'em figure it out for themselves right? Fuck em. Fuck em all. This is the basis of art in the 21st century. This is art in the ME GENERATION.
Date: Thurs, February 16, 2012, 16:05:32 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin,Michael posted: "You do realize that you're defending multi-billionaire corporations with teams of slick lawyers who are being paid to intimidate and sue people"
I did no such thing Michael. When did I ever mention music companies like Interscope-Geffen? I was merely trying to point out an artist's product is their music, and by downloading it for free you're stealing it. That's the plain truth of the matter; free downloading is stealing. I don't care where you download it from, it's not yours to take for free unless the artists specifically wants it that way.
Michael, you're just a thief. You're a thief who likes stealing. If it wasn't music it would be something else. Not only that, you're a thief with no sense of what you're even doing as you do it. It's not yours to take for free Micheal, why is that so hard to understand? You're getting away with it legally but it's still not morally right. You do understand that don't you? Even YOU should be able to understand that can't you? Of course not, but let me walk into your place of business and steal from you and lets see how long it takes your selfish ass to call the cops on me. Bet it wouldn't take 30 seconds right?
Date: Thurs, February 16, 2012, 13:48:38 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Hysteric laughterCasual fan,
You are so right..... but it's not that easy to write when you can't stop laughing.
Date: Thurs, February 16, 2012, 11:35:57 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, OrlandoDoc's post not yet getting enough love, imo
Date: Thurs, February 16, 2012, 10:36:52 ET
Posted by: Michael,"It's very interesting that the cable and satellite tv companies are very well protected under the law, if you steal their product and they catch you they'll make you pay for it, and if they find you producing multiple copies of their product for sale then they'll get their powerful team of lawyers involved and REALLY change your life for the worse in a significant way."
What a load of crud. People have been copying/recording TV, film and music for decades. There's a fine distinction between stealing something, i.e. depriving the rightful owner of said item, and copying/recording. If somebody copies a movie, for instance, the original remains intact.
You do realize that you're defending multi-billionaire corporations with teams of slick lawyers who are being paid to intimidate and sue people, sick their mafia-run agencies like ASCAP, BMI and SESAC on bars, clubs and mom & pop shops and attempt to extort money just for playing the radio or have a cover band in their establishment, nevermind that extortion is supposed to be illegal but, hey, they've got money and influence so they're above the law. Let's talk about how the RIAA sent their lobbyist Mitch Glazier to Washington in order to sneak in a clause which would redefine all audio recordings as 'work for hire,' which would've stripped away ownership of all artistic works forever. Let's discuss payola. Let's discuss how the major corporations write damaging, Constitution-infringing legislation and treaties in secrecy, without any public scrutiny, such as SOPA, PIPA, ACTA, and the forthcoming TPP, all in an attempt to regulate and censor the internet and dictate what people are allowed to do with their computers, phones, et al.
"Musicians and songwriters have no such protection. They have no union, no team of lawyers, no lobbyists, no legislation, and no politicians willing to enforce fairness on their behalf. So consumers continue to steal digital product and the artist is helpless to stop it. It's just very strange that one side of the digital spectrum is so well protected (digital cable and satellite companies) and the other side of the spectrum is so completely and utterly ignored. But this is the world that musicians and songwriters are forced to deal with. So no, Donald and Walter won't be putting out new CD's every two years unless they really feel they want to for some other reason than monetary reward."
You're basically flaunting the same talking points as the RIAA, which is to say, "Boo-hoo-hoo, the 'poor artists' can't get a break because people are downloading!" Maybe you should research the typical major label contract, how it scams the artist out of due payment, royalties and ownership, and about 'indentured servitude.' The internet is a completely different medium than TV and radio, one which was built from the ground up by everyday people. It's a communication device, encyclopedia, information resource, storage shed, shopping mall, auction house, museum, media house, et al. all wrapped into one. If they regulated the internet, the result would be corporate ownership and mass censorship, a violation of our rights. The internet would thus be broken.
Artists are making more money than ever before -- particularly the independent artists. The internet has effectively cut out the corporate middle-men (i.e. Sony, Warner, and so forth) and allowed people to produce and promote their own material. More money is being shifted away from the crap that the major labels are trying to cram down our throats, which is good for both the industry and the fans. Even if independent artists in general don't sell as many albums as X major label artist, 20% of something is still better than 100% of nothing. There's no longer such a thing as artificial scarcity, at least as far as consumable media is concerned. A song can be replicated millions of times over by anybody with a computer.
Lastly, if you're a musician who's just creating albums solely for money, fame or to tout your next tour, you're in the wrong business. People have been creating art since well before capitalism came along and will continue to produce content regardless. Indeed, capitalism is responsible for killing the art of music. Lady Gaga anyone? Ugh.
Date: Thurs, February 16, 2012, 01:49:03 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
From the upcoming Steely Dan album Supermarket
Not now 86
with Tony Bennett
The Third Derangement
with Lady Gaga
Grandiose Plastic
with Thomas Dolby and Prefab Sprout
Citizen Candy Cane
with Katy Perry
North Dallas
with Rick Perry
Bronco Bills
with Taylor Swift
Voulez Who?
with Lady Antebellum
The Last Maul
with Frank Oz
Pours like Jaegermeister
with Maroon5
West of Dollywood
with Whitney Houston's Ghost
Date: Thurs, February 16, 2012, 01:34:01 ET
Posted by: Chris, nhFUCK that Santana bullshit. Herbie Hancock did it too. Tony Bennett does it every 6 months. I'm not saying collaborations with younger artists are below Steely Dan, but a whole album based on that concept certainly is.
I think the majority of Steely Dan's 70s output is superior to, say, Morph The Cat, but MTC represents Fagen doing his thing 40+ years into his career and not some cynical attempt to get his music radio play by attaching a flash in the pan like Rob Thomas to the first single. Supernatural is a joke.
Date: Wed, February 15, 2012, 22:51:00 ET
Posted by: vic, Lenox, MABillie Rubin - Where did your clueless ass come from?
Date: Wed, February 15, 2012, 19:01:45 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin, Here come the judge!It's very interesting that the cable and satellite tv companies are very well protected under the law, if you steal their product and they catch you they'll make you pay for it, and if they find you producing multiple copies of their product for sale then they'll get their powerful team of lawyers involved and REALLY change your life for the worse in a significant way. Musicians and songwriters have no such protection. They have no union, no team of lawyers, no lobbyists, no legislation, and no politicians willing to enforce fairness on their behalf. So consumers continue to steal digital product and the artist is helpless to stop it. It's just very strange that one side of the digital spectrum is so well protected (digital cable and satellite companies) and the other side of the spectrum is so completely and utterly ignored. But this is the world that musicians and songwriters are forced to deal with. So no, Donald and Walter won't be putting out new CD's every two years unless they really feel they want to for some other reason than monetary reward.
Date: Wed, February 15, 2012, 19:00:26 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!I have to say I am still a bit amused by the suggestion that Don and Walt make a record with younger pop stars a la Santana and Tony freaking Bennett. Furthermore, I completely reject any notion the boys have a responsibility to pass the torch to a younger artist, or artists. They have no such responsibility. Their ONLY responsibility is to make the best art they can. Younger artists can learn by studying what their predecessors do. They can also be good enough (and interesting enough) to be asked to play on a album, have Don or Walt sit-in/show interest in their music/produce their album etc. There are organic ways to help train or influence other musicians, and then there are stunts.
With that said, do you really think Walt and Don would have an interest in an artist who already doesn't share their sensibilities? Why would they? Don and Walt aren't exactly hidden away and their music is still played quite often. If younger artists don't know of it they must be actively avoiding it. If they know of it and don't emulate the approach of Steely Dan, what makes you think a money-grab recording will suddenly change their approach? Many younger artists cite Steely Dan as an influence on their music. Still, most of them are happy to churn out mediocre (or worse) music.
But what makes me chuckle the most is thinking about what might happen if they actually attempted such a folly. Maybe they could invite 20 pop stars to cut one song. 19 of them find their version didn't make the cut (or maybe the song simply doesn't get on the album). Imagine the emotional damage this could cause these marginally talented, over-hyped prima donnas? Now THAT'S entertainment!
Also, let's not pretend these mergers typically make excellent recordings. Most often they do not. Santana's efforts produced a decent track or two, but for the most part was some of the worst music he has ever made. The Sinatra duets, and Bennett duets are simply terrible, IMO.
Keep in mind, these ventures are almost never conceived to make great art. They are simply marketing ploys. When marketing drives the product, you usually end up with dreck.
Doc. Great article. Thanks for sharing!
Date: Wed, February 15, 2012, 18:52:47 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, disappointed idealiststeelydoc,
Thanks. That was a great read!
Date: Wed, February 15, 2012, 18:45:31 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin, Love and TheftW&D would produce far more albums if you could actually sell an album these days. The minute you produce digital product it's stolen. The only reason an artist produces a set of new songs is to sell the associated tour, which Fagen and Becker really don't need to do. Nobody goes to see a Steely Dan show because they just bought the latest digital song compilation, they go to see them because they already know them and want to hear the standard Steely Dan faire.
If Donald and Walter could actually make decent money just producing and selling new songs they would do that alone and not tour at all (probably). But they're not alone in this, every artist is in the same boat. Nearly all the money and artist makes these days is from touring. It's the only thing they have left that can't be stolen from them.
Date: Wed, February 15, 2012, 18:44:15 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Towerhere's a political cartoon about the SD article, possibly the only SD political cartoon:
http://digitalnewspapers.libraries.psu.edu/Repository/getFiles.asp?Style=OliveXLib%3ALowLevelEntityToSaveGifMSIE_COLLEGIAN&Type=text%2Fhtml&Locale=english-skin-custom&Path=DCG%2F1981%2F02%2F18&ChunkNum=-1&ID=Ar00200
Date: Wed, February 15, 2012, 18:21:40 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the TowerHey kids, a 1981 article from the front page of the Penn State Daily Collegian. One student was lucky enough to snag Walter Becker for an interview!
http://digitalnewspapers.libraries.psu.edu/Repository/DCG/1981/02/16/036-DCG-1981-02-16-001-SINGLE.pdf#OLV0_Entity_0001_0002
Date: Wed, February 15, 2012, 15:35:22 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG, PAThank you 101, I was not there!!Enough about Martha, how about to
celebrate the imminent release and tour for the Donald (I wish) the
ultimate Don solo set. I hate rules but w.t.f. pick any 10 songs
from his solo career released and un-released, here goes:
1. confide in me
2.h-gang
3.green flower street
4.centurys end
5.countermoon
6.nightfly
7.tommorrows girls
8. big noise new york
9.ruby baby
10. igy
Date: Wed, February 15, 2012, 11:04:57 ET
Posted by: Michael,Much as I love and appreciate SD's music, I don't appreciate the long stretch of time between albums. That being said, the reality is that they're not going to be around forever to keep churning out new music and somebody will have to step up and fill the void for sophisticated, soulful jazz-pop & rock. Another problem is that most of the upcoming artists lack a similar musical sensibility and nuanced approach. Yet *another* problem lies in the fact that the new crop of performers cannot compete with the monster session performers of the bygone eras, particularly the 70's where it reached its peak. It really is a complex situation when all factors are taken into consideration.
Date: Wed, February 15, 2012, 10:59:41 ET
Posted by: 101, I was thereThe Martha appearance was a favor from Donald's wife to Martha's mother.
Date: Wed, February 15, 2012, 10:10:19 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG, PAHow about Donald working with Martha Wainwright????
Date: Wed, February 15, 2012, 09:49:01 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin, @thechalkboardJazzassin, the reason I'd like to see them do it is because they've never done it. Also, older artists like Fagen and Becker have an obligation to help bring a little sophistication to a generation that really really needs it very badly. All they have is Rap and and angst-ridden junk pop to listen to. Older artists should be finding a way of handing their craft over to a new generation of artists and listeners. I mean what are these guys going to do, die and take all their secrets with them? Da Vinci did that, and it kind of sucked! Lenny shouldn't have burned all those documents man... he should have handed them over to his assistant and let the church be damned!
So yeah, they should do it because it really needs to be done. Somebody has to save this generation before it's too late. Which it may already be.
Date: Wed, February 15, 2012, 07:46:46 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Music Police Dept.Tell me what sort of music you listen to, and I will tell you if it's horrid or not.
Date: Wed, February 15, 2012, 07:23:43 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, outsideBillie,
Of course Michael is a SD insider.
And of course my post was a bit ironical, but not entirely. I just thought your whole idea was strange.
Regarding the Ga Ga thing & Tony Bennett, I think it proves she can actually sing surprisingly much better than what comes across on her own records, which are awful, but to compare Bennett and his corner of the music business with Donald's is pretty far fetched, don't you think? Hell, I like Tony, but he's mostly a great voice who leans heavily on the quality of the well crafted standard tunes. OK, I know he's been writing/co-writing some songs as well, but I think you know what I mean.
But what's this ambition of yours to advice D & W on what to do next? That's stranger than anything to me.
And of course flys should be spelled flies. My bad.
Date: Wed, February 15, 2012, 05:40:22 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -As much as i adore Norah Jones, there is something off-putting about the idea of Don/Walt collaborating with a younger, mainstream artist in general, and John Mayer and/or Lady Gaga in particular.
However, I brought up the idea of Fagen working with an outsider producer in the past. If I remember correctly I mentioned legendary Radiohead producer Nigel Godrich. As Jassazzin points out, Michael Leonhart - although not quite an "outsider" for obvious reasons - should be an interesting pick.
There are a few very detailed videos of him on YouTube, picking apart tracks that he recorded for a solo project. These certainly illustrate that he could bring something new to the formula. Search for Michael, Leonhart, making.
*
Regarding touring: this last tour was the first where I felt strongly that things felt uninspired. Very little "new" material, Walter not at his best, et cetera. God bless/whack Walt - I consistently defend his contributions to the Dan canon - but at this point a Fagen solo tour would be refreshing.
Date: Wed, February 15, 2012, 03:27:35 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South BeachThanks Lewis,
Some of us like myself, always appreciate
when you stop by with some solid tour information.
Date: Wed, February 15, 2012, 03:14:25 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin, gagavisionHey good enough for Tony Bennett more than 100x better for Donald Fagen my friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPAmDULCVrU
Date: Tues, February 14, 2012, 22:45:13 ET
Posted by: Vladimir, SmolenskVlad says Mr. The Dean, not so fasts. This younger musicians are teaching much to Donald Fagen and Walter Becker. Maybe even one of thems youngstars will to invent the mu chord and lets our heroes running wild with that. Maybe we are getting lucky and the next album is "Steely Dan does heavy metal." Ja.
Date: Tues, February 14, 2012, 22:14:34 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Sick to my stomach at Bille's "idea"Methinks Billie Rubin is a troll, or at best someone very unfamiliar with The Dan's modus operandi. Lady Gaga? Excuse me while I clean up the puke from my floor.
Steely Dan might collaborate with some younger musicians, but it will never be for commercial gain. Why in the world would we fans want that, anyway?
Following in Santana's unfortunate steps is only good for financial gain--not artistic success. The record company would LOVE it. And they would probably receive many awards. In case you haven't been paying attention, Don and Walt don't give a rat's ass about either. Why in the world would a Dan fan care about that stuff either?
Next you will be suggesting Don and Walt start judging American Idol-type shows. Perish the thought.
My best guess? If Don and Walt start featuring young talent, they will be jazz artists you've probably never heard of. And I wouldn't have it any other way.
Date: Tues, February 14, 2012, 20:59:50 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin,"Right now most of us are waiting to hear his new solo album which is produced by the more than 26 years younger genious trumpetist/guitarist/multi-instrumentalist Michael Leonhart."
Genius? Wow you're laying it on kind of thick there aren't you Jazzassin? First of all the Leonhart kid is a Steely Dan insider, so that shows no imagination or risktaking on Fagen's part. I mean if not for Steely Dan where would he and his little sister be right now? What I'm talking about is a total outsider, someone not associated with Steely Dan nor would normally be associated with them in any way. The would NEW. That would be something that hasn't been done before. That would demonstrate growth.
Maybe Fagen should do something with John Mayer or Lady Gaga or Adele or all three of them. Gaga would be cool, but she's way too big for Fagen now. Mayer might do it though.
Date: Tues, February 14, 2012, 19:43:49 ET
Posted by: PGE, Art corner brings you...... a couple of familiar faces found on North 12 Street, New York.
http://www.newyorkshitty.com/williamsburg/?p=74774
Date: Tues, February 14, 2012, 17:41:11 ET
Posted by: Lewis, BarcaJune- Sept
Date: Tues, February 14, 2012, 11:58:31 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, @ Billie RubinBillie,
I hope you didn't mean our boys should start touring or recording with second-rate mayflys just because they're eventualy younger or have had a brief (or massive) commercial success just to try to get an even bigger name (or a bigger money bin)? Because Don IS of course already cooperating with younger artists - when they have interesting things of utmost quality to contribute.
Right now most of us are waiting to hear his new solo album which is produced by the more than 26 years younger genious trumpetist/guitarist/multi-instrumentalist Michael Leonhart. Don is 64. Michael is soon to be 38.
And the 26 years that separates them in age is not just any 26 years either... Being born in '48 means you were raised in the '50s and started to bloom musically in the '60s, while Michael, born in '74, is of a totally different generation and culture. Important things happened inbetween there, to say the least...
Take a listen to Michael's solo stuff and you'll find he's an experimental modernist who plays around with loops & samples combined with traditional jazz craftsmanship of the highest degree. That's the kind of younger generation musicians/artists that gets through the narrow needle's eye that is the Steely Dan studio door.
Santana's Supernatural is a piece of shit to my ears, but what do I know. 1oo ooo ooo ooo ooo flys cant be wrong. Crap tastes good!
Date: Tues, February 14, 2012, 11:37:58 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin, cha-ching!Santana's "Supernatural" cd sold over 15 million copies in the United States alone and over 27 million copies worldwide. It was went platinum 15x over. The later singles with Michelle Branch ("Game of Love" and "I'm feeling you") sold millions of copies each.
So no, I don't think it would be a bad idea for Fagen and Becker to attempt something similar.
Date: Tues, February 14, 2012, 09:16:21 ET
Posted by: ccw, dcI think, to his credit, Donald doesn't give a crap about "appealing to younger audiences." He makes plenty of dough and has nothing to prove, so he might as well do what he enjoys.
That said, if he did a project with someone talented, like Loretta Lynn did with Jack White, it could be interesting. (Norah Jones, maybe?) But those Santana collaborative albums always come off as kind of desperate and cheesy, and if Donald decided to do a song with the likes of some tool like the Matchbox 20 guy, I think I'd be nauseous.
Date: Tues, February 14, 2012, 07:01:03 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin, time banditInstead of hooking up with artists his own age (Mike McDonald, Boz Scaggs, Levon Helm) Fagen and Becker should try to do what Carlos Santana did with Michelle Branch and appeal to a younger crowd via a younger artist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gpwgPpswms&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UIojGDIBvI&feature=related
Date: Tues, February 14, 2012, 00:33:55 ET
Posted by: That's an, easy oneSkunk = smoking stinky "skunky" weed = The Doobie Brothers.
Date: Mon, February 13, 2012, 18:46:22 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, UKSkunk: his farting habit, I think
Date: Mon, February 13, 2012, 17:57:27 ET
Posted by: Pezboy, The DanIs anyone aware of how the Skunk got his nickname?
Date: Mon, February 13, 2012, 16:58:02 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, BritetonOh well, if theres no tour that gives me another year to save up more money for my New York Dan Shenanigans I suppose. Might even be able to fly business class from London instead of coach.
Date: Mon, February 13, 2012, 16:03:22 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,Hutch:
I'm still with you in thinking / hoping that there may be a 40th Anniversary tour this summer or fall.
Of course, the Dukes of September / Summer tour would be a good thing too.
Cheers............
Date: Mon, February 13, 2012, 14:20:12 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, one kick wonderWikipedia articles is not always reliable of course, but this little anecdote from Ricky Lawson's Wiki entry is cool enough to post anyway:
Ricky played on Whitney's famous hit, "I Will Always Love You". Ricky has a one note "solo" in the song, where he kicks the bass drum before Whitney's dramatic vocal finale.
He says that this is his favorite solo of his career.
Never underestimate a good kick... ;o)
Date: Mon, February 13, 2012, 13:42:16 ET
Posted by: Flo, ProgressiveHope these guys were insured!
http://www.aandlmovingservices.com/
Date: Mon, February 13, 2012, 09:46:28 ET
Posted by: Hutch,Alright Vic. Now you're happy as a bug in a rug in your little "Vic World".
You could have approached the issue by saying something like, "I don't know Hutch, if history serves as a model, they may not tour this summer". Instead you chose to be a bit of a prick about it and , of course, that's your choice.
Maybe there's just something personally that you don't like about me.
So be it.
Date: Mon, February 13, 2012, 08:20:50 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, PhraxosThat watch can be had here:
http://www.upgnation.com/Friedrich-Nietzsche-Watch.html
Date: Mon, February 13, 2012, 07:26:23 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, also sprach fagenismfagenism,
Pretzel logic! ;o)
Could be a long shot, but could also be the nail's head!
Impressing & amusing it was, either way!
Date: Mon, February 13, 2012, 03:51:52 ET
Posted by: fagenism, Grassless LandIf you Google "one fifteen", your first result will be One Fifteen Artist Management, which on its main artist roster features the band Deacon Blue ("Their name was inspired by a Steely Dan song").
The number 115, when factorized, gives us 5 and 23. May 23 is "Netzach sheb'Malchut" according to the Jewish calendar. Not only does "Netzach" bear resemblence to "Nietzsche", but it also translates to "eternity", which is interesting given that the credo quoted on the donaldfagen.com watch is "the eternal return of the same".
Ergo: really looking forward to May 23!
Date: Sun, February 12, 2012, 23:13:54 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Release dateIf we stretch speculations further: The Nietzsche Clock shows 01.15.
Can a release date be dechipered out of that?
Date: Sun, February 12, 2012, 22:03:03 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton RougeAnd i agree with Jazzassin, Scrurvy, that was some kind of catch on the Nietzsche Thingy!
Date: Sun, February 12, 2012, 21:58:30 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton RougeI was reading some of the coverage on Whitney Houston today and I was struck by the sad similarities with Lady Day (unbelievable talent dissipated, Drugs, abusive men, death in 40's). I wonder if Donald has ever commented publically about the similarities between BH's birth name "Fagan" and Donald's "Fagen." (I don't even know the derivation of the name(s). (I think Hoops played some Bille Holiday this morning on RFD).
Date: Sun, February 12, 2012, 21:53:17 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, ClockwiseScurvy Bro,
Clever observation!
Date: Sun, February 12, 2012, 20:48:42 ET
Posted by: Another Scurvy, BrotherThe watch in the grandfather clock update seems to have the credo inscribed in the same typeface as the Morph cover. Maybe "The Eternal Return of the Same" = next DF album title.
Date: Sun, February 12, 2012, 20:31:31 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the TowerWhitney Houston/Steely Dan connection, from www.theboombox.com:
Six years later, at the 36th Annual Grammy Awards in 1994, Houston would come out victorious, winning Album of the Year for 'The Bodyguard Original Soundtrack' and Record of the Year and Best Pop Vocal Performance for 'I Will Always Love You.' Once again, love prevailed. For Album of the Year, her 'Bodyguard Soundtrack,' which has sold more than 44 million copies worldwide and was certified 17-times platinum, faced Donald Fagen ('Kamakiriad'), Billy Joel ('River of Dreams'), Sting ('If I Ever Lose My Faith in You') and Neil Young ('Harvest Moon').
Date: Sun, February 12, 2012, 20:29:53 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the TowerRoger Nichols' widow, Connie, along with their daughters, accepts Roger's Special Merit Grammy earlier today:
http://www.grammy.com/videos/roger-nichols-family-accepts-grammy-special-merit-award
Date: Sun, February 12, 2012, 19:23:51 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, & Friedrich N.Hillarious Grandfarher Clock UPDATE on donaldfagen.com
Date: Sun, February 12, 2012, 19:00:06 ET
Posted by: Restraining , OrderTPM = Stalker
Date: Sun, February 12, 2012, 17:36:04 ET
Posted by: TPM, New JerseyDoes anyone know Denny Dias' full name? Thanks
Date: Sun, February 12, 2012, 17:31:50 ET
Posted by: vic, hahahahahaGet A HOLD Of Yourself!- Thank you! You took the words right out of my mouth. The Dukes Of September without Fagen, is like a day without sunshine! Read it and weep, Hutch!
Date: Sun, February 12, 2012, 17:26:34 ET
Posted by: shark deville, re. Denny Diasthe Denny Dias situation is pretty well explained in the Making of Aja doc. check the 4-min mark: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKq61QkulZo&feature=related
Date: Sun, February 12, 2012, 13:27:08 ET
Posted by: Get A HOLD Of Yourself!,The Dukes of September ARE:
Donald Fagen
Michael McDonald
Boz Scaggs
Period. End of story.
Date: Sun, February 12, 2012, 13:19:50 ET
Posted by: Hold, The PressesDukes of September dates do not necessarily have to include Fagen or the other musicians who played with them in 2010.
Date: Sun, February 12, 2012, 12:48:51 ET
Posted by: vic, Told YouHutch- I told you that the "40th anniversary tour wasn't going to happen!
Date: Tues, January 24, 2012, 15:52:55 ET
Posted by: vic,
Hutch - You're joking, right. If they didn't tour right after all of those Grammy wins and the induction into the R&R Hall of Fame, what makes you think that they care about 40 years? Your logic if f**ked, not mine. 100-1 they don't tour this year!
Date: Sun, February 12, 2012, 11:52:07 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South BeachThanks Pete!
I guess that news gives more than just a little insight into
what we can expect this summer. Sounds like Steely Dan will
be taking the summer off and I don't expect Donald to premier
any new stuff in the "Rhythm Revue" format.
Hope there is more "stage diving" this year at the shows:
http://www.ticketsreview.com/images/images_generees/generee/top/concerts/d/dukes_of_september_rhythm_revue-tickets.jpg
Date: Sun, February 12, 2012, 10:30:32 ET
Posted by: Pete, New York CityFrom Michael McDonald:
"I wanna thank everyone for the kind birthday wishes! I wish turning 60 was a bit less painful .... But I do appreciate the encouragement very much. I look forward to catching up with all of you this summer as we make our way around the U.S. With the "Dukes of Sept". Should be posting dates soon on the website"
M. McDonald
Date: Sun, February 12, 2012, 08:31:41 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachTPM,
I agree Denny is often overlooked as an important cog in the beginning of Steely Dan and as an excellent player. But to say "it was all Denny's outfit" is really a bit of a stretch. Sure, Don and Walt answered Denny's ad and joined his band (not Steely Dan). But from what I have read, it was Don and Walt who got the ABC contract, wrote all the songs and were clearly the leaders of what eventually became Steely Dan. Do I have my chronology wrong? Perhaps I do.
Still I have a lot of love for Denny's playing, as he has contributed some of the finest sounds to The Dan.
Date: Sat, February 11, 2012, 23:43:17 ET
Posted by: TPM, New JerseyWhat I don't understand is, how do Fagen and Becker get all the damn credit when it was all Denny's outfit? I feel this is extremely biased as even on the official Dan website there is a collage of words/names at the bottom of the site and yet there is no "Denny" or "Skunk". Now I do love my, Dan, I'm wondering if any of you have had the same thoughts as me.
Date: Fri, February 10, 2012, 20:50:54 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!Pete, that's some talented lass. There are a few other youngsters on related links that seem to be exceptionally players, too. Let's just hope they have some taste and keep some artistic integrity (always a long-shot, I know), With luck they (like Sierra Hull) may get to go to Berklee and get to study with people like Daryl Anger and Mark O'Connor. :#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGnpxtuIMtc
While I'm not usually a big fan of note-for-note copies of famous solos, Jess kills this and even throws in a bit of flourish of her own. She also demonstrates very good taste! BTW, as I mentioned earlier, this is a great jogging/workout song, IMO (as is the entire album). I really should start doing that a bit more.
Date: Fri, February 10, 2012, 20:18:42 ET
Posted by: lyrically curious,Hey chaz.seven
Thanks for the scoop!
Can your pristine source fill in the blanks for Mobile Home and Cash Only Island???
Thanks.
Date: Fri, February 10, 2012, 18:23:59 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South BeachA great read.........
http://www.rogernichols.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Roger-Nichols-Technical-Acheivements.pdf
What didn't this great man do?!
Date: Fri, February 10, 2012, 18:13:05 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Dang. All those wonderkids.Shit. I think I just sold my guitars in favor of a lumberjack course.
Date: Fri, February 10, 2012, 15:54:17 ET
Posted by: Pete, New York CityOnly 17!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY2kAXMPHvA
Date: Fri, February 10, 2012, 10:36:54 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicagoThe latest edition of the Dandom Digest was just mailed a few minutes ago. This one covered from January 12th all the way to today.
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- NO, WE HAVEN'T HEARD ...
- DF to fill in at Feb Midnight Rambles
- REDUX: Donald to Guest at Chicagoland Benefit in March
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- Roger Nichols Auction of Gear
- NOT TO MISS: Album Cover Location of "Pretzel Logic"
- Rolling Stone 1977: The Steely Dan Interview
- Jon Herington in Harrisburg, PA
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Thanks for your support through the years, especially Pete and Shari and Gus and remembering Mark and Bill.
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Date: Fri, February 10, 2012, 08:30:50 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the TowerRoger Nichols' personal collection of gear is now being auctioned on ebay through Sweetwater Audio. You can link to the auctions through:
http://www.rogernichols.com/
Date: Fri, February 10, 2012, 05:21:03 ET
Posted by: SS, HKThis guy is my favourite YouTube interpreter of DF.
I never would have expected someone to take a run at this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNWmtPxSKRU
Date: Fri, February 10, 2012, 02:54:55 ET
Posted by: shark, flames archinsweet!
the 2nd verse makes so much more sense now. amazing what a difference a couple words can make
thanks for posting!
Date: Fri, February 10, 2012, 01:20:54 ET
Posted by: chaz.seven, detroiti'm sworn to secrecy, but copied off an SD road computer -
df
Date: Fri, February 10, 2012, 00:44:11 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Chaz: very nice. A "bit" wrangler - those clever boyz!
Date: Fri, February 10, 2012, 00:26:04 ET
Posted by: ,What a great song. It should really get recorded.
Date: Thurs, February 09, 2012, 22:04:52 ET
Posted by: wetside ,Thanks Chaz.
They seem pretty good.
Did the pristine source actually research this, or just give a semi-informed opinion?
Date: Thurs, February 09, 2012, 21:52:48 ET
Posted by: Greg M, the wetsideInteresting, Chaz,
Care to elaborate on the "source"?
Late 90's demo? Lyric sheet from Don's folder?
Date: Thurs, February 09, 2012, 16:22:17 ET
Posted by: Phil, Pau FranceTurning 50 in a couple of years, I'll call Jay to play the solo.
I had never seen that video but the guy has a nice adress book !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N011QYB_ajY&feature=related
Philippe
Date: Thurs, February 09, 2012, 16:15:31 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the TowerChaz
thanks so much, very cool!
Date: Thurs, February 09, 2012, 10:48:14 ET
Posted by: chaz.seven, detroiti never post anywhere but:
from a pristine source - i kid you not:
Wetside Story (or: A Walk on the Wetside)
Count Mickey gets hungry
A bit wrangler�s got to take a break some time
He�s got to feed the machine
Steamer Heaven is empty
Just a couple of kids and behind the counter
The lovely Janine
As soon as he walks in the door she�s smilin'
He covers his eyes with his hands cause:
Everyone knows that it�s scary out there
When you jump to the Wetside
Where it�s cold or it�s loud
Or it�s screaming with light
Where it�s way complex
Hacking through all the harsh FX
Our man goes for the bomber
One of those wax-looking angel food wheelies
With stuff on the top
She gave him back a quarter
Her hand touches his - you could feel the flames arcing
All over the shop
For a moment they spun on the edge of history
And fell into animal time
Everyone knows that it�s scary out there
When you jump to the Wetside
Where it�s cold or it�s loud
Or it�s screaming with light
Where it�s way complex
Hacking through all the harsh FX
BRIDGE:
Back out on the tarmac
The night�s alive with the sweetness of summer
You know this Steamer�s all right
I almost remember
Something kinda cool but it�s already fading
Back to straight black & white
Maybe he needed a hit of downtime
Then he covers his eyes with his hands cause:
Everyone knows that it�s scary out there
When you jump to the Wetside
Where it�s cold or it�s loud
Or it�s screaming with light
Where it�s way complex
Hacking through all the harsh FX
Date: Thurs, February 09, 2012, 10:40:41 ET
Posted by: donald's rhodes,From http://vintagevibedotcom.blogspot.com/2010/01/2009-year-in-review.html
"...we completely refurbished 3 of Donald Fagen's 88 Suitcase Pianos. One was a Fender Rhodes and the other two were Rhodes pianos. We did our best and the finished products were spectacular. We spent 3 full weeks on these pianos with 3 techs on each one. We also did a Wurlitzer 146 and a Clavinet D6 for Donald."
I think Donald primarily uses Mark I 88 key suitcase models. Live is a single MXR, two for recording. There is a link somewhere that claims he also uses a ring mod live, but that seems really unlikely to me.
Search the Blue archives for other mentions of a Los Angeles repair shop doing work on Donald's Rhodes.
Date: Thurs, February 09, 2012, 08:55:59 ET
Posted by: Matt, Chattanooga, TNI know it's off topic (not about Berkeley), but does anyone know much about Ronald's Fender Rhodes? Which model, how many keys, what he runs it through other then the dual Phase 90s?
Date: Wed, February 08, 2012, 19:05:13 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, HoustonNice Jim. That was funny.
Date: Wed, February 08, 2012, 19:05:11 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, HoustonNice Jim. That was funny.
Date: Wed, February 08, 2012, 18:16:10 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton RougeWell, I got my copy of "Writing Better Lyrics" by Berklee Professor Pat Pattison in the mail today. It didn't cost me $40,000 and I'm already writing better lyrics. Check it out:
In the corner
Of my eye
I saw you in Rudy's
You were very high
You were high
It was a cryin' disgrace
On the Wet Side.
So what do you think? Has potential...?
Date: Wed, February 08, 2012, 09:14:42 ET
Posted by: Sandra Good, Upper Manhattan neighborhood watchMister Fagen!,
Apparently our many notices have gone unread sir! Would you PLEASE remove your lifesized bust from the front of your apartment building to avoid further legal action? The neighborhood committee approved this for ONE WEEK ONLY, not SIX YEARS!
Thank You!
Sandra Good, Nieghborhood Watch
http://i.imgur.com/vhTKW.jpg
Date: Wed, February 08, 2012, 09:06:58 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, Brite TonGlad you like the Pretzel Logic hunt, I'm planning on doing it when I'm over in New York, anyone fancy joining me?
Date: Tues, February 07, 2012, 21:07:26 ET
Posted by: shark deville, the platformthe Pretzel Logic scavenger hunt was fun. thanks for posting!
Date: Tues, February 07, 2012, 18:07:29 ET
Posted by: Klaus&therooster, PhiladelphiaI know I'm late to this party, haven't checked up on the bluebook in a while! but here's my take on Wet Side Story for what it's worth, I think Don got tongue tied during the 2nd verse and screwed it up. Obviously we all know the symbolism here in terms of what "wet" means, I won't bore you with it other than to say it's genius writing using a bakery to symbolize a drug house.
Count Mickey gets hungry
Biz Wrangler's gotta take a break sometimes
Gotta feed the machine
Steamer Heaven is empty
A couple of kids in behind the counter
With the lovely Janine
As soon as he walks in the door, she's smilin'
Covers his eyes with his hands
Cause everyone knows that it's scary out there
When you jump to the wetside
Where it's colder, it�s louder, it�s screaming with life
And it's way complex
Hacking through all the harsh effects
Mick goes for �the bomber�
A little sparkling angel food healing
With the gunk on the top
She gives back Mick a quarter
Intense tears and you can feel the flames arcing
Up over the shop
For the moment they spun on the edge of history
Fell into animal times
[Chorus]
[Solo]
Blacked out on the tarmac
It was alive with the sweet sounds of summer
Although the Steamer's all right
Mick tries to remember
Somethin kinda cool, but it's already fading
Back to straight black and white
"Baby, I needed a hit of downtime"
Covers his eyes with his hands
Date: Tues, February 07, 2012, 17:28:46 ET
Posted by: If anybody's interested...,...I'm still trying to track down my cousin's other buddy for some first hand info on where those black helicopters come from and whether anything worth having is worth paying for. He knows, believe me, because he's my cousin's buddy and he's had first hand experience.
Date: Tues, February 07, 2012, 10:12:14 ET
Posted by: Chris, nhBerklee still gives scholarships, ya know ... in fact, two members of my family were granted full rides within the last couple of years, both are fantastic and hard working musicians. One of them also got a full ride to their 5 week summer program for high school students; all told he could take advantage of everything Berklee has to offer without sending a dime their way, which goes against the "Berklee only cares about $" argument. (And before you ask: they're two white kids from NH with no connections to the school - there are no quotas being fulfilled here.)
Just because you personally would not pay 50k a year to attend the school - I wouldn't either! - doesn't mean the entire institution is a worthless scam.
Date: Tues, February 07, 2012, 08:03:46 ET
Posted by: Michael,@such as?
"Michael, what are the better and more cost effective ways to learn jazz music that include playing with the best players in a great music city and making connections available nowhere else?"
There's a myriad of ways to learn jazz music, including jazz schools which don't cost an arm and a leg financially, tutors who know their stuff, connecting with jazz musicians whether online or in person, etc. You make it sound as if Berklee were the only place in the world where musicians have the opportunity to get together and discuss, study and perform jazz music.
"If you have the money, seems like a great opportunity to study at Berklee."
Unfortunately this creates an air of exclusivity where learning jazz at Berklee is only for those who are more well off. Not everyone can afford to throw away $40,000+, ya know. Perhaps people should investigate the lives of the jazz greats and stack those experiences up with the way Berklee has taken their art and turned it into a lucrative business product.
"Does your argument apply only to jazz, or physics and medicine too?"
I'm not sure it's safe to answer that.
@Fezzie
"Michael,you don't go to Berklee to learn how to play!! You go to Berklee to take what you have already learned and hopefully add the creativity needed to push yourself and your talent forward."
Yeah but at what cost? With today's music environment, there's more avenues to a career than ever before -- but also far more saturation, so it's more difficult to be heard among all the noise. All I can say is that if you truly love music and are dedicated to your craft, you can either find a way or make one yourself.
Date: Tues, February 07, 2012, 06:40:11 ET
Posted by: Hold The, SaltI dig this guy's perseverance. But I think pretzels have gone up more than tenfold since.
http://www.popspotsnyc.com/pretzel_logic/
Date: Mon, February 06, 2012, 18:06:07 ET
Posted by: hoops, passin' throughJust because it is the only song I know that explicitly mentions the Berklee School, I'm reminded of one of my favorite Frank Zappa songz, "Yo Cats":
"You have made it
You are cool.
You have been to the Berklee School"
The rest of the lyrics are hilarious...
And don't forget our own Berklee greetings to Messrs. Becker and Fagen:
http://www.dandom.com/essayssatire/phd/
Best,
Jim
P.S. Be sure to hit "reload" on the main Bluebook page before clicking the "post" button. I had to change the script a bit. Thanks to all who advised me of the spam...YouDaBest.
Date: Mon, February 06, 2012, 17:24:13 ET
Posted by: Fezzie, BostonMichael,you don't go to Berklee to learn how to play!! You go to Berklee to take what you have already learned and hopefully add the creativity needed to push yourself and your talent forward.
Date: Mon, February 06, 2012, 16:37:28 ET
Posted by: such as?,Michael, what are the better and more cost effective ways to learn jazz music that include playing with the best players in a great music city and making connections available nowhere else?
If you have the money, seems like a great opportunity to study at Berklee.
Does your argument apply only to jazz, or physics and medicine too?
Date: Mon, February 06, 2012, 12:27:00 ET
Posted by: On, The Subjecthttp://advisors.berkleemusicblogs.com/2011/02/01/interview-with-guitarist-wayne-krantz/
Date: Mon, February 06, 2012, 11:40:15 ET
Posted by: Michael,I did? Excuse me for this but somebody posted about Berklee and I added my two cents. Nobody here can justify spending tens of thousands of dollars in order to go learn about jazz music. There are better, more cost-efficient ways.
Date: Mon, February 06, 2012, 10:24:22 ET
Posted by: Chris, nhMichael likes to goad posters into endless debates about concerts or colleges he didn't attend. Nothing to see here.
Date: Mon, February 06, 2012, 08:55:10 ET
Posted by: Michael, @The Dean"As it is clear Michael has quite a myopic view of education (at least case musical education) there is really no use in continuing this thread. So I will make this my last post on the matter."
Please rephrase that to "myopic view of scam music education."
"The request, 'Name for me ONE THING that you absolutely must go to Berklee in order to learn' is silly at its face. Is there ONE THING one must go to Harvard to learn, if one plans to go into law? Or John's Hopkins med school, if one plans to be a doctor?"
Non-sequitor. The diplomas one obtains at med school, law school, et al. actually have weight in the real world whereas a diploma from Berklee isn't worth squat -- nobody cares.
"The point that seems to evade him is, there isn't one answer for every person. There are many approaches, most of the valid for at least some."
I never questioned that; I do seriously question why people like yourself seem to feel justified in defending a scam business like Berklee. The functional knowledge behind the art of music shouldn't be held under lock & key by a select few.
"Also, I don't quite understand the image of students allowed to 'run amok' on campus. I have to wonder if Michael ever went to college or graduate school. I can tell you, FOR ME, the lessons learned inside the classroom and those learned while mingling with my fellow classmates were both extremely valuable. (I should note this was not a music education.)"
It's obvious that you don't understand the underlying point, that being that you cannot mass-produce great musicianship. That they have so many alumni on campus means two things: 1) Berklee is making a mint, and 2) there is poor quality control.
"I know I wouldn't have been able to learn nearly as much without excellent teachers. I don't need a ton of structure and am very capable of learning on my own--but I'm also a bit lazy and tend to take the path of least resistance if not challenged. I also believe there is only so much you can learn from one teacher. Having a variety of professors and fellow grad students (and undergraduate students I taught) all at one place was an ideal atmosphere for learning. FOR ME. I have to believe it would be likewise for many others, some of whom might be music students."
Perhaps but that still doesn't justify the insanely high tuition. Furthermore, it's common knowledge that many former alumni are bribed by their teachers into paying them extra for extra-cirricular lessons. For the last time, try reading what they have to say.
"I can use my brother as an example. He was a professional musician since the age of 15 or 16. He studied on and off, informally and in short spurts, with guys like Lenny Breau among others. Played in Holiday Inn-type bands, recorded with Al Green, traveled up and down the US, had a long stint in the New Orleans area, etc. He played country, blues, rock--whatever. He was an excellent, well rounded musician and songwriter. (I say was as he is too disabled to play anymore.) He did NOT attend Berklee or any other conservatory/formal institution. I honestly believe he would have been more successful, would likely be in better health today and had more opportunities to develop his own projects had he been exposed to some place like Berklee. I'm as positive as one can be it wouldn't have stripped the creativity or soul from his playing and music. In fact, it likely would have given him more tools to use in the creative process."
Uh-huh, and put him in a financial hole ...unless he's well-off.
"So while I think Michael's insistence on naming ONE THING you must go to Berklee to learn, I will change the question to make it a bit more relevant to an intelligent conversation. What can a conservatory do for a student that they couldn't just get on their own? Well I have to guess here, but I imagine it provides: A community with an assortment of trained teachers and like-minded students (most fine musicians in one aspect or another) all in one place. Opportunities to play various genres, with different people and with some very well regarded mentors. I'm not so sure a kid from Bumfuck Idaho has all of those great resources at his/her immediate disposal."
News flash: Even when there were no music colleges, musicians were meeting up, trading ideas, learning and progressing the art of music. Nobody needs a college campus to do those things. Lastly, the internet has made it possible to be heard by millions of people, eschewing the traditional methods. There's never been more opportunities for the creative folks. Regardless, you still have to create your own opportunities.
"Nobody here is suggesting one MUST go to Berklee or another conservatory, MUST spend a ton of money to get the education. But to write it off as an option for some--and a damn fine one at that--seems very strange indeed."
"...a damn fine one..." I beg to differ, as does plenty former alumni.
"Finally, IMO the vast majority of artists in any genre (music, film making, fine art, writing, etc) are mediocre, copycat sound-alikes, uninteresting, etc. But I believe a somewhat smaller percentage of trained artists fall into that category--hell at least they are competent. To think most jazz (or blues) artists of the past were terrific because they were untrained is absurd. Most of them were mediocre, too. We just don't know, or talk, about them today. Plus many of those who were terrific had training in a different form-- the ability to learn from the masters while playing with them in various big bands, traveling shows, etc. Those opportunities simply don't exist today. At best they are few and far between. The opportunity to learn from highly skilled players, and play with an assortment of like-minded colleagues, is a void filled by today's conservatories."
Utter nonsense. None of the former jazz pioneers which Berklee and others attempt to model themselves after had any sort of formal jazz theory training. Nobody needs to pay insane tuition in order to sit down and play with like-minded individuals because nobody needs their permission to get together and play.
"Now, if someone doesn't much care the sound of many of the graduates of a particular school--OK. Fair point. The idea they have no purpose, or offer anything to their students is a position I don't understand."
They're destroying jazz by turning it into a pastime for mostly rich kids with big trust funds -- that's who by-and-large Berklee is attracting. The more free, soulful, emotive jazz of yesteryears has been replaced with the conservatory-led smooth jazz and it's all thanks to insititutes like Berklee.
Date: Mon, February 06, 2012, 00:31:05 ET
Posted by: AM/FM, StereoJust some silliness courtesy of today's Rhymes With Orange: No static at all...
http://www.newsok.com/entertainment/comics?feature_id=Rhymes_with_Orange&feature_date=2012-02-06
Date: Sun, February 05, 2012, 22:52:05 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachAs it is clear Michael has quite a myopic view of education (at least case musical education) there is really no use in continuing this thread. So I will make this my last post on the matter.
The request, "Name for me ONE THING that you absolutely must go to Berklee in order to learn" is silly at its face. Is there ONE THING one must go to Harvard to learn, if one plans to go into law? Or John's Hopkins med school, if one plans to be a doctor? The point that seems to evade him is, there isn't one answer for every person. There are many approaches, most of the valid for at least some.
Also, I don't quite understand the image of students allowed to "run amok" on campus. I have to wonder if Michael ever went to college or graduate school. I can tell you, FOR ME, the lessons learned inside the classroom and those learned while mingling with my fellow classmates were both extremely valuable. (I should note this was not a music education.)
I know I wouldn't have been able to learn nearly as much without excellent teachers. I don't need a ton of structure and am very capable of learning on my own--but I'm also a bit lazy and tend to take the path of least resistance if not challenged. I also believe there is only so much you can learn from one teacher. Having a variety of professors and fellow grad students (and undergraduate students I taught) all at one place was an ideal atmosphere for learning. FOR ME. I have to believe it would be likewise for many others, some of whom might be music students.
I can use my brother as an example. He was a professional musician since the age of 15 or 16. He studied on and off, informally and in short spurts, with guys like Lenny Breau among others. Played in Holiday Inn-type bands, recorded with Al Green, traveled up and down the US, had a long stint in the New Orleans area, etc. He played country, blues, rock--whatever. He was an excellent, well rounded musician and songwriter. (I say was as he is too disabled to play anymore.) He did NOT attend Berklee or any other conservatory/formal institution. I honestly believe he would have been more successful, would likely be in better health today and had more opportunities to develop his own projects had he been exposed to some place like Berklee. I'm as positive as one can be it wouldn't have stripped the creativity or soul from his playing and music. In fact, it likely would have given him more tools to use in the creative process.
So while I think Michael's insistence on naming ONE THING you must go to Berklee to learn, I will change the question to make it a bit more relevant to an intelligent conversation. What can a conservatory do for a student that they couldn't just get on their own? Well I have to guess here, but I imagine it provides: A community with an assortment of trained teachers and like-minded students (most fine musicians in one aspect or another) all in one place. Opportunities to play various genres, with different people and with some very well regarded mentors. I'm not so sure a kid from Bumfuck Idaho has all of those great resources at his/her immediate disposal.
Nobody here is suggesting one MUST go to Berklee or another conservatory, MUST spend a ton of money to get the education. But to write it off as an option for some--and a damn fine one at that--seems very strange indeed.
Finally, IMO the vast majority of artists in any genre (music, film making, fine art, writing, etc) are mediocre, copycat sound-alikes, uninteresting, etc. But I believe a somewhat smaller percentage of trained artists fall into that category--hell at least they are competent. To think most jazz (or blues) artists of the past were terrific because they were untrained is absurd. Most of them were mediocre, too. We just don't know, or talk, about them today. Plus many of those who were terrific had training in a different form-- the ability to learn from the masters while playing with them in various big bands, traveling shows, etc. Those opportunities simply don't exist today. At best they are few and far between. The opportunity to learn from highly skilled players, and play with an assortment of like-minded colleagues, is a void filled by today's conservatories.
Now, if someone doesn't much care the sound of many of the graduates of a particular school--OK. Fair point. The idea they have no purpose, or offer anything to their students is a position I don't understand.
Date: Sun, February 05, 2012, 19:21:59 ET
Posted by: Michael,"I've know there some backlash against Berklee and have heard some of the same criticism Michael spews. Basically that Berklee turns out musicians that sound the same, lack creativity, etc. I'm sure, as with most any learning institution, there are a fair share of people who are disappointed with their education (or angry they didn't score a big job after paying the high rate of tuition). Some people simply aren't that creative/talented/hard-working/etc."
Yeah, that's the ticket -- because Berklee doesn't produce nearly as many quality musicians as it likes to pretend, blame it on those failiure alumni. If Berklee were sincere in their endeavor to advance the art of music, they wouldn't allow a thousand students to run amok around campus. Instead, they'd focus on a select few and concentrate on individual development. They allow so many people in because Berklee is all about the money. Again, studentsreview.com paints a much more realistic picture, but you can't be bothered with the truth so what's the use?
"Any amount of training isn't going to make them interesting."
Maybe some of them would've been good but Berklee is in the habit of stripping people of their individuality. Try reading some of the complaints leveled against them. If somebody wants to learn pop, they have to learn smooth jazz-pop. If somebody wants to learn funk, they have to learn smooth jazz-funk. Et al. Seems like everything in their cirriculum involves jazz.
"Others are already talented and creative and are looking for formal guidance and trying to grow their talent with the aid of outstanding teachers."
Again, no aspiring musician needs to go into the hole $40,000+ in order to receive proper guidance.
"Statements such as 'I am 100% opposed to the conservatory approach of schools like Berklee' and 'There's absolutely nothing that they can teach you which you cannot teach yourself' are frankly too idiotic to discuss further. Typically absolute pronouncements of this kind are useless in intelligent discourse."
A) I, among many others, are against the conservatory approach. Perhaps that's why 99% of all of today's jazz incorporates that same squeaky-clean sound and completely lacks any semblance of soul or passion. Small wonder that real jazz music is all but dead.
B) Name for me ONE THING that you absolutely must go to Berklee in order to learn. Go ahead -- I DEFY YOU.
Date: Sun, February 05, 2012, 17:06:34 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!Doc Mu says,
"Whether it is Berklee, Cal-Berkeley, NYU, Juilliard, Indiana Jacobs School of Music, Harvard, Eastman, Oberlin, Michigan, Rice, or School of Hard Knocks there is no right path to commercial and/or artistic success."
Indeed. Also what is "success" to any particular individual? Is someone not a successful musician if we haven't heard of them? If they are not involved in a financially successful musical endeavor? Is the 2nd chair violinist in a good regional symphony "successful" musically? What about your basic working musician in a local, or traveling band who makes his/her modest living playing music. Are they successful? What about the lawyer who decides to eschew a career in music, but still enjoys playing beautifully for family, friends and (perhaps most importantly him/herself)?
I've know there some backlash against Berklee and have heard some of the same criticism Michael spews. Basically that Berklee turns out musicians that sound the same, lack creativity, etc. I'm sure, as with most any learning institution, there are a fair share of people who are disappointed with their education (or angry they didn't score a big job after paying the high rate of tuition). Some people simply aren't that creative/talented/hard-working/etc. Any amount of training isn't going to make them interesting. Others are already talented and creative and are looking for formal guidance and trying to grow their talent with the aid of outstanding teachers.
Don said it best: "There are as many roads to greatness as there are people capable of greatness."
Statements such as "I am 100% opposed to the conservatory approach of schools like Berklee" and "There's absolutely nothing that they can teach you which you cannot teach yourself" are frankly too idiotic to discuss further. Typically absolute pronouncements of this kind are useless in intelligent discourse.
Date: Sun, February 05, 2012, 13:39:02 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Interesting factoid - The Berklee Mascot = Mingus the Cat
Whether it is Berklee, Cal-Berkeley, NYU, Juilliard, Indiana Jacobs School of Music, Harvard, Eastman, Oberlin, Michigan, Rice, or School of Hard Knocks there is no right path to commercial and/or artistic success.
Date: Sun, February 05, 2012, 13:38:55 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Interesting factoid - The Berklee Mascot = Mingus the Cat
Whether it is Berklee, Cal-Berkeley, NYU, Juilliard, Indiana Jacobs School of Music, Harvard, Eastman, Oberlin, Michigan, Rice, or School of Hard Knocks there is no right path to commercial and/or artistic success.
Date: Sun, February 05, 2012, 13:26:54 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton Rouge@Q: I just blew hot tea out me nose. Thanks.
Date: Sun, February 05, 2012, 12:38:58 ET
Posted by: mick karn,Pino Palladino is a great bass player.
Mick Karn was Mick Karn, a complete original.
Date: Sun, February 05, 2012, 11:27:20 ET
Posted by: Q2, liiJim,
He's giving Krantz some kind of crap about his Berkley education. I can't make it out completely, but it's something like "You paid 40K a year to go there and you can't play any better than that?"
Date: Sun, February 05, 2012, 10:38:16 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton Rouge@ Q:
"Teahouse on the Tracks." (Yet another song I don't remember hearing at my first Steely Dan show...) BTW, get your equalizer to tell us What Donald says at the end of "Morph The Cat."
Date: Sun, February 05, 2012, 10:21:11 ET
Posted by: Q, 2Something was off with my car's equalizer, and a previously unintelligible speaking voice became clear as a bell. After hearing it that way, I can now pick it up hearing it with a normal mix.
In which song does a voice say "I hear they have somebody good playing tonight."
Date: Sun, February 05, 2012, 08:04:24 ET
Posted by: Michael,@Jim Taylor
"I remember you from around rarities night. You have not one positive thing to say about anything."
As far as rarities night was concerned, I was one of several who were disappointed, but so what? What's it to you? I speak my mind in a direct manner. I speak positively about good things and negatively about bad things. Is that ok with you, DAD?
"However I need to address one thing. Mr. Breithaupt never said 'it's ok to blow a ridiculous amount of money on tuition just to learn (jazz) music theory.'"
You're right, he didn't outright come out and say that, but he did give a list of people who went there at one time or another and went on to have a career. For every one of those people listed, how many have come out of there in debt and jobless or working part-time to try and pay back their exorbitant debt? Nobody, and I mean nobody, should have to pay $40,000+ in order to learn anything about music.
"That is something you made up, just like you made up all the other hurtful stuff about his award. But then, that's what trolls do."
By calling me a troll, you think that gives you an air of superiority. News flash: your word isn't any more valid than mine. As for his awards, was it not you who chimed in: "I think it's pretty rich that Michael feels the need to lecture an Emmy Award winner on one's 'chances of having a career as a working musician'"?
"You have a perfect right to be a troll. But from now on ...<crickets>"
Well hmm, guess that shows me. Whatever will I do from now on? :/
@DonBreithaput
"He had me at 'first-hand experience from one of my cousin's buddies.'"
Oh, my bad. I put that in the wrong context. Guess you've really got me there.
Despite your list of people who went to Berklee (no matter how short their stint) and went on to success, I'm sure it would be quite embarrasing to list the thousands upon thousands who've attended throughout the years that didn't enjoy similar success.
Date: Sun, February 05, 2012, 02:33:57 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, TorontoHe had me at "first-hand experience from one of my cousin's buddies."
Date: Sun, February 05, 2012, 00:12:19 ET
Posted by: Trolli, TrollsvilleMichael is not Michael.
Date: Sat, February 04, 2012, 23:56:24 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton Rouge@,Michael: I went back and looked at some of your previous posts. I remember you from around rarities night. You have not one positive thing to say about anything. I have come to the conclusion that you are a troll. Your sole purpose in coming here is is to sow discord and bad vibes in the community. That means that I have broken my long standing rule "do not feed the trolls."
However I need to address one thing. Mr. Breithaupt never said "it's ok to blow a ridiculous amount of money on tuition just to learn (jazz) music theory." That is something you made up, just like you made up all the other hurtful stuff about his award. But then, that's what trolls do. I was the one who brought up Berklee, because I get different perspectives and learn techniques by looking at some of their Songwriting videos on You Tube, and they mentioned John Mayer.
You have a perfect right to be a troll. But from now on ...<crickets>
Date: Sat, February 04, 2012, 23:54:46 ET
Posted by: Drjay, SFFurthermore ,I liked Pino Palladino better when his name was Mick Karn
Date: Sat, February 04, 2012, 20:18:14 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Most of the Fagen title appear to be a yuk, but I'd certainly like to hear Potter and Krantz in spades on the new one.
Date: Sat, February 04, 2012, 20:15:45 ET
Posted by: Michael,@Jim Taylor, oh, I'm sorry. I had no idea that I was in the presence of royalty. *sarc*
For one thing, good for him on winning (being handed) an award which, you know, was done solely on artistic merit. I mean, it had absolutely nothing to do with studio execs cherry-picking favorites and patting themselves on the back. Does that mean that he should be going around telling people that it's ok to blow a ridiculous amount of money on tuition just to learn (jazz) music theory? How can you possibly teach an aspiring musician what works best for him/her when you've got about a thousand other people on campus all learning via the same methodical routine? Where does the individuality come into play? Who is teaching these people and what qualifies them? I'd much rather listen to what the average student has to say rather than a musician who's already secure. After all, he's the exception, not the norm.
@shark, no, not offhand. I haven't heard that song in quite awhile; last I recall, there was a bootleg of a live performance of it floating around. I would assume that somebody somewhere has already had a go at posting the lyrics.
Date: Sat, February 04, 2012, 19:47:08 ET
Posted by: shark, just wonderingMichael-
do you happen to know the lyrics to Wet Side Story? thanks
Date: Sat, February 04, 2012, 14:15:51 ET
Posted by: I knew a guy, who knew a guyMy god! I had no idea! One of my cousin's buddies told me that he knew where WB's '54 Strat was, who shot Kennedy, and that he had been abducted by aliens. I stupidly dismissed him as a crackpot.
Date: Sat, February 04, 2012, 12:56:44 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton RougeI think it's pretty rich that Michael feels the need to lecture an Emmy Award winner on one's "chances of having a career as a working musician." That cousin wasn't Dupree, by chance?
Date: Sat, February 04, 2012, 08:26:23 ET
Posted by: Michael, @DonBreithauptI suggest you go to studentsreview.com and read up on some of the more current first-hand experiences. For one thing, many of the people you listed didn't even graduate. Donald Fagen explained in the past that he didn't get far beyond any rudimentary theory, and his stint in Berklee was short-lived. Of course you'll get the occasional few who do sound different but that's because they learned how to think for themselves. From what I understand, Steve Vai would lock himself up in his dorm with his buddies, cover the windows and play the kind of music that he enjoyed in secret because the campus was far too jazz-oriented.
As far as classical training is concerned, many of the former jazz masters who Berklee is trying to emulate didn't take any formal jazz lessons because they didn't yet exist. Instead, many of them had classical training and took what they learned and applied it to jazz which, btw, was much more about 'feel' and 'soul' than any sort of applied theory.
Anytime you have a massive campus/faculty such as Berklee does, the quality control suffers tremendously because there's far less development on an individual level. If a student doesn't understand something and seeks extracirricular assistance from one of the faculty, they essentially bribe the hapless student into paying yet more money. (Funny, I never had this problem while in school...)
There's a laundry list of issues with Berklee, including first-hand experience from one of my cousin's buddies, but I don't need to go down that route. Suffice to say, your chances of having a career as a working musician does not increase by going to Berklee -- you must create your own opportunities. There's absolutely nothing that they can teach you which you cannot teach yourself.
Date: Fri, February 03, 2012, 20:45:10 ET
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Date: Fri, February 03, 2012, 18:01:03 ET
Posted by: SB, NashvilleJon Herington and Steely Dan story
http://blogs.poughkeepsiejournal.com/sonicstorm/2012/02/03/jon-herington-and-steely-dan/
Date: Fri, February 03, 2012, 17:19:51 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, TorontoI can't speak to what Berklee is about now, or to the ~$40K/yr tuition they currently charge (I was on full scholarship back in the day), but I can tell you there was none of the cookie-cutter mentality Michael describes in evidence when I was there. It was all about interest-driven study and celebrating individual approaches. And N.B. Classical theory and performance are qualitatively different from the curriculum at a jazz (or "applied music") program.
I submit to you that John Abercrombie, Toshiko Akiyoshi, Pedro Aznar, Victor Bailey, Richie Beirach, Jeff Berlin, Gary Burton, Terri Lyne Carrington, Bill Chase, Bruce Cockburn, Vinnie Colaiuta, Paula Cole, Julian Coryell, Gavin DeGraw, Al Di Meola, Booker Ervin, Melissa Etheridge, Kevin Eubanks, Donald Fagen, Bill Frisell, Hal Galper, Jan Hammer, Roy Hargrove, Juliana Hatfield, Bruce Hornsby, Keith Jarrett, Quincy Jones, Diana Krall, Joey Kramer, Abe Laboriel, Chuck Loeb, Joe Lovano, Natalie Maines, Aimee Mann, Arif Mardin, Eric Marienthal, Branford Marsalis, John Mayer, Brad Mehldau, Dominic Miller, Rob Mounsey, Danilo Perez, Mike Portnoy, Antonio Sanchez, John Scofield, Howard Shore, Alan Silvestri, Steve Smith, Esperanza Spalding, Mike Stern, Susan Tedeschi, Steve Vai, Sadao Watanabe, Ernie Watts and Joe Zawinul (Berklee alumni all) do not sound alike.
There are as many roads to greatness as there are people capable of greatness.
Date: Fri, February 03, 2012, 14:39:11 ET
Posted by: The Kid will live and learn,Mayer's talented but needs his ass kicked in one way or the other. Better yet, maybe he'll do it to/for himself.
Date: Fri, February 03, 2012, 11:38:23 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicagoHicnic: thanks for bringing that up about Clint Black again, good reminder. Now I wouldn't know a Clint Black song if I was hit over my head, but, as we discussed here quite a while back, Clint especially loves "Josie."
Bests,
Jim
Date: Fri, February 03, 2012, 11:37:57 ET
Posted by: Today, in SD History5th anniversary of the Woodstock shows with Donald and Phoebe Snow.
Date: Fri, February 03, 2012, 10:22:35 ET
Posted by: Hicnic,One of Clint Black's biggest influences? Bodacious cowboy -
http://www.rgj.com/article/20120202/ENT/302020025/Clint-Black-s-musical-influences-run-deep
Date: Fri, February 03, 2012, 07:36:11 ET
Posted by: Michael,I am 100% opposed to the conservatory approach of schools like Berklee which thrive on selling their name brand in order to woo people with stars in their eyes. Most of the people who come out of those schools wind up sounding the same; they're stripped of their identity. Furthermore, the tuition is insane -- nobody should have to pay so much money in order to learn music. That's why most alumni wind up in debt and working menial jobs in order to pay it all back.
The best way to learn how to compose and perform music is to compose and perform music. Trial by error. Develop your own sound, not someone else's.
DON'T go to Berklee. If you want to have a solid foundation in music theory and performance, take up classical instead.
Date: Thurs, February 02, 2012, 23:15:19 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Toronto"True Winter" is all me, and thanks!
Date: Thurs, February 02, 2012, 20:54:05 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton RougeDon: Well, Pat Pattison is a hell of a teacher,and it shows in your work as well as John's. I like how he stresses that you really haven't even begun the song until you start to rewrite. That's really hard to do, because you sweat to get to that first draft point and you like it, but you know it could be better, tighter. I see that in John Mayer's work as well as yours. I can't remember now if you wrote "True Winter" by yourself or with your brother, but that is some kind of fine song.
Date: Thurs, February 02, 2012, 20:40:48 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton RougeAnd jog to "Lunch with Gina" every day. You'll be as fit as a fiddle!
Date: Thurs, February 02, 2012, 20:23:48 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, TorontoJim, I studied with Pat Pattison when I was at Berklee in the mid-eighties. The songwriting dep't was just getting started then. Pat always pulled great examples to analyze, including "Black Cow"! BTW, I saw Mayer live a few years ago, and he killed...
Date: Thurs, February 02, 2012, 20:16:46 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton RougeI was watching a video lecture by Pat Pattison of Berklee School of Music. He was using "Your Body is a Wonderland" as an example of a well crafted song. I agree. I think that John Mayer accomplished a lot very quickly at a very young age, and that made a lot of people lose sight of the talent and get bogged down in other thngs. When I do "Why Georgia" in my acoustic gigs, it always gets a good response and it's fun to play. I have never had a listener come up to me and say, I don't like that song because the songwriter is :an asshole, too young, too cocky, etc. I personally hope that I am listening to him in 20 years. And, as a Baton Rouge native, anyone who is good enough for Buddy Guy, is good enough for me.
Date: Thurs, February 02, 2012, 12:14:18 ET
Posted by: mayer,John Mayer toured and recorded with Steve Jordan (Walk Between the Raindrops) and Pino Palladino. Killer trio.
I cannot stand Mayer's voice or personality, but he is one tasty musician.
Date: Wed, February 01, 2012, 22:47:27 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachCabo, I get your point and I think many here would like to here the old stuff properly rendered in the way only Steely Dan can. If you asked me a year ago, I'd say there was absolutely no way you would see anything like that. It seemed as though they disowned their unreleased stuff and even some of their older official material.
But after the last tour, when they pulled out a few old nuggets and even included unreleased songs, I'm not so sure. I'd say there is a glimmer of hope. I doubt it would be on the scale of the Van Halen release, but you might see some stuff on an anthology or something like that. Just a thought.
Date: Wed, February 01, 2012, 22:36:51 ET
Posted by: Drjay, SFI liked John Mayer and his chops better when his name was Eric Clapton
Date: Wed, February 01, 2012, 20:43:32 ET
Posted by: Cabo, WaboDean - I agree that there is no comparison between Van Halen as artists and Steely Dan, but I like the notion of revisiting one's unfinished catalog and producing a completed product. Oh, how I'd love to hear "Talkin' 'bout My Home' and 'I Can't Write Home About You' in full band studio quality.
Date: Wed, February 01, 2012, 19:35:55 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the TowerI"m not a big John Mayer fan, but I saw him the other year, only because Keith Carlock was playing. He was a great fit with the band, even considering a very short rehearsal period with the band (he replaced Mayer's usual drummer who had other commitments, and only had a couple of rehearsals.) The shows were great, lots of great playing by everyone in the band, and you could tell that Mayer was a big KFC fan...
Date: Wed, February 01, 2012, 19:00:24 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, HoustonI'm a big John Mayer fan. Very very talented compared to the crap out there in the last 10 years.
Date: Wed, February 01, 2012, 17:52:33 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachCabo, not to be contentious, but comparing the business practices and artistic choices of Van Halen to Steely Dan seems a bit ridiculous, to me. Should Don and Walt also be judges on American Idol because Steven fucking Tyler does it?
BTW, every time I see Steven Tyler on TV I think, "Wow, that is one ugly broad."
Date: Wed, February 01, 2012, 17:38:23 ET
Posted by: ted, HinktownBillie Rubin - Tell us something that we don't know
Date: Wed, February 01, 2012, 17:22:38 ET
Posted by: Cabo, WaboI wish Steely Dan would do something like this with all their old material:
Van Halen release their first album with original lead singer, David Lee Roth, in 28 years.
Throughout the album, the band has gone back and excavated pieces of unrecorded songs, lyrics from old notebooks and half-pursued concepts to build the 13-track collection.
�It�s material that Eddie and I generated, literally, in 1975, 1976 and 1977,� Roth said. He and the band have tried to do a sort of collaboration with their past. They can�t be the same people � too much has changed � but Roth said there�s interesting experimentation in the era-spanning synthesis of self.
The process started with Eddie Van Halen and producer John Shanks sifting through archival material, looking for the nuggets that could be mined. �Some of it was recorded in Dave�s basement when these guys were kids, and it was pretty cool just to go through that journey,� Shanks said last week by phone from New York.
Date: Wed, February 01, 2012, 15:08:17 ET
Posted by: Don Breithaupt, TorontoI can unabashedly stick up for John Mayer. He's Miles ahead of anyone in his pop generation in terms of musicianship, groove, vox, writing chops. If you're judging him based on his looks, age or out-of-context interview quotes, you're part of the problem. Dude is an insane talent.
Date: Wed, February 01, 2012, 12:15:43 ET
Posted by: Napoleon, U.KI know its not a Mayer forum but... lay off the guy. He can play his ass off and still write good pop tunes (a familiar concept?). I consider him to be a dying breed already at his age and stage of his career compared to what's out there. As long as he doesn't go all "Slowhand".
I seem to recall Carlock slotting in well when I saw them play here in Birmingham.
Date: Wed, February 01, 2012, 11:54:57 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachWell Dylanfan, you are probably right to an extent, though I doubt most of those who hate him have ever met him, or really know much of anything about him. i can see how the gossip-press crap might give one pause--but since I avoid that kind of stuff as much as possible, I'm not that aware of what is being said. I only know I have seen him mentioned as dating some other popular celebs. I couldn't give two shits about that stuff.
What little I know about him seems OK. He could have stayed a teen-pop artist and I'm betting the record label would have preferred that. Instead he has changed musical direction on more than one occasion. Also, I recall him making a statement that jazz was a superior form of music to rock and he needed to improve on his playing, etc. That resonates with me, while I'm sure it pisses others off.
Can't believe I am sticking up for Mayer--I barely know who the hell he is. My point (I suppose) was and remains, based on my limited exposure to him, he seems to be a bit better than most of the crap I see/hear on commercial outlets these days. I guess you are suggesting he is hated for his public persona, and not his music. Fair enough. I really don't know what his public persona is like. (Can it be as bad as Bono's?)
As for jogging (people still jog?) all of the suggestions are great so far. I'd add Reelin in the Years to the list--perfect opening song for a nice spring day. Kid Charlemagne is nice and upbeat, too. I always like to play Larry Carlton's album Larry Carlton in it''s entirety while on the exercise bike.
Date: Wed, February 01, 2012, 10:20:54 ET
Posted by: Michael,If you're going to jog to SD music, begin with Glamour Profession and follow that up with Almost Gothic.
Now you're jogging with style!
Date: Wed, February 01, 2012, 09:42:30 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG, PATHE DEAN, I think it might not be his music as much as it is him,
many think if you were to look up John Mayer in a thesauris there
would be a douchebag. JUST SAYIN
Date: Tues, January 31, 2012, 23:54:50 ET
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Date: Tues, January 31, 2012, 22:29:09 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachBillie Rubin asked, "Recognize anyone in this video?"
Well, I think I know the girl in the pink Dunkin Donuts hat.
And Carlock, of course.
For some reason, I kind of like John Mayer. I don't own any of his stuff, but when I hear some of his stuff (especially his jazzier stuff) I think, "He's alright. I wonder why so many people seem to hate him."
Date: Tues, January 31, 2012, 20:41:21 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin, Hat not flatRecognize anyone in this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc6N24UH7bI&feature=related
Or this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=iv3ar-i_F9I
Date: Tues, January 31, 2012, 20:18:50 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton RougeListen very carefully to what the man says at 2:15 of this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pN17DwChuQ&feature=endscreen&NR=1
LOLOL... He wants your ass...
Date: Tues, January 31, 2012, 18:04:17 ET
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Date: Tues, January 31, 2012, 16:13:00 ET
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Date: Tues, January 31, 2012, 14:21:54 ET
Posted by: carycucumber, yeahTT - I believe that with his overwrought apology for offenses that existed only in the mind of the offendee, he was keeping his edge indeed. He showed the ridiculousness of the perceived offense but, if pressed about his sarcasm, can shrug his shoulders, show his palms, and say, "Who, me?"
Date: Tues, January 31, 2012, 14:19:53 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin, ScarsdaleListen very carefully to what the man says at 2:15 of this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pN17DwChuQ&feature=endscreen&NR=1
Date: Tues, January 31, 2012, 12:40:57 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH@Jazzassin
I commend you on your apology to "Snake Mary". Don't lose your edge though...it's part of what makes this site so great.
Date: Tues, January 31, 2012, 12:40:55 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH@Jazzassin
I commend you on your apology to "Snake Mary". Don't lose your edge though...it's part of what makes this site so great.
Date: Tues, January 31, 2012, 12:40:21 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH@Jazzassin
I commend you on your apology to "Snake Mary". Don't lose your edge though...it's part of what makes this site so great.
Date: Tues, January 31, 2012, 12:40:06 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH@Jazzassin
I commend you on your apology to "Snake Mary". Don't lose your edge though...it's part of what makes this site so great.
Date: Tues, January 31, 2012, 12:39:44 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH@Jazzassin
I commend you on your apology to "Snake Mary". Don't lose your edge though...it's part of what makes this site so great.
Date: Tues, January 31, 2012, 12:39:35 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH@Jazzassin
I commend you on your apology to "Snake Mary". Don't lose your edge though...it's part of what makes this site so great.
Date: Tues, January 31, 2012, 12:39:22 ET
Posted by: Denise, HinktownFagenette: a good tune for warm-up is [Keith Carlock's] Rudder's Circle of Jerks. I like 2vN and YGT as well.
Date: Tues, January 31, 2012, 11:33:55 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, Brighton, 'U' KThanks for the suggestions...keep them coming.
Don't worry, I know about the 'u' thing but you'll have to take me as I come, British and all!
Date: Tues, January 31, 2012, 10:02:14 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, OrlandoFagenette, regarding your request for suggestions on SD or solo stuff to jog to, in my ipod I have a couple of songs that I use in my exercise regimen, including "I Got the News," "Greenflower Street," and "New Frontier." For me, they are all at a good pace and energy popping. Hope they work for you. If you want fast, try "Bodhisattva."
P.S. On this side of the pond, there is no "u" in favor and if you keep doing that someone's liable to want to fight you after recess.
Toodles (or other appropriately British send off)
Date: Tues, January 31, 2012, 07:04:24 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, BrightonChanging the subject a bit, have any of you seen this?
http://www.popspotsnyc.com/pretzel_logic/
Now, for a favour. I'm trying to compile a play list of Steely Dan and solo songs to jog to. Any suggestions would be welcome!
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 22:23:34 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, PhraxosIndeed, the Wet Side Story lyrics may be tough to divine in spots, but close inspection of the 1996 Manassas version on youtube fast reveals that Miss Carolyn was hypnotic, even then.
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 21:54:07 ET
Posted by: shark,hey Greg. do you?
enlighten me... my memory ain't what it never was.
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 20:41:03 ET
Posted by: Greg M, ssShark: hey don't I know you ;)
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 20:20:42 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, gone to bed, tooJim Taylor,
I must underscore that I never said anything about the concert you refer to (1993-09-16). I never saw or heard it.
I was just saying that the setlist you posted is identical to that of 1993-09-23, which I know is is correct, as I have heard a recording of that concert recently (yesterday).
You post was very amusing, btw! ;o)
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 20:10:42 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, @ Snake MarySnake Mary,
Official Apology
Since you don't seem to accept my apologies when I email them to you, I have no choice but to post one extra here, so that at least people know that I tried.
Damn, I was planning on going to bed, but found out I had to post this first, since I will be too busy the next few days to drop by here:
* You are right, I WAS rude, and I apologize for it.
* I have no inside info whatsoever regarding Fagen's new album, and for all I know it may be released this spring with the title "Soulful Instinct".
I apologize for doubting it and insinuating that it was naive to to think it could actually be true.
When it finally comes out, it will likely be confirmed that I have no idea what I'm talking about. Because I really don't.
* I also apologize (to everyone, and Snake Mary in particular) that I appear as a Mr.know-it-all. It was never my intention.
I guess I took for granted that everybody understands that what I think and write here about such subjects is just my uninformed opinion, and not the definitive answer to anything at all,
but I was wrong. It appears that you read me like if I thought I knew better than you, which I know that I don't.
People like me is the reason you, Snake Mary, don't come here so often, and I guess you got good company. I'm sure many people have had enough of me & my rude bullshit.
I cannot promise to stay away forever i'm afraid, but i will weigh my words better before I post them in the future, so that even the most thin-skinned Danfan won't feel insulted by them.
The only thing I can say to my defence is that when all is said and done, I, the unintentional fool, have undoubtedly given most of you people a good laugh (behind my back of course,
since no one before you except tommytomato have had the balls to talk back & tell it to me straight what kind of fool I am. And that's a long time ago now.).
However, a good laugh once in a while can hardly make up for all the unbelievable irritation I've caused you all through the years, of course.
*Your last email convinced me that it must be like this, since your perception of me are apparently supported by minimum one more person, probably many more. I apologize for being a bozo.
Peace & love,
-Jazzassin
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 19:55:17 ET
Posted by: shark, blacked outthat's Walter doing the guitar solo on Wet Side.
here's the proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyREB7MmvZY
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 19:48:47 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains NY<<... and BTW, doesn't Alan own a chain of Steamer Heavens?>>
He sure does! Wonder the relationship between Alan and Mickey. Brothers?
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 19:46:43 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton Rouge... and BTW, doesn't Alan own a chain of Steamer Heavens?
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 19:37:46 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton RougeYikes. Well I have emerged from the last 48 hours where I 1) almost got banned from the BB and; 2) discovered that the well worn and comfy memories that I have cherished for so long of my first Steely Dan concert are almost entirely bogus. Having reviewed the learned posts of folks who are without a doubt more knowledgeable and worldly about SD matters than I am, I have come to he conclusion that it wasn't actually me at the Nashville Starwood Amphitheater on September 16, 1993, but an odious imposter.
In fact, my inability to remember what actually happened, and my invention of a set list which was clearly impossible,(although I will go to my grave beliving that I actually heard "Aja" that evening)is almost certainly the result of:
"Capgras syndrome, the mental disorder in which the person is certain that his or her significant other - or parent or sibling or aunt, even a pet or an inanimate object - has been replaced by an impersonator, a doppelganger. A victim of this rare disease finds himself moving through a world of impostors, not unlike the Kevin McCarthy character in the classic horror film, " Invasion of the Body Snatchers" . He may even believe that he, himself, is bogus, an elaborate selfoid, a cunning impersonator with inscrutable motives." (NOTES ON CRAP By Sascha Frere-Jacque 8/20/07)
You can read all about it on Donald's website. Meanwhile, I must go figure out what I did with Jim...
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 19:37:43 ET
Posted by: Snake Mary, Gone To BedHi there, the album's not even been mixed yet or is being mixed as we speak so your friend most certainly didn't buy the new Fagen Album. "Kwack Zany" is a joke! lol! I know that for sure, I doubt Fagen would write a song entitled '3rd Arrangement', do you? Anyway, I like to be surprised by Fagen's wonderful titles so when I saw 'Soulful Instinct' I thought "oh my god, what a god awful title, I will email Radio Dupree as if it came from them there's no point me being on this blog asking you guys, go straight to the source. Thanks for the Radio Dupree info by the way, I'll email them now!
Best,
Snake Mary
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 19:29:34 ET
Posted by: Greg M, the wet sideAnother thing. Let's not forget the rock-solid performance of Ricky Lawson on Wet Side, as well as Wayne Krantz, whose solo KILLS.
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 19:26:22 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White PlainsTrace,
Love the analysis. Great imagery. Spot on, IMO.
These threads about Wet Side Story have me singing the song the last couple of days.
My take is that Steamer Heaven is situated in a water-front town in the northeast. Think: Mystic, East Hampton. Atlantic Highlands.
Business is slow because of crap economic times, but things turnaround etc. etc. Happy endings are nice!
What a song. Greater than Cousin Dupree by miles.
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 18:57:34 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!Snake Mary,
Just a clarification on my post regarding the fake Fagen news.
A friend of mine said he downloaded the new Fagen and claimed it sucked. I came home and furiously searched the web and came up with nada. The one thing I can state with relative certainty is, the new Fagen has not been released. I asked the community here what the hell he might have downloaded and mistaken for the new Fagen release.
A week or so later, I read about the fake/joke/prank information regarding the album on Radio Dupree--a fine Dan related site. Radio Dupree mentioned another site claimed the album was named Soulful Instinct or Soul Instinct (or something like that)--and that it was a hoax. The part of my post you quote is actually from Radio Dupree.
Now, I am as close to certain as I can be that my friend doesn't have the new Fagen. As for what it is to be named, who knows? But I have seen ZERO credible evidence that it will be called Soul (or Soulful) Instinct. I trust Radio Dupree (and our man PGE) enough to believe his post that it was an Internet prank.
Now please correct me if I am mistaken, Snake Mary, but are you saying you will only believe it was a joke if you see "A link to the said 'JOKE' CD mockup with made up song titles & cover"? Fair enough. But what would it take to convince you that it is, in fact, the actual title of the new one?
As far as I am concerned, it is likely bullshit until someone presents credible evidence that it is not.
Also, take note that in the most recent link the title "Kwack Zany" is said to be a WORKING TITLE. Nowhere is it claimed it is the actual title. The track titles are described as "suggested" and "draft titles". True or not, this info is not being represented as what we will see when the work is released.
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 18:45:26 ET
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Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 17:47:08 ET
Posted by: trace,
wetside story has a double meaning. mick and jeanine own steamer heaven. jeanine is behind the counter serving food.
steamer heaven is empty (EXCEPT for a couple of kids "teenagers" (donald does not sing except, but it is implied). The teens are checking out the lovely jeanine. Mick is watching outside through the window then comes in.
steamer heaven is empty
couple of kids aiming high on the counter
for the lovely jeanine
as soon as he walks through the door she smiles.
but the smile is half assed. they are going through marital problems,as well as financial (the restaurant)
mick goes for the (bomb)- tries reconciling with wife (first meaning)
blows restaurant up (flames) literally (second meaning).
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 14:24:44 ET
Posted by: Snake Mary, Gone To BedThanks Updraught but this is beyond a doubt a joke, I saw this quite a while ago on the 'an overdose of fingal cocoa' blogspot. I must say 'Kwack Zany' is a better title than what we have at the moment & I really mean that! Any other ideas guys?
Best,
Snake Mary
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 14:05:36 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, rarely pissed off, actually.Snake Mary,
Your question didn't piss me off. I'm the one who usually pisses people off here! ;o) Welcome to the club.
I'm sorry if it came out that way.
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 13:59:29 ET
Posted by: Updraught, Philly AreaRe: new Fagan Album
This had been posted on the bluebook earlier:
http://neopixeos.weebly.com/new-steely-dan-cd.html
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 13:42:01 ET
Posted by: Snake Mary, Gone To BedHi ya'll,
This is gonna be off topix so sorry in advance for that. 'Soulful Instinct' not 'Soul Instinct' 'Jazzassin'. True or a humorous little Fagen jibe? This post from 'The Dean' hasn't convinced me, as follows;
"Oh. And the title of Donald Fagens new album; Soul Instinct, came from a fan page done as a joke. Complete with song titles and a cover. Just a joke, but it still was taken as the truth and is now quoted on among other sites Wikipedia!"
My friend--acquaintance, really (who claims to have downloaded the new Fagen album) may have been snared by this joke. Perhaps someone put the label on some random downloads. I still have yet to catch up with him and check it out.
A link to the said 'JOKE' CD mockup with made up song titles & cover would convince me. Anyone have this, would be greatly appreciated.
If me asking this question pisses you off in some way such as it did with 'Jazzassin' I'm quite simply looking for a definitive answer. My thinking is it's just yet another internet mistake, I doubt the title has even been 100% decided, I doubt the album has even got to the mixdown stage yet knowing Fagen's 'no stones unturned' way of creating. So, I'd love to know if any of you guys have any more information. Thank you!
Best,
Snake Mary
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 13:31:15 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, shy, pale, neurotic, unexperienced , etc.wss,
On Jan. 24 shark wrote:
"here's my brief synopsis: the protagonist, Mick/Mickey is hungry and needs a break from his computer screen. He "jumps to the wetside" and heads to Steamer Heaven. He is served by the lovely Jeanine and the two share an otherworldly "animal" experience which Mick can't seem to remember when he comes to."
I thought that was a clever interpretation.
I imagine Mickey is a true computer geek who has so little experience with life outside the cubicle, human relations, love, sex (and drugs for that matter), that he gets absolutely overwhelmed by Janines physical presence and the assumed sexual (animal) experience that they have together. He actually collapses on the street.
I thought his "trip" was of that nature more than drug related.
Sensitive young man, Mickey... ;)
I got the impression that this was the basis for the analysis of several commenters here besides myself, but I could of course be totally wrong. If I misunderstood completely, I'll have to re-think this over, of course.
Please educate me... There's so much slang going on here, and english is still not my native language.
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 13:21:16 ET
Posted by: SD6string, TorontoIn light of recent posts regarding SD cover albums, I would like to respectfully submit a recent effort of mine - a collection of Steely Dan songs performed on solo guitar. Something a little different, but true to the originals.
Link for song previews & reviews/comments by Don Breithaupt (I've played guitar on many Monkey House gigs), Rik Emmett & Carl Verheyen:
http://www.bobmcalpine.ca/Recordings.php
Link for live performance videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksEnvVRJMI
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 12:24:12 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVRHave we already discussed this?
http://exploremusic.com/show/steely-dans-classic-album-aja-presented-by-canadian-band-the-darcys/
Not really to my taste, but interesting nonetheless.
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 12:23:07 ET
Posted by: wss,"If we stick to the theory that the "wet side" means real, biological life as opposed to the dry virtual world of computing, drug effects has little to do with it."
I don't understand what you mean or why you mention "dry virtual world". The whole song seems to be about the real-world physical and mental effects of taking some sort of drug.
In any case, the phrasing of the singing suggests something very different to me than what it suggests to you. I don't mind, just tried to explain why one makes more sense to me than the other.
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 11:06:01 ET
Posted by: hoops, on the quick, friendly reminder, 'nuff saidJust a reminder to all of what is on the page where you make a post to this forum. Thanks!
"Historically, those who run the site, namely the person known here as "hoops," has been legally held responsible for content. As such we have policy of not offering or otherwise explaining how to listen to unreleased, unauthorized, bootleg, or otherwise illicit recordings. To be sure, there's a lot of grey areas, but the resources do not exist to verify every source on a case by case basis. Sadly, we must resort to a "black and white" policy. An exception is made for items appearing on YouTube items. This site is not responsible for YouTube content. but links can be left here to to any and all YouTube clips since they accept responsibility for the content of their links and have a method of addressing such complaints. THAT SAID... it IS OK to discuss the existence and nature of unreleased and/or unauthorized recordings, but it is completely unacceptable to tell how to get or offer them, to request them or otherwise directly, tell how and where to hear them, or indirectly post about distribution possibilities. Such posts will be removed immediately and the computer from which the post was made may be blocked from the site for a limited time or indefinitely. This policy is final. If you do not like it, please participate in a different fan forum. What is discussed via private email, from poster to poster, outside the context of this web site and server is not the business of those who run the Bluebook."
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 09:04:36 ET
Posted by: El Sup, Louisville, KYJim Taylor:
I've heard the Nashville show. Setlist is as listed. I'm pretty sure they didn't start playing Aja in full until 1994, but I might be mistaken about that.
El Sup
Date: Mon, January 30, 2012, 06:35:47 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, wssJim Taylor,
I've not seen your Nashville gig, but from from one week later (1993-09-23) in Albany, the set list that you provide here is identical to that one. They sure played Fall of '92 and Home At Last.
The setlist that you found could be mislabelled regarding the date, or they actually did the same set on the 16th.
wss,
You wrote:
"Where it's colder, it's louder, it's screaming with life" isn't very smooth writing, and doesn't get across the idea of the possible variety of drug effects.
If we stick to the theory that the "wet side" means real, biological life as opposed to the dry virtual world of computing, drug effects has little to do with it.
Whether or not that is smooth writing can of course be discussed, but to me it is, and remember that D&W has stated that for them, the lyrics are always subsequent to the music, meaning that the words have to be very "singable", and that they need to have the right phonetic qualities and fit in perfect with the dynamics of the groove - even if it makes the lyrics appear a bit obscure and hard to analyze...
Date: Sun, January 29, 2012, 22:38:52 ET
Posted by: Just sayin', USName similarities aside, doesn't he remind you of Donald watching him talk?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sslHzXdBeE
Date: Sun, January 29, 2012, 22:20:09 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton RougeFirst: Amazing work on the lyrics to WSS. I guess now that I really am going to have to work it up. (How much does a horn section cost Don?) It really did take on a life of its own. Thanks!
Second: I guess the reference to Steamer Heaven is futher proof that WSS was caniiblaized for 2VN. (See What a Shame About Me).
Thirdly:
I found a site with what purported to be the set list for Starwood Ampitheater in Nashville, September 16, 1993.:
Band name: Steely Dan
Month name: September
Day: 16th
Year: 1993
Venue: The Starwood
City: Nashville
State/province: TN.
Country: USA
Event/festival name:
Setlist:
Set One:
1- Royal Scam>Bad Sneakers>Aja
2- Green Earrings
3- Bodhisattva
4- I.G.Y.
5- Josie
6- Hey Nineteen
7- Book of Liars
8- Chain Lightning
9- Band intros
10- Green Flower Street
11- Home at Last
12- Black Firday
Set Two:
1- Tuzz's Shadow
2- Deacon Blues
3- Tomorrows Girl
4- Babylon Sisters
5- Reelin' in the Years
6- Fall of '92
7- Peg
8- Third World Man
9- Countermoon
10- Teahouse on the Tracks
11- My Old School
It just can't be correct. I did not write it down, but I distinctly remember that they DID NOT play "Hey Nineteen," "Fall of '92" or "Home at Last." They also DID play "Aja" in it's entirety as well as in the intro. It was the last tune of the regular set with MOS as the encore. There are other things wrong as well, but I just can't remeber well enough to be absolutely sure about any more errors. (ex. don't remeber so much "Kamakiriad," but it could be I was just not familiar with it and it didn't stick with me). So, somebody help me out. My precious memories of that night are apparently faulty!
:-(. <sigh>
Date: Sun, January 29, 2012, 18:56:51 ET
Posted by: wss,Also, maybe it's
"couple of kids, Ing Mei high on the counter
and the lovely Jeanine"
Sounds like what he's singing, and wraps up the "couple of kids" nicely.
Date: Sun, January 29, 2012, 18:47:12 ET
Posted by: wss,Looking at his mouth, and in context of the action "intense tears" looks right and makes more sense than the other suggestions. Same with "off the roof of the shop".
"Spawn" also makes more sense that "spun", and in the evolutionary context of the lyric going from fish to animal makes sense too. Also, Donald is clearly not making an "uh" mouth there.
"Where it's colder, it's louder, it's screaming with life" isn't very smooth writing, and doesn't get across the idea of the possible variety of drug effects, and looking at Donald's and the backup singer's mouths, they look to be breaking after each word before singing "where it's" or "or it's".
Anyway, great work comrades. Don't think we can get much further without official confirmation.
Date: Sun, January 29, 2012, 18:09:39 ET
Posted by: Napoleon, since we're all used to waiting...D'Angelo
Date: Sun, January 29, 2012, 18:04:04 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, where it's colder, it's louder, it's screaming with lifeshark,
You said what I forgot to say about Walter's solo on WSS. Love it.
Date: Sun, January 29, 2012, 16:56:53 ET
Posted by: shark, roof of the shopthink we're getting closer to the correct lyrics on Wet Side. I think we've got the first and the third verse pretty much nailed. the second verse is definitely the hardest to decipher.
"Count Mickey" works for me, considering the William Gibson connection.
I like "Bit" or possibly "Biz wrangler"... there's a website called SmallBizWrangler.com, for what it's worth.
It's most certainly "the lovely Jeanine" as opposed to "the love that you need"
I don't hear "intense tears" before the flames arching but it sounds like "spun" on the edge of history rather than spawn or swung.
i say it's a "hit of downtime" in the 3rd verse.
as for the chorus, this is my Story and i'm stickin to it:
Everyone knows that it's scary out there
When you jump to the wet side
Where it's colder, it's louder, it's screaming with life
and it's way complex
Hacking through all the harsh effects
so what is Steamer Heaven anyway? I know it's a fictional eatery created by D&W but what exactly is their specialty?
here's what wiki has to say:
Steamer (appliance), an appliance that aids in steaming food
Steamer (milk), a flavored milk drink
Steamer (sandwich), another name for a sloppy joe
A type of clam or in reference to steamed clams
there's also the type of steamer that hails from Cleveland, but i think we can rule that out...
I've got another version of Wet Side from earlier in the tour, but the sound quality's not as good and it's on a VHS tape so I can't give it a listen right now.
any other versions from the '96 tour? I'd love to know if they ever did a studio recording.
someone suggested asking the Leonharts, which would be great. Carolyn in particular might have a lyric sheet for the song.
I agree that it's quite superior to Cousin Dupree, and I don't find the two songs all that similar.
Walter's guitar solo on the Manassas version is perfection. what a night!
Date: Sun, January 29, 2012, 15:30:28 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachDon.
Great comic. I liked to that last week (maybe that's where Jazzy saw it), but it seems my link is no longer active. So thanks for supplying what looks to be a "real" link, and not some cached thing I found. I want to email it to a friend and couldn't find it.
Love the Wet Side discussion. I think I will have time to give it a go later today. If I find anything worth contributing (doubtful, I know) I will post it later.
-b
Date: Sun, January 29, 2012, 14:15:56 ET
Posted by: Bev Wrangler Jeans,RE Wetside: No matter what the differences are lyrically and musically, it's a sooooo much better fucking song than Cousin Toupee.
Date: Sun, January 29, 2012, 03:51:10 ET
Posted by: �,
It could be
"Sprackle and angel food healing"
Sprackle I think is a candy with white chocolate and peanuts
Date: Sun, January 29, 2012, 03:09:54 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Used a bit of lip reading:
Count Mickey gets hungry
Beth Wrangler's gotta take a break sometime
Gotta feed the machine
Steamer Heaven is empty
A couple of kids and we high on the counter
The love that you need
Soon as he walks in the door, she's smilin'
Covers his eyes with his hands
Cause everyone knows that it's scary out there
When you jump to the wetside
Where it's cold and it's live and it's screaming with life
And it's way complex
And it drew all the harsh effects
Mick goes for the bombe
and it's a sparkling(?) and angel food healing
The Gunk on the top
Gives em back an award(?)
Beth's(?) tears and you can feel the flames arcing
Over the Shock
The moment they Spun on the edge of history
Fell into animal times
[Chorus]
[Solo]
Blacked out on the tarmac
It was alive with the sweet sounds of summer
Oh the Steamer's all right
Mick tries to remember
Slippin' kinda cool, but it's already fading
Back to straight black and white
Maybe I needed a bit of downtime
Covers his eyes with his hands
[Chorus]
Date: Sat, January 28, 2012, 23:04:55 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, Not Snowbound this yearGreat Jon Herington show Friday night at Infinity Hall. Crowd was a little sparse but nice. Great to see him in a small intimate venue.
Jon and his band were great and I recommend anyone who is a Steely Dan fan go and see them if you can. He played mostly his own tunes and some covers of other artists. The songs from his new unreleased album sound more �fun� than the first two albums.
After the second song he told a little Steely Dan anticdote. He said that the band is so big when they tour that they need two buses. D&W fly in a private Lear jet. He travels in the bus with the rhythm section called the Soul Bus. The horn section and one vocalist (I�m guessing Caroline) travels in the other. They call that the Horn Bus but sometimes with a �P� and sometimes the Scrabble Bus. But on the Soul Bus they play and listen to good music.
He played two SD songs near the end of the show. Chain Lightning and Pearl of the Quarter � both were outstanding! The guitar solos were really something.
Cool to talk to after the show.
Date: Sat, January 28, 2012, 20:04:12 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, chucklingDon,
I've seen that one before. It's hilarious and exquisitely cruel. Love it. Thanks for the link!
Date: Sat, January 28, 2012, 18:50:53 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, TorontoOh my GOD, you guys need to see this:
http://achewood.com/index.php?date=06112004
Date: Sat, January 28, 2012, 13:40:27 ET
Posted by: PGE, SwedenLate in 2011 I tried to order a couple of copies of the 2006 "Fire In The Hole"-album of Steely Dan covers by Swedish duo Sara Isaksson & Rebecka T�rnqvist only to get a "sold out" response. And accepting that it may be out of print.
Today I discovered that the record is about to get a belated release in the US thanks to San Francisco based Zip Records.
http://ziprecords.com/new-releases/fire-in-the-hole/
And so the tables turn...
(as in us Swedes having to buy it as an import...)
/PGE
Date: Sat, January 28, 2012, 11:47:19 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, PhraxosThe first listen was, admittedly, a little jarring in spots.
The second listen let me hear some things that I'd overlooked.
By the third listen, I was appreciating the approach.
And so, while I won't be using The Darcys' Aja as a way to introduce anyone to the wonders of Steely Dan, I will rank it among my favorite covers, somewhere below Joe Jackson's King of the World and the fine work by the Scandanavian princesses Sara Isaksson & Rebecka T�rnqvist and equal to or above the covers on Me, Myself & Irene.
So sue me.
Date: Sat, January 28, 2012, 03:58:45 ET
Posted by: Engel, Melbourne, AustraliaBeen a while since I've been here, but thought I'd just pass on a link to my blog, mainly about music, but this is a 'travel piece' of sorts about a trip me and my hombres took to LA to see the Dan. From Melbourne to LA for four nights of Dan and back to Melbourne again � quite a trip! Cheers: http://engelschmidl.wordpress.com/2012/01/28/walter-donald-kitten-and-me-part-1/
Date: Fri, January 27, 2012, 22:10:54 ET
Posted by: wetside,Actually, "Count" makes a lot of sense:
In some of William Gibson's books, a hacker is named Count Zero. Plus the connection to Count Basie...
So it could be Count Mickey, and Biz Wrangler
Date: Fri, January 27, 2012, 21:58:42 ET
Posted by: moray eel, darWasn't a huge fan of the Darcys' studio take on Aja, but Home at Last live is enjoyable...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MnJBGKU-_c&feature=related
m.e.
Date: Fri, January 27, 2012, 21:16:33 ET
Posted by: Snake Mary, Gone To BedJazzassin, thanks for the heads up man. I'm VERY relieved, really! Looking forward to telling my mates down the pub tomorrow night, we were actually getting really concerned that we'd have to live with this stinker of a title!
Snake Mary x
Date: Fri, January 27, 2012, 20:57:21 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, sharing is caringSnake Mary,
I apologise ...
I know SD is your passion. It's mine, too.
.
As far as I know, Donald Fagen had nothing to do with that joke. It was just made up by another fan.
The reason I don't use my real name on the internet if I can avoid it, is just for general internet security reasons, and has nothing to do with the Bluebook as such. But I always use the same nick here, and "my nick's email", which I always provide, is real.
Date: Fri, January 27, 2012, 20:16:28 ET
Posted by: Snake Mary, Gone To BedI don't come on the forum often so no I haven't heard of the title being a joke, hence asking if anyone knew about it. Is there a punchline as to why Fagen used that specific title or is it just because it's incredibly cheesy & sounds like an 80's 'Kool & The Gang' album? Please let me know!
Snake Mary x
Date: Fri, January 27, 2012, 19:48:51 ET
Posted by: jackson,the first line of wetside i think might be
cowboy mickey gets hungry
big wranglers got a take break sometime.
however when you here donald it really sounds like he says
count mickey, but that doesent make sense. so i will throw in cowboy.
Date: Fri, January 27, 2012, 19:44:26 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, no waySnake Mary,
Are you serious, or is it just that you didn't bother to scroll down a bit read the comments about the humorous hoax (Soul Instinct) posted here quite recently?
Date: Fri, January 27, 2012, 18:46:48 ET
Posted by: Wetside lyrics,Not a lot to add, but after watching the video of Fagen and backup singer's lips, a few things seem apparent.
"Mick" seems pretty good. Hadn't considered that before. Male makes sense.
"Lovely Jeanine" is not bad, and makes the lyric story flow
"Where it's cold, or it's light, or it's screaming with life.
Where it's way complex, (3 syllables), or the harsh effects/events"
"intense tears and you can feel the flames arcing" is pretty clear
"spawn on the edge of history" also is pretty clear, and makes sense for these two lines
But Donald is clearly muffing words here and there, and they probably hadn't finished refining the lyrics yet.
Maybe someone knows the email address for Michael or Carolyn Leonhart and can ask more directly...
Date: Fri, January 27, 2012, 18:05:21 ET
Posted by: Snake Mary, Gone To BedHey guys,
been reading some rather disturbing bits & bobs about Fagen's new solo project being called 'Soulful Instinct'! I don't know about ya'll but that sounds like a awful title for a Fagen album.
The Nightfly
Kamakiriad
Morph The Cat
Soulful Instinct?
Not in the same league is it, sounds like a Michael McDonald album & let's face it, he does Christmas albums! No disrespect to McDonald by the way, I'm a huge admirer.
Is this just a classic example of the internet being wrong a great deal or is there some truth in this? Be really interested to know!
Great to finally see what the 'Wet-side Story' lyrics are, been 16 years of listening to that cut & have had no way of working out some of Fagen's mumblings. Defo' left off 2VN due to it's major similarities to Cousin Dupree. I reckon it was either or when they were mastering the album.
Snake Mary x
Date: Fri, January 27, 2012, 13:43:32 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, I'm working on gospel time this days...Peg,
like you said, it's not exactly gospel... ;o)
But I see your point about checking the whole thing to get an overall impression of the accuracy. Download away if you haven't already got the thing folks, but don't expect any revelations.
Date: Fri, January 27, 2012, 13:27:49 ET
Posted by: Peggy, Out to lunchJazzy, I thought about posting just the lyric, but I thought it might be best if people just go grab the full source and then they can look around at other songs and get an idea for themselves as to the general overall accuracy of the thing. It's not a big download. No big deal either way, I guess. In retrospect I guess it wouldn't have hurt to post the lyric AND the source link, so thanks for doing the extra copy/paste legwork. I leave it up to you and others to decide whatever you think sounds right.
Date: Fri, January 27, 2012, 11:36:47 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, still wet...or read the interpretation from the .chm file here:
Stop making us hungry
Beth wrangler's gotta take a break sometime
Gotta feed the machine
Steamer Heaven is empty
A couple of kids sitting high on the counter
The love that you need
Soon as he walks in the door, she's smiling
Covers his eyes with his hands
Cause everyone knows that it's scary out there
When you jump to the wetside
Where it's cold and it's light and it's screaming with light
And it's way complex
And it drew all the harsh effects
Meg goes for the bomb
Couple of rocks with an angel food healing
The junk on the top
gives em back an award
A few backed tears and you can feel the flame talking
No better shop
The moment they stand on the edge of history
Fell into animal times
[Chorus]
[Solo]
Blacked out on the tarmac
It was alive with the sweet sounds of summer
All the steamer's are right
Meg tries to remember
Sleepin' kinda cool, but it's already fading
Back to straight black and white
Maybe in need of a ride downtown
Covers his eyes with his hands
[Chorus]
Judge for yourselves, but to me all of the three aforementioned versions makes more sense.
Then again, english is not my native language.
Date: Fri, January 27, 2012, 11:24:17 ET
Posted by: Peggy, Central help call centerI remembered I have a .chm SD lyric help module and when I checked it I found it does indeed include the Wetside Story lyric. It's certainly NOT gospel as I've found minor mistakes on some of the known songs from the regular albums. But on the other hand maybe it might be helpful as another base for comparison.
Next problem was to figure out where I grabbed it from. Turns out it came from the Broberg site. Go to...
[*] http://www.broberg.pp.se/sd_index.htm
...and look for...
Download Alfred Neuman's "Steely Dan Lyric Help File"
Steely help file 3.1 163kb zip
...where "Steely help file 3.1" is the clickable link for the zip file. Should be fairly obvious what to do from there, I think. To be absolutely sure it's still there and still safe, I just re-downloaded it myself and tried it again fresh, so I've confirmed it's fine.
Once you open the "steely dan.chm" module just click...
+ Late Stuff
+ Steely Dan
+ Wetside Story
__________
[*] Note that I ignored anything telling me about a script running... I remember it's just a simple thing asking you to input your name, but otherwise the page just says "Hi there, null. Welcome to yadda yadda yadda..." No biggie.
Date: Fri, January 27, 2012, 08:46:15 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, at workLooking forward to seeing Jon Herington tonight at Infinity hall and then Larry Carlton there on Feb 26. Should be good times. I put The darcys on my ipod last night to play on the way to work this morning. Oye. What a mind blower first thing in the morning.
Date: Fri, January 27, 2012, 08:20:13 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, on the wet sideRe: WSS lyrics
I too have been trying to decipher it, listening and observing Donalds mouth on the video from Manassass in '96 multiple times, I've been EQ'ing the audio to try to get more focus on his voice, listening while simultaneously reading the interpretations on feverdreams and the two recent versions here on the blue (thanks to shark de ville & anonymous poster), but.... so far nothing to add to what others have already come up with.
I'm pretty sure the main character is Mickey/Mick, but it sounds and looks to me like Don is starting the lyrics with a one-syllable word (starting wih a "K"??) right before "Mickey". It does actually sound like Kyle to me (like moray eel suggests), but it's probably not that either.
I assume that Don don't introduce a "Meg" in the second (& third) verse (wich wouldn't make much sense), but still sings about Mick.
I think "Bit Wrangler" sounds like a typical D&W home made slang word for a geek/computer programmer.
And when it comes to the lovely Janine... Well, it could of course be "the love they've been needing", but Janine makes more sense in the context, and if we assume that WSS was kind of an early version of a musical idea that finally became "Cousin Dupree", they probably moved her from behind the counter at Steamer Heaven and into Dupree's Aunt Faye's house. Which eventually increases the possibility that WSS will never be recorded or even played again. Cousin Dupree has replaced it, that's my two cents.
What Janine actually gave Mick back is really hard to tell.
Whether Mick blacked out or just napped out on the tarmac doesen't make much difference to the meaning of the lyrics, but I'm really not capable of hearing the exact word being sung.
And speaking of the video... Carolyn and Michelle is kinda distracting when you try to focus on the lyrics. ;o)
The Darcys' Aja was good fun, and I will keep it in my collection of Dangential oddities, probably listen to it again some times in the future as well, but I'm afraid it will never be much more than an oddity to me.
I think Melvin was spot on when he explained why it took a couple of years before they toured after the Grammy winnings. Quote:
"The Grammy wins mandated a follow up album, not a tour. They were back in the studio in 2001".
Easy as that.
fagenism, I'm sure you'll have a fantastic spring in Stockholm with those PM tracks for a soundtrack! Btw, could you send me a private email, please?
Cerpin Taxt,
Those AT headphones are amazing. I've tried a pair once, and they really kick ass. That said, listening through headphones for more than 15 minutes always gives me "claustraudiophobia", so I'll always prefer a pair of good conventional speakers over any pair of headphones. However, if circumstances dictates the use of headphones, you don't get them much better unless you're spend a real shitload. A good choice!
Date: Wed, January 25, 2012, 23:37:39 ET
Posted by: Cerpin Taxt, Boston.Donald doesn't look like Donald on the cover of The Nightfly. You know?
In other news, I just bought a pair of Audio-Technica ATH-M30's and Steely Dan has never sounded so good.
I know I'm far behind lots of audiophiles, perhaps some on the Blue, but I'm getting there!
Date: Wed, January 25, 2012, 20:38:14 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton RougeDon: It may be that they didn't want to have 2 songs featuring Jeanine...;-)
Date: Wed, January 25, 2012, 20:08:57 ET
Posted by: JIm Taylor, Baton RougeThanks a bundle, Shark. Your rendition of the WSS lyrics is awesome. Donald has a habit of mouthing his way through when he drops a lyric until he can pick it up. I think that's what happens at the beginning of verse 2 in the Manassas version. As many years (more than I care to count) as I have spent listening to records copying down lyrics, I never got very good at it. It's a gift. Thanks again, Shark.
Don: Are you aware if they made a demo of WSS in that period? You would think that they at lest demod it because it seems like they demod everything.
Date: Wed, January 25, 2012, 20:08:53 ET
Posted by: JIm Taylor, Baton RougeThanks a bundle, Shark. Your rendition of the WSS lyrics is awesome. Donald has a habit of mouthing his way through when he drops a lyric until he can pick it up. I think that's what happens at the beginning of verse 2 in the Manassas version. As many years (more than I care to count) as I have spent listening to records copying down lyrics, I never got very good at it. It's a gift. Thanks again, Shark.
Don: Are you aware if they made a demo of WSS in that period? You would think that they at lest demod it because it seems like they demod everything.
Date: Wed, January 25, 2012, 18:36:10 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!Had the opportunity to quickly listen to The Darcys' Aja. (Thanks for the link.)
Based on the quick listen, the nicest thing I can say is, "It's not for me." Perhaps I will try to give it a bit of time to grow on me (certainly the base material is worth a bit of effort). But I have to admit I heard little that would suggest it is the sort of thing I will end up liking.
Date: Wed, January 25, 2012, 12:46:30 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, TorontoI always figured "Wet Side Story" (which I LOVE) didn't make 2VN because the groove is so similar to "Cousin Dupree."
Date: Wed, January 25, 2012, 10:46:45 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, BrightonMy take on The Darcys take on Aja: it was never intended to be a cover and I'm glad it isn't. Nobody can do it. However, as an interpretation its a good one and wraps the lyrics in a very different musical blanket. It doesn't give me the musical high that SDs original does but you can hear the Darcys love for the songs coming through and it's certainly one too listen to again if I'm in a dark mood!
Date: Wed, January 25, 2012, 09:26:25 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -After the Gaucho outtakes and the (alleged) cover of Joni Mitchell's Carey, Wet Side Story is definitely one of the cuts I am most desperate to get a proper recording of. I have a feeling it never made it onto Two Against Nature because it did not fit well with the slick theme of the album. Also its vibe is similar to that of a certain incest-prone cousin...
Jazzassin:
Cuts like Follow Me and Cathedral In A Suitcase form the soundtrack of my life this spring.
Date: Wed, January 25, 2012, 04:11:33 ET
Posted by: OK, OKCheck out this live version of Earl Klugh playing the song Dr. Macumba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_SoczeFBcc
Fagen can be seen playing the keyboards twice; at 0:55 seconds and again at 4:50
Date: Tues, January 24, 2012, 23:26:09 ET
Posted by: moray eel, kyle"Kyle Pickett gets hungry..."
m.e.
Date: Tues, January 24, 2012, 22:07:38 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, PhraxosListening to The Darcys play Aja. Thanks for the heads up.
It's how Aja would be played by the Mad Max band in the Thunderdome. They should have also taken a crack at King of the World.
Date: Tues, January 24, 2012, 21:52:51 ET
Posted by: Hutch,Vic, Melvin, et.al. - I'm sure you must be right. Sorry Fagenette. A real disappointment.
Date: Tues, January 24, 2012, 21:50:20 ET
Posted by: My, TakeExcept for having the same song titles, same sequence, and same lyrics (as far as I listened) as Aja, it's really got nothing in common with it.
Date: Tues, January 24, 2012, 21:42:15 ET
Posted by: shark, hacking throughunfortunately Donald mumbles half a line or two on the Manassas version and it's the best version we've got. Or is it??? This is one of those tunes I wish they had recorded properly (and provided lyrics for!)
here's my brief synopsis: the protagonist, Mick/Mickey is hungry and needs a break from his computer screen. He "jumps to the wetside" and heads to Steamer Heaven. He is served by the lovely Jeanine and the two share an otherworldly "animal" experience which Mick can't seem to remember when he comes to.
WET SIDE STORY
[?] Mickey gets hungry
[bit?] wrangler's got to take a break sometime
Got to feed the machine
Steamer Heaven is empty
Couple of kids in behind the counter
and the lovely Jeanine
Soon as he walks in the door she's smilin'
Covers his eyes with his hands
CHORUS:
'Cause everyone knows that it's scary out there when you jump to the wet side
Where it's colder, it's louder, it's screaming with life
And it's way complex, hacking through all the harsh effects
Mick goes for the bomb
[? ? ?] with an angel food healing, and the gunk on the top
She gives him back a free quarter (?)
[? ? ?] and you could feel the flames arching on the roof of the shop
For a moment they spun on the edge of history
Fell into animal time
CHORUS
Blacked out on the tarmac
It was alive with the sweet sounds of summer
Oh, the steamer's alright
Mick tries to remember something kind of cool,
but it's already faded back to straight black and white
Maybe I needed a hit of downtime
Covers his eyes with his hands, 'cause
CHORUS
the feverdreams discussion of the song is on this page: http://feverdreams.whatsmykarma.com/etc.htm
Date: Tues, January 24, 2012, 21:24:40 ET
Posted by: Gary, in AtlantaAJA - from Toronto art-rock quartet The Darcys - is their version of the entire Steely Dan AJA album and is available for FREE starting today, January 24.
You can download it in it's entirety at: www.thedarcys.ca/download-email-aja.php
Enjoy!
Date: Tues, January 24, 2012, 20:21:59 ET
Posted by: wetside lyrics,Wetside Story lyrics were discussed several years ago, but never solved completely. Maybe another go will help? Maybe some lyrics don't make sense because they weren't finished yet.
[?] is hungry
Death Wrangler got to take a break sometime
Got to feed the machine
Steamer Heaven is empty
Couple of kids, [aiming high] on the counter
for the love they've been [needing]
Soon as he walks in the door she's smiling
Covers his eyes with his hands, cuz
CHORUS
Everyone knows that it's scary out there when you jump to the wetside
Where it's cold or it's light, or it's screaming with life
And it's way complex, halfway through, all the harsh effects
Meg goes for the bomb
Thimble of wax, with an angel food [healing], the gunk on the top
Gives him back at three quarters
Intense tears and you can feel the flames arcing on the roof of the shop
A moment they spawn on the edge of history
Fell into animal times, cuz
CHORUS
Napped out on the tarmac
It was alive with the sweet sounds of summer
Oh, the steamer's alright
Meg tries to remember, [sleeping] kind of cool, but it's already fading, back to straight black and white
Maybe I needed a bit of downtime
Covers his eyes with his hands, cuz�
CHORUS
Date: Tues, January 24, 2012, 16:26:10 ET
Posted by: Melvin, QThe Grammy wins mandated a follow up album, not a tour. They were back in the studio in 2001.
Date: Tues, January 24, 2012, 15:52:55 ET
Posted by: vic,Hutch - You're joking, right. If they didn't tour right after all of those Grammy wins and the induction into the R&R Hall of Fame, what makes you think that they care about 40 years? Your logic if f**ked, not mine. 100-1 they don't tour this year!
Date: Tues, January 24, 2012, 13:40:53 ET
Posted by: shark, :DPGE-
many thanks! still hilarious after all these years.
there's an interview with the artist, and he said he was sent 3 Steely Dan dreams in a week from different people, which coincided with the release of a greatest hits CD. Showbiz Kids?
Date: Tues, January 24, 2012, 12:12:16 ET
Posted by: PGE, "...on the road again..."Jazz:
Exactly what I thought when I saw it. Must be Willie!
Maybe they ended up smoking those pumpinks after the studio session. :)
Date: Tues, January 24, 2012, 11:34:44 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, insert funny line hereOMG, that's Willie Nelson playing the pumpkins!
Date: Tues, January 24, 2012, 11:14:07 ET
Posted by: PGE, Steely Dan slowwave comicFound some references/links to the comic from April 2003 on both the Bluebook and the Sign In Stranger Archives. Alas, the slowwave.com archive just goes back to 2004, so no luck there.
As it happens some kind person has shared/uploaded it on Photobucket. View it while the link lasts!
http://s41.photobucket.com/albums/e294/carbonmind/?action=view¤t=sTPCpum.gif
/PGE
Date: Tues, January 24, 2012, 10:41:59 ET
Posted by: bassicinstinct, Nottingham UKShark:
There is an archive section on the SlowWave Site:
http://www.slowwave.com/archive.php
Do you know, maybe, what the Don and Walt episode was called?
Date: Tues, January 24, 2012, 02:29:30 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, Brighton, UKHutch came to the rescue of a damsel in distress, his optimism was most welcome. I can tell you, Prefab Sprout fans are the most pessimistic bunch you'll ever come across but their pessimism is quite justified. The band don't really exist as a band rather than the original singer/songwriter and his brother. They never tour and as for album releases... Anyway, compared to them, SD are a hard-touring, fairly productive bunch and that gives me reasons to feel positive about future developments.
Date: Mon, January 23, 2012, 23:59:12 ET
Posted by: shark de ville, up on the hillJim-
let me know if you figure out all the Wet Side Story lyrics. i've been mumbling those words for years now.
while we're on the subject of obscure Dan, does anyone have a copy of the Steely Dan dream from slowwave.com? the website's creator makes comic strips out of people's dreams. there's a great one where the dreamer found himself in the studio with Don and Walt.
Date: Mon, January 23, 2012, 23:05:56 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, whereverJust to add to the Walter guitar defense: Seriously, Walter has a distinct style that has defined any number of Dan songs, and he maintains that in concert. In tour, it's not a matter of Herington v. Becker, it's more like Becker plays signature Becker, and Herington has the weighty role of filling role of the virtuoso solo turns of a cast of geniuses. BOTH are important.
As to that LA Weekly (Danfans are Assholes) post, it was amusing and clever but not entirely on point. My main problem is that it was sophomoric self-flattery in the guise of self-deprecation. (Yes, we Dan fans tend to be educated sorts in terms of music, but when one states the need for a certain level of education to appreciate this music? Sorry, but that's a red flag for major intellectual insecurity)
Date: Mon, January 23, 2012, 22:32:11 ET
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Date: Mon, January 23, 2012, 22:30:50 ET
Posted by: Hutch,Fagenette seemed a bit distressed and she was thinking that maybe the last days were near. My comments were meant as a kind of pep talk for her and for myself as well I suppose. Just being the eternal optimist here. I've missed the last couple of tours and it would be a good thing to stash a bit away for a 40th concert and Danfest celebration.
Nothing more than that.
Date: Mon, January 23, 2012, 22:14:20 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton RougeDoes anybody have a good source for the lyrics to "Wet Side Story?" Thinking about working it up for the summer. Thanks. Jim.
Date: Mon, January 23, 2012, 21:48:38 ET
Posted by: KK, REven if they do tour and give it a 40 year anniversary theme, I don't think it really influences the decision to tour or not.
Date: Mon, January 23, 2012, 20:39:11 ET
Posted by: Hutch,Faulty logic Vic.
Date: Mon, January 23, 2012, 20:06:53 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachYet another tidbit:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lawxr4BMwx1qbbdofo1_1280.gif?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1327453530&Signature=%2BrHNoEjPAUjva62HByZUpFY9qn0%3D
Date: Mon, January 23, 2012, 18:12:11 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, Brite TonAbout Walter: its possible that he could be suffering from aches to do with his old injury. My hubby suffers from aches from motorbike injuries that date back 30+ years, especially in cold weather.These things come back to bite you as you age unfortunately.
Date: Mon, January 23, 2012, 17:38:09 ET
Posted by: vic, Long Island"There's no way they won't tour this summer. It is, after all, their 40th anniversary"
Hutch- I thought you knew these guys better than that. In 2001, SD won a bunch of grammys and got inducted into the R&R Hall Of Fame. Guess what? They waited for two years after that to go tour.
Come on son, get on the ball here!
Date: Mon, January 23, 2012, 17:04:16 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -Jazzassin wrote what needs to be written about Walt's playing.
Anyone who questions his soloing genius needs to spin Home At Last followed by Jack Of Speed, perhaps after indulging in some of that fine Colombian to ensure open senses.
Oh - include Snowbound too.
Otherworldly stuff.
Date: Mon, January 23, 2012, 11:12:01 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachWhen I suggested the clock may be a sign of retirement, I was joking! Still...
As for Walter's playing (imagine our hubris) I have seen him be brilliant and there have been other times... (BTW, I think his recorded studio playing is always fantastic.) But even when Walter wasn't at the top of his game, his playing ALWAYS sounds like Steely Dan, to me. He really knows how to make a "Steely Dan noise here"
I am still sad and embarrassed that I did not catch a show this past tour (the first real post-reunion tour I have completely missed.) But based on numerous accounts, Walter was not himself for much of the tour (as Jazzassin notes.)
If Walter is in pain, maybe this is a good time to forgo a tour and hit a nice comfy studio. (Get that man a custom chair!) Just a thought.
Date: Mon, January 23, 2012, 10:13:38 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, snowbound againshark,
Everything you wrote is correct of course, but don't you think the article was meant entirely ironic?
I wouldn't be surprised if, if you could ask the writer face to face, he would admit he was just playing around with all those stereotypes & misconceptions about what an average Danfan is like. He declares himself as fan no.1, so i guess he's been exposed to most of the prejudice too. So, instead of trying to bust the myths, he probably just shamelessly used them to write an entertaining article.
Re: Walter's playing
Why would anyone bother to stress Walter Becker's alleged limitations as a virtuosic soloist here at the Bluebook?
After all, that's what we have folks like Baxter, Dias, Derringer, Parks, Randall, Carlton, Ritenour, Kahn, Knopfler, Zingg, Krantz, Wadenius and Herington for.
Sunday Hero, if you don't recognize Walters importance, you have a problem, not he.
Imho, the relatively few solos that he does on SD records are all extremely tasty, and even more important; his highly recognizable style & sound is in fact one of the ultimate signature trademarks of Steely Dan. Personally I'm often impressed by his playing, not because of extreme technical skills or anything like that, but because of what his playing does to the whole, and his blues-based soulful style as such. If his soloing on, let's say, Josie doesn't melt your heart, nothing will.
When it comes to his playing during parts of the Shuffle Diplomacy Tour, Chris is unfortunately right. I don't want to start a new discussion about anyones health, but like several posters said last fall, he seemed to have some problems. Extensive use of the stool onstage and sometimes a facial expression telling about a man in pain, combined with him giving more solos to Herington makes me think it's probably a connection between health problems and playing problems.
Hutch,
Thanks for fertilizing the hopes of us overseas fans!
Fagenette, I apologize for rocking the boat and once again airing out my personal worries about the future of SD. I've been worrying about that for over thirty years now, and fortunately they've belied my most pessimistic predictions time after time. :D
Date: Mon, January 23, 2012, 08:50:18 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, Thanks HutchYes, you're probably right. I guess I'd better start saving, I want to see them in London and New York.
Date: Mon, January 23, 2012, 08:46:06 ET
Posted by: Hutch,Fagenette - There's no way they won't tour this summer. It is, after all, their 40th anniversary. It'll probably be another big tour with overseas dates. Don't be surprised to see them come to Great Britain again.
I don't think you have anything to be nervous about.
Date: Mon, January 23, 2012, 08:17:46 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, Brite TonI'm worried now. You know, I never saw the clock as a sign of possible retirement, while I know that people tend to get clocks when they retire it never crossed my mind on this occasion. What with 'The Last Concert Review You'll Ever Read' and now this, I'm really getting jittery. I managed to see Prefab Sprout in 2000, my favourite band at the time (now joint favourite...) and can die happy. However, if I don't get to see the Dan live, at least once I'll be beside myself.
In October, I put Royal Scam on for the first time in ages and it all came back. Now I'm surviving on You Tube clips and that might be all I have for the rest of eternity!
Call me a shrink!!
Date: Mon, January 23, 2012, 04:47:19 ET
Posted by: shark de ville, still laughingthe article is amusing but promotes a few stereotypes/misconceptions
it mentions cocaine twice, but the Dan have written indiscriminately about almost every drug there is and many of their fans have partaken of said drugs.
the Dan never hated hippies and a good chunk of danfans are Deadheads (dandom.com arose from a Grateful Dead message group). Donald loves and performs "Shakedown Street" and he called the song "American Lovers" which they performed on rarities night a "hippie anthem... written 5 years too late."
speaking of rarities night, there's a good example of the Dan giving the fans what they want (which the article claims they don't give a shit about).
there's danfans in all walks of life. in addition to the assholes who like to analyze the the lyrics, there's dreadlock kids and DJs who just dig the funky grooves and clueless yuppies who think Steely Dan also recorded 'Year of the Cat'.
jazz aficionados and bookworms to mainstream soccer moms who have no idea the band is named after a fictitious dildo.
i think Steely Dan is one of the most misunderstood bands of all-time by a good many people and I'm not sure the article did much to help that, or if it even can be helped at this point.
also, is that a mellotron on King of the World?
Date: Mon, January 23, 2012, 03:52:42 ET
Posted by: shark deville, laughing at the frozen rainWalter played great guitar at the two shows I saw last year (Beacon and Boston in Sept) esp on rarities night. love that Flying V!
he's got a great understated bluesy style with plenty of chops.
Date: Sun, January 22, 2012, 22:39:22 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachChris,
Great article on the Dan fandom. Nice plug for dandom.com, too.
Anyone catch this nugget?
http://nowherefille.tumblr.com/post/16152327044/and-then-donald-fagen-and-walter-becker-fall-in
And, a recent visit to the wonderful Radio Dupree gave me a possible explanation to the "new Fagen album" mystery I noted a week or two ago. From Radio Dupree:
"Oh. And the title of Donald Fagens new album; Soul Instinct, came from a fan page done as a joke. Complete with song titles and a cover. Just a joke, but it still was taken as the truth and is now quoted on among other sites Wikipedia!"
My friend--acquaintance, really (who claims to have downloaded the new Fagen album) may have been snared by this joke. Perhaps someone put the label on some random downloads. I still have yet to catch up with him and check it out.
Date: Sun, January 22, 2012, 16:51:08 ET
Posted by: IronWilly, near Canada but not thereAny word on a tour this year?
Date: Sun, January 22, 2012, 13:33:39 ET
Posted by: sunday, at homeWalter's guitar solo's are the most boring, unimaginative playing I've ever heard. He's a great bass player, but as a guitar soloist, he sux!
Date: Sat, January 21, 2012, 18:42:46 ET
Posted by: Jungle Music,That would be the intro of Turn That Heartbeat Over Again.
Date: Sat, January 21, 2012, 18:19:12 ET
Posted by: LD, .Watching this video of Dean Parks, they ask him to play a medley of his Steely Dan stuff. He has a false start and says "I did not play on that" but I didn't recognize the song. Anybody know what it was?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZykrZWOYUsE
Date: Sat, January 21, 2012, 14:07:35 ET
Posted by: Chris, nhListening to a naughty recording of a show from this past tour and I'm struck by the fact that Becker gives a couple of his usual solos to Jon Herrington, and also the fact that his own solos have a lot of flubbed and/or missed notes. I noticed this at the Beacon as well. Those who caught later shows, did things seem to improve for him? Becker has never been flawless live, but the beginning of this tour bucked his trend of soloing more and taking a lot of chances.
Date: Sat, January 21, 2012, 12:16:21 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, TorontoJust read the LA Weekly danfan piece. I cop to all of it!
My mind is being boggled at this writing by Larry Carlton's unbeLIEVably tasty comping on The Nightfly. Good Lord!
Very slick production, too! ; )
Date: Sat, January 21, 2012, 12:01:41 ET
Posted by: Chris, nhOk ... which one of you wrote this?
http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2012/01/tk_steely_dan_fans_danfans.php
I almost lost it over "Danfans are the silently hip minority of rock fandom. We don't hang out in the parking lot and drop acid before a show. We gather over fair trade coffee and artisan beers at the local brew pub to discuss interpretations of song lyrics," until I realized that was part of the joke. Well done, sir.
Date: Fri, January 20, 2012, 22:12:28 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachFunny stuff, Jazzy.
I know it's been said, but RIP Etta:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipN_OYn0AWI
Date: Fri, January 20, 2012, 16:25:32 ET
Posted by: hoops, snowy chicagoDonald to fill in for Levon Helm at February Midnite Rambles:
http://somethingelsereviews.com/2012/01/20/steely-dans-donald-fagen-to-sit-in-for-levon-helm-at-midnight-rambles-in-february/
Also--same site features Sunday reviews of Steely Dan albums.
http://somethingelsereviews.com/tag/steely-dan-sunday/
Date: Fri, January 20, 2012, 14:04:52 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, Briteton.If they're considering throwing in the (Dons) towel, then I'm billing em for the therapy I'll need...
Date: Fri, January 20, 2012, 12:40:53 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton RougeRIP Etta James: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZXvLsltu2A.
Date: Fri, January 20, 2012, 11:36:05 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Ding-Dong? No, please...The possibility that the clock has a message for us, is just to sad to be true. I hope.
Date: Fri, January 20, 2012, 11:21:18 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, MOOOOH!Dean,
That clock is the mother of all trouble, no less!
In Norway we have a tradition of giving our worst friends a stuffed moose's head w/ huge antlers for their 40th birthday, well knowing that it's totally useless, they cannot dispose of or in other ways get rid of it without insulting someone, it takes up a lot of space, it collects dust and the wife will hate it - in short; a perfect gift!
The Ridgeway Decorah Curio Grandfather Clock is in that category.
Date: Fri, January 20, 2012, 10:22:10 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachOne of the things I find particularly annoying is when someone tries too hard to attach meaning to a random act. Typically it says more about the observer than the observed.* With that said---
Is this grandfather clock the mother of all retirement watches?
*(No I do not want to discuss the phenomenological implications of this sentence.)
Date: Fri, January 20, 2012, 09:24:38 ET
Posted by: Michael, Re: JazzassinI don't know why you felt the need to post a rebuttal to my stated opinion, but ok. The overall sound is far too mechanical in nature -- I want to hear something with soul and character. For instance, take Deacon Blues. Sure, it has a definite slickness to the production but it has soulful, warm performances, something MH lacks. The performances on MH are TOO pristine. As such, it is the audio equivalent of looking at a Photoshopped model as opposed to, say, a beautiful girl in real life. Sure, with the latter you may detect flaws if you look hard enough but ...she's 100% natural. As for the songwriting itself, eh, not for me.
To each his own.
Date: Fri, January 20, 2012, 09:16:24 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Towerhey kids, I hurt my back moving that damn clock into Donald's apartment, so I am recuperating at home. As a result, I have 2 tickets for tonight's Jon Herington Band show at Kennett Flash in Kennett Square. Email me if you are interested in them, and we can figure out a meeting place so you can get the tix.
Always lift with your legs, not your back!
Date: Fri, January 20, 2012, 06:22:04 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, tic-tocThe comfy Eames Chair
The good copper pans
The '54 Strat
The Ridgeway Decorah Curio Grandfather Clock
Date: Fri, January 20, 2012, 05:35:24 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, BrightonCongratulations boys on your clock, who gets to have it first? Don't forget that you'll have to reset it each time you move it. I love the design, it looks like a good place to keep those awards of yours.
Date: Thurs, January 19, 2012, 22:25:41 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Towerupdate at donaldfagen.com : "here's looking at you, kids"
Date: Thurs, January 19, 2012, 15:28:25 ET
Posted by: Josey, MassWhat Jazzasin said! Great question!...if not a slick production, what would you prefer? "Hey, is there anyway we could make this sound a little shittier?!"
Date: Thurs, January 19, 2012, 12:24:21 ET
Posted by: M.L.. Lewis,Steely Doc -
I'm probably gonna pass on Lynne Carlock's CD based on the pretentious/unimaginative/potentially self-congratulatory title.
I know this seems short-sighted, imperious and dumb, but I'm goin' w/ my first vibe anyway.
Date: Thurs, January 19, 2012, 11:59:05 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, can't write when I play air guitarPlease forgive some nasty typos.
Date: Thurs, January 19, 2012, 11:56:03 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, at the HQRe: Monkey House
Overly slick producktion... Well, have you heard the entire album loud on a nice stereo? How could it be produced otherwise?
The sound quality is pretty awsome, I'd say.
The enormous amount of details are all almost physically present and neatly balanced, there's tons of punch and energy in the rhythm section, the overall concept soundwise much resembles that of the modern incarnation of Steely Dan, (some of the guitar parts just shreds the skin off the sausage btw) and they play around with turntable effects and elektronica elements that has not been used too much before in combination with the melody based jazz rock/ fusion genre that both SD and Monkey House belongs to. That makes it even more refreshing and original to my ears, and frankly, I dont find the production the least bit slicker than it has to be to preserve all the top musical performances that's been achieved to serve those incredible songs in the best way. And just because they're outstanding musicians doesen't mean it sounds mechanical (?), on the contrary, some of the solos sounds very alive and improvised, and the rhythm section grooves your ass out of your seat on a regular basis.
Nice songs to try and play along with, too.
The vocal sounds good for the songs to my ears, it reminds of several of my favorite singers, and has it's own recognizable sound as well. Lots of emotional nuances underneat the surface, too.
Some elegant passages in the lyrics, and the fact that I get extremely happy and filled with energy by this music makes sure it's on high rotation here these days.
Just an opinion of course. It sure resonates with me. ♪♫
Date: Thurs, January 19, 2012, 10:35:05 ET
Posted by: Michael,While 'You on the Brain' is a pretty good tune in and of itself, I'm not interested in the album. Maybe it's the overly slick production or the mechanical nature of the performances. Maybe it's the dry, stale vocal delivery. It doesn't resonate with me.
Date: Thurs, January 19, 2012, 09:01:13 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the TowerKeith Carlock's bride, Lynne Carlock, has recently released her second CD, "Once and for All" which is produced by none other than ...Keith Carlock! Visit Lynne's website, www.lynnecarlock.com to order your copy! If you want the physical version of the CD, you can get it autographed by both Lynne and Keith for a slight additional charge. A great CD, and a great gift for Valentine's Day...for your scurvy brother or SD lover...
Date: Thurs, January 19, 2012, 07:26:03 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, monkey see monkey doCurious Monkeyhouse fans in Europe (& soon, if not already, in the US) who'd like to stream or buy Monkey House's Headquarters outside iTunes, can check out the album on Spotify:
spotify:album:01BW416f2xckWGow3A5l6R
http://open.spotify.com/album/01BW416f2xckWGow3A5l6R
I hereby join the choir of praise, and think that this is something no Danfan should be without. It's absolutely a must. Never heard anything like it. Best way to spend the time waiting for the other Don.
I guess I will come back to this one and my enthusiasm for it in a later post. Be warned.
Date: Wed, January 18, 2012, 22:46:55 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, PhillyGood god, Miles, you are right - he broke the internet!! Bastard.
Date: Wed, January 18, 2012, 10:10:04 ET
Posted by: Miles, PThat Gaucho junior engineer strikes again.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steely_Dan
Date: Wed, January 18, 2012, 09:29:38 ET
Posted by: Hutch,Here's an interview with KC that sheds a little light on that...
http://www.mikedolbear.com/story.asp?StoryID=1389&Source=Archive&txtSearch=
Date: Wed, January 18, 2012, 07:23:53 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, drrrrrrrumsfagenism,
Re: Less adventurous drumming?
God bless those steady, timekeeping & less adventurous drummers!
I never missed one syncopated measure on any SD track. The variations and subtle nuances are all there, but never stealing focus from other elements in the music.
I think that's how Walter & Donald likes it, especially in the studio; straightforeward with authority and perfect timing.
Gadd's drumming on Aja is a rare exception. It has, of course, plenty of authority, but is hardly straightforward, and the part often referred to as the "Aja drum solo" (which is'nt really a solo but rather an instrumental part with the drums playing a main role) has got a reputation of it's own exactly because it's an exception. And because it's so damn well played, of course.
As for the songs on Kama, 2VN, EMG and Morph, I don't think any of them calls for a different or more adventurous style than what actually made it to the final mix.
Walters solo albums is different, with only three tracks on 11TW having real drums, and Circus Money featuring Keith "Timelock" playing dub/reggae patterns on many songs to accommodate Walters West Indian mood.
Date: Wed, January 18, 2012, 05:40:13 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -Random:
How do fellow Dan peeps feel about the less adventurous drumming style which seems to characterize Kama through Morph, with a few exceptions such as the Two Against Nature title cut?
Date: Wed, January 18, 2012, 04:01:23 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, TorontoSteve M, those horn charts are all me, sir! Might be my favourite part of the process...
Date: Tues, January 17, 2012, 23:39:37 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, PhiladelphiaReserving judgement on this since I'm still waiting for download, but The Darcys have a full cover of Aja which is being streamed here http://www.muchmusic.com/music/firstspin/thedarcys/
Date: Tues, January 17, 2012, 21:43:52 ET
Posted by: Patrick Simmons, hangin' with SkunkAs usual, The Dean is on to something good. And I hear the "Danesque shit" going down. But to be honest, what I mostly heard was echoes of a little tune called "Depending on You" that I wrote.
Date: Tues, January 17, 2012, 21:33:13 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, PhillyA few Dangential items that came to attention today in the Philly-area press. First is a review of a chamber music performance of "Variations on a Theme by Steely Dan" by Mark Hagerty, a composer I'm not familiar with... would LOVE to hear this, sounds like it entails quotes of Babylon Sisters, full review here: http://bit.ly/x13QV4
The second is in the closing minutes of Fresh Air, Terry Gross introduced a clip from Catherine Russell's new CD as well as an announcement that Catherine would be doing an on-air performance next week, though the exact date was not given. Something to look forward to!
Date: Tues, January 17, 2012, 21:23:09 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachIn the words of Hoops, "On the quick..."
Heard something on the way home from work today (local college station has jazz fron 3-7PM). Didn't hear it all--in fact missed all the vocal parts I think. But at some point it caught my attention and I started to wonder if there was some Dan connection involved. Don't know that there is, but I think you will hear some Danesque shit going down in this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUw1VdOCD5g
Date: Tues, January 17, 2012, 16:51:48 ET
Posted by: Steve M, ScotlandDon B.
Thanks for shipping headquarters over to Scotland so quickly during the holiday season.
Okay, I was always going to like it, but the real killer is how much my wife and 16 year-old daughter, neither of whom are hardcore Steely Dan fans, have fallen in love with the album (Emily Einstien in the case of my daughter, December Girls in the case of my good lady wife)
It's easy enough to do 'pop with too many chords', it's not easy however to write so many great tunes packed with instant hooks. One listen and I'm singing the damm thing to myself at work for the rest of the day!
Whoever did the horn charts really deserves a medal (esp Dec Girls). For my part I'm just amazed at how Checkpoint Charlie channels the same vibe as 'Morph' (that instrumental outro) without in any way being derivative.
Really deserves to have some kind of wider commercial success...good luck!
Date: Tues, January 17, 2012, 14:07:45 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, TorontoMonkey House full disclosure: When I was doing vocals for Headquarters, my engineer had to keep reminding me not to go to my "happy place" (code for "you're sounding too much like Fagen")! In the past 36 hours, I've sent MH special orders to Italy, Spain, UK, US, Norway, the Netherlands + three cities in Sweden. Q: Is the world discovering my album? A: I f***in' hope so! DF track in high rotation around here today: H Gang.
Date: Tues, January 17, 2012, 04:54:18 ET
Posted by: Another Scurvy, BrotherFor the official record, the Roots played a very brief "I Got the News" over the entrance of Piers Morgan on Fallon tonight.
Date: Sat, January 14, 2012, 23:45:24 ET
Posted by: Try, thishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATq00wMe2Lw
Date: Sat, January 14, 2012, 22:07:24 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachDoc, I got a Youtube error message. Page not found.
Date: Sat, January 14, 2012, 21:41:05 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the TowerThe Dean:
speaking of Bullwinkle:
http://youtube/ATq00wMe2Lw
Date: Sat, January 14, 2012, 18:02:44 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, onlinedonot,
Re: Deeper Than The Night vs I Got The News drums
Ed Greene plays on both songs.
Date: Sat, January 14, 2012, 16:59:12 ET
Posted by: donot, enterHere's a fun one. Listen to the opening drums to Olivia Newton-John's 'Deeper Than The Night' and compare them to our duo's 'I Got The News'. Nearly identical! I love discovering this stuff.
Date: Sat, January 14, 2012, 14:19:17 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachYou and Bullwinkle, Nicholas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRW7pITY5Cg
Date: Sat, January 14, 2012, 09:24:00 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, PhraxosWTF?!? One thing is clear after watching that video - I need a new hat.
Date: Fri, January 13, 2012, 20:05:27 ET
Posted by: bikemann17, njSeems there is a lot to thank Eric for lately,,,,wink wink
Date: Thurs, January 12, 2012, 22:02:20 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago with more snow than last postThanks so much Eric! Awesome!
I would have missed that if it weren't for your post.
Date: Thurs, January 12, 2012, 22:01:18 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago with more snow than last postThanks so much Eric! Awesome!
Date: Thurs, January 12, 2012, 21:29:17 ET
Posted by: Eric, Portland, ORhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE8cqyv21R4
Very cool video on New Year's in 2011 of Donald Fagen playing the Melodica!
Date: Thurs, January 12, 2012, 09:35:40 ET
Posted by: Josey, MassI wonder if it was tough to leave Yamaha. Their PHX (pheonix) line of drums are the best sounding drums I've ever heard! I've had a set of recording customs for 12 years now and wouldn't trade them for anything...except the PHX line.
Date: Thurs, January 12, 2012, 01:56:30 ET
Posted by: Per, KC WebsiteHi everybody - big changes are coming to the kit. I'll keep you posted on them. Check back soon!
-Keith.
Date: Wed, January 11, 2012, 23:16:08 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plainsper twitter:
"@KeithCarlock has recently joined the Gretsch Drums family!"
Date: Wed, January 11, 2012, 20:05:24 ET
Posted by: In Sight, It Must be RightThis site is hosted in Illinois and SD is a NY based group, so this is Dangential in a reciprocal sort of way:
NYC's first Steak N Shake opens tomorrow.
Date: Wed, January 11, 2012, 18:24:12 ET
Posted by: Hutch,Just finished reading the new Digest and I have to say it is an outstanding edition! There's no doubt we have plenty of tangential Dan music to listen to and talk about while waiting for Donald's new one.
Date: Wed, January 11, 2012, 14:34:04 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicagoThe latest edition of the Dandom Digest was just mailed a few minutes ago. This one covered from November 1 all the way to today.
If you are a subscriber, you should see it in your email box in the next couple of hours. If you don't receive it, check your spam filters first; then, if it's not there, please email me.
As I regularly reminder subscribers, some people have problems with delivery of the Dandom Digest, usually because of their spam filters, firewalls, etc. That's why this sort of notice is posted in the Blue.
The following are the subjects of the Dandom Digest for November 1,2011-January 11,2012
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- merry christmas - part one
- Donald to Guest at Chicagoland Benefit in March
- SD.com Tour Wrap Up
- Donald's New One
- Fagen boxed set vs. DVD-A
- New Alma/Warner Monkey House album features Leonhart, Zingg
- Malcolm Hunter's "Nostalgia in My Square Head"
- Catherine Russell's "Strictly Romancin'" Coming 2/14/12
- Grammy Nomination for Catherine Russell, et. al.!!!
- Finally: Debut CD from Drew Zingg
- News from Mr & Mrs Carlock
- Jon Herington tour Winter 2012
- Steelin' Dan wins another award.
- Follow Dandom.com on Facebook
- Follow @DandomDOTcom on Twitter
- SPOILER: Hunter Valley setlist
- SPOILER: Wellington & Auckland ( not that there is anymore concerts to spoil)
- SPOILEResque: merry christmas - part two
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Thanks for your support through the years, especially Pete and Shari and Gus and remembering Mark and Bill. Special thanks for this Dandom Digest to Doc Buguski.
Jim
Date: Wed, January 11, 2012, 12:57:02 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicagoentmoot:
Maybe this will help some. It's from the Dandom Digest that is coming out later today but was sent to us back on November 6. I've been unable to a do a Dandom Digest since October 31 or so.
Thanks,
Jim
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Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 21:25:19 +1300
From: bruce cameron
Subject: [DANDOM DIGEST SUBMITTAL] spoiler Wellington & Auckland (not that there is anymore concerts to spoil)
Wellington & Auckland Concerts
Both concerts had similar set lists, although Daddy Don't Live was played in Wellington but not Auckland, however Auckland had around 3 songs that were not played at Wellington plus extra encore’s.
Dizzy's Bidness, Aja,Black Friday, Hey Nineteen, Time Out Of Mind,Two Against Nature,Bodhisattva, Rikki Don't Lose That Number,Show Bizz Kids,Green Earrings,Babylon Sisters,Dirty Work, Josie,Peg, My Old School,Reeling In The Years,Kid Charlemagne, Pretzel Logic,and another. ( order not entirely accurate)
Not sure what happened at Wellington, but when it came time to finish, where they normally walk off then come back for the encore, Don just said, we won't go off, we will just play the encore now. Played KC, then that was it. The sound quality of the venue in Wellington was not that good either, so maybe they had had enough. Anyway, we had row 5 seats, right in line with Don, so had great view.
Auckland was a different story, starting at 9.30pm and not finishing until 11.45pm, with the Charlemagne encore, then with Steve Winwood joining in for Pretzel, and some of his band with I think one of his compositions. Walter even cracked a smile while playing this. Right throughout the night , Don was at his best, really seemed to be enjoying the whole do. What made it for us, was having front row seats, and for the encores, we got up and were standing/jiving right near the edge of the stage, so couldn't have got any closer. At one point, they started a song, then stopped, then started again, and at the end, Don said they played the wrong song, which he had called, so then had to play the one they missed. He also got confused, and started to introduce Green Earrings as being from Countdown to Ecstasy, but soon realised his mistake, and corrected himself, then apologised saying it's been a long tour.
I have to say it was absolutely awesome,the band were on fire, and I would not have missed it for the world.
We flew to both concerts, and were lucky enough to see the band at both airports while waiting for our return flights. It was interesting that apart from Michael & Carolyn and Cindy & Freddie, they moved through the airports as individuals, and never acknowledged each other. They are either sick of the sight of each other, or it was their cunning plan not to draw attention to themselves. We never saw Don or Walt though, so not sure how they travelled.
I did not know too much about Steve Winwood before the show, but his band also great and I was glad to have seen them. I was particularly impressed with the guitarist, Jose Neto, thought his solos were amazing.
There is a well known saying here in New Zealand, "four more years”, a taunt the Aussie’s gave us, after losing to them in a previous Rugby World cup, we got our revenge this year, but it's was fours ago that Steely Dan first came here, so all I can say, is roll on “four more years”.
Bruce
Date: Wed, January 11, 2012, 12:54:40 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, PhraxosI kind of liked the Darcy's cover of Josie. Sure, it's dark and lacks layering, but at least is wasn't some smooth-jazz-watered-down effort. We'll see what they do with the rest of the album.
Bonus feature: It's free!
Date: Wed, January 11, 2012, 11:35:12 ET
Posted by: bassicinstinct, Nottingham UKThe Dean:
Me neither!!
Date: Wed, January 11, 2012, 08:32:56 ET
Posted by: entmoot, Annandale, VADoes anyone have the set-lists for the following Steely Dan shows that they can post here?
November 02, 2011 - Wellington, NZ
November 05, 2011 - Napier, NZ
Date: Wed, January 11, 2012, 04:15:39 ET
Posted by: Pet Evans, ManchesterHappy Birthday Don !! From all your fans ( and there are thousands of them ) in the UK and the great City of Manchester. Come and see us soon.
Date: Tues, January 10, 2012, 22:55:46 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton RougeJust listened to The Darcy's version of Josie. The cut's waveform looks like a Saturn V lying on its side... or maybe a syringe. Not sure which. After listening to the whole thing again...it's definitely a syringe.
Date: Tues, January 10, 2012, 16:18:25 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!Re: The Darcy's version of Josie.
Vocally kind of interesting. Instrumentally stripped of anything remotely interesting. I guess I commend them for not making a note-for-note remake of the original. But this version is not for me.
Date: Tues, January 10, 2012, 11:59:13 ET
Posted by: Hicnic,The Darcy's are releasing a cover of AJA (whole album) later this month - their version of Josie found here. Extremely interesting . . .
http://exclaim.ca/News/darcys_cover_steely_dan_on_aja
Date: Tues, January 10, 2012, 11:15:56 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Southern NorwayMan cannot live by champagne alone.
He also needs the music of Steely Dan.
* Happy birthday, Donald Fagen! *
Date: Tues, January 10, 2012, 07:31:27 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, BlightyHappy Birthday Don, 64 and still as sexy as ever! Fagenette xxxxx
Date: Tues, January 10, 2012, 07:29:38 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -Revisited the Beacon live clip of Pearl of the Quarter earlier today - the very first Dan tune I ever heard. Perfection and grace. Happy birthday, Maesteo.
Date: Tues, January 10, 2012, 02:30:12 ET
Posted by: Lewis, Le RossiereOh Bamma
21 nuthin
Date: Tue, January 10, 2012, ET
Posted by: The Loyal Dandom, On All Continents
Happy Birthday, Donald Fagen!
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[ Cake courtesy of the late and very great Boston Rag & hoops ]
Date: Mon, January 09, 2012, 18:22:10 ET
Posted by: Rikki, NYMickey? Seriously?
Date: Mon, January 09, 2012, 14:58:41 ET
Posted by: Fagen Yamaha Poster,Hey Greg M from White Plains.
Thanks for the Carlock shot. Interesting to see his drums in such a little space.
Reminds me, would you mind taking a similar shot of your Fagen-by-a-window Yamaha poster you mentioned having a while back?
I haven't seen it since probably the late 80's in a music store and want to refresh my memory. I've never seen one for sale on the internet/ebay.
Thanks in advance either way.
Date: Mon, January 09, 2012, 12:27:11 ET
Posted by: MMAM, NYCTHE LOSERS LOUNGE PRESENTS A BATTLE OF THE BANDS!
Steely Dan vs. The Doobie Brothers
come cast your vote on this controversial issue!
ONE WEEKEND ONLY!
February 2nd, 3rd and 4th
Joe's Pub
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Thursday Feb 2nd - 6pm
Friday, Feb. 3rd - Two Shows - 7pm, 9:30pm
Saturday, Feb. 4th, -Two Shows - 6:30pm, 9pm
Get Your Tickets HERE!
www.loserslounge.com
Starring house-band extraordinaire The Joe McGinty Seven and their eclectic cast of guest singers, The Losers Lounge is in the business of recreating songs that some might call �guilty pleasures,� and canonizing them into the new American Songbook. Come sing along with The Losers Lounge as they perform all of your favorites from Steely Dan and The Doobie Brothers!
Even if your name isn�t Mickey, you don�t want to lose this number..
Date: Mon, January 09, 2012, 11:30:25 ET
Posted by: @mikethebaker, Tour merchThe only place to look for that stuff is EBay and such sites.
Both Donald and Walter has had some - not much - solo-rlated stuff for sale on their homepages, but as far as Steely Dan goes it's been the shows or not at all.
/PGE
Date: Mon, January 09, 2012, 11:27:16 ET
Posted by: PGE, ...And perhaps Wayne Escoffery could get his saxophone back. The one lost in a taxi cab in 2008.
(I've never heard anything about it being found.)
Date: Sun, January 08, 2012, 15:20:49 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachJulio,
Maybe there is hope for Walter getting back his '54 Strat/
Date: Sun, January 08, 2012, 14:15:59 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in pennsylvaniaIs there any way to buy past tour merch? Specifically looking for Shuffle Diplomacy hoodie. I knew I just should have picked one up when it was easy...
Date: Sun, January 08, 2012, 13:45:40 ET
Posted by: Julio, Any worldFrampton's Dream Guitar, Recovered Decades Later
http://www.npr.org/2012/01/07/144799712/framptons-dream-guitar-recovered-decades-later
Date: Sun, January 08, 2012, 10:01:19 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago, on my smart phoneDonald & Levon Helm to play Old Town School of Folk Music benefit event March 16 & 17 in Chicago. Tickets are $250 including drinks and light supper. Oldtownschool.org for tix.
Date: Sun, January 08, 2012, 02:04:54 ET
Posted by: steaven, nashvilleGreetings! I saw Steely Dan for the first time this summer (2011) at "The Woods Amphitheater" north of Nashville. Great Show! After the show, they played a CD, during load-out, of an old blues song. It sounded very similar to "sittin' on top of the world", but it was even better! Any suggestions on how to find out the artist or title of that song?
Haunted,
-SCR
Date: Sat, January 07, 2012, 18:36:40 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!Jazzy,
The 4th CD of the box set is something I haven't considered. But if he things that "sucks" he is even dumber than I suspect.
BTW, I am getting a huge chuckle of your more off the wall guesses.
Kid Charlemagne--boxing gym
Show Biz Kids--school of the arts
Only a Fool Would Say That--Republican strategist
Razor Boy--barber
Glamour Profession--cosmetology school
What a Shame About Me--therapist
Date: Sat, January 07, 2012, 18:14:39 ET
Posted by: a little, with sugarDo It Again - OCD Clinic
Fire In The Hole - Colonic Irrigation Clinic
Reelin' in the Years - Fishing Holiday Lodge for the over 60's
Only A Fool Would Say That - Website of George Bush quotes
Charlie Freak - Mr Sheen's Website
Monkey In Your Soul - Evolutionary Research Lab
Date: Sat, January 07, 2012, 17:58:19 ET
Posted by: Game?, I'm in.Any World Travel Agency
Sign In Stranger Hotels
On The Dunes Rent-A-Camel
Fire In The Hole Male Escort Service
Date: Sat, January 07, 2012, 15:53:39 ET
Posted by: Greg M, white plains NYA pic of Keith Carlock's drums at 55 bar, ready for action:
http://moonspank.net/KC/photo.JPG
Date: Sat, January 07, 2012, 15:16:02 ET
Posted by: DocMu,
Dean: He's pulling your chain (better than your finger!)
Georunner: As Don alluded, it's the Brazilian/latin jazz influence, particularly from the Sleeping Gypsy/Tiger in the Rain period. Real drums with syncopated rhythms & good fill...and an open soundscape for the musicians to roam.
Don - best of luck with the new release. Maybe the other Don can open for your all after his new album release ;)
Date: Sat, January 07, 2012, 15:07:17 ET
Posted by: i'll play, .Throw Back The Little Ones - fishing charters
Bad Sneakers - shoe store
Lunch With Gina - diner
Gaucho - Brazilian steakhouse
I Got The News - newsstand
Home At Last - funeral home
Date: Sat, January 07, 2012, 13:18:44 ET
Posted by: SD, GameAny good names for businesses you could make out of SD songs? Here's a few I have in mind.
Turn That Heartbeat over Again cardiology
Ya Gotta Walk It pet care services
Were You Blind That Day DWI defense law firm
Dirty Work plumbing
Through With Buzz beehive removal service
Date: Sat, January 07, 2012, 12:14:32 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Viva Rock'n'Roll...or even a leaked pre-release copy of Fagen's new single "When I'm Sixty-Four", with official release date on Tuesday next week?
\m/ (^_^) \m/
Date: Sat, January 07, 2012, 11:20:08 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, trawlin' trawlin' etc, etc.Or perhaps the 4th CD of the Nightfly Trilogy 2007 Box Set, the one with bonus tracks?
Date: Sat, January 07, 2012, 08:17:59 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the TowerDean
do you think your friend was referring to the SD show that was released by Dinky Dawson at Wolfgang's Vault?
Date: Sat, January 07, 2012, 07:55:04 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, trollin' trollin' trollin' - RAWHIIIIDE!!Dean,
Now you got me hooked too, goddammit!
Please contact your buddy and get this thing sorted out, won't you?
In the meantime we can always speculate...
Is he an "experienced driver" on the information super highway?
Can we assume that he knows some sharing sites for boots and other similar pages that's still unknown to you and me?
Is it possible that he is connected to a secret "members only" sharing network?
Is it theoretically possible that someone (M. Leonhart??? Fagen himself???) involved with Fagen's new album has actually made an unauthorized preliminary mix accessible to a limited number of people?
Could any of those priviliged bastards eventually have spread it further on the internet, so that your man has actually found the real thing somewhere?
Is he a professional actor or a lawyer, thus a professional liar? (My apologies to honest lawyers reading this. I know you exist.)
Is he aware that the tradition of "April Fool" is actually not associated with the first week of January?
Have you pulled off some sly practical joke on his expence lately, so that he's trying to get his revenge this way?
Does he know that Eleanora " Billie Holiday" Fagan died in '59 and was not at all Donald Fagens grandma?
Is he aware that Don Fagen is not Don Breithaupt?
Al Hitz,
You're right. Dylan just went epileptic. ;o)
Date: Fri, January 06, 2012, 21:09:07 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachJazzassin,
Actually I asked him if he was sure it wasn't Morph and he assured me it was not. I'm fairly certain he already has Morph, so I believe him. I have to admit I am far too interested in seeing/hearing exactly what he thinks is the new Fagen.
Date: Fri, January 06, 2012, 17:27:15 ET
Posted by: Al Hitz,Jazzasin - You could probably interchange "Dylan just went electric" w/ "Dylan just went eclectic".
Date: Fri, January 06, 2012, 16:29:51 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, TorontoNever mind, Nightfly. That songbook is full of wrong changes anyway.
Date: Fri, January 06, 2012, 16:05:24 ET
Posted by: Nightfly , Mount BelzoniWith great sadness, i'm having to sell my Nightfly music score book. Needs must! :(
Date: Fri, January 06, 2012, 13:33:23 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, 3012Dean,
It's probably just him finally having discovered "Morph", don't you think? And on top of that somewhat late discovery he's got dyscalculia and can't differ between 2006 and 2011? Can he even read english? I don't think so.
OR.. he hoping to trick you into spending time trying to figure it out, which eventually worked.
Btw, The Beatles just reunited to make a third album. I have a leaked copy of the demo. Dylan just went electric, too!
Date: Fri, January 06, 2012, 13:00:50 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine BeachSo, I returned to St Augustine from the South Shore of Mass yesterday, and ran into a friend at my local cigar store. "Have you heard the new Fagen album?" he asks.
Of course, my response was something along the lines of "WTF are you talking about? The new album hasn't been released yet."
"Sure it has. You can download all the songs from the net. It sucks!!"
Obviously he doesn't have the new Fagen release. But I don't think he is just breaking my balls--he really believes he is listening to the new Fagen album, which he insists is from 2011. I'm trying to figure out what the hell he has downloaded. I did a quick bit of online research last night to see if there is anything that could be mistaken for a new Fagen release. I figure he might have stumbled onto a download of some old unreleased bootlegs--or something. But I came up dry. Admittedly I didn't spend a whole lot of time on the subject.
I plan to check out what he has sometime next week and will report back if it is of any interest whatsoever. But until then, anyone have any idea what this nutjob is talking about?
Date: Thurs, January 05, 2012, 21:08:20 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, TorontoNo worries! I'm a fan of Michael Franks, esp. Sleeping Gypsy, and people often name-check him when they're talking about my stuff, although the only tune on the new record that might attract that kind of comment is the Latin-tinged "Lebanon" (which I wrote with one of my other influences, the great Marc Jordan). Here's to free-range debate!
BUT if you don't know Sleeping Gypsy (WB, 1977), featuring Joe Sample, Michael Brecker, Eric Gale, David Sanborn et al, it's definitely worth a listen. Soon afterward, Franks entered MIDI-land for a few years, and those records sound daaaaated now...
Date: Thurs, January 05, 2012, 20:49:16 ET
Posted by: geo, SeattleHey Mu! You just insulted Don. In every one of his press releases, he compares this Monkey House CD to Steely Dan, Paul Simon and MICHAEL FRANKS!
Insert foot in mouth!
Date: Thurs, January 05, 2012, 20:39:46 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, TorontoHappy '12, fellow fans of pop-with-too-many-chords!
Doc Mu, yes, that's Rik Emmett (of '80s AOR fame) soloing on Too Much, Too Much. Rik's a pal. I do his gigs when he goes out as with five-pc. I like your "spring thaw" take on Monkey House, and thanks for ID-ing a bunch of my core influences, among whom SD will always be #1.
It was great to check in after Xmas and find some of you guys debating what the leadoff single from Headquarters should be. What will probably happen is that different tracks will be worked to different radio formats. The big push to radio won't happen until the physical release in early spring, when the album comes out on Alma/Warner in the U.S., Alma/Universal in Canada, and throughout Europe, Asia and the wide world via various distributors.
Best news for me over the holidays: Monkey House / Headquarters made it into the "What's Hot" section of the jazz new releases at the iTunes store, U.S. + Canada!
Date: Thurs, January 05, 2012, 18:29:06 ET
Posted by: last thing,I should add Michael Franks (bust less cheesy) to the MH list...
Date: Thurs, January 05, 2012, 17:11:22 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,*tap* *tap* Is this mic on? Kinda quiet, eh?
JimT,
Thanks - I couldn't make out the guitarist on Too Much Too Much." Good to see Don keeping 80s Canadian guitar icons employed!
Lebanon and Think Man's Me are probably my favorite recordings, although they have limited single- MH is appealing since Don takes elements of D&W, Sting, Weather Report, Little Feat, James Taylor, post-modern country, bossa nova, etc. and melds it into his own style. Very sunny, a little icy like that first Spring thaw where icicles are melting in the angular sun.
Fagen's album should be out sometime this year. May before a summer tour would be my guess. Michael Leonhart is co-producing, so it should be a treat. He plays a big role in Malcolm Hunter's latest testament to NYC...the tales of the brain dead dawn following another gig in another smoky hard bop jazz club...
Date: Mon, January 02, 2012, 21:14:22 ET
Posted by: 55 Bar, CapacityOr 18 Americans.
Date: Mon, January 02, 2012, 18:54:50 ET
Posted by: vic, Lenox, MARe: Keith at Bar 55 : Don't spread the word so much. Bar 55 only fits 30 people.
Date: Mon, January 02, 2012, 12:05:08 ET
Posted by: Keith, forgot-I will be performing my first ever "solo drums" show at the legendary 55 Bar in NYC at 7PM (Early Set) on January 4th, 2012!!! Please spread the word and if you're in the NYC area at that time, I hope you can make it!!!
Date: Mon, January 02, 2012, 12:03:25 ET
Posted by: Keith, NYC01/04/2012 Keith Carlock (solo drums) @ The 55 Bar 7PM (Early Set) New York, NY
Date: Mon, January 02, 2012, 11:59:02 ET
Posted by: Jon, East CoastJan 5, 2012 8:00 PM
Mexicali Live Teaneck, NJ
www.mexicalilive.com
Jan 7, 2012 8:00 PM
The Record Collector Bordentown, NJ
$12 in advance $15 day of show for more info go to www.the-record-collector.com
Jan 15, 2012 7:30 PM
Jalopy Brooklyn, NY
Special acoustic performance by The Jon Herington Band. For more info go to www.jalopy.biz
Jan 19, 2012 8:00 PM
HARRISBURG MIDTOWN ARTS CENTER- STAGE ON HERR Harrisburg, PA
www.harrisburgarts.com
Jan 20, 2012 8:00 PM
Kennett Flash Kennett Square, PA
www.kennettflash.org
Jan 21, 2012 7:00 PM
Puck Doylestown, PA
www.pucklive.com
Jan 25, 2012 8:00 PM
Turning Point Piermont, NY
www.turningpointcafe.com
Jan 26, 2012 8:30 PM
Olde Mistick Village Art Cinemas Mystic, CT
www.oldemistickflicks.com
Jan 27, 2012 8:00 PM
Infinity Hall Norfolk, CT
www.infinityhall.com
Jan 28, 2012 8:00 PM
Dover Brick House Dover, NH
www.doverbrickhouse.com
Jan 29, 2012 7:00 PM
One Longfellow Square Portland, ME
www.onelongfellowsquare.com
Jan 30, 2012 8:00 PM
The News Cafe Pawtucket, RI
www.facebook.com/newscafe.ri
Jan 31, 2012 8:00 PM
Johnny D's Somerville, MA
www.johnnyds.com/
Feb 10, 2012 8:00 PM
The Falcon Marlboro, NY
http://www.liveatthefalcon.com/ The Falcon is a unique "pay your own price" venue
Feb 20, 2012 8:00 PM
Iridium Jazz Club New York, NY
Jon Herington Band with Les Paul trio, shows at 8 PM and 10 PM for info go to theiridium.com
Feb 25, 2012 8:00 PM
The Brighton Bar Long Branch, NJ
$12 advance
Date: Sun, January 01, 2012, 01:18:31 ET
Posted by: TO Danfan, at the barHappy New Year to all here at the Blue.
The better half's gone to bed so here I sit enjoying Perfection in Performance for the umpteenth time! Nice way to ring in the new year I think.
2012 is year 40! Let's hope for some new Dan music,a tour, and a box set of goodies.
Cheers
Date: Sun, January 01, 2012, 00:05:30 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton RougeDoc: That is a tough question: What would be the first single from Headquarters?". Personally I would vote for "I Could Do Without the Moonlight." Great groove, full of hoooks, bridge that grabs you by the throat, quirky, yet accessible lyric... But that's just me. All of your choices are valid singles material.
BTW: the guitar solo on "Too Much, Too Much" is by Rik Emmett who, I believe, was a member of Triumph, a Canadian band that I frankly did not follow closely, although I do remember hearing them on the radio in Nashville and Memphis and seeing on MTV. I am sure you will remember this one: "Lay it On the Line": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn_yRlYVnUw.
Any word yet on Donald's new album?
Date: Sat, December 31, 2011, 21:25:19 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Jim,
That's right. Canadian guitar legend Kim Mitchell is the author of the tasty incendiary solo...Also on Too Much Too Much it sounds like? Drew Zingg applies the chops on Where's Mantis Evar?, Revolver, Right About Now I think.
If they still released singles Mantis Evar, Revolver, Too Much Too Much, Man, You Love to Hate, possibly Right About Now would be the best candidates, each having some cross-over marketing potential.
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