August 2011 Posts
All Times are Eastern (New York City) Time Zone.
Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 09:27:36 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
reelin, thanks for the heads-up.
This might help get you to the gear a bit quicker:
http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2011/Sep/GALLERY_Steely_Dan_Touring_Gear_2011.aspx
Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 03:31:59 ET
Posted by: reelin, poorhouse
Becker and Herington's tour gear at
http://www.premierguitar.com/
drool.....
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 20:09:47 ET
Posted by: bear lyrics,
in the demo it's
"but I done my time"
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 18:38:40 ET
Posted by: Bethlehem, Attendee
X Factor:
"A young couple a few rows ahead of me was smoking a joint, and at some point the older women sitting next to them asked to take a drag. The women got up and bought the young couple beers as a "thank you"! Hilarious."
I saw the same exact thing happen in Bethlehem.
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 18:11:13 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis
Lurker Ray & MPLS,
I agree that the reviewer was wrong, but he was obviously not as up on Steely Dan in the last 30 yrs. If people (reviewers) go to these shows expecting to hear a Donald from the 70's they will all go home unhappy. Donald's voice was still great in 2000 (imho), but you have to accept some drop off and I don't go to these shows expecting to hear a great voice...but it was really good last night... I go to hear great songs by a great band. They were rocking last night. I hope the rest of the tour goes as well for all of you out East...or should I should I say "back East"
Ports
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 17:33:26 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
I know Hoops was also looking for
a correct setlist for the Milwaukee
Sunday night show. Unfortunately,
no one who saw both shows reported
that The Untouchables Theme WAS NOT
played Sunday night. Last Tango was
back in for some reason.
Here is the correct setlist -
Riverside Theater Milwaukee, WI August 28, 2011
Dizzy's Bidness
Your Gold Teeth
Aja
Black Friday
Hey 19
Time Out Of Mind
Show Biz Kids
Bodhisattva
FM
Godwhacker
Home at Last
Papa Don't Take No Mess
Babylon Sisters
Dirty Work
Do it Again
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Reelin' In The Years
Kid Charlemagne
Last Tango In Paris
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 16:40:05 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Mpls,
That's great to hear. And thanks
for the added report.
Ports,
Sorry I missed your setlist.
My bad. Gotta get that scroll
button checked ;O)
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 16:35:32 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
Surprised Old School was dropped for the Minn show, must have been due to time constraints if there was some kind of curfew as someone mentioned. That had been played on every stop to this point hasn't it?
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 16:17:40 ET
Posted by: Mpls,
Lurker,
I am going to have to call another foul on the Pioneer Press reviewer - though overall it was not an asinine review. I think he is wrong on the Donald, and I am not afraid to admit when he is not cutting it. But last night he was truly in terrific form both singing and playing, he had no trouble on Bodhi or any other song for that matter, with maybe the slight exception of Godwhacker. Ports had the setlist correctly posted earlier, but here it is again, with a few additional editorial comments. Overall, despite the setlist vitriol on this site, you look below and see a pretty tremendous set list in my humble opinion. "Hits" which many of us have longed to see retired, like Do it again, FM (maybe), and My Old School are out, and we get things like Lunch with Gina, Parkers Band and Gold Teeth opener. While we devotees are used to seeing songs like Aja, TOOM, Black Cow, Show Biz kids, and Home at Last, those hardly classify as radio "hits" for the masses. Instead they are just effin' great songs, and they are good live almost every time. It is a privilege to see these pros play, period.
Dizzys Bidness
Your Gold Teeth - even though I knew it was coming, no less awesome. Killer jam and great vocals. Ballsy choice for an opener this year
Aja - tour de force as always
Black Friday - "chicago" style, not my fave - but crowd perked up for this
Hey Nineteen - several funny walter references to "large beavers"
Time Out of Mind - just a great song live, deserves to be a staple as it has been since 2003
Lunch With Gina - underrated song, melodica solo by Donald
Show Biz Kids - funked up
Bodhisattva - as I mentioned in my earlier post, absolutely smoking. Donald no problem on this one, great Herrington
Black Cow - one of my all-time faves. I never get sick of it.
Godwhacker - great horn solos, Donald energetic throughout, a few strained vocals
Home at Last - one of the highlights of the evening for me. Great Walter solo and Don rhodes intro, very strong Don vocals here
Papa Don't Make no Mess - great choice for band intros
Dirty Work - fine, but for me may have lost some of the luster since they originally re-worked it in 2000
Parkers Band -
Josie
Peg - crowd psyched and dancing
Reelin' in the Years - crowd nuts, band getting rained on
Kid Charlemagne - nice closer, esp. Jon H on fire
Untouchables
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 15:59:11 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
With regard to releasing a live DVD, I don't think it necessarily has to be an "art vs money" decision. At some point, a visual recorded legacy has to be thought about as something valuable for the memory and history of the band. Or more pragmatically, at some point the Dan has to remember there are millions of fans all over who could not get to shows, or who could not afford shows etc. Why not reward the fanbase with a live DVD, as a thank you for support over the years. I have no doubt they could make a lot of money releasing a live DVD set--if they did and it was done right, and comprehensive (maybe full of nice bonuses etc), it could easily become one of the best selling music concert DVD releases of 2012. But it doesn't just have to be done as a money maker---if thought of as a document of their live concert legacy and/or as a thanks to fans who could not make it, a live DVD could accomplish both purposes. There are dozens of great jazz artists who have released concerts and made money on video releases. There is nothing jaded or shallow about doing so if done right and for the right reasons. Miles Davis fans have hours and hours of live concert footage to view that was officially released and I doubt if anyone ever considered him a "sellout".
Its the right thing to do, and now is the right time to do it.
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 15:51:23 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Ports,
Nice catch on another lazy reviewer
this tour. We've had a lot of them.
Speaking of "Dizzy's Bidness", I'm
surprised that with all of the Beacon
setlist speculation lately that no one
has considered that perhaps we might
get lucky and see "The Steely Dan Show"
make an appearance as an opener or closer.
Mpls,
That is why we go to sound checks!!!
Sounds like a great one. Wish I could have
been there.
Thanks for the all of the reports from
soggy Minny. But does anyone have the
setlist? And how are Don's pipes holding
out? Another error by this reviewer?
I hope so. Especially as they head into NYC.
"As carefully considered and note-perfect as the evening was, Fagen himself turned out to be a bit of a weak spot."
"he sounded hoarse and struggled with the high notes. "Bodhisattva," in particular, suffered from Fagen's croak."
Have a great one at the "dry" Orpheum tonight.
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 14:52:16 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG, PA
Sorry to break the news Mr. LaPage (in the den) someone has written
this on every tour about the band making a dvd. I just dont see it
happening, for whatever reason. They really have never released a
concert dvd, the 2 vs nature was more a gathering of there closest
friends and family, I would hardly call it a concert!! Although it
was amazing just not reaaly a live "concert"!! Bottom line" I am
not sanguine on this happenning, could be wrong though, there is a
first time for everyting!! #) (I hope that is a smile, I stole it
from THE DEAN)
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 14:50:32 ET
Posted by: Peteb, UK
@Mr LaPage - "it just makes too much sense NOT to do a nice live DVD with these shows......which is probably why they won't do it....."
- nicely put. Their ultimate decision will clear the air as to whether Art (perverse SD style) or Money is the motivator these days...
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 14:28:23 ET
Posted by: The X Factor, Minneapolis
Great show last night, despite the weather.
Lunch With Gina was the highlight for me, although everyone around me thought that song was the appropriate time to get a beer. Ugh.
Band was tight and spot on even though they must have been getting drenched. As always, John Herington never fails to impress. What a stud.
A young couple a few rows ahead of me was smoking a joint, and at some point the older women sitting next to them asked to take a drag. The women got up and bought the young couple beers as a "thank you"! Hilarious.
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 13:48:45 ET
Posted by: Greg M, hate-ville
So they didn't actually play East St. Louis Toodle-oo?
sigh...
Here a fun factoid: I hate Dizzy's Bidness.
I hate the name of it. I hate the structure. I hate the piece.
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 13:33:58 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
WonkaVader, just reading some older posts to check on setlists. Did you really pay $110 for a $35 balcony seat in St. Louis? Wow, I knew it was a sellout but I didn't realize people were getting those kinds of prices on a Wednesday night, especially considering they played so many shows in the midwest on this tour. Usually there is always some tickets floating around right before the show starts at the Fox. Although I do know that for some of the album shows at the Chicago Theater in 09 there were many people just begging for a single and nary a scalper to be found. I bet I could have sold my Royal Scam show ticket that night for $300. But I didn't.
To follow up on one of my earlier posts, I threw in my Midnight Special DVDs last night to rewatch SD in 1973 perform Reelin and Do it Again live. I had forgotten that David Palmer does the lead vocal on Do it Again on that show, and man, was he in dire need of a good dentist. Fagen only joins in on the refrains. They hardly show Becker at all playing his bass. The band is much looser and "rocking" and the music is not as precise as it is now of course---the guitar solos from Skunk and Dias are not spot on, but approximate. Still, some interesting viewing, wish there was more from that time period.
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 12:38:49 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis
This from a review of last nights concert
"The group, minus Fagen, opened with a cover of the old Duke Ellington nugget "East St. Louis Toodle-Oo," a song they first recorded for 1974's "Pretzel Logic."
HELLO! Bubby!
I think this guy looked at some set list from St Louis and thought that was the opener. It was not East St Louis Toodle-oo, it was Dizzys bidness.
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 12:29:21 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
Is there anyone here with "connections" who have any inside info on whether Steely Dan intends to video record these upcoming run of Beacon shows for a possible DVD? I would think if they are ever going to do this, now is the time. They could do a amazing multi disc DVD which in essence would be a career retrospective. They could do it album by album, or by theme shows. They could edit it as one long massive concert with all the goodies thrown in. The band is at the peak of their game, these guys are not getting any younger, and it just makes too much sense NOT to do a nice live DVD with these shows......which is probably why they won't do it.....
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 11:16:29 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Nice job, CJB.
Now, I probably won't be able to make it on the 17th. But for the sake of those who will be there, please please please do NOT sing along. This ain't a Mitch Miller concert.
:#)
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 11:01:52 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR
I went looking for lyrics to "The Bear," which I was lucky enough to hear twice this summer, once in Seattle and once in Portland. and couldn't find them. So I made a transcript, matching up the live Seattle clip on Youtube with the studio version. My attempt is below. Corrections welcome. Hopefully on September 17th we'll all be able to sing along. I love that "Mister Quick" line, a distant precursor of Godwhacker's Rajahs of Erase.
You Got the Bear
Words and music by Walter Becker and Donald Fagen
Sir I've caught my juggernaut at your gate
Fifteen thousand miles and I'm feelin' great
I been on the run but I got my time [?]
You just can't stand still with a friend like mine
There's a bear that walks like a man
Better shake him fast
Better hide yourself if you can
'cause he wants your ass
I believe you'll do quite well
But only time will tell
If you got the bear or the bear got you
Drive the coach and six for the county line
Point me t'ward the tube and I'll be just fine
Mister Quick has flown from the cosmic zoo
Someone must be him and I just found you
There's a bear that walks like a man
Better shake him fast
Better hide yourself if you can
'cause he wants your ass
I believe you'll do quite well
But only time will tell
If you got the bear or the bear got you
[Repeat chorus]
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 09:47:48 ET
Posted by: MN State Fair, Review
http://www.twincities.com/ci_18792812
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 09:20:40 ET
Posted by: Ports, Still Wet Minnepolis
"MLPS" Sorry I didn't get to hear the soundcheck that would have been great. I really want to hear Everything You Did.
Joan - Nice to see you made it to Minnesota and that you agree we did see a great show.
More highlights for me last night..Donald was in very good voice much better than what I saw in 2009. He did strain a little on Lunch w/Gina but it was well worth it to hear that song. Did I count 4 melodica songs and 3 in a row, nice.
Best Dirty Work I've heard.
Superhuman work from Herrington with the rain blowing in on him at the end he got through Reelin's mega solo while toweling his strings as the song went along.
I really hope they are going to use this tour to make some sort of 40th anniversary live Boxset next year.
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 09:13:49 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
While trying to find a live clip of Lunch with Gina I stumbled upon this. Pretty damn good sounding band from Sweden.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC2GjoqRhAQ
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 08:56:44 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
Nice to see that the boys have ended up consistently playing 18 songs a night as opposed to earlier shows where 16 songs was considered lucky.
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 07:55:10 ET
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Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 02:18:15 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Mpls. MN
Still warming up and almost dry after being out in that rain, but have to say this MN State Fair show was the best I've seen so far this tour... the band was also getting wet (you could see rain going in toward stage, lots of toweling off of instruments going on) but they were absolutely amazing. Something about the inclement weather added a crazy energy, somehow, to both the audience and the band. WISH I could have taken photos, the misty rain through the spotlights was a beautiful, slightly surreal sight. Oh, and to top it off: Lunch with Gina. Fabulous.
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 01:53:13 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Sorry, typing too fast
Ports and Mpls,
Thanks a lot for staying up to write the reports!
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 01:51:02 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 01:50:16 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 01:05:19 ET
Posted by: Ports, Rainy Minneapolis
Hi all- oops I meant Papa don't Take no Mess
I just returned from the Steely show at the Minnesota State Fair.
First thoughts -- preshow standing inline for t-shirts I overheard the following "does HE have a new album out?" and "I heard they are in the studio right now making the Suffle Diplomacy album."
Now on to the show.
It lightly rained for a hour preshow and into the first four songs. I was at the Dukes show last year at the fair and it rained harder all night so Donald must think it rains here all the time.
I was worried this would ruin the night...I was very wrong. The band came out strong and it was the best Steely Dan concert I've seen. (I've been to 1996, 2003, twice in 2009). I have to agree with Hoops that it is so much more than the set list. I went this year to hear (hopefully) Gold Teeth. After it was played I could have gone home happy and gone to bed, but the rest was just as good.
Normally I don't care that much for Godwacker but it was sublime. The horn arraingement was fantastic. I love the Papa Don't take band into's...brilliant...got a standing ovation from much of the crowd.
Also loved the back to back choir of Dirty Work - Parkers Band
I think we got one song less because of the 10:30 deadline at the fair. As soon as the last note from the Untouchables played they set off fireworks that end each night. I was afraid Walter would have a heart attack...I almost did.
More thoughts tomorrow I need to sleep...I'm old.
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 00:57:34 ET
Posted by: Mpls,
Wow, great show in crappy weather at the MN State Fair. Great energy, tight playing as expected. Too tired to give all the details but highlights were:
Gold Teeth - wonderful to finally hear it live, made a great 1-2 punch with Aja to start
Home at Last, TOOM and Black Cow executed to perfection
Bodhi - completely smoked. Biggest crowd reaction of the night, other than Reelin/Peg
Lunch with Gina - great to finaly hear it live. Godwhacker was solid too
Parkers Band - surprised to hear it.
The soundcheck earlier in the day added to the experience, almost like getting a bonus concert, because it was Royal Scam practice day. Of what I heard, they did:
Don't Take me Alive
Sign in Stranger - awesome!
Fez
Haitian Divorce
Everything you Did
Royal Scam
Godwhacker
I might have missed one or two, but I'm pretty sure all of these were played at the soundcheck. What a great day.
Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 00:39:43 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis
Just back from the Minn State Fair show
Set List :
Dizzys Bidness
Your Gold Teeth
Aja
Black Friday
Hey Nineteen
Time Out of Mind
Lunch With Gina
Show Biz Kids
Bodhisattva
Black Cow
Godwhacker
Home at Last
Papa Don't Make no Mess
Dirty Work
Parkers Band (Girls back to back was sweet)
Josie
Peg
Reelin' in the Years
Kid Charlemagne
Untouchables(followed by Fireworks show)
I'll get a review post shortly...
it was fantastic...dispite the rain.
Date: Tues, August 30, 2011, 23:14:50 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville
"Any Major Dude" would certainly make my evening if I heard that one.... rarities night or any major night... makes no difference.
I even learned to play that song on guitar many moons ago.
Here is a 1996 video of SD playing it. Perhaps that can try a different arrangement if the horns are to be used again. Classic song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KDVz3jzyjQ
Date: Tues, August 30, 2011, 22:21:38 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, at home - no more hurricane
I just bought tickets to see Larry Carlton at Infinity Hall in Norfolk, CT. A spectacular venue and I'm really looking forward to the show.
10/23/11 � Larry Carlton � 07:30 PM
Larry Carlton�s own musical story began in Southern California. He picked up his first guitar when he was only six years old. He was introduced to jazz in junior high school after hearing The Gerald Wilson Big Band album, Moment of Truth, with guitarist Joe Pass. Larry then became interested in Barney Kessel, Wes Montgomery and the legendary blues guitarist B.B. King. Saxophonist John Coltrane was also a major influence on Carlton, beginning with Coltrane�s 1962 classic Ballads.
In 1968 he recorded his first LP, With A Little Help From My Friends (Uni). The enthusiastic industry response garnered him a place among jingle singers The Going Thing, recording on camera and radio commercials for Ford. Mid-season in his second year, he segued to Musical Director for Mrs. Alphabet, an Emmy-nominated children�s show on the same network. It was here that Carlton showcased his acting skills, performing as the show�s co-star, "Larry Guitar."
Calls began to increase significantly as Carlton gained distinction for the unmistakable and often imitated "sweet" sound he delivered with his Gibson ES-335. He also broke new ground with his new trademark volume pedal technique, eloquently displayed in his featured performance on �Crusader One with legendary jazz/rock group The Crusaders in 1971. Joni Mitchell�s Court and Spark album, the first record she made with a rhythm section, displays his distinctive Technique � a style Mitchell referred to as "fly fishing."
During his tenure with The Crusaders (through 1976), Carlton performed on 13 of their albums, often contributing material. In 1973, Carlton released his second solo project, SinginglPlaying, on Blue Thumb Records � aptly titled, as he not only played guitar, but also performed vocals on eight tracks. Carlton�s demand as a session player was now at its zenith, he was constantly featured with stars from every imaginable genre, ranging from Sammy Davis, Jr., and Herb Alpert to Quincy Jones, Paul Anka, Michael Jackson, John Lennon, Jerry Garcia and Dolly Parton. At the same time, he was still performing more than 50 dates a year with The Crusaders.
Before he transitioned completely to a solo career, Carlton became one of the most in-demand studio musicians of the past three decades. Carlton�s catalog of work includes film soundtracks, television themes and work on more than 100 gold albums.
Ultimately, Carlton began scaling back his session work substantially, while continuing to perform and record with the Crusaders. He shifted his emphasis to the challenges of arranging and producing, and built his own studio-Room 335-in his home. During this period he arranged and produced projects for Barbra Streisand, Joan Baez and Larry Gatlin, as well as producing and co-writing the theme for the hit sitcom Who�s The Boss and co-writing (with Michel Columbier) and arranging the acclaimed movie soundtrack for Against All Odds.
As his association with the Crusaders began to draw to a close, Carlton signed with Warner Bros. Records in 1977. Between �78 and �84, Larry recorded six solo albums for Warner Bros. Records: Mr. 335: Live In Japan, Friends; Eight Times Up; Sleep Walk; Strikes Twice; Larry Carlton. The latter self-titled album was released hot on the heels of his debut session with rock supergroup Steely Dan. Rolling Stone magazine lists Carlton�s tasty ascent on Steely Dan�s Kid Charlemagne as one of the three best guitar licks in rock music.
With more than 3000 studio sessions under his belt by the early 1980s, Carlton had picked up four Grammy nominations. In addition to winning a Grammy (`81) for the theme to "Hill Street Blues" (a collaboration with Mike Post), he also was voted NARAS�s "Most Valuable Player" for three consecutive years. NARAS then named him "Player Emeritus" and retired him from eligibility.
In 1985 he was approached by the newly formed MCA Master Series to consider doing an acoustic jazz album. His first release for the new label was Alone, But Never Alone, a consensus No. 1 album on the Radio & Records and Billboard Jazz charts. The twelve months of 1987 brought some of the biggest highlights in Carlton�s solo career. In addition to winning the Grammy for "Minute by Minute," Carlton received a Grammy nomination for "Best Jazz Fusion Performance" for his live album Last Nite. Coming off of the success of two acoustic albums and one live album, Carlton was on a hot streak and entered the studio to work on his next project, On Solid Ground. The all-electric project was nominated for a Grammy in 1989. The release of On Solid Ground came almost one year after Carlton was brutally shot in a random act of violence outside his Los Angeles studio.
In 1990, MCA acquired GRP Records and placed their jazz artists under the GRP moniker. Immediately, GRP issued a greatest hits package of Carlton�s work on MCA, called Collection. In 1991, Carlton entered the studio to record a blues-based album with John Ferraro, keyboard man Matt Rollings, bassist Michael Rhodes and harmonica player Terry McMillan. Interrupted by label and consumer demands for another jazz offering, Carlton temporarily shelved what would become Renegade Gentlemen and recorded and released Kid Gloves in �92. A pop-oriented Jazz collection of lilting acoustic ballads and biting electric workouts, the album marked the first time Carlton had included both acoustic and electric tracks on a single solo project.
In between touring, Carlton resumed work on the bluesy Renegade Gentlemen. Taking the original six tracks to Nashville (his first time to record in that city), and joining up once again with Michael Rhodes and Terry McMillan, plus drummer Chris Layton (from Stevie Vaughan�s band Double Trouble) and keyboard wizard Chuck Leavell, he recorded four tracks, plus did additional production and mixing on the blues rocker in time for a �93 release.
Carlton toured extensively that year and the next with jazz superband Stanley Clark And Friends (Stanley Clark, Larry Carlton, Billy Cobham, Deron Johnson and Najee). The quintet released Stanley Clark and Friends Live A t The Greek in �94.
Larry & Lee, Carlton�s 1995 collaboration with guitar great Lee Ritenour, garnered him his eighth Grammy nomination. This was followed by The Gift in �96 and Larry Carlton Collection Volume 2 in �97. That same year, his virtuosity and reputation secured him a place in the crum�topping award-winning Warner Bros. Records� group Fourplay, when member Lee Ritenour left to head his own label. Carlton doubled the fun by signing to Wamer Jazz as a solo artist at the same time. Since then he has released two albums with Fourplay: 4 in �98 and a refreshingly different Christmas album, Snowbound, in October �99. 1999 also brought Larry Carlton his very own spot on Hollywood�s prestigious Rockwalk. On June 3, he was inducted along with Joe Satriani, Steve Vai and Jimmie Vaughn.
The year 2000 starts with Carlton putting his singularly superb fingerprints on the new millennium with his star-studded solo release on Wamer Bros. Records, Fingerprints. Utterly unique, Larry Carlton has set a standard for artistry that spans three decades (and two centuries) and he is undoubtedly destined to leave his mark on jazz, blues, pop and rock for the foreseeable future�
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Date: Tues, August 30, 2011, 18:00:15 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!
For Dawn of the Dan and/or Rarities night, I'd love to hear (in addition to the songs they already sometimes play from the first three albums):
Fire in the Hole
Only a Fool Would Say That
Turn That Heartbeat Over Again
Razor Boy
Pearl of the Quarter
Any Major Dude
Charlie Freak
Through With Buzz (how great would it be if one of NYC's string quartets sat in for this?)
Night By Night
I'm not sure why Katy Lied gets the short shrift here as it isn't played as an entire album and isn't included in Dawn of the Dan. But I'd love to hear these live:
Rose Darling
Throw Back the Little Ones
Your Gold Teeth II
Dr. Wu (still a rarity, no?)
Everyone's Gone to the Movies--remember this great interpretation from 1993?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsbaJtIRTVM
And while I'd certainly love to hear some unreleased stuff (hearing something unreleased makes a great story and gives some in the audience a feeling they heard something special) I'd probably prefer any of the above.
Date: Tues, August 30, 2011, 17:46:57 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
@tommytomato----I sure hope I am wrong about that Dawn of the Dan setlist.....
re Dawn of the Dan, do all you Dan diehards have the Midnight Special DVDs? You guys do know that there are 2 live SD performances on those from the 73/74 era with the original band, Reelin and Do it Again on two different DVDs. I will have to pull those out and watch them again. I loved that show as a teenager. FOCK MTV, I cut my teeth on The Midnight Special, Don Kirshner's Rock Concert, and later Sat Night Live, along with PBS' Soundstage. Does anyone know of any other live footage of the 73-74 era band?
Date: Tues, August 30, 2011, 17:11:38 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH
@ Mr. Lapage
I think you are very close (if not spot on) for the "Dawn of The Dan" set list.
Just my opinion.
Date: Tues, August 30, 2011, 16:59:22 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
My apologies, Mr. LaPage.
Date: Tues, August 30, 2011, 16:35:53 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
And, if we take "B-Sides" literally for Rarities night, here they are:
Fire in the Hole
Only a Fool..
Pearl of the Quarter
Razor Boy!
Through the Buzz
And Major Dude....
Through Back the Little Ones
Chain Lightning
Green Earrings
Sign in Stranger
I Got the News
Home at Last
Black Cow
Date: Tues, August 30, 2011, 16:15:15 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
So in the "spirit" of Tommytomato's possible 21st Cent Dan setlist, here is a possible Dawn of the Dan setlist:
1. East St Louis Toodle--oo
2. Your Gold Teeth
3. Hey Nineteen (Becker story)
4. Black Friday
5. Do it Again
6. Monkey in Your Soul (sung by Becker)
7. Bodhisattva
8. Show Biz Kids
9. Pretzel Logic
10. Dirty Work (sung by Brats)
11. Parker's Band (sung by Brats w/ band intros)
12. Josie
13. Peg
14. My Old School
15. Reelin in the Years
16. Rikki Don't Lose That Number (instrumental only)
17. Kid Charlemagne
18. Untouchables Theme (outro)
Date: Tues, August 30, 2011, 15:52:07 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
actually it was me, Mr. LaPage (in the den) that asked about Razor Boy.
Date: Tues, August 30, 2011, 15:00:59 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Tommytomato, I'm pretty sure Razor Boy has definitely never been played at least since 1993, and I don't know if it was ever played in the early 1970s. I'm pretty sure it wasn't part of their 1974 setlist thought, so it would be a small window if they ever played it live back then.
That would definitely be a "rarity" or "deep cut" that I would love to hear.
Date: Tues, August 30, 2011, 13:09:01 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
Mr. Lapage I love your setlist and according to my source you may get
your wish with alot of your picks!! As far as the first album goes
it would be at the bottom of my rankings of all there albums!! That
includes all of Dons solo efforts!! That said it still pretty damn good, sort of like the ugliest PLAYMATE!!
Date: Tues, August 30, 2011, 12:35:30 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
Seems to me for a legit "21st Cent Dan" night they would have to play at least 3 songs from each album, otherwise, why bother even calling it that?
What is the consensus on which night you will hear more deep nuggets----Dawn of the Dan or Rarities night? I don't care about unreleased tunes as much as tunes they simply don't play that often.
Has anyone got the answer on whether Razor Boy has ever been played?
Date: Tues, August 30, 2011, 12:32:54 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH
Concerning my previous post on "21st Century Night"...yes, I have Kid C opening and closing the show...just a comment on my sarcastic sense of humor and the band's inability to change up their set list to a great degree.
Date: Tues, August 30, 2011, 11:58:24 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH
@ The Dean
I hope you are right (5 or 6 from this century...although I'm not hopeful) Would love to hear Dupree & Gaslighting. I have seen 2AN 3 times and I agree it is a great live song.
Date: Tues, August 30, 2011, 11:10:28 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
amrush, thanks for sharing. Those really are fantastic pictures. Props to Elise Del Vecchio.
tommy, I would bet they play Two Against Nature (which is awesome live) and probably play a total of 5-6 songs from this century. Just a guess, of course.
Date: Tues, August 30, 2011, 10:53:42 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH
21st century night in NYC will look something like this:
Dizzy's
Royal Scam (in order)
Janie Runaway
Hey 19
Show Biz Kids
Everything Must Go
Lunch With Gina
Godwhacker
Papa Don't Take No Mess / band intro
Josie
Peg
Reelin' In The Years
Kid Charlemagne
Outro - Last Tango
Date: Tues, August 30, 2011, 02:57:12 ET
Posted by: amrush, Kansas City
Finally have those photos to share from the KC show. The one of Becker framed off by the horns is what I was jacked up about, but maybe it's not as epic as I'd originally opined.
http://www.jammagazineonline.com/cr201108-steely-dan.aspx
There's a link for the best of the rest of the photos as well. You can also apparently "become a Steel Dan FaceBook fan".
:facepalm:
Alan
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 23:49:09 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Mr. LaPage,
I'm very jealous. I haven't seen Ponty in years, but he is responsible for a couple of the best concert performances of my life. I can see how he and Clarke would mesh. I have never seen them play together, but they both really bring it live.
One of the best bass performances I ever saw live was from Ralphe Armstrong, when he played with Jean-Luc in the late 70's. The guy was a MONSTER! Haven't heard much from him lately, though. Here's a quick blurb on his start with Mahavishnu (when he was 17) and Ponty.
http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/Dave/mclaughlin/art/blazer.html
I think the best bass performances I have ever witnessed were from Rob Wasserman (when he played with David Grisman), but he's not at all Dangential.
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 23:32:22 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
Wonkavader, it was a fantastic show. I saw Return to Forever a few years ago at the Fox for the first reunion tour with Al DiMeola on guitar, but I think I enjoyed this show even more. The show had a real loose vibe and even though you would not usually think of smallish Frenchman violinist Jean Luc Ponty and huge African American bass player Stanley Clarke hitting it off musically, they meshed amazingly well, esp on Ponty's tune Renaissance. Clarke played an amazing bass solo on the huge upright bass---his fingers and thumbs are a marvel. I had dead center seats about 8 rows back, it was heaven. They encored with Clarke's "hit" Schooldays, which really kicked ass. For some reason this band does not get the due they deserve, probably because they defy easy categorization. Even friends of mine who know a lot of music seem fuzzy on Return to Forever. It was really cool to go to a music concert where the audience was almost equally black and white also; that does not happen too often.
And I am not a huge Zappa fan, but their show was very interesting and well done, some great percussion and the usual Zappa weirdness.
An amazing week of watching such great jazz rock musicians display their craft to near perfection.
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 23:22:14 ET
Posted by: The X Factor, Minneapolis
For those planning to attend the Minnesota State Fair show tomorrow and also planning on hitting up the sound check... what time are you thinking about arriving to hear it? Is there any way to get into the grandstand early or are you just planning on hanging out outside to listen? Thank you for your knowledge, o wise ones!
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 23:04:19 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
df,
Lunch is served:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs0CaocFAfs
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 22:49:23 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville
Mr. LaPage, you know I was at the St. Louis show too and wished that I could have stayed in town (on business) one more day to catch Chick Corea and his band. I bet that was an outstanding show.
I was really impressed with The Fabulous Fox Theatre, what a breathtaking relic of a music hall that is. I didn't mind the scaffolding at all. I hope to get back there again for a show someday. St. Louis has been good to me ever since I saw U2 at the Savvis Center on the "How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb" tour.
St. Louis and it's Italian eateries in the Italian neighborhood... rock!
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 22:37:37 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
Earthbound, I echo your midwest sentiments. We in the midwest have been burned on some tours with fewer shows out this way (1996, 2003, but not this year. This tour they are all over the midwest. If I had more time and money, I could have easily hit Louisville, Nashville, 2 in Chicago, St. Louis, Kansas City, 2 in Milwaukee, Omaha, Tulsa, Thackerville OK, Indianapolis and Cincinnati. That is 13 shows within a 6 hour drive of St. Louis. As it is, I went to Aja shows in Chicago and Milwaukee and the St. Louis show. Was really toying with going to KC but Return to Forever was in St. Louis the day after SD at the same venue, so I had to go see RTF. If I knew they were changing up the setlists a bit more, I would probably have seen at least 2 more shows.
What a week for cool eclectic progressive jazz funk rock I had this past week. Steely Dan on Wednesday, Return to Forever with Jean Luc Ponty and with Zappa plays Zappa opening up on Thursday, then Steely Dan again on Sat in Milwaukee. By the way, Stanley Clarke is the baddest bass player on the planet, maybe ever. Wow, is he good. Would love to someday see a Return to Forever/Steely Dan double bill where each would get 2.5 hours to play.....I can dream right?
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 22:04:00 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Oops
I see now it wasn't offered up as a choice for Rarities Night, but rather simply mentioned for the part it played as the second set opener so many years ago.
My bad.
Still i would love to hear it at any show.
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 21:28:18 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
I believe Tuzz's Shagow is a Warren Bernhardt composition and not technically a SD tune. Still, terrific tune and a fine choice.
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 21:17:56 ET
Posted by: sd,
What a nice find of SD's:
"Tuzz's Shadow"????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
VERY Zappa-ish!!!
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 21:15:00 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville
Watching the "FM" tune from last night, Milwaukee.
Brilliant stuff which transcends all static.
Can't tell who is playing guitar because there is someone's rat nest of a hair-do in the viewer frame. Dude's hair evidently got way too much static. Sit down, dude! America is trying to watch through the YouTube lens!!
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 21:09:00 ET
Posted by: df,
No Lunch w/ Gina on YouTube yet?
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 20:35:49 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF
wc fields:
and it's my favorite Becker guitar solo on "tomorrow's girls"
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 20:21:07 ET
Posted by: hoops, going to chicago blues
Thanks for doing further research and finding that, Dean.
BVack in the late 1990s, we used to give a CD of that version out for a prize. I found a stack of them in Best Buy's Budget bin under the title "Basie Boogie."
I'm cleaning out my storage locker and I will send you a copy of it, if I still have one, along with those prized I owe from 2008's C$ contest.
Best,
Jim
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 20:19:30 ET
Posted by: hoops, going to chicago blues
Thanks for doing further research and finding that, Dean.
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 20:12:57 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Nice catch, Hoops.
This version, from the Basie band w/Rushing, actually has the line:
"There's nothing in Chicago that a monkey women can do."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMzgjblVd88
And, as far as I know, I have never said anything negative about Tomorrow's Girls, which is a terrific song.
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 19:42:54 ET
Posted by: hoops, going to chicago blues
RIP, Honeyboy Edwards.
What a great life though, you know? 96 years......wow
Why does he matter? Well the tangential hops are a touch less this tour. He performed regularly with Count Basie Band's Joe Williams when he sang in "Goin' To Chicago Blues," "There's nothing in Chicago that a man like you can do..."
More than a few Danfans have cited this as the inspiration for SD's "..a monkey woman from Chicago..." bit in "Your Gold Teeth." I don't know that Donald and Walter have said as much themselves. So there.
---
Earthbound. Thanks so much for every. V. and I could each use another excellent backrub too! Good to see Chris--thanks-- and everyone else who I'm going to say wants to stay anonymous.
LR & P-G. Like I said, the tweets got all clogged and came out some superfluous tweet port something like a day later, my apols.....I was pressing my touch screen as hard as I could ;-) I didn't expect anyone catch 'em or get 'em.
Thanks for the Sunday set list too.
Jim
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 19:40:31 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains, NY
<<<Jim stepped down and took over Don's Rhodes. Fuckin' killer!>>>
Indeed.
In 1993-1994, Warren Berhardt did it for Babylon Sisters;
In 2003, Baker did it for Babylon Sisters, TOOM and Gina.
I don't think Jeff Young did it at all. I guess he and DF were confident with the Rhodes/phaser sound on the Nord Electro.
Funny that Jim Beard has the same Nord Electro, but opted to use the real deal.
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 19:10:46 ET
Posted by: Earthbound, Home At Last
Dear Hotties & Generousmen,
I speak for maybe 250,000 Danfans throughout the Midwest: We were spoiled.
Never before has the band hit so many venues in such a tight grouping
for us semi-landlocked types. In five weeks, several of us saw five shows,
which could have easily been 10-11 within a 4hr drive of each other.
Thanks, Walt & Don, for a GREAT tour this year!!
Sadly, NYC just ain't in the cards for my wife and me, ut I'll be anxious for the
full reports.
So, I did obtain the MILW Saturday setlist from the SB man, here ya go:
Dizzy's Bidness - Carolyn "puts the needle on da record"
------------
Black Cow
Aja
Deacon Blues (Flip Album)
Peg
Home At Last
I Got The News
Josie
------------
Your Gold Teeth
Black Friday
Hey Nineteen
------------
Lunch With Gina
------------
Time Out Of Mind
Godwhacker
Show Biz Kids
Dirty Work (feat. The Embassy Brats)
-----------
Papa Don't Take No Mess (Intros)
My Old School
Bodhisattva
Reelin' In The Years
-----------
Kid Charlemagne
-----------
The Untouchables Theme
Some items of note...
This arrangement of Home At Last is heavy duty.
The horn section had a field day. When they replayed it on Sunday night,
Donald laid down a beautiful, cascading intro to it. He also took another
lengthy solo to lead-in to Do It Again on Sunday. Very nice. He was in a
mood.
One can never get enough of I Got the News.
Picture YGT, right? Can you believe it clocked in at over 9min30sec??
On Lunch With Gina, Fagen stood, with Melodica, and Jim stepped down
and took over Don's Rhodes. Fuckin' killer!
Walt's fretwork was solid, and then you gots Herington. Wow.
Something needs to be said about Washington groovin' with Beard too.
This rhythm section is incredible - spend the time to monitor Freddie,
Jim & Keith. It's superlative.
The Brats: Fuck me to tears if every audience member isn't hard, wet or
at least mezmorized by this trio, for the duration. Yowza!!
I'll text Kid Clean to get the Sunday setlist posted...
All for now, love everyone,
Earthbound Keith
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 19:09:29 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville
I'm jealous. Milwaukee got to hear FM. Great song in a live setting.
Not static at all !!
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 19:05:37 ET
Posted by: w c fields, don't like my song!
hey dean, i don't care what you say, tomorrow's girls is one of the best songs ever written!
W
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 19:03:53 ET
Posted by: Tweeting collected, from @dandomdotcom
Here's the Milwaukee setlist as tweeted on dandomdotcom. Please decipher as neccesary
28 Aug
dandomdotcom Dandom.com
~~~~begin show atilwaukee----
Intro,
Aja album
Gold teeth
Blk Fri.
Hey 19
Gina
TOOm.
Godwhak.
Sho biz kids.
Dirty work.
Papa mess.
Bodhi.
School.
Reelin72.
KidC.
Untouchables
----end show about 2.5 hrs---
/PGE
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 18:47:12 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Been spending the day on tour with Steely Dan...via You Tube.
Anyone see this one? I never have.
The Last Mall from 2003, OC Fairgrounds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSm5Bo5nxQ&feature=related
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 18:21:21 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Sorry we missed your tweets Hoops.
But it said nothing here on the Blue
about it.
Can anyone help Johnny and Hoops out?
Security Joan,
You seem quite the groupie this
summer! ;O)
Really racking up those miles.
Good for you. Is there one
song that you have been chasing
this summer that you have not heard
yet?
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 18:08:48 ET
Posted by: Johnny, A bunker filled with sand
I was at the Milwaukee show Sunday night. Since no one else has posted a setlist, here's my best attempt. I know I have all the right songs, but I almost certainly have gotten the order mixed up. Perhaps someone else can help with the sequence.
Your Gold Teeth
Aja
Hey Nineteen
Time Out of Mind
Black Friday
Godwhacker
Bodhisattva
FM
Show Biz Kids
Home at Last
Dirty Work
Babylon Sisters
Do It Again
Josie
My Old School
Peg
Reelin' in the Years
Kid Charlemagne
(Please note that I include only the Dan songs on here, not the filler material.)
Both shows (I was there Saturday too) were performed immaculately. Jon Herington and Keith Carlock are machines! These are the second and third times I have seen these two play, and I still think Jon has 7 fingers on his left hand and Keith must have at least 3 legs and 4 arms! While any Steely Dan concert is incredible to see (and last night was no exception), I was disappointed at the lack of difference between the two nights. From Saturday's to Sunday's setlist, the only differences were dropping Black Cow, Deacon Blues, I Got the News, and Lunch with Gina in favor of FM, Babylon Sisters, and Do It Again. The other 15 songs were played both nights. Sure, I know tour rehearsal is a pain, but at least a LITTLE more divergence between "Aja night" and "favorites night" would be nice. (Also, after three SD shows, i would have thought I would have at least ONE song from Pretzel Logic, but no. Strange.)
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 17:46:04 ET
Posted by: Prague Polo, Deep in the heart of Europe
The number one "rarity" I would love to hear that no one has mentioned in their lists thus far: Fire in the Hole. A stabbing piano attack accompanied by Donald's surly, cryptic and acerbic lyric line. Tremendous!
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 16:57:09 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
My rarities dreamlist would include:
Midnight Cruiser
Razor Boy (has that song ever been played live? or since 1993? Maybe my #1 request)
Boston Rag
Pearl of the Quarter
Night By Night
Any Major Dude
Pretzel Logic
Bad Sneakers
Daddy Don't Live in NYC (not sung by Becker)
Doctor Wu (my #1A request)
Everyone's Gone to the Movies (not sung by Becker)
Chain Lightning
Any World
Caves of Altamira
Don't Take Me Alive
The Royal Scam
Glamour Profession
Gaucho (not sung by Becker)
Here at the Western World
Jack of Speed
West of Hollywood
I was surprised by how few of the CBAT songs I would consider "must hear rarities". Obviously, I love the Katy Lied album, and if I hadn't already heard the whole Royal Scam album a few years ago, there would be more from that album on the list.
I would be deeply disappointed if they did not do these songs at a minimum on rarities night (realizing of course they won't do all these tunes):
Razor Boy
Boston Rag
Pearl of the Quarter
Any Major Dude
Pretzel Logic
Bad Sneakers
Doctor Wu
Everyone's Gone to the Movies
Chain Lightning
Don't Take me Alive
The Royal Scam
Gaucho
Here at the Western World
Those are the essentials in my book.....
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 16:18:27 ET
Posted by: Richard Aylward, Wisconsin
Wow LP - that was 2009. Time flys. Felt like just last year to me. I am refering to the '09 Aja show. (My wifes initials are AJA and had to get a pic of her under the marquee.) That's the show I felt was a 10/10. Sorry. We sat in "S" I believe on the left floor on Sat and F upstairs on Sunday - front row of the "second level" upstairs. Pretty much in a line with Fagen and a good view of the Brats. (Which Fagen pronounced like in bratwurst FBO the cheeseheads.)
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 16:06:29 ET
Posted by: Richard Aylward, Wisconsin
I may be a little harsh in my previous post calling the Milwaukee shows 4/10 and 6/10 as my problem was mostly sound related. That group of musicians on the Riverside stage - Brats and all - are all ELEVENS. I've never felt like they haven't given the audience 200%. I just want to be clear on that aspect...Shanti Cubed.
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 15:59:32 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
Hoops, I am like you, I wait for songs to end if I have to get up for some reason. I am always amazed at concerts how people don't think of that and try to barge in the middle of a row right smack dab in the middle of the song. The great thing about going to multi SD shows is that I can time my beer runs, so in the Milwaukee show I only missed a snippet of Becker's Nineteen rap and a few minutes of the band intros, having timed it so no music was missed.
I agree that Milwaukee show from a performance perspective was one of the best I have seen, possibly only topped by the 2000 show I saw at the AllState Arena (Rosemount) in Chicago where they opened up with the Boston Rag and they did Night by Night, Daddy Don't Live and a host of other great tunes; and the Royal Scam show in the Chicago Theater in 2009.
Re Ravinia, I am surprised you didn't hear the horns like I did, that was the thing that most struck me about the sound---if anything, I didn't hear as much bass as I would like. I was literally dead center on the aisle though, but at the very back of the pavilion, so maybe the sound was optimized for being back there since there was a whole park full of people behind us.
Re the post below:
I thought the sound was fantastic from my 5th row seat in Milwaukee, where were you sitting?
Also, didn't Dan do the album shows in Chicago in 2009 not 2010?
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 15:57:08 ET
Posted by: Brian Pearson, Chicago Burbs
Indeed "Bodhissattva" was played, I missed it in the original posting and yeah the show was one of their best! And yup you're right, August of 93 was the 1st of 31 shows. I obviously lost track of time...
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 15:55:31 ET
Posted by: Richard Aylward, Wisconsin
Attended two nights in Milwaukee at the Riverside Aug. 27 and 28 2011 with my wife and our two best friends. Wife and I also attended the Aja show in Chicago 2010. I consider that Chicago '10 show to be the second best show I have seen in my 50 years - only behind an unmatchable Pink Floyd extravaganza. In reference - where that show was a 10/10 - I felt the Milwaukee '11 shows were a 4/10 and a 6/10 respectively. The sound quality was the issue - not the performance. And much of the sound quality issues arose from excessive volume. Fagen's vox was a bit iffy to start on Saturday and generally improved throughout and was back on top on Sunday night. (He grooves and head bops so much he must be difficult to mic consistently.) The dense arrangements simply turn "mushy" at excessive volumes, IMO. We were not the only Danfans that were slightly disappointed by the sound. My only other gripe would be that, when doing a 2-night stand, I wish they would change up the setlist more. I'm happy to hear anything in that extensive songbook. Am I not a true fan if I can do without RDLTN/DIA/RITY? We left after the Kid Charlamange for the 2nd show - gotta do the gas in the car thing. I hope they didn't end up playing Fez last. I am wondering if anybody else felt the same way about the sound - because the four of us were in agreement. Anyway, we had a great time, the fans are super, and Fagen is the Man. Home at Last (Sat) Bodhisattva (Sun) were my personal favs.
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 15:42:05 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis
"Last night (08/28/11) in Milwaukee:
Aja- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLmVBDBFyag
FM- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx3Iig6mbgQ&feature=related
Well we know they played FM and Aja...two down 19 to go on the Sunday setlist
I'm going to the Minnesota State Fair show Tues and will have a setlist posted by midnight...but I may have to write it on my hand.
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 15:33:42 ET
Posted by: The X Factor, Minneapolis
Anyone have any extra tickets (good ones) that you're looking to get rid of for tomorrow night's show in Minneapolis/St. Paul? Feel free to shoot me an email if so.
Thanks!
The X Factor
Chris
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 15:30:32 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, wishing he could have been at Milwaukee Sunday night
Can't seem to find the set list for last night's show in Milwaukee...anyone? Getting a Dandom Digest together for Aug 18-29.
Best wishes and many thanks.
Jim
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 15:28:40 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, inthedarkonl.i.
Last night (08/28/11) in Milwaukee:
Aja- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLmVBDBFyag
FM- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx3Iig6mbgQ&feature=related
We don't really need to see them at this point in the game; sounds great. Can't wait.
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 15:22:08 ET
Posted by: carl,
as reported below bodisattva was played saturday , but it was played after my old school
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 14:49:02 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville
I'm thinking of changing out my back patio lights with black lights and hanging some black light posters on the inside of the fence that envelops my patio. Anyone have an Elvis or leopard poster they can part with?
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 14:48:40 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick
I was about 12 rows back the whole show.
I only condone dancing not interrupting--I know some consider the first a subset of the second and thus my statement could seem contradictory to some.
I'm the guy who, if I really must run to the restroom during the show, will wait at the rear exit so I can return between songs rather then interrupt people in my row during a song. That said, I was seated on the aisle Saturday night and I didn't even think about missing an instant of the great show.
I don't know if I'm a good person to ask about horns at Ravinia. Scroll down a bit and you will see that where I was seated in Ravinia, Friday night it was such that I could barely hear the horns for most of the show. I was about 8 rows from the back and off to one side.
I really think Saturday night's show in Milwaukee was one of the best SD shows I have heard; definitely the best of the three I attended. Please adjust my perceptions based on my vantage.
Best,
Jim
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 14:38:46 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
edit previous post---Sat night, not Fri night
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 14:35:23 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
By the way, now that I know I wasn't hearing things and they did play Bodhi on Friday night in Mil, I guess that does make that show the longest of the tour. Not sure why we got an extra tune, but I will take it. Maybe Fagen appreciate all the attentive 50 something single males in the audience listening so carefully and rewarded us with a bonus. (wink). For the record, I haven't lived in my parent's basement since I was 30, and I haven't had a black light since I was 41.
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 14:28:23 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
Hey Hoops, as long as you weren't the couple next to me who scavenged for empty seats about halfway through the show and found the empty ones next to me in Row 5 and proceeded to talk and make out during the rest of the show, and who obviously didn't recognize any of the non hit tunes, its all cool. There's nothing worse than ditzy gals who have no clue about the music but are just there for the "party" and the "hits" and wouldn't know a Gold Teeth from a Show Biz Kid. For the record, I am one of those 50 something guys who did go to that show alone, but I did get up for the last few tunes. As you can see from my review, I was surprised at the Milwaukee crowd for not getting a little looser for those songs at the end.
You went to the Ravinia Aja show too? So did I. How would you compare the shows? I was very impressed with the sound at Ravinia, the horns sounded fantastic. Riverside was great too, but I was 5th row at Riverside and in the dead center at the back of the Pavilion for Ravinia, right next to the lighting booth.
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 14:15:58 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, been offline since Saturday evening.
I tweeted the Saturday Milwaukee Set list @DandomDOTcom The problem was that the signal was poor in theatre, so the tweets all arrived much later yesterday.
Yes, Bodhi was played.
It was an amazing show. It further underscored how this tour is all about the playing, the arrangements, and spots for solos.
Remember not to simply look at set lists and subconsciously think they are just playing the original recordings directly off the CDs. These songs are really reinvented and played better than ever.
It was a perfect show and it was the best so far--my previous shows were Indy and Friday at Ravinia. For the record, please attend as many as you can. I'd go to more if I could.
If I had any complaints it was a minor one--the audience demographics appeared to lean heavier than usual towards single, 50-something males who have spent the last 30 years listening to Aja over and over on their hairy-o stereos in their black-lit postered bedrooms in their parents house. Not any of my business except they refused to get out of their seats even during the danceable songs near the end. Yes, that was my girlfriend and I who blocked your view dancing like fools during My Old School, Bodhisattva, Reelin' and Kid C. Half-sorry, but not. ;-)
Also, it was the first time I heard them play the Untouchables theme. You know, I still watch the Untouchables on MeTV about 2-3 times per week and I didn't recognize it when they played it! I chalk my bad ear up to the TV series show being broadcast in Mono.
Bests,
Jim
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 12:44:45 ET
Posted by: Really, I was
Bodhisattva was played Sat night -
it took me by the hand.
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 10:09:03 ET
Posted by: I was, there
Joan -
I'm sure the complaints came from setlists randomly appearing in
the appetizer section of a particular English pub in the area.
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 10:03:32 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
I had no problem getting the setlist sheet for the St. Louis show at the Fox. Struck out in Chicago and Milwaukee (people beat me to them). Can someone who went to the Milwaukee show Sun night post the setlist and we also need someone to clear up whether Bodhisattva was played Sat night.
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 09:49:18 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
DEACON BLUES 16 I will take a bite of the apple since nobody else
semms willing!! Without a doubt my 2 favorite openings are
#1 ROYAL SCAM-BAD SNEAKERS-AJA instrumental and a close #2
the THE FEZ-ROYAL SCAM 2008 OPENING, I believe the afforementioned
opening was from 1993??? FOOTNOTE: In regards to the 2008 opening
I kinda felt bad for Michael when he comes center stage to do his
thing during Royal Scam at the end of his solo the place goes crazy
but alas its for Donald and Walter coming on stage!!! He can always
imagine it is for him!!! Done babbling, I promise!!!
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 09:28:02 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
Lurker Ray my aplogies about L.A. I am thrilled to hear they
sold out the greek every night!! I have just kinda noticed
a trend the last several tours where sell-outs and crowd
enthusiasm seems to be in rather unexpected places!! But
what the hell do I know!!! One thing I do know is in approxamtly
10 days I will be seeing the best damn band in the land!!!!
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 09:22:24 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Security Joan,
Of course it's Cynthia Calhoun. Thanks for the correction.
The worst part of it is, this is a recurring mistake for me.
Don't get me wrong, Mizelle and Cat bring a bit more vocal power to the band (and are quite attractive in their own right). But Victoria and CC (along with Carolyn) were a very striking little choir.
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 09:12:59 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis
I was able to get my only set list at the Aja Night Minneapolis show in 2009. As we were walking out I looked over at the soundboard and they had one sitting on the table. I leaned in and asked if I could have it and they said sure. I was very excited and my friend thought I was a goofball.
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 08:20:39 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains, NY
Joan: Unlike many bands, Steely Dan is notorious for instructing their crew not to give out setlist sheets. I have tried on a few occasions. I find their keyboard tech, some stout white-haired guy with a napoleon complex, to particularly be a prick about this.
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 03:15:16 ET
Posted by: security Joan, also Milwaukee, for now
I'm curious to know if anyone else has run into this situation: I've never before had a problem w. procuring a setlist from the crew right after a show, but at the Riverside Theater in Milwaukee tonight, they shooed anyone away, claiming "we had complaints last night'(?!?) Who and what on earth would complain about people getting setlists! I'm thinking (hoping) it's a venue idiosyncrasy.
Date: Mon, August 29, 2011, 03:08:32 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Milwaukee, for now
Dean - I do believe that the singer you are referencing w.curly hair in 2VN DVD is actually Cynthia Calhoun... (damn those similar first names!)
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 22:55:49 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
WonkaVader,
I got some good news for you and some bad news. Michael Leonhart (trumpet with SD) is Carolyn's brother. But Carolyn is married to a horn player. This one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Escoffery
I think most of the male Dan fans (and perhaps a sizable chunk of the female fans) have a crush on Carolyn. Beautiful and talented. Plus she clearly has taste. I also thought Cindy Mizelle was a total babe back when she was wearing her hair really curly. And as I have a thing for redheads, Victoria Cave really did it for me, too. You can see all three together on the 2vN DVD. Here's a taste:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd_1NYc11u0
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 22:44:47 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville
For those very very few who do not know who the babe-o-licious singer Carolyn Leonhart, here is a photo. Give her a search within YouTube and you will see some of her own solo efforts as a jazz singer.
I kid around about how beautiful she is, but she is mesmerizing when you have looks like that, a killer bod, and the way she dances. SD needs to give her and the Brats a raise! They are doing there job quite well and they are a crowd favorite.
Yes, they do a fantastic job with "Dirty Work".
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_j_ppvUrgG0A/SVP6B8PaHlI/AAAAAAAABFY/a147IS9bsaw/s320/A-162387-1159124849.jpeg
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 22:39:42 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville
Ehhhh... that MTV crowd wouldn't know good talent if it sonically beat them over the head till their ears bled. Today's "music" is not even music. I tell my 11 year old if it doesn't have "real" drums (not a drum loop on computer), a bass player, guitarist, keyboard player (not programmed) as a bonus, and a singer with unaltered vocals - then you ain't listening to real music!
Thanks for the reviews on Milwaukee as well as that latest review on St. Louis show. That was an entertaining read.
Hey, I just noticed that there is a Leonhart gent in the brass section. I hope that is not to suggest that our honey, Carolyn, is married to a horn player! God forbid! LOL
I'm in love and I want the whole world to know. Maybe Johnny Mathis can sing a ballad for Carolyn and myself. Bwahahaha!
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 22:05:41 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
Here is a review of the St. Louis show from the Riverfront Times, the younger hipper weekly newspaper in St. Louis. The Dan draws praise even as he snickers at the middle aged couples dancing in the aisles:
Steely Dan
Fabulous Fox Theatre
August 24, 2011
As a default, Walter Becker looks like he just ate something sour. A response to the Internet age, perhaps, where you get to be a famous band through luck and novelty and a Twitter-length back-story. He doesn't say much early on at Steely Dan's nearly-sold-out show at the Fabulous Fox until halfway through "Hey Nineteen," when he steps up to the microphone.
"We're still in the broad shank of summer," he begins, grinning. The full moon, low in the sky, is like a rotting melon, he continues, and in these troubled times of broadband, hyperspeed media, "you take your amusements where you get them. If you find music you love, you go to it." He makes the assumption that is what brings us here tonight, and a resounding, impossible-to-fake cheer rises in the old theater. "So you bliss out on the music," he says, then he describes the drive home, back to life, back to your "rathole." It's nothing personal -- he feels the same way about his hotel. "Rathole," is just real life in 2011. We're all in it. You stop on the way home, he imagines, for a little something to drink with your loved one. You take it out of the bag, and what did you buy, he wonders.
We all know the answer. It wasn't gin, he says, it wasn't Scotch or brandy or rubbing alcohol or any of those. "You bought some lightning! You bought a bottle of magic from south of the border!" he cries. "What did you buy!" and he steps away from the mic as the lights come up on the trio of backup vocalists, the Embassy Brats, as they sing, "The Cuuervo Gold! The fine Co-lumbian! Make toooonight a wonderful thiiiing." Say it again.
Steely Dan's commitments are not difficult to ascertain. They never have been: This is a duo that seeks total perfection, that famously labored over recordings and didn't tour for years because of the risk of ruining that spotless music Becker and his partner Donald Fagen worked so insanely hard to achieve.
The band the two tour with today, the Miles High Big Band featuring the Embassy Brats, is capable of damn near perfection. There are professional symphony orchestras that hit more wrong notes and don't mesh as well as this group. Each of them is beyond technical ability; the accents and soft harmony are as impressive as the jazz-inflected solos. You forget, until you see Steely Dan live, how challenging and intricate its music is. It's easy to do because everything is wound together so tightly as to enter your brain like Vaseline.
Maybe this is not your bag -- maybe you like your music to sting you out of your routine or maybe you want it to rip into your emotions or turn you on. But if it's endless aural bliss you seek, it's tough to beat Steely Dan.
Last night's set featured the expected hits ("Peg," "Deacon Blues," "Aja," the latter of which received the first of many standing ovations. You will note it was three songs in.) and some surprising gems ("Bodhisattva" and the Brats filling in for David Palmer on "Dirty Work" were especially rewarding).
The crowd, admittedly not the hippest or youngest, was nevertheless genuinely ecstatic. The cheers were not perfunctory -- it was honest appreciation pouring out of these thousands. And if there were a few dozers down in front, I will choose to believe even they were satisfied, lifted literally out of consciousness by the band. It's not often that you can describe a band rendering parts of its audience comatose as a success, but Steely Dan's music is hypnotic; on more than one occasion I forgot to write down the name of a song in my set list until it was nearly over because I was so thoroughly removed from reality.
The show's ends were of particular note: The band played Duke Ellington's "East St. Louis Toodle-Oo" as an intro. The song also appeared on Steely Dan's Pretzel Logic, but it was clearly done as a nod to the setting -- it was the one variance to the Shuffle Diplomacy Tour's set list. And the encore, "Kid Charlemagne," induced a surreal dance party, with middle-aged couples bum rushing the aisles and the whole packed theater on its feet.
Critic's Notebook:
Personal Bias: Steely Dan is my catnip, and no, my dad never indoctrinated me with it as I was growing up.
Overheard: "That was some good drumming," in reference to Keith Carlock, as we filed out into the scaffolding in the Fox's lobby. Why yes, it was. As Becker said during the introductions, "That's why he's on all the magazine covers." The full roster of the Miles High Big Band:
Jim Beard [Keyboards: '08 '09, '11]
Keith Carlock [Drums: '03- '11]
Jon Herington [Guitar: '00-'11]
Carolyn Leonhart-Escoffery [B. Vocals: '00-'11]
Michael Leonhart [Trumpet, Keys: '00-' '11
Cindy Mizelle [B. Vocals: '00-'08, '11]
Jim Pugh [Trombone: '00-'11]
Roger Rosenberg [Baritone Saxophone: '06-'11]
Catherine Russell [B. Vocals: '08, '09, '11]
Freddie Washington [Bass: '06-'11]
Walt Weiskopf [Saxophone: '03-'11]
here is the link:
http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/rftmusic/2011/08/steely_dan_fox_review_setlist.php
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the writer is right---the applause and ovations were genunine and many, and people were a lot looser and "into" the songs esp at the end than they were in Milwaukee for some reason, where it was more of a seated listening crowd
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 21:46:45 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
Brian Pearson, you are obviously a diehard Dan fan, but 25 years of seeing them? They started touring again in 1993 right? That is 18 years, unless you were secretly seeing them playing back in the mid 80s, in which case I am pissed I missed those tours......
I could have sworn they played Bodhisattva (which I always misspell), but maybe seeing 3 shows in 2 weeks is playing with my memory. I also might have that order wrong, they may have played it right after Show Biz Kids. Someone else who was at the Milwaukee show, help us out.
Watching a bit of the MTV awards right now just to see what is going on with the MTV generation, and I got to thinking, how weird would it be if Steely Dan opened up the MTV awards, and wouldn't you give anything ot see the blank looks on the faces of the 20 somethings if that happened?
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 21:34:28 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Brian Pearson & Mr. LaPage,
Thanks for the reports & setlist!
But can you settle the dispute?
Was Bodhisattva played or not?
That puts Milwaukee at 22 tunes the
longest of the tour if correct.
So glad to hear that "The Untouchables"
theme is back in! Just got an email
a dear friend who said, "Holy shit are
they actually reading this forum?"
Who knows?
Glad to hear that Donald's voice is improving
since the St Louis reports.
"I was, there" was NOT there obviously.
But I heard his mama was! oh snap.
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 21:11:26 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
Brian Pearson, SD played Bodhissattva didn't they? Or am I thinking of the St Louis show I saw earlier this week?
By the way, I guess you can't edit posts, in my last one it should read "I Got the News" is my LEAST favorite Aja tune, not last.
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 21:06:30 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den
Saw my 3rd show of the tour in Milwaukee Sat night at the old Riverside Theater. Had seen the "Aja" show at the Ravinia in Chicago, saw the general hits show at the Fox in St. Louis, and I had to get more so I drove up to Milwaukee for another Aja fix. I had a 5th row seat which provided further incentive to make the 6 hour trek. I've seen shows at the Pabst but this is the first time I have been to the Riverside. Nice old theater,reminds me of the places I saw concerts at in the 70s. The seats are right up against the stage, so you are right there from the 5th row, the second best seat I have ever had at a SD show (had one of the first few rows at the Rosemount in Chicago for the 2000 tour).
I literally arrived at the theater at 8:40, running late, traffic, construction, driving through Chicago. Talk about timing. Just enough time to grab a couple of Fat Tire brewskis and find my seat. Wow, right in front of the horn section, stage no more than 15-20 feet away. As the opening instrumental Dizzys' Bidness ended, I noticed 4 seats in my row empty from the aisle seat in. Since I was sitting between 2 couples, I figured I would "spread out" to an empty seat near the dead center aisle at the end of my row until kicked out. Much to my shock, these 5th row aisle seats went unused all night, and I was loving the fact that I was not squeezed inbetween people, and I had a direct center stage view----wow.
Maybe because I went to this one alone, as opposed to the other shows where I was with friends, but seeing the show solo made me concentrate just on the music more and I really got into the nuances of the show. Also being that close, you really get to see details. Of course, found myself staring at the Brats a lot being that close. Tried not to look to closely at Fagen's open mouth when he was singing. Enjoyed Becker's laid back soloing a bit more up close, and most of all, the prime location really allowed me to milk in and absorb the great horn soloing. Great sound all night except for a few guitar glitches.
No real big setlist surprises; from memory:
Dizzy's Bidness
Black Cow
Aja
Deacon Blues
Peg
Home at Last
I Got the News
Josie
Your Gold Teeth
Black Friday
Hey Nineteen (Becker story)
Lunch With Gina
Time Out of Mind
Godwhacker
Show Biz Kids
Dirty Work
Papa Don't Take No Mess (band intros)
Bodhissattva
My Old School
Reelin' in the Years
Encore:
Kid Charlemagne
Untouchables Theme
Fagen's voice was good, better than St. Louis where it sounded a little strained.
I had hoped for a few different tunes than I had heard in Chicago and St Louis, but it was pretty much the same show as Chicago with just a few differences. I am jealous that Kansas City got Pretzel Logic. I thought they might mix it up more since 4 shows in Milwaukee and Chicago are going to attract some of the same people.
For some reason, my last favorite song in Aja, I Got the News, sounded really funky and jazzy and I really "noticed" it this time. Home at Last was sublime. Your Gold Teeth was virtually perfect. Really like Godwhacker more and more. Show Biz Kids really kicked ass, very funky. It was like we got the Aja AND the Countdown albums with the addition of Bodhissattva.
One thing I found curious, although the crowd was enthusiastic, there was a reluctance to stand for the final "crowd favorite songs". Some stood, and people near me kind of grumbled and many stayed seated during Old School, which brought EVERYONE up in Chicago and St Louis.
Also, curiously in Milwaukee I did not smell one whiff of any fine Columbian, whereas in St Louis I was getting contact highs all over the place. And the St Louis show was on a Wednesday night. The crowd at Milwaukee was mostly very attentive and quiet (of course, I was up front and close, so I can only speak of nearby). In Chicago, the crowd was much chattier, especially with the picnic people in the back on the lawn.
All in all, a fantastic and memorable show, made even better with the great seat and fantastic close center view.
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 20:44:12 ET
Posted by: Brian Pearson, Chicago burbs
Yes, I skipped the wine & cheese, Biff & Muffy crowd at Ravinia and made the trip to Milwaukee. So well worth it. It always seems like they love this venue and they always turn it up a notch when they hit the Riverside.
Sam Yahal and his trio were good as usual, some of the songs they played were also performed live in 2009 but again he and his mates were quite good and they played 5 songs, lasting 25-30 mins.
As for Donald & Walter, the SD Orchestra & The Embassy Brats...
Intro: Dizzy's Bidness
Black Cow
Aja
Deacon Blues
Peg
Home at Last
I Got the News
Josie
Your Gold Teeth
Black Friday
Hey Nineteen (hilarious Walter bit talking about never being able to stay at a place called the Pfister Hotel)
Lunch With Gina
Time Out of Mind
Godwhacker
Show Biz Kids
Dirty Work
Papa Don't Take No Mess (band intro's with Walter as emcee)
My Old School
Reelin' in the Years
Encore:
Kid Charlemagne
Outro: Untouchables Theme
I've seen a good amount of SD shows in the last 25 years and this one ranked right up there. Donald's vocals were dead on, Carlock just gets better (if that's possible) , Freddy laid the groove down, horn section was bright and tight (great revamped version of "Home At Last"), Herrington nailed all the solo's, not emulating Larry or Elliot but doing it his way...which is very tasty. Not sure what was going on earlier but he seemed to be having issues with his amp or his cords? The "EB's" were just fantastic. Carolyn, Cindi & Catherine are true treasures and such a great addition to this band. They sing their butts off, add so much spark and energy to the live shows and they are great cheerleaders to get the crowd going. Even Donald is showing a lot of fire lately, leading the band with his Ray Charles grimaces and Richard Nixon close out the show hand gestures. It's obvious that stage fright has come and gone. Walter was typical Walter, soloing on all the classics, ripping off tasty riffs throughout the show and how can one forget his sardonic wit. Show was easily 2 and a half hours. 5 stars all the way kids!
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 19:17:25 ET
Posted by: I was, there
but sadly, I'm not from the West Coast, so my report and setlist info are MIA.
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 17:59:47 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville
I don't know why I am so tickled by that one phrase from "Kid Charlemagne", perhaps I am showing my immaturity. But I love the mention that it gets in the St. Louis Today review:
excerpt:
The show ended with a flurry of hits, including razor-sharp readings of "Josie," "Peg," "My Old School" and "Reelin' in the Years," capped by an encore of "Kid Charlemagne." If you separate out a line of from that song -- "Is there gas in the car?" -- using it to wonder about the continued prowess of Steely Dan as a live act, its rejoinder provides an accurate assessment: "Yes, there's gas in the car."
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 17:58:22 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
To be fair, here's one with a bit more of Zingg:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpP6Rop17rI
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 17:56:21 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Still no setlist or more reports
from Milwaukee?
That's odd. I would have thought
that more people from the Chicago
area would have headed to these
shows and perhaps even skipped
Ravinia.
But then again sadly, many reports
and setlists have been late or
MIA ever since the tour left the
West Coast this year.
Speaking of Boz Scaggs Live DVD's,
I sure as hell wish they would release
that 1976 New Years Eve show at the
Paramount with Jeff Porcaro!
I've seen the whole show on VHS.
What's the wait?!
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 17:53:53 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
I suppose the recent discussion of Drew Zing (and the fact that he has a short tasty solo at the end of this song) is excuse enough to share this video for all you guitar freaks out there. My advice: Turn it UP!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It1HZibTdgI
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 17:22:44 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY
Drew Zingg showed up on Boz Scaggs' "Greatest Hits Live" DVD a few years back and sounded great. His soloing on Loan Me A Dime alone is worth the price of admission. (Well, that and Jim Cox's killer B3 solo in that song too!)
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 17:11:57 ET
Posted by: dhh8690, Milwaukee first night
Hello Dan fans: Just a few comments from the 6th row of Sat nite at Milwaukee. Donald sounded great. No complaints. Voice was strong, he hit the notes and he sang the lyrics. John H. had what apparently were "issues" with his guitar during Aja and finally got it going later in the show. Walter was did pretty well especially after he got going. Was impressed with the length of this show. They played for 2 hours and 35 minutes. Got on a 8:50 p.m. and ended at 11:25 pm.Dont recall them playing that long in the 7 or 8 shows that I saw before. Anyway, enjoy all.
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 16:30:18 ET
Posted by: Updraught, Philly Area
Drew Zingg has played many dates with Boz Scaggs over the years, still going strong and is planning his first solo album.
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 16:18:07 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville
Wu, agreed, that is odd that FM has been dropped like a steaming hot beaker in the lab.
Not sure why as it was easily one of the best songs played in 1993 when I saw the Dan's first tour in forever, Riverbend (Cincy).
I believe that FM was the last song before the encore, and Walter was playing the guitar fade-out at the end of the song, while he walked off the stage. What a show that was. I believe that Bob Sheppard was the band leader and lead sax on that tour. A guitar virtuoso whom I had never heard of, Drew Zingg, dazzled the crowd.
Not sure what planet Zingg came from, but he apparently has gone back to the Space Station since I have not heard his name since. Dude had great mastery of the axe.
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 13:40:21 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
No worries, WonkaVader. Speaking of FM, though... they have really dropped that song hard from the setlist for the last 2 tours. I never really realized that. It was always in the set from 2006-2008. I wonder what made them cut it to only a few shows a tour.
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 13:39:24 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
No worries, WonkaVader. Speaking of FM, though... they have really dropped that song hard from the setlist for the last 2 tours. I never really realized that. It was always in the set from 2006-2008. I wonder what made them cut it to only a few shows a tour.
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 12:22:18 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH
Who's got the set list for the first night in Milwaukee?
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 12:08:42 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Young Wu:
Hopefully, they will play a few more songs and not necessarily play all of those hits. So you listed the following hits that they probably will play:
- Reelin' in the Years
- Bodhisattva
- My Old School
- Black Friday
- Aja
- Peg
- Josie
- Hey Nineteen
While the following aren't hits, I think you could add them to this list, as they've been played at almost every show this tour:
- Time Out of Mind
- Show Biz Kids
- Your Gold Teeth
However, even after adding those, I think the only 100%, absolute guarantees are Peg, Josie, Hey Nineteen, and Reelin' in the Years. I'll add My Old School just to be conservative. With the 9 Royal Scam songs, those 5 put us at 14, meaning 5 potential 21st century songs if we're going with your assumption that they'll play 19 SD songs. I would guess they'd be Godwhacker, Everything Must Go, Lunch with Gina, Janie Runaway, and Two Against Nature. Let's say they play another 21st century song instead of My Old School. I think the best bets for the 6th song might be: Cousin Dupree, Jack of Speed, Pixeleen, or Slang of Ages. Of course, they could play an even longer setlist and add more 21st century songs. Or they could barely play any 21st century songs and choose from the remaining list of hits instead, as you implied. It will be interesting to see what they do, so even though it's very unlikely I'll attend any New York shows, I'll be kind of living vicariously through setlist postings and whatever recordings manage to show up afterwards.
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 12:01:43 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, L
Wu, it's all good, sorry if I misunderstood your point earlier. I concur that it is odd to not have more recent songs if that is the theme of the show.
I personally was surprised to see how heavily SD is loading up songs from "Aja" in their song list. I enjoyed it and if it was Aja night, I would enjoy it. But some nights I have noted a curious mix of songs.
Alas, it is good that they switch things up for those who go to multiple shows. Like I said, I saw Louisville and St. Louis shows and thoroughly enjoyed both shows, but I preferred the Ville's song list more. But that didn't take away from the St. Louis experience.
Gimme some FM and Third World Man and Dr. Wu!
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 11:49:06 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
WonkaVader... I wasn't complaining about anything. As crazy as it sounds, people can discuss or explain something without complaining. Although I guess some people don't realize that.
I'm not going to the shows, so I don't really care about what they well play. Plus, The Royal Scam might just be my favorite album of all time, so, once again, no reason to complain.
But, dude, there is something a little off about originally labeling the show "21st Century" and realistically having maybe 3 songs played from this last decade... no?
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 10:39:30 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville
Answering, thanks for the link. I was not aware that Fagen did a recording of "Confide In Me". I must say that I like the Manhattan Transfer's production and arrangement a lot better and insist it would be a killer song live in concert.
Whoever was complaining about the Royal Scam show and what would be the ten remaining songs... you listed 8 songs that would surely be played, leaving only two other songs.
If I heard The Royal Scam album and those additional 8 songs, I would be in Seventh Heaven at that point and the last two songs could be sung by Walter a cappella and I wouldn't care!
I guess people have different tastes. I saw that Royal Scam was the opening song for a show back in 2008 (somewhere in Michigan) and I would love to see that as opposed to opening with YGT.
But I don't get heartbroken over set lists and song decisions or arrangements. Just go to a show and see the Dan while you can and ENJOY YOURSELF. These guys are musical geniuses and we will never see the likes of them again. Listen with a gushing full glass of whatever and enjoy the moment, my friends!
Rock on,
Wonka
Date: Sun, August 28, 2011, 00:00:13 ET
Posted by: Little Amy kahn, Florida room
Power out here and it's pitch black. But my place is kind of comfortable in a storm. Safe and warm.
Date: Sat, August 27, 2011, 18:11:27 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu - The Place To Be In This Heat
SoCAL IN-N-OUT
If you are hungry, there is one
Double-Double left in the bag in the den.
Dragged through the garden.
Looking forward to the reports from
Milwaukee. Sounds like another great
Double-Double!
Speaking of Milwaukee and food, if you
are traveling in the area this weekend,
don't miss a chance to dine at The Shanty.
Killer steaks at a great price and where
else can you get a to-die-for filet mignon
topped with conch meat this side of the
Bahamas? All for $25?
And if any "Tree Huggers" out there are
considering selling their tickets because
of those murderers at "Gibson", from what
we heard about St Louis & Kansas City, you
will have no problem getting your money back.
Ebony is not Ivory.
But then again that sounds like something
Glenn Beck might say.
Enjoy and have a safe & "dry" weekend if possible.
Date: Sat, August 27, 2011, 17:35:19 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Re: Green Notes
PGE,
Miles Davis and Bill Evans recorded "Blue In Green" as early as 1959 ... ;0)
Date: Sat, August 27, 2011, 13:33:16 ET
Posted by: peteb, UK
@amrush,
"getting every act I ever played with to devote energy to mixing up showlists was always the toughest mountain I ever had to climb as a musician."
- yes, that was my experience too. Seems like opening up to a bit of risk-taking and unknown territory is something your average musician doesn't really like.
Let's face it, as a race we tend to be borderline Asperger's syndrome.
Often, when you interact with a musician, you have to go into their world, because they are not going to come out to you.
Maybe the reason for the grand extroversion and genuine exploration of rock acts in the 60's and 70's was that music seemed to contain so much more of the wider world in those days.
These days authentic musical/lyrical originality seems to be a far more intimate, "quieter" affair. Naturally, "Circus Money" leaps to mind. I'd be interested to hear further recommendations from anyone who follows this train of thought!
Date: Sat, August 27, 2011, 12:35:30 ET
Posted by: PGE, @Lutz
I've heard of "blue notes", but are we going to see shows and recordings proudly announcing "green notes" as of now?
Oh. And I expect EXTRA! EXTRA! two posts down to only attend the show if he (she?) scores a free ticket. And then hang around the concession stand talking until Hey Nineteen or My Old School filters through his/her own voice making him/her move to catch the final refrain before yawning all the way to the parking lot.
Enjoy the show(s), whatever way you plan to!
Date: Sat, August 27, 2011, 12:26:49 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
I was thinking about this last night... does anyone still hold some hope that the "21st Century Dan" night will feature more than a couple songs from TAN and EMG? I mean, with the addition of The Royal Scam, it really kills the chance for a nice unique set.
Let's say they do 19 songs, minus the intro/outro and the cover song for band intros. That's what the typical setlists were for Royal Scam nights last time around.
So The Royal Scam is nine songs, which leaves ten. And of the hits they will almost absolutely play:
- Reelin'
- Bodhisattva
- My Old School
- Black Friday
- Aja
- Peg
- Josie
- Hey Nineteen
That leaves what... 2 songs? One from each album?
Janie Runaway and Lunch with Gina?
I just don't see that night producing anything special.
Date: Sat, August 27, 2011, 11:13:16 ET
Posted by: EXTRA! EXTRA!, READ ALL ABOUT IT!
Oooooo, just look at all of those special guests playing with Steely Dan at the Beacon.
Oh wait, they are playing with Sam Yahel. Is that to entice new ticket buyers? Yeah that will get me to drop my beer at the bar and run to see the opening act. I'd love to see them drop the opening act instead and play longer. Methinks that would help duckett sales.
Date: Sat, August 27, 2011, 10:53:46 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, eyeing the storm
This youtube uploader has a bunch from KC; Kid C, Reelin', Peg, Parker's, Dirty W, Pretzel, Friday & Aja (so far).
http://www.youtube.com/user/tdjimmy515#p/u
Parker's Band (Brats vox)-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVujJ-lHV5g
Date: Sat, August 27, 2011, 10:43:37 ET
Posted by: It's, Like This
I had a guy posing as me here on the Blue so I "flew low" (Hoops, maybe you could take a little of that anti-bootleg venom you save for us and direct it at these types of guys who enjoy mucking about here w/ impunity...whilst smelling their own delicious fragrance of BO, I might add). Not that I care but if he does it again he's easily spotted as he'll try to stir up some shit with some outlandishly negative take on someone or something (he won't start that way but he can't keep his negtivity in his pants for long...true to form for most of those guys, me thinks).
That aside, for those of you who don't know drummer Bill Stewart, you're in for a treat when he plays with Yahel (and Potter!!!...watch him corral the hi hat on this vid...hilarious) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQuDAhMXwQA
Letterman drummers in my order of preference (like Cobham said so well...they have to tell me where they've been, where they're at and where they're going):
- Fig
- Royster
- Chambers
- Copeland
- Haynes
- Harrison
- E.
I always thought John Guerin would play on a SD 70's recording but, to my knowledge, that never happened...pity.
Date: Sat, August 27, 2011, 09:45:23 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston
Amrush... Excellent review. FM is a song i don't care for either but it comes across better live. Interesting how some songs are that way. Good luck east coasters. Buy a generator. Last one I went through I waited 2 weeks for electricity.
Date: Sat, August 27, 2011, 06:33:23 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF
Wonder if Walter and Jon like this?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904787404576530520471223268.html
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 23:19:27 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
Good Luck to all our east coast Danfans, as they ride out the storm tonight and tomorrow.Hope everyone stays safe!
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 22:36:13 ET
Posted by: amrush, Kansas City
Sweet. That was it! Thank you Dean :-)
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 22:32:17 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
Love the 1-2 punch of Cannonball Adderley's "Dizzy's Bidness" and Gold Teeth this tour.
Here's a couple of interesting takes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd2gSRmLDTg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG0hly9jizo
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 21:24:35 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Oops.
"experience" not "experienced"..
I don't typically post when I'm this sober.
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 21:11:37 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
amrush,
Really enjoyed your review and your sharing personal experienced.
The site you are looking for was called "Fever Dreams". While I don't believe it is currently active, there is an archive of it here:
http://feverdreams.whatsmykarma.com/
I get a kick out of it, too. Some real insights mixed with obvious over-analysis and flights of fancy.
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 20:39:59 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
steelydan.com updated today to include the following:
Beacon Special Guests
Steely Dan's extraordinary 7-night run at The Beacon will include several special guests:
Sep. 14 Mark Turner joins the Sam Yahel Trio
Sep. 16, 17 Joe Lovano joins the Sam Yahel Trio
Sep. 19, 20 Chris Potter and Bill Stewart join the Sam Yahel Trio
Sep. 22, 23 Miguel Zenon joins the Sam Yahel Trio
Sep. 23 Larry Carlton joins Steely Dan
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 20:19:07 ET
Posted by: amrush, Kansas City
I guess I should've noted that I'm a big Dan fan, having first bought Citizen Dan in 1996, so I'm strongly familiar with the old days material.
I didn't expect the highlights of the show to be 19 and "Aja", but they were inescapably good last night. The end of 19 (which is really the only part of the studio version of the song that I can much stomach anymore) last nite was just awesome. Mind you, this would be like telling me I could climax after hearing "Subdivisions" for the 3,852nd at a Rush show.
I've only been to one Dan show prior (Concord, CA in 2000; 10th row, incidentally, as an anniv event with my ex), and I was very happy that at *that* show, the band played a bunch of Katy and Scam. Those are probably my two fave albums from the catalog.
I didn't spoil the setlist before going last night, because i wanted to convey honest surprise and opinion in my piece. I had no idea, until I read this webpage late last night, that the band was mixing up the showlist night-over-night on the tour. In my opinion, mixing up a list night-over-night is the most qualitative thing a band can do for its fans when its on tour. Hands down. I just retired from performing last year (played throughout North America as a minor-leaguer from '05-'10, and was lucky enough to play a handful of Dan songs on the Strip in Las Vegas with a show band), and getting every act I ever played with to devote energy to mixing up showlists was always the toughest mountain I ever had to climb as a musician.
So I had expected Parker's Band to be the minimum deviation required for this show, and they obliged! I was really happy to personally witness that song in KC. Only thing that would've topped it would've been that *and* Charlie Freak, which for the last couple years has been my favorite tune on Logic. Incredibly powerful song; does anyone here know if it's ever been played live?
Anyways, when the pros mix and match their showlists, I feel very validated. And truthfully, there aren't enough pros out there doing it, either.
Once my publisher gets off his tail and posts my review, it'll include some nice photos from my ex, who also attended on a credential. She wasn't thrilled about not having down-front access (I told her beforehand not to expect a red carpet from this band ;-), but she still got two particularly good close-ups from the soundboard -- one of Carlock and an amazing shot of Becker. How she cuts through the adversity of being a live music photographer and still produces incredible images is a mystery to me. But you'll owe it to yourselves to check them out. The shot of Becker might end up being the best of the entire tour.
One more question for you die-hards: years ago, I used to occasionally visit a website where people posted their speculations on the meanings of the lyrics for each individual Steely Dan song from the old catalog. It was called "(something) Dreams", I think, and I really enjoyed that place. Does that site ring a bell for anyone? If so, what was it called and is it still around? Thanks in advance for any help with this conundrum.
Rock on..
Alan
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 18:30:43 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Something that could generate some discussion...
A few weeks ago, I briefly and probably not very thoroughly summarized some of the songs that Steely Dan has opened their sets with through the years (since 1993) in order to make a point about how "adventurous" they've been or haven't been in opening their sets. Additionally, several posters chimed in with the opinion that the 2000 tour setlist will never be topped, and I certainly believe that has at least something to do with the awesome Boston Rag opener. So this got me to thinking, how would I rank the set openers in order of "coolness" or some similar adjective? (This is not necessarily what songs you like better or like better live; for instance, in my opinion, Bodhisattva is a great song, a great live song and works well musically as an opener, with its high energy, but I would not necessarily think it's a cool or exciting opener as it's kind of predictable).
Now, I don't know if this type of discussion will interest people all that much, and I do know that fans don't necessarily like to rank things. In fact, I probably won't rank the set openers, at least initially, as I'm a bit under-qualified to do so, having only been to 5 shows, all since 2006. But even if people are uncomfortable ranking these tunes, I still hope it generates a small bit of discussion as far as what's been SD's most exciting and least exciting set openers.
The next step is to generate a list of all the songs that have opened SD shows since 1993. I'm sure my list will be incomplete. It's a little difficult to compare "album night" opening songs with traditional openers, so I'm not including those. I'm also not including "2nd set" openers because I believe there's an entirely different mentality and dynamic when it comes to that. However, if posters want to include the 2nd set openers, that's fine with me. Anyway, here are the songs that I know for a fact they definitely have opened with for at least one show:
- Green Earrings
- Bodhisattva
- Time Out of Mind
- Reelin' in the Years Club Mix (2009 version and of course, only during some 2009 shows)
- Do It Again
- Two Against Nature (don't know how frequently they opened with this but they did so at at least one 2007 show, because I was at a show where they opened with this)
- Black Friday (some Internet Request Night '09 shows and some "regular" '09 shows later in that tour)
- Aja
- True Companion>Aja ( Obviously, I think this should be distinguished from opening with "just" Aja, for its uniqueness and how well it worked musically)
- Black Cow (as far as I know, the Nashville show is the only "regular" show they've done where this has been the opener)
- The Boston Rag
- Your Gold Teeth
- Instrumental medley>The Royal Scam (2008 shows)
Those are the only ones I can think of right now (and I'm only counting shows since 1993), so please add more if there are any.
Anyway, while I'm not going to rank them, I will say that I think that the three "coolest," or most exciting or most interesting set openers are: True Companion>Aja, The Boston Rag (and I think I put that on here because of the drums-bass-piano-sax part that precedes the familiar album intro to that song; I'm guessing that several people will feel the same way), and the Instrumental medley>The Royal Scam in '08. Now, I only saw The Royal Scam opener in person, but from the recordings I've heard of the other two that I listed, I don't think I necessarily needed to be there to recognize how awesome they were.
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 16:24:03 ET
Posted by: royster bozzio,
If you like Royster Jr., and you like Bozzio, well, here they are playing together!
http://www.drumchannel.com/articles/TonyRoysterJr_TerryBozzio_DCDrumJam
There are lots of other great interviews and playing, but they're no longer free.
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 15:50:41 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
DYLYNFAN,
Both nights at the 5,000 seat Greek
LA were a very tough ticket at show
time. I was offered marginal seats
by scalpers both nights for 3 times
their face value.
But I totally agree about NYC. For
instance they sell out an 8,000 seater
in the middle of America last night,
yet they still can't sell out Rarities
Night or every other night except maybe
Aja Night in the 2800 seat Beacon.
Clearly your "hometown" is isn't always
the best place to sell tickets or do an
extended run. They had the same problem
in 2009 and tickets were even cheaper.
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 15:41:45 ET
Posted by: Ben, Indy, but checking the tires for Milwaukee
Excellent review and what a setlist! It's great to catch SD shows at varied points within a tour because they do mix things up a bit. I'm pumped for Aja tomorrow night and curious what tunes will round out the 2nd half of the show (hopefully 21st century stuff stays in). I agree that Walter does deserve some more love! Don gets the big intro, which is well deserved, but Sir Becker should also have equal limelight. But then again, these guys know and do what they want, so maybe it just seems lopsided to me.
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 15:27:02 ET
Posted by: Effortlessy!,
A couple of pics from the show at Starlight Theater Thursday night in Kansas City, Mo.
http://www.kansan.com/photos/galleries/2011/aug/25/steely-dan-starlight/
(Please note pic 2 of Walter. He's playing standing on one leg. Effortlessly!)
:)
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 15:26:29 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG, PA
Amrush let me be the first to say "WHAT A GREAT FUCKING REVIEW"
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 14:38:34 ET
Posted by: amrush, Kansas City
Here is my review of last night's show, which has yet to be published for national publication Jam Magazine. Thanks to you regulars for helping me fill in the blanks on the titles of the Everything Must Go material.
amrush
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Steely Dan
Starlight Amphitheater
Kansas City, Missouri
Thursday, August 25, 2011
Review by amrush
There's an inherent irony in attending a Steely Dan concert staged in Middle America, which is worlds removed from the Paraguays and Bogotas of 1980�s Gaucho. The post-bop era's preeminent purveyors of licentious lyrical landscapes could be forgiven for seeming out of sorts, in a port-of-call as anti-exotic as Kansas City, Missouri.
But no, the ageless jazz-rock duet of Donald Fagen and Walter Becker settled right into the grand extravaganza that is their traveling minstrel show, on a virtually perfect night for music under the stars at the Starlight Amphitheater. After all, when you're sharing your spotlight with a cadre of eleven ridiculously talented backing musicians, it's hard not to hit a home run � no matter what outpost on the planet you happen to be entertaining.
Dubbed �The Miles High Big Band� for the group's 2011 Shuffle Diplomacy world tour, the backing musicians filed onstage at about 8:20, warming up on the familiar strains of the only instrumental in the band's back-catalog, Duke Ellington's "East St. Louis Toodle-Oo". As the maudlin ditty wound down, the Dan's troupe of backing-singers (the "Embassy Brats") trotted out, before Becker and Fagen themselves finally emerged to the roar of the Starlight's capacity-crowd of 8000.
With the line-up now complete, the band methodically dug into Countdown To Ecstasy's "Your Gold Teeth", stretching the mid-tempo number out a bit, with both baritone sax player Roger Rosenberg and lead guitarist Jon Herington taking yeoman-like extended solos.
It's not common for the highlight of a rock and roll show to surface fifteen minutes in, but that's exactly what happened during "Aja", which received its formidable airing before the audience had even completely settled into their seats. Herington's solo (on a Larry Carlton-esque tobacco-burst ES-335) was a rather unassuming and minimalist effort, and Walt Weiskopf's interpretation of Wayne Shorter's timeless tenor sax solo was similarly spare, yet tasty. But it was drummer Keith Carlock that delivered the prized performance of the entire night: a gripping statement -- in his own voice -- of Steve Gadd's majestic percussion appointments and finale. As he flourished his effort, the KC crowd rose in thunderous approval for what was truly an outstanding statement from the drum stool.
After following up that epic performance with an appropriately brisk and laid-back "Black Friday", Becker charged the rest of the band into the jukebox for "Hey Nineteen". Thankfully, the brothers Dan were plainly aware that this song had been somewhat flogged to death over the years, because once they reached the bubbly mid-section, Becker drifted into an Alex Lifeson-type monologue, covering such subjects as young girls and smoking Mother Nature. It was an unexpectedly fun moment � for both musician and audience � and Becker ended his story by seamlessly teeing up "the Cuervo Gold" and "the fine Colombian" for the Embassy Brats, which the girls knocked out of the park in blissful three-part harmony.
Yes, you read that last paragraph correctly: "Hey Nineteen" was a highlight of the show!
A few songs later, the band again departed familiar ground in a less-edgy (but no less moody) version of "Show Biz Kids", with both Fagen and the girls seemingly really enjoying the message behind their vocals. This number furthered the theme of the songlist for the show, which leaned heavily upon both Aja and Countdown To Ecstasy.
At the back end of a cover of James Brown�s �Papa Don�t Take No Mess,� Becker methodically introduced the Miles High Big Band, and was followed by Fagen's intro for the pastoral "Dirty Work.� The Embassy Brats handled the vocals for this tune, and while they certainly did a capable job, the absence of the sensibility of original vocalist David Palmer's melancholy "yearn" is sadly missed.
However, the girls left "Dirty Work" in the dust by also carrying the vocals for the following tune, Pretzel Logic's "Parker's Band". As the group ripped into this up-tempo frolic, the one genuine mystery about the songlist was emphatically answered: Fagen acknowledging (in fanboi fashion) the song's tip-of-the-cap to Kansas City's greatest musical product, jazz legend Charlie Parker. Needless to say, it was a tight, excellent rendition.
To close out the night, the band obliged the buzzing crowd with dance tune after dance tune -- starting with "Josie" and ending with "Reelin' In The Years". Nearly the entire audience were on their feet at this point, and dozens of fans dosey-doe'd and Charleston'd to their collective heart's content throughout the Starlight's various concourses. Some groups of fans even had their moves choreographed!
Almost no one in the packed house departed before the band returned for the encore, which turned out to be the only song of the night off of Royal Scam, "Kid Charlemagne". Again, Herington took a subdued approach with the signature guitar solo, leaving the audience to soak in the ensemble as a whole topping off their night with an energetic exclamation point. The group could have easily returned for another encore or two, but Becker and Fagen strolled offstage together at 10:30, while the ringers behind them played out a touching, dissonant instrumental � bringing to an end an all-around fine performance.
On this night, a cast of thirteen incredible musicians breathed life into one of the most off-beat chapters of America's rock and roll history. Becker and Fagen proved once again that they clearly understand how to put together a song, how to put together a band and how to put together a rock and roll show. One would dearly hope that these guys would choose to return to Kansas City on their next tour.
STEELY DAN Showlist
- East St. Louis Toodle-Oo
- Your Gold Teeth
- Aja
- Black Friday
- Hey Nineteen
- Time Out Of Mind
- Lunch With Gina
- Show Biz Kids
- Bodhisattva
- Pretzel Logic
- GodWhacker
- Home At Last
- Papa Don�t Take No Mess (James Brown cover)
- Dirty Work
- Parker�s Band
- Josie
- Peg
- My Old School
- Reelin� In The Years
- (encore) Kid Charlemagne
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 14:37:01 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains, NY
and Dennis Chambers' performance last night on the Late Show:
http://www.cbs.com/late_night/late_show/video/?pid=bNpoG8uRsxmte4kAtOFpMmKJT2ohMALG
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 13:09:23 ET
Posted by: Answering, Wonka
Here's Fagen's version of CIM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IoVcBo0eDg
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 12:49:17 ET
Posted by: w, Louisville
How can this not be an excellent song live with the Brats singing the Manhattan Transfer harmonies to Fagen's lead vocals?
CONFIDE IN ME
(Donald Fagen)
After the crash when you're
Strolling thru the ruins alone
Pick up the phone
When you feel twisted, honey,
I'm listed
Confide in me, confide in me
Got no degree
But I'm strong on tears and
Careless hearts, brave new starts
You know I'm a big fan and
I got a program
If you'll just confide in me
We'll sit in my kitchen babe,
Drink lotsa coffee babe
You'll begin just where you left off
And you can tell how high
You flew and how you fell
And I'll make your landing soft
My place is cute
And it's kind of comfortable
In a storm, safe and warm
We'll throw open the nighttime
And let in the sunshine
If you'll just confide in me,
Just confide in me
Yes I'm strong on careless hearts
I'm strong on brave new starts
Confide in me, I'll hold your hand
Confide in me, I'll understand
You say you've slipped,
Made a mistake
Confide in me, for goodness sakes
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 12:46:27 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville
Metheny and Dave Grusin music and I don't think you could do any better than Steve Gadd or Paul Wertico. Of course Gadd has played many times with the Dan. I think he is the best. Mr. Carlock is excellent on this tour.
Mr. Fagan has indeed been energized and active in the two shows that I saw. He is fun to watch and is almost like watching Mick Jagger workin' it! The more the players get into their music, it shows, and it gets the audience into it as well. Not sure why the KC band was so sedentary but you can only lead mules and jacks to the state fair.
Here's a song that I would love to hear this band play, Fagan's "Confide In Me" which was sung by The Manhattan Transfer. It's a great song and this band would crush it like a bug. Play it on tour!
I can hear Jon Herington already playing the solo, back and forth with Walter. Why has this song not been recorded by Fagan or Steely Dan?!
http://www.myspace.com/themanhattantransfer/music/songs/confide-in-me-28339857
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 12:45:16 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville
Sounds like the KC show was very enjoyable. I agree that Stewart Copeland is an awesome drummer. Seen The Police twice on the Synchronicity tour and he definitely stood out. I am a fan of Pat Metheny and Dave Grusin music and I don't think you could do any better than Steve Gadd or Paul Wertico. Of course Gadd has played many times with the Dan. I think he is the best. Mr. Carlock is excellent on this tour.
Mr. Fagan has indeed been energized and active in the two shows that I saw. He is fun to watch and is almost like watching Mick Jagger workin' it! The more the players get into their music, it shows, and it gets the audience into it as well. Not sure why the KC band was so sedentary but you can only lead mules and jacks to the state fair.
Here's a song that I would love to hear this band play, Fagan's "Confide In Me" which was sung by The Manhattan Transfer. It's a great song and this band would crush it like a bug. Play it on tour!
I can hear Jon Herington already playing the solo, back and forth with Walter. Why has this song not been recorded by Fagan or Steely Dan?!
http://www.myspace.com/themanhattantransfer/music/songs/confide-in-me-28339857
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 09:48:04 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG, PA
Great review WonkaVader, I concur with almost all your points!!
And another example of different cities going crazy for the Dan
that scalper price is nutz, never happen these days in N.Y OR LA!!
I think the big-city folks are getting a little spoiled and entitled
just the rambling thoughts of an idiot (me)!!!
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 09:41:18 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG, PA
I dont know a drum stick (chicken ) from a real drum stick
but I was blown away by Copeland when I saw The Ploice on the
Synchranicity tour!!!!! He stole the show, that said I have
no f*ckn clue if it would work with the Dan and besides it doesnt
get any better then Mr. Carlock!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 09:33:41 ET
Posted by: Josey, Mass
They played Lunch With Gina in Atlanta back in 2003 also. The venue used to called Lakewood Amphitheater...not sure what the name is now.
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 09:12:35 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, In the path of the storm
Aja - KC : Showm from actual distance of your present location!
(And The Donald sounds just fine.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13uKiplgbF8
----- ----- ------
** My favorite drummer and my favorite drum kit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N97kdlGjspE
Bow to your leader!!
But really, where do we vote to get KC on Letterman's next drum week?
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 08:38:42 ET
Posted by: Q for Rockpit, East
Did the girls sing Parker's band?
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 05:16:43 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
rockpt,
Thanks for the KC setlist, I like
tonight's list even better than last
night in St. Louis.
Steely Dan did play Cowtown twice in 1972
1972 December, 2 Cowtown Ballroom, Kansas City, MO
1972 December, 3 Cowtown Ballroom, Kansas City, MO
As for the Cowtown Ballroom, is it still around?
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 03:48:00 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, what about this guy, then?
Re: Drummers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPncumXZExo
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 02:35:55 ET
Posted by: rockpt, KC
Great KC show. As far as I can tell, this was the first time they ever played KC. Venue was pretty much sold out. I had front row seats on JH side of the stage. The band was really pushed back, which was a little disappointing, but the show was very good. Here's the set list:
East St. Louis Toodle-oo
Gold Teeth
Aja
Black Friday
Hey Nineteen
Time Out of Mind
Lunch With Gina
Show Biz Kids (ultra funky)
Bodhisattva
Pretzel Logic (nice surprise)
Godwhacker
Home At Last
Papa Don't Take No Mess (James Brown)
Dirty Work
Mister Parker's Band (for KC only?)
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Reelin' In the Years
Kid Charlemagne (encore)
Band had good energy and DF was as active as I've seen him. For me the highlight was the almost unrecognizable but so cool Show Biz number. Audience was as quiet as a church mouse but the band was rockin' out. Big smile.
Date: Fri, August 26, 2011, 02:24:11 ET
Posted by: rockpt, KC
Great KC show. As far as I can tell, this was the first time they ever played KC. Venue was pretty much sold out. I had front row seats on JH side of the stage. The band was really pushed back, which was a little disappointing, but the show was very good. Here's the set list:
East St. Louis Toodle-oo
Gold Teeth
Aja
Black Friday
Hey Nineteen
Time Out of Mind
Lunch With Gina
Show Biz Kids (ultra funky)
Bodhisattva
Pretzel Logic (nice surprise)
Godwhacker
Home At Last
Papa Don't Take No Mess (James Brown)
Dirty Work
Mister Parker's Band (for KC only?)
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Reelin' In the Years
Kid Charlemagne (encore)
Band had good energy and DF was as active as I've seen him. For me the highlight was the almost unrecognizable but so cool Show Biz number. Audience was as quiet as a church mouse but the band was rockin' out. Big smile.
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 23:54:09 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Greg, those are pretty good insights, I think. And I don't remember Lawson's kit being that bit, but I went back and re-watched some 2vN DVD clips and it is bigger than I remember. I can't believe Chambers used that big a kit with SD, but that was a while ago and my memory ain't what it used to be (I drink, ya know).
But of course it isn't about the kit. With that said, I can't imagine Don and Walt allowing a monstrous kit onstage.
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 23:04:20 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville
Oops, meant to say 8-piece band, not seven. Didn't want to think that one was missing, hanging outside for a smoke!
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 23:02:52 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville
<<So, did Walter do the wah-wah melody on East St. Louis Toodle-Oo like he did on the studio version and 96 tour, or did Jon H. take it?>>
Bill, the seven-piece band played St. Louis Toodle-oo. Walt, Don, and the Brats were not yet on stage.
Big Jon handled the guitar solos. The crowd loved it.
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 22:59:34 ET
Posted by: Greg M, .
Oh, and:
http://www.stingfield.com/images/2MiamiKelTex012204.jpg
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 22:53:00 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains, NY
<<<I guess my first question is: Has Steely Dan ever toured with a drummer with that big of a kit?>>>
Possibly. Ricky Lawson's kit is quite big:
http://tinyurl.com/4x387ev
and with Steely in 2000: http://tinyurl.com/4x387ev
Dennis Chambers' Kit is quite large as well:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/435drvg
So, while SIZE doesn't matter, apparently, I don't think Stewart could hang with the the Dan. He's too out of control (like Chambers, perhaps?). Tasty, creative, talented, for sure; but uncontrollable. I read parts of Copeland's recent auto-bio: Sting had/has major issues with touring with him then and now because of this.
As an interestingly aside, Keith Carlock has played over 130 shows with Sting, and KC can pull "Copeland" out his his bag of tricks when necessary.
Though it would never happen in a million years, hearing Copeland lay down Aja or Josie would be a spectacle to behold. Sheer power and energy.
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 22:44:55 ET
Posted by: BillfromPgh,
So, did Walter do the wah-wah melody on East St. Louis Toodle-Oo like he did on the studio version and 96 tour, or did Jon H. take it?
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 21:47:59 ET
Posted by: vic, ne
They did 'Lunch With Gina' at Jones Beach awhile back.
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 21:11:05 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville
Okay, so I didn't know the name to the song "Lunch With Gina", but I knew it was a rarity. Cuz the man, Don, told me so! Maybe he was having a senior moment. But I do not own the last two albums (TAN or EMG) so I would not know. I have heard Almost Gothic several times on the radio, so I woulda known that one.
Final thoughts on the St. Louis show. I am glad it was not exactly like the Louisville show which I attended last week. It makes for a different experience altogether, especially when there are four or five different songs played. I thoroughly enjoyed the St. Louis show.
I am telling, you it is like hopping on a rock-n-roll rocket and heading for the sun when you move forward to the first five or ten rows at a show! The sound, the visual... just incredible! Not to mention that I am rather smitten with Ms. Leonhart, what a beautiful and sexy woman she is... ouch!
I only rushed to the stage for the final song Kid Charlemagne, so it wasn't for long. But I have to say the sound mix was impressive way up in the balcony where I was for the concert. $35 ticket that I bought outside for $110 when I thought I was for sure going to get shut out of the show. Really difficult ticket. Louisville show had no tickets floating as far as I could tell.
So I liked them both, but I have to give the Louisville show the nod as I would take Bad Sneakers, Babylon Sisters, and Green Earrings over Deacon Blues, Home At Last, Monkey In Your Soul, and Lunch With Gina. Though I must again say that Gina sounded very good and Home At Last was excellent.
If I were to go a-wishing at a well, I would sure like to hear Doctor Wu, Haitian Divorce, Here At the Western World, Third World Man, and FM, and Royal Scam. But you can't have it all.
I have to agree with others that any song sung by Sir W. Becker is not going to be as good as the Donald singing. I guess I'm fine with the decision on how they wish to engage WB in one song vocally, but no way is it going to be as good as Fagan. Monkey song, really could have done without it and gone with something else from the catalog, to be honest.
This band is tight, and the Brats are a wonderful surprise. They are great on vocals, they are great eye candy, and they keep the audience's gaze. Great dancers, they put you in the mood.
Walt Weiskopf, very good on sax, I have seen him a number of times in Louisville at the UofL Jazz School concerts put on by the faculty. Walt is a featured teacher every year as are many greats. Usually around w/o July 4th, so check it out. Great jazz.
The Fabulous Fox Theatre is just a beauty of a venue. I'm jealous that I could not stay over another day in St. Louis for tonight's Chick Corea concert there. He has the Electrik Band members with him including Frank Gambali on guitar. That would be awesome to hear.
Lastly, Walter doesn't get enough love. He is part of the glue holding this band together, very engaging personality, supremely talented, and still playing fantastic licks on guitar. Go Walter, go!
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 21:01:19 ET
Posted by: copeland fan,
During the Letterman/Stewart Copeland show, after the Top-10 List, Paul Shaffer goes to commercial with "Reelin' in the Years"!
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 20:44:20 ET
Posted by: copeland fan,
I'd love to hear Stewart on some new Steely studio tracks, but he'd never work as their tour drummer. He needs lots of sonic space - he's perfect in a trio.
On a Steely track he'd force the boys to strip it down and get raw again.
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 19:01:31 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
"Stewart Copeland killed it last night...
Imagine him with the Dan ??????????"- Greg M
I guess my first question is: Has Steely Dan ever toured with a drummer with that big of a kit? I'm not sure if Copeland can tow the line enough for Don and Walt.
Also, is Copeland versatile enough to play the various styles called for by SD, at the level they demand? I'm not trying to stir anything up here, it's an honest question. Most of what I know of Copeland is from the Police. But I know he has a great reputation outside of that group and is considered a world class drummer. And his performance on Letterman was interesting and musical. But there are plenty of great drummers who do what they do extraordinarily well, but really aren't all that versatile. So that's why I ask.
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 18:50:50 ET
Posted by: Donald's Vocal Coach, my bissness nata yours
From the St Louis Today dot com:
"Fagan's vocals got rough or he reached the top of his range -- which happened more than once"
maledizione del dio esso !!!!!!!
"Fagan and Becker even knew how to please a St. Louis crowd with their intro music. The band played them on with Duke Ellington's "East St. Louis Toodle-oo"
east st louis is actually in illinois !!!!!!!
deficiente...
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 18:14:36 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains, NY
Hey folks,
Don't forget to tune in to Letterman tonight.
Steely Dan alum DENNIS CHAMBERS is the musical guest and rounds out "drum solo week" on the Late Show.
Stewart Copeland killed it last night:
http://www.cbs.com/late_night/late_show/video/?pid=F4n9Yg5Pzk1l26mCBx98q94ComlU6cwX&vs=Default&play=true
Imagine him with the Dan ??????????
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 17:51:04 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH
Concerning Lunch with Gina in St. Louis...
Senior moment or maybe he just meant first time this tour.
I hope it makes it to 21st century night in NYC.
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 17:32:49 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Peteb: Donald mentioned in an interview that he loves Jazz, Fake Jazz and Fake, Fake Jazz. I think that is what you are referring to. No it is definitely not a dis. :-)
Gretchen! Much love your way. You going to NYC for any Beacon Shows?
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 16:52:57 ET
Posted by: Peteb, uk
ps when I attribute "pretend jazz" to Donald in that last post, it is not a disparaging remark. It's just something he said in an interview. No doubt both he and WB are great fans.
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 16:50:07 ET
Posted by: peteb, UK
Everyone is piling in with their fantasy rarities but I never see some titles that I really like, viz.
A Little With Sugar
Roaring of The Lamb
Sun Mountain
- these songs have a real emotional edge to them, they are incredibly poignant and I always think they come from Becker for some reason. The only song in this mode that made it to the official records is Caves of Altamira, and even that had changed from the early version from a haunting expression of childhood sadness to a sarky satire. As I get older I hanker after Becker's endlessly messed-up grittiness. The real SD magic depends on this restless soul drawn out over such unlikely expression as "pretend jazz" (c. D Fagen) and one reason I find myself going more and more to the Becker solo albums is that this raw nerve is more evident there. It would be great to spice up/deepen the live shows with at least an example of the other side of this vital, complex chemistry. JUST SAYIN'...
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 14:44:17 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
So after 32 nights of touring this
year they finally break out Lunch
With Gina. Though Donald definitely
had a "senior moment" last night
in St. Louis. Many of us saw Gina
at Roseland and then at Universal
Hollywood. And as I mentioned earlier
in the tour they soundchecked that
puppy all the way back in Santa
Barbara on July 6.
Thanks for the reports and setlist
though I am really bummed that Last
Tango is back. I was really looking
forward to hearing the Untouchables Theme.
I wonder how long East St. Louis Toodle-oo
will stay as the opener?
Did Don credit Duke & Bubber after the
opener last night?
Thanks for the scoop M/O/D/P. Glad you
weren't taken by another clear money grab.
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 13:46:31 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains, NY
we're definitely moving in the right direction.... stoked to see tonight's list
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 13:42:25 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
Now that is a set-list folks, right down to the entrance music
may just be the seminal show of the tour??? JUST SAYIN
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 13:01:38 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis
Set list 8-24-11 - FROM ST LOUIS REVIEW
East St. Louis Toodle-oo (entrance music)
Your Gold Teeth
Aja
Black Friday
Hey Nineteen
Lunch with Gina
Deacon Blues
Time Out of Mind
Show Biz Kids
Bodhisattva
Monkey in Your Soul
Godwhacker
Home at Last
Papa Don't Take No Mess (band intros)
Dirty Work
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Reelin' in the Years
Encore
Kid Charlemagne
Last Tango in Paris (exit music)
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 12:48:53 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Thanks for the St. Louis setlist. Very nice. Good short review, too. Not your typical cookie-cutter piece.
Lunch With Gina just seems like it would KILL live.
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 12:31:07 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains, NY
<< They played Lunch with Gina. Fagen did declare it was the first time, but I saw them do is at Roseland. >>
As did I. They played it a few times in the latter portion of the 2003 tour.
Tom Barney KILLED on it, and took Walter's bass ideas to a whole new level. Hope Freddie can do the same.
Looking forward to hearing this one. Best song on EMG!
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 12:10:38 ET
Posted by: TO Danfan, on the deck
Springsteen. One of the most prolific songwriters of our generation.
If you think Bruce is all about Born To Run & Born In The USA you don't know his music. Just like those who think Reelin' & Rikki defines SD.....WRONG!
Cheers
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 12:10:34 ET
Posted by: TO Danfan, on the deck
Springsteen. One of the most prolific songwriters of our generation.
If you think Bruce is all about Born To Run & Born In The USA you don't know his music. Just like those who think Reelin' & Rikki defines SD.....WRONG!
Cheers
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 11:42:01 ET
Posted by: bikemann17, nj
Oh Boy! Warm up time!!!!!!!!!
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 11:26:55 ET
Posted by: Anon, 1
They played Lunch with Gina. Fagen did declare it was the first time, but I saw them do is at Roseland.
http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/music/reviews/article_2b70f54a-cf2c-11e0-80d3-001a4bcf6878.html
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 11:10:11 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
I can't believe I didn't mention Van Morrison. My bad.
I have to admit my interest in the St Louis setlist has been piqued.
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 10:22:42 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston
Willie Nelson
Townes Van Zandt
Steve Earle
Lyle Lovett
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 09:33:45 ET
Posted by: Bikemann, nj
New song or first for an old song???????????????? Maybe warming up for Rarities night?????
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 09:31:41 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, decrypting
Thanks for adding to the songwriters list. They're all very relevant names.
Re: SD USB stick
"a one gig (!) storage device that didn't contain anything other than one tiny, borderline-useless gig of empty space"
I ordered one from sd.com, and after some hours of analyzing the apparently random data that we call "empty space", I found a hidden, encrypted volume containing a 1.25 kB text file, which after decryption says:
<<Dear fan/friend of Steely Dan,
The purpose of this USB storage device is to provide a space for you to keep your ideal Steely Dan Show setlist.
Unfortunately we may not be able to make your wildest dreams come through at any shows during the Shuffle Diplomacy 2011 Tour, but we know that you alredy own a huge collection of what's known as "bootleg recordings" from this and earlier tours, and this USB stick will make it possible to put together a fine list of your favorite rare bootlegs.
To maintain the feeling of a continuous live show, we suggest that you only include live boots, and refrain from adding i.e. any of your rare SD studio outtakes to your setlist, however tempting it may be.
This way you can make sure your ideal SD show is always within reach and ready for playback on PCs, MACs, cell phones and other hand-held devices.
Yours truly,
Walter Becker and Donald Fagen of Steely Dan">>
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 08:50:42 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis
"New song"...I'm not buying that...but I hope I'm wrong.
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 08:15:07 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Has anyone mentioned Carole King for the songwriting list? I think she definitely could make it, and I think Laura Nyro and Jimmy Webb are two others who should be considered that I haven't seen mentioned.
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 08:10:54 ET
Posted by: KD, C
Hey, Moral Eel? Hoops just asked if you were me.
Stop being such a prick.
Fucking hell. I littered this place with posts in its first week. Stop smoking pot, people. You might start to remember where your A4 is parked.
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 07:25:06 ET
Posted by: bassicinstinct, Nottingham UK
Gretchen:
Great to hear from you again!!
Hope all is well?
N.
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 05:01:19 ET
Posted by: JungleMusic, Sweden
"Song list was quite different in order and it featured a new song which Don said "hope you liked that, we have never played that one before". I have no idea what song it was but it was good."
Wakey wakey America, rise and shine. Please confirm or deny the lastest rumours.
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 00:51:45 ET
Posted by: shark, hmmm
a "new" song, eh???
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 00:49:37 ET
Posted by: shark de ville, up on the hill
besides Monk, here's 10 of my favorite songwriters (as yet unmentioned):
Antonio Carlos Jobim
Brian Wilson
Stevie Wonder
J.Garcia/R.Hunter
Jagger/Richards
Merle Haggard
Roger Miller
Willie Nelson
Jagger/Richards
Ray Davies
Gene Clark
and how 'bout top 10 Rarities...
Let George Do It
Only a Fool
Turn That Heartbeat Over
Razor Boy
Pearl of the Qtr
Rose Darlin
YGT 2
Talkin Bout My Home
Almost Gothic
Wet Side Story
if i'm REALLY lucky i might get 50% of that... we shall see!
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 00:48:18 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville
I thought I was just signing up. I guess this is going on the board. First time poster. Just wanted to say that I went to the St. Louis concert tonight. What a beautiful theatre the Fabulous Fox Theatre is. I saw the concert last week at the Louisville Palace and I thought that place was special, this place even more so.
Song list was quite different in order and it featured a new song which Don said "hope you liked that, we have never played that one before". I have no idea what song it was but it was good. It appears that Green Earrings and Bad Sneakers (which was played last week) had Deacon Blues and Home At Last swapped with it.
Of course, you have to play St. Louis Toodle-Oo when in this town, and the band opened up with it instead of Dizzy's Bidness.
Hope to post again in the future. I enjoy reading this Blue Board. Steely Dan is a special band and their music is timeless.
Date: Thurs, August 25, 2011, 00:43:27 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville
Steely Dan. Now that is an interesting band.
Date: Wed, August 24, 2011, 23:12:18 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
And, just as an afterthought, I'd like to add a these jazz standards composers:
Charles Mingus
Erroll Garner
Frank Foster
Charlie Parker
Miles Davis
Dizzy
Coltrane
Thelonious Monk
Benny Goodman
Django Reinhardt
Of course, there are plenty more.
Date: Wed, August 24, 2011, 23:03:09 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Great list, Jazzy.
Good addition of Harold Arlen. I believe he was one of Donald's mother's favorites.
Along with Rogers and Hart I guess we should include Hammerstein, too.
I'll add:
Jimmy Van Heusen (with Sammy Cahn and Johnny Burke, among others).
Jimmy McHugh
Perhaps Glen Miller, too.
Date: Wed, August 24, 2011, 22:25:00 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Suddenly tolerable Philly
Jazzassin - Love that list, I'd like to add one more, Meredith Wilson
Date: Wed, August 24, 2011, 22:09:50 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Toronto
Lurker Ray - I was able to buy one of those silly USB drives at the recent Toronto show. I didn't actually buy one though. There weren't very many available, I was told, but the information I got from the guy running the swag booth was all I needed to dissuade me from shelling out $45.00 (!) for a one gig (!) storage device that didn't contain anything other than one tiny, borderline-useless gig of empty space. A quick trip to a second souvenir stand confirmed the previous details and, I think, validated my decision to abstain. I can go for a $15.00 coffee mug (I have one from "Think Fast" 08) or even a punitively-priced keychain (one each from "Heavy Rollers" 07 and "Think Fast"), but I hereby nominate the SD 2011 "Shuffle Diplomacy" USB drive as a candidate for immediate induction into the Crappy Rock Collectibles Hall of Fame.
Jazzassin - That's a pretty good list of heavy hitters. I'd like to add Harold Arlen, if I could. It's not a name that many of today's music fans know, but pactically everyone knows any number of his songs, and some of them are touchstones of popular culture - standards, as you say. Thanks for the post and the list, too.
Date: Wed, August 24, 2011, 19:58:12 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Steely Daughter and Gretchen,
Good of both of you to check in. I hope you are both doing well.
Steely Daughter, you are doing your dad proud by going to the concert. I hope you check in with a report later tonight or tomorrow. Be safe!
For various reasons we are lucky in St. Augustine when it comes to bad storms. I hate to jinx it by discussing it, but it seems to be fact. We regularly miss the worst of the storms and hurricanes, even if the area just north or west of us gets hit. I'm quite thankful for that.
Date: Wed, August 24, 2011, 18:25:29 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
STEELY DAN SHUFFLE DIPLOMACY USB DRIVE
http://www.steelydan.com/tour11merch.html
Has anyone been able to purchase one of
these at any show? If so what is on it?
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Hope you were able to enjoy those two Fagen
shows Miss Gretchen.
Have a great one tonight in St Louis all.
Wish I could be there. The Fox is another
gem as anyone who has seen the Chuck Berry
concert film, "Hail! Hail! Rock 'n' Roll"
will attest.
Viva! Viva! Rock 'n' Roll
Date: Wed, August 24, 2011, 17:26:21 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, CT
It's been ages since I posted here but I still find time to lurk occassionally ...
Stopped into a really nice art gallery and was surprised (and pleased) to hear TvN...they actually had the whole cd playing! Nota common occurance but always good to hear. Hope all of my fellow east coasters are bracing for Irene...stay safe!
Date: Wed, August 24, 2011, 17:23:10 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, -
Flocko,
Certainly.
Date: Wed, August 24, 2011, 16:38:03 ET
Posted by: flocko, flytown
Jazz,
Save your prayers for hurricane Irene!
Date: Wed, August 24, 2011, 15:59:27 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Leiber & other songwriters
Some songwriters / songwriting teams have made huge footprints in the history of popular music.
In the genres of jazz, rock, country, pop and musicals, there is a relatively small and very exclusive group of people who have apparently supplied the western world with a majority (or at least an unproportionally large percentage) of those �songs that's just there�. Many of them a part of the general formation of 4-5 generations in much of the US and western Europe.
The songs are often referred to as �standards�, recorded by hundreds or thousands of artists and played by millions, and in every imaginable style.
Here's a short list of such songwriters I could think of right away, but I know there's many equally important names I've forgotten.
Most of them are recognized primarily as songwriters, while some are merited artist as well.
Leiber/Stoller
Holland/Dozier/Holland
Lennon/McCartney
Bob Dylan
Hank Williams
Hoagy Carmichael
Ellington/Strayhorn
Jerome Kern
Rogers/Heart
Gershwin/Gershwin
Johnny Mercer
Cole Porter
Bacharach/David
For me, a majority of songs that have become �standards� are amongst the biggest and most valuable treasures in music, along with some unique performances as such, and of course certain artists and recordings.
First and foremost because they're great songs as such, but there's more:
They live on long after their originators are gone, and great songs is often one reason why people want to learn to play or become musicians themselves.
They are of course also a great inspiration for other aspiring songwriters.
And finally, they connect people and makes it easier to play/jam together.
Becker/Fagen, our all time favorite songwriting team is a little bit different of course.
Their songs are not at all recorded that often by others, but rather exclusively associated with the originators.
Their own recordings and performances of their songs are often the only �official�, or well known versions that exists, eventually there are some obscure cover versions of little significance around for most of them, of course.
However, musicians usually love Steely Dan, and their songs are of course played from time to time by passionate professional craftsmen and -women, and amateurs alike just for the pure pleasure of it.
And of course, they have by far the most entertaining fan base. ;o)
More obvious names to the list is appreciated.
Date: Wed, August 24, 2011, 15:45:50 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Norway
Sympathy, hopes & prayers for all earthquake affected Steely brothers and sisters on the US east coast.
Date: Wed, August 24, 2011, 15:31:27 ET
Posted by: fezo, Shakey Town
Thank god I live sufficiently inland so our home did not tumble into the sea. Live about 30 miles at most, NW of Mineral. Very little damage but scary as shit, especially the aftershocks. Now I know why my LA-based sister is so freaked out by earthquakes.
Date: Wed, August 24, 2011, 15:25:28 ET
Posted by: Steely Daughter, Southern Illinois
Hey there, Steely Daughter checking in for my (seemingly) yearly update. Heading up to the Fabulous Fox Theater in St. Louis this evening to see Steely Dan play and I couldn't be much more excited. It breaks my heart wishing that my dad could be there with me but I know he's enjoying all the SD he could ever need on the other side. Maybe I'll see some other Bluebookers there. :)
Date: Wed, August 24, 2011, 11:22:36 ET
Posted by: Marv, E
IIRC, there was either a Drifters or Leiber and Stoller tribute concert at Radio City a few years back. Fagen performed Ruby Baby with Herington on guitar.
Date: Wed, August 24, 2011, 10:17:13 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, California...oh wait, NYC! (?)
A little "Toodle-oo" to start the festivities tonight perhaps?
Date: Wed, August 24, 2011, 10:13:36 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
Thanks "THE DEAN" preciate it!!
Date: Wed, August 24, 2011, 09:35:17 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
DYLYNFAN,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Baby
Date: Wed, August 24, 2011, 09:22:47 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
Call me a moron or naif, you wont be the first, but what is the connection between Ruby Baby and Mr. Leiber???? PS: my tribute
was to have a glass of "stoli on the rocks" in honor of his
long-time collaborater.
Date: Wed, August 24, 2011, 02:12:49 ET
Posted by: MikeA, Seattle
The Becker model Sadowsky guitar uses custom made Lollar P90 pickups. Lollar is out of Vashon Island near Seattle. I put some in one of my guitars a few years back and they kick ass.
MikeA
Date: Tues, August 23, 2011, 23:42:57 ET
Posted by: Cerpin Taxt, Boston
WOW.
That concert revue on donaldfagen.com is perfect. I'm glad to see that they want us to see that they "get it."
You know?
Date: Tues, August 23, 2011, 22:42:38 ET
Posted by: Augusta, DC Native
I know that this is not really related to Steely Dan, but I felt that quake today and it was frightening. I live in Arlington, VA. And there was damage to items in my home. We who are not used to the sort of California earthquakes are a little shook up by this. We are learning and respect what you guys in CA have experienced.
Date: Tues, August 23, 2011, 22:40:06 ET
Posted by: Technicolor Motorhome, Southern U S
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSlu1AwQud4
Nice medley from the Nashville show.
Did he pick up the little tube combo amp while in town? There are several vintage guitar/amp dealers in NashVegas I hear.
Date: Tues, August 23, 2011, 21:39:28 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Jive Miguel - Thanks for helping me put the quake into perspective comparing it to California events. It was a very unsettling thing having never experienced it before. The epicenter was about 30 miles northwest of where I live. It honestly sounded like a squadron of helicopters approaching and at one point I thought they were a hundred feet over the house and then the whole house did a major shimmy for about ten seconds and I realized what was going on. Very weird sensation.
Pixeleen,did you feel the same thing?.. I know you're pretty close to Richmond.
Oh yes, P-90s rule baby!!
Date: Tues, August 23, 2011, 16:40:38 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Well first a quake hits DC and now
scientists say Ecstasy (MDMA) kills
cancers cells. What a news day.
To bad most of the politicians were
out of town on a "much needed"
vacation (yeah right) and didn't get
the "scare".
In other news, with the passing of
Jerry Leiber I have a strong feeling
that some lucky audience might get
treated to a heartfelt and rockin'
"Ruby Baby" real soon.
Date: Tues, August 23, 2011, 16:19:42 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
California...tumbles into the sea...
Oops, sorry, I meant DC.
I was in Tysons Corner, McLean VA, 10 miles from downtown DC, bottom floor of a 10-story building. VERY intense shaker. Lived in SoCal and the Bay Area for 15 years, and this was right up there on the Out-Of-Control scale. I've been through a dozen or so of these episodes, and immediately knew what was going on, but just couldn't wrap the mind around an LA-style quake in DC. Same incredulity as watching a black, rotating wall cloud forming in front of my house in Sunnyvale, CA in May 1998, getting inside just in time, and seeing torn off roofs and mighty trees torn up from their roots in the aftermath of an EF-2 twister that touched down 4 blocks away.
Whew.
On another topic, saw that SD played 3 consecutive nights this past week, which the NEVER do.
Anyone know how Don's pipes are holding up?
Date: Tues, August 23, 2011, 16:16:10 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
I am shocked, no it was just Walter going jogging jokes???
Sorry Hoops couldnt help myself!!
Date: Tues, August 23, 2011, 15:56:32 ET
Posted by: Ghia Girl, NJ, heading to Annanadale
I was sitting on the Jersey Shore when the Earth moved. The second thing to go through my mind was, You got to shake it baby, you gotta shake it.!
Date: Tues, August 23, 2011, 15:50:21 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
Yeah, I guess it was felt up through Detroit, Toronto, Boston and parts of Rhode Island. At least it doesn't seem to cause much pain or damage. I read that a lot of people in DC are just wandering out of their offices and heading to the bars for an early end to the day. Sounds kinda nice, actually.
I had a few friends who felt it in Buffalo, but the majority didn't really feel anything. I know I didn't.
Was it bad for you Pixeleen?
Sorry for this being off topic. He started it!
Date: Tues, August 23, 2011, 14:52:53 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Hello boys and girls:
We just had a 5.9 earthquake here in central VA.
Hope all the Danfans are okay.
Date: Tues, August 23, 2011, 14:17:32 ET
Posted by: Franklin, U
This is why ticket prices are so high.
http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/article/20110823/NEWS02/108220325/Bard-College-aims-raise-more-than-half-billion-by-2015
Date: Tues, August 23, 2011, 07:59:14 ET
Posted by: WMD,
Walter seems to like that Gibson Firebird Non-Reverse body style very much. The Gibson Firebird comes in two styles, standard and non-reverse; the non-reverse model being a bit more of an artsy shape.
Standard Gibson Firebird. http://www.dawsons.co.uk/acatalog/00089917.jpg
Gibson Firebird non-reverse. http://www.guitarlifestyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/firebird-nr-studio.jpg
Date: Tues, August 23, 2011, 05:28:19 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, hummin' & strummin'
Re: Walt's new guitar
PGE,
Thanks for the links.
Seems like Walter has a strong love for the P90-type pickups.
Those are a kind of single coil pup's originally developed by Gibson, and which used to be the type used for their Les Paul's before they started to have humbuckers (double coil) on them.
His Sadowsky signature model, which is a strat-shaped instrument, also has some P90-type pup's.
The Kauer Banshee has a body with a shape inspired by the Gibson Explorer, a classic Gibson model used by U2's The Edge, amongst others.
The Banshee seems be a model no longer built by Kauer, but the Argonaut model that he got for testing seems like a piece of jewellery!
Date: Tues, August 23, 2011, 02:22:10 ET
Posted by: MikeA, Seattle
I must be a jinx. Everytime I wander off and stop following the BlueBook, some bullshit appears on it. Happens everytime. This time it had to do with the personal appearance of a band member. Thought this site was a study of the music and to have a few laughs along the way. Maybe some insightful debate. It's like a tabloid sometimes.
Found a $124 ticket in the nosebleeds at St. Louis for this Thursday. Might hangout with some real fans there....
Peace
MikeA
Date: Tues, August 23, 2011, 01:07:42 ET
Posted by: Guitars anybody?, Apparently Walter's got a new one
I'm no musician myself but thought this might interest especially guitar players here on the Blue.
Found the following post on The Gear Page discussion website from Doug Kauer of Kauer Guitars in Elk Grove, CA:
"I'm REALLY excited about this! 3 months ago word got back to me from one of my dealers that Walter Becker bought one of my 2xP90 Banshee's. Over the last couple months I'd been getting updates from his tour manager that he was starting to play it more live.
Well, I just happened to be here in Nashville the same time as Steely Dan. So I got to go down (along with Adam Grimm from Satellite) and catch sound check, meet his tech to go over some notes for some adjustments I'll make to the guitar after the tour and the real highlight, hand out with the man himself, Walter Becker!! I ended up leaving him with an Argonaut of mine to get some feedback on (so far really great!).
Anyways, highlight of the weekend, very cool moment for me, I just had to share!!
Oh and seeing one of my guitars getting played live (closed the show with it for Kid Charlemagne) was cool beyond words!!!"
Link to the thread:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?p=11290244
Kauer Guitars:
http://kauerguitars.com/
Congratulations to Doug and I hope he don't min me posting this.
/PGE
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 23:15:53 ET
Posted by: Bob,
Nick Ashford, RIP.
Maybe Donald will do a tribute to Ashford and Simpson.
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 22:38:05 ET
Posted by: Sad, A
RIP Jerry Leiber. Perhaps DF will have a contribution.
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 22:30:38 ET
Posted by: everything musty go, stay tuned
screw steely danm whatever. walter's fat, donald's voice is crap, the girls make weird hand gestures, hoops is still hoops, and the king of dan only cares about watching two guys beat the crap out of each other in a cage or something.
i mean, fuk, they do album nights for all the 3rd rate albums and not one for You Gotta Walk It Like You Talk It!
�anybody wanna buy a $300 coke can?
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 22:12:09 ET
Posted by: Marty, O
Practically every thing you do wrong and everything that is wrong with you contributes to weight gain. I just ate what looked to be a small bag of cashews. I then read the label: 180 calories per serving. Not bad, except the bag contained 6 "servings." I don't want to do the multiplication.
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 21:23:50 ET
Posted by: Web MD,
Well Walter did get hit by an NYC cab some years back, broke a bunch of bones and stuff, could be he's starting to feel the arthritis that's bound to occur from such an event. Doc might be giving him prednisone shots, which will immediately cause weight gain.
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 18:03:07 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston
I just read this post on utube under the studio version of FM
"I paid good money to see Steely Dan in Tuscaloosa last night and he did NOT play this song! I felt so ripped off! He also did not sing "Do It Again" or "Rikki Don't Lose That Number".. I was angry, disappointed, can't believe it.
That's funny
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 16:56:04 ET
Posted by: R. Nardella, Niihau, Hawaii
The deaths of Roger N. and someone else (non-public) have profoundly affected WB.
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 16:37:39 ET
Posted by: bustback mountain, weight gain hell
meds, depression, yeah all can lead to weight gain. So can just deciding to eat like a fiend because you want to.
But let's not forgot injury. I once busted a disc and between than and rehab from the eventual surgery it was almost a year when I hardly walked, let alone exercised. Can you guess I gained a few (ahem) pounds?
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 16:02:08 ET
Posted by: Fan, Ohio
Check out donaldfagen.com for an amusing concert review parody.
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 15:19:23 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Bel Air - At The Office, Ho Hum
Thanks boo for the confirmation on the
Music City setlist. When they sparked
up Black Cow and went into Aja didn't
you think, "Holy sh*t they are going
to do all of Aja for us tonight?"
I know I would have.
Thanks for all of the reports and
setlists from Bama. But I must say
I agree with DB16, I was surprised
to see how high in the running order
Deacon Blues was both nights. I would
have thought they would have stuck it
before My Old School, that seems like a
killer one, two punch when in Bama.
One question though, have they in fact
gone back to Last Tango like the Orange
Beach setlist says last night?
I hope not, I was really looking forward
to hearing The Untouchables Theme.
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 12:43:41 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis
Dean:
"On the positive side, for those attending the Beacon shows, the schedule looks to be much lighter in September. With any luck, Don will be able to rest his voice a bit before hitting the Apple. I hope he is in good voice for all you lucky enough to be at the shows."
I hope they are taking the break before Beacon to rest Don's vocals, rehearse up the rarities and get ready to...dare I say... record some of the nights to include in a 40 year anniversary set next year!!! We can only hope, but I doubt it from past experience.
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 12:17:36 ET
Posted by: Jenny Craig, lol
Listen to KD! The man knows from experience what it's like to be skinny one day and fat the next!
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 12:03:58 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
DYLYNFAN... I was using your sources, obviously. I think it's very realistic.
I enjoyed the Bills tickets post. Although just thinking about going to a home game makes me queasy. I'd sacrifice going to every Buffalo sporting event for the rest of my life in exchange for the worst seat in the house at the Beacon in September.
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 11:02:00 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
Sorry to go back to back, but if my source is accurate YOUNG WU
FROM BUFFALO is going to win the contest for the RARITIES NIGHT!!
Winning this gets YOUNG WU 2 tickets to every Bills home game
if he loses he wins 4 tickets to every home game!! Could not
resist, I think the Bills will be lucky to win three games!!
ps: what farm animal is in the picture that Chan Gailey must
possess,with Ralph Wilson?? Look-up re-tread in the dictionary
and there surely must be a picture of Chan Gailey!!! Sorry to go
off topic I know that is what espn.com is for, please forgive!!
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 10:48:55 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
Have to agree with Luke in Denver abouth the back-ups in 1996
although I was not able to attend any of the shows, from what
I have seen and heard the back-up vocals were not real good (imho)
That said the set-list were terrific!!! If I were king for a day
I would have Donald sing all the leads!! However I understand his
voice need rest!! Parkers band blows wiht the ladies singing it!!
I would even rather Walter have a go at it!! Dont mean to sound
mysoganistic, the women play a key role with excellent back-up
singing, as well as cleaning and cooking on tour!!!!!!
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 10:09:06 ET
Posted by: Michael,
bikemann, perhaps Donald is revamping his vocal style with a more rugged, hard-edged delivery, maybe taking a cue from Ray Charles?
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 09:55:44 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
bikemann,
Keep in mind right now The Dan is in the middle of a very heavily scheduled segment of the tour. They did three straight nights in Alabama (although that video was from night #2). And there have been very few nights off during August.
On the positive side, for those attending the Beacon shows, the schedule looks to be much lighter in September. With any luck, Don will be able to rest his voice a bit before hitting the Apple. I hope he is in good voice for all you lucky enough to be at the shows.
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 09:51:48 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick
Could you give up the thread on Walter's weight? Or at least give your own height, weight, age, gender, coronary health history and good-to-bad cholesterol ratio before posting first, OK? And you people who say (I can't remember who specifically), "I wish this thread would end, he looks like he's --lbs," you know, when you do that, you simply perpetuate the thread. And yes, as someone snarkily posted, Walter did make a crack about his weight recently, at least at the Ravina show I attended. During the Hey Nineteen outro, he quickly made a crack something like (not exactly) "And you must be thinking, why have I gained so much weight," etc.
I don't think most of you like it when your mate or your parent discusses your weight...I mean really, why on a third rate chat board like the Blue? Could be anything from meds to depression to...leave it alone.
Fly low and be cool, OK?
Jim
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 09:33:19 ET
Posted by: bikemann, nj
Listened to Green earrings posted and it does sound like Donald will be loosing his voice just in time for the NY shows. Very sad when I was at the Beacon last time around and got to hear the great DR WU but almost nothing was comming out of his mouth.
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 09:17:34 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gWVNJ9EMf0
Very nice sounding Green Earrings from 'Bama 08/20; shot from the back of the venue. The Donald has a great gruff/raspiness to his voice, almost sounds like someone else singing. Lots of energy from all.
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 09:17:22 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gWVNJ9EMf0
Very nice sounding Green Earrings from 'Bama 08/20; shot from the back of the venue. The Donald has a great gruff/raspiness to his voice, almost sounds like someone else singing. Lots of energy from all.
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 08:56:58 ET
Posted by: Crimson Tide Man, Sweet Home Alabama
August 21 Amphitheater At The Wharf, Orange Beach, AL
Dizzy's Bidness (Instrumental Intro)
Your Gold Teeth
Aja
Black Friday
Hey Nineteen
Green Earrings
Deacon Blues
Time Out Of Mind
Show Biz Kids
Bodhisattva
Black Cow
Godwhacker
Home At Last
Papa Don't Take No Mess (James Brown cover)(Band Intros by Walter Becker)
Dirty Work (Vocals by The Embassy Brats)
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Reelin' In The Years
Encore:
Kid Charlemagne
Last Tango In Paris (Instrumental Outro)
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 04:19:26 ET
Posted by: KD, C
This isn't to say that there should be things that are off-limits here. Though it doesn't have anything to do with the band, Walter's weight gain (for concerned fans of his) is noticeable and I think most of us are being adults about it. It's not 300, but it ain't 200 either.
With that in place, is there anything wrong with sort of ending the thread, at this point? We see what's up, and I don't really see much beyond what has already been posted here that will serve in any function useful for readers of the Blue, or even Sir Walter himself.
Date: Mon, August 22, 2011, 01:32:31 ET
Posted by: Marty, O
Has Walter been wearing a black shirt at every show? That would indicate that he's at least aware of the added poundage. You don't gain it overnight nor can you lose it overnight. He'll get on it.
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 23:50:11 ET
Posted by: Web MD,
People who are nervous or depressed tend to eat more because digestion requires energy and has the effect of relaxing or calming you.
If anything ever happens to Walter it's going to be a sad day for Steely Dan, because he has always been one who has been the most receptive to the fans. Walter is the one who is more like you and me. Yeah, you could hang out with Walter... Don? Well, it depends.
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 22:49:04 ET
Posted by: moray eel, can it
This is a current picture of Walter:
http://beta.toledoblade.com/image/2011/07/21/800x_b1_cCM_z_%232235/Walter-Becker.jpg
I think the picture speaks for itself. I apologize for expressing my concerns regarding his health. If everyone wants to believe he is spry and weighs less than 200 pounds, I won't argue with them. It's been three days, can we move on?
m.e.
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 22:15:57 ET
Posted by: Denise , Hinktown
Thanks, L.Ray, it's the one CD I don't have (yet)!
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 21:28:37 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Thanks for the confirmation about the Nashville setlist and sorry for my skepticism. The fact that they opened with Black Cow is both cool and interesting to me.
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 20:05:33 ET
Posted by: Jim, Baton Rouge
I just want to verify that the Friday, August 19 show in Nashville did indeed start with "Black Cow."
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 19:38:57 ET
Posted by: boo1, Nashville
Was fortunate to be at the Nashville show and yes, can confirm, as a diehard SD fan and Black Cow being one of my favs, that in fact, the Nashville set list posted below is correct! FANTASTIC show, a privilege to see them!
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 19:31:16 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
20 "Rarities" possibilities, alphabetically:
Bad Sneakers
Boston Rag
Caves...
Cousin Dupree
Daddy Don't Live...
Chain Lightning
Dr Wu
Everything You Did
Gaslighting Abbie
Glamour Profession
Haitian Divorce
Janie Runaway
Monkey...
Night by Night
Parker's Band
Rikki
Royal Scam
Sign in Stranger
Things I Miss the Most
2VN
They've played each of these live at one time or another
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 19:14:42 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
Papa, in the House... I was doing a realistic setlist. You can't possibly think your set is in any way realistic in the slightest, right??
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 17:55:19 ET
Posted by: PGE, Twitter news: Alec Baldwin suggests Steely Dan...
...as suitable music while redoing a room
http://twitter.com/#!/AlecBaldwin/status/105360408059183105
;)
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 17:50:15 ET
Posted by: shark, weighing in
Brian Wilson weighed 340 lbs at his worst. He was HUGE. Garcia never got close to that size, and certainly not Walter. C'mon!
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 17:46:01 ET
Posted by: Papa, in the House
Oh my gosh, those are your rarities set lists?! I think I would be disappointed with those. Here's mine:
The Second Arrangement
The Bear
Barrytown
Kulee Baba
Kind Spirit
Midnite Cruiser
Talkin' 'bout My Home
Razor Boy
I Can't Write Home About You
Standing by the Seawall
Mr. Sam
Pixeleen
I Got The News (Katy Lied Outtakes version)
Doctor Wu
Almost Gothic
Oh, Wow It's You Again
Fire In The Hole
Stone Piano
Bad Sneakers
Take It Out On Me
Brain Tap Shuffle
Throw Back The Little Ones
Don't Let Me In
Do It Again
I Idolize You
The Caves of Altamira
Dallas
What A Shame About Me
Negative Girl
Sail The Waterway
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 17:22:03 ET
Posted by: SteelyDirector, NOLA
I was also at the Tuscaloosa show last night, and can confirm DeaconBlues16's setlist. The band was, indeed, hotso; the night, thank goodness, notso. The overcast sky and periodic light breeze helped a lot.
I also thought Don sounded a little raspy, but that was what, at least his 3rd straight show in as many days (maybe more)? He was a little too buried in the mix for my taste. Also it seemed the bass was a bit overdriven at times, occasionally sounding like a blown speaker. I'm sure Walt was none too happy with his instrument-related issues, having to swap out his guitar during...I forget: was it "Black Friday"? Walter also never seemed to have a proper spotlight shining on him during his solos; it always seemed to stay on Herington.
This was also my 5th or 6th Steely Dan show, but my first at this particular venue. I've definitely heard better technical quality from other venue sound systems, but I agree with others that I've never heard better technical quality from the band itself. These guys put on a great show last night; too bad the equipment couldn't keep up. They certainly played a longer-than-expected setlist, and Don and Walt seemed more talkative and animated than usual. They seemed to be having a good time, and that carried over into the crowd.
As a drummer myself, I especially enjoyed fellow Mississippian Keith Carlock's performance on the skins. He is indeed a monster, combining raw power and finesse, which is a tough row to hoe.
Walter's "Cuervo Gold" story is by now a fixture at every show, but I really enjoyed his new twist on band introductions during "Papa Don't Take No Mess". But unless I missed it, Walt himself was the only one who didn't get any sort of introduction. I expected Don to make some reference to his partner of "lo, these many years" at the end of the song, but it didn't happen.
As mentioned, you just knew that "Deacon Blues" was going to be part of the setlist, considering the location. Wouldn't be surprised if they bust it out in Orange Beach tonight, too. I saw them there during the 2009 tour; if you're attending tonight, enjoy!
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 16:16:34 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
Ok, here's my realist Rarities night:
The Boston Rag
Aja
Your Gold Teeth
Black Friday
Bad Sneakers
Pearl of the Quarter
IGY
Time Out of Mind
The Bear
Doctor Wu
Bodhisattva
Dirty Work
Intros
Throw Back the Little Ones
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Reelin' in the Years
Kid Charlamange
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 15:54:52 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Haha, I won't be making the journey down south as I already have a commitment tonight, but Walter did invite all the attendees down to Orange Beach when they came back on for the encore.
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 15:44:38 ET
Posted by: Buzzdildo, Barrytown
Rarities setlist:
King of the world
Rose Darling
Through with Buzz
The Second Arrangement
Your Gold Teeth II (74 live version)
Negative Girl
Everyone's gone to the movies
Razor Boy
Pearl of The Quarter
Mock Turtle song
Charlie Freak
Just to keep people happy:
Reelin in the years
Do it again
Don't take me alive
Bodhisattva
encore:
This all too mobile home
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 15:32:36 ET
Posted by: Buzzdildo, Barrytown
yes
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 15:28:33 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Thanks for the report and "accurate"
setlist DB16. We'll have to wait and
see if any different versions of the
Nashville set list appear. So your
not going to push that 5 hour drive
to Orange Beach to make tonight's
show?
Denise,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alive_in_America
You can probably go to Amazon Market Place
and pick one up for 51 cents, no kidding.
Ghia Girl,
Usually there is code among men not to
"out" your horn section! ;O)
I also agree with Dean about the 1996 Tour.
Great setlist and Wayne Krantz.
The Donald Fagen 2006 Solo Tour only had
2 gals and that is my favorite tour ever.
Perhaps there is a clause in Wayne's
contracts, he only seems to play with 2 gals.
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 14:33:19 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
I saw the '96 tour and I wasn't disappointed with the girls at all. I thought they sounded great.
I like three better than two (particularly when they are the three currently with the band), but two doesn't "kill" the show, IMO.
The only negative I ever have with the girls is I find their hand gestures a bit hokey and off-putting. But who cares, really? They sound great, and that's what is important.
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 12:03:43 ET
Posted by: luke, denver
"How could ANYTHING ruin Wayne Krantz?" Laura...I never said anything about Krantz. Did you even see any of the shows on the 1996 tour? Probably not. The girls killed it. It had nothing to do with Krantz.
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 10:44:56 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
A few more comments...
I haven't been on here for the past two or three days until when I posted the setlist because I didn't want to see the Nashville setlist in case there were any new surprises (and obviously I've spoiled myself by recording most of the setlists on this tour and the previous one). So, now I've had a chance to see all the posts that I missed, and I'd like to make a few comments on some of those.
First of all, in regards to the Nashville setlist, did they really open up with Black Cow? I know they've done that before on "Aja nights," but did the poster make a mistake and mean Your Gold Teeth? If they didn't play Black Cow at all and opened with Your Gold Teeth, the setlist is very similar to the Tuscaloosa show, except the order is slightly different and Do It Again was played instead of Black Cow. If they did actually open with Black Cow, I apologize for calling the poster out for no reason.
Lurker Ray, thanks for the well-wishes. I did have a great time, and while I don't think my report was too in-depth, I hope it suffices (although I will have a few more comments on it in this post).
Regarding the Green Earrings/overall songs from the Royal Scam discussion... apart from Kid Charlemagne, Green Earrings is probably their most played song from The Royal Scam. They've played it as part of their set, albeit not necessarily as a permanent fixture in the setlist like Hey Nineteen, in every tour since 1993, if I'm not mistaken. With last night's show under my belt, I've attended 5 Steely Dan shows in my lifetime, all since 2006. At all 5 of those shows, they've played Green Earrings, which is more than I've heard FM, My Old School, or Deacon Blues. I'd have to say that Green Earrings is my least favorite song from Royal Scam (not that I don't like it, I just like the other 8 songs better), but with it's funky jam, room for improvisational solos, and minimal lyrics, I can understand why they choose to play it live so frequently.
As far as the other songs on Royal Scam go, Kid Charlemagne is played at just about every show, as we all are very well aware, and Don't Take Me Alive has been a significant part of tours past, although it has yet to make an appearance this year unfortunately. Moving on, The Caves of Altamira was played in 2003 and 2007, but I guess at some point in 2007 they decided it didn't work that well live or discarded it for other reasons. In some versions of it I've heard in 2009, Donald Fagen forgets the lyrics to it a little bit, and that could be part of the reason. Everything You Did was only part of the 2008 setlist, but I really, really liked the versions of it that I've heard and wish that it would become a "non-hit" setlist staple, like Godwhacker or Show Biz Kids. The title track of Royal Scam seems to work well at certain points in the show (i.e. opening a set), but it's hard to picture it working well in the middle of the show for some reason, excluding Royal Scam album nights. Haitian Divorce, as we know, was sung by Walter in 2003, and maybe in some 2007 shows as well? Anyway, as Walter's lead vocals role has diminished this year and I guess the fact that Donald felt he needed to sing it to make the 2009 Royal Scam nights more "authentic", Haitian Divorce has a very low chance to make it to a regular setlist I think, which is a shame since it's such a great song. Sign in Stranger, while also a great song, is kind of like The Caves of Altamira, in the sense that it might not have a great live energy. While it was rewarding to hear the "original" version of Sign in Stranger in 2009, I feel like the Alive in America version has a much better energy, and they aren't bringing that back any time soon. As for the Fez, considering that Donald and Walter reportedly left the stage for this song during the 2009 Royal Scam shows, I wouldn't expect this to ever be played live during a regular show, except as part of an instrumental medley introduction song.
To cap this discussion, as some others have pointed out, it would make sense for them work out some of their lesser played Royal Scam shows at a few regular setlist shows if 2009 is any indication. But my hypothesis is that they feel like they can play those songs (Sign in Stranger, Haitian Divorce, Everything You Did et al) at Royal Scam shows without "testing" them out (in contrast to 2009 where they did just that at some of their early shows), and they aren't going to play those songs in their regular setlist because they don't fit as well in the set, don't have a great live energy or simply don't want to play them.
Back to the Dirty Work discussion, they did re-introduce that in 2000 as a vehicle for the background vocalists and have alternated it with Parker's Band as the "token background vocalists song" since then. It would seem that they could add some other songs for the background vocalists to take, like Brooklyn, but I guess they aren't interested. Of course, no complaints here as far as Dirty Work is concerned. As I said, that was one of the highlights of the show for some of my friends who aren't as big Steely Dan fans as me.
A few more brief comments about last nights show... Donald Fagen's voice seemed a bit raspier than usual at times, but he still put on a great performance. Walter Becker's not nearly as fat as some people are making him out to be. To clarify what I said about the sound, there were a couple of times where some of the instruments blasted out some of the other instruments (i.e. the horns were a bit too loud during part of the Green Earrings guitar solo), but for the most part, you could hear what you needed to hear. Only songs I haven't heard live before: Deacon Blues, Home At Last (like I said this is "only" my 5th show), and of course, Your Gold Teeth. They really are featuring the horn section more this year; for most of their solos, the guys playing the solos came up to the center of the stage, which I guess many of you knew already. This new "Texas-style" version of Black Friday, which I think has been around since 2008, doesn't get enough credit, in my opinion. Most importantly, as I stated before, this was a great show, and I had a blast. My friends, who as I've said aren't nearly as big of SD fans as me, enjoyed it more than they were expecting as well.
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 10:44:55 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
A few more comments...
I haven't been on here for the past two or three days until when I posted the setlist because I didn't want to see the Nashville setlist in case there were any new surprises (and obviously I've spoiled myself by recording most of the setlists on this tour and the previous one). So, now I've had a chance to see all the posts that I missed, and I'd like to make a few comments on some of those.
First of all, in regards to the Nashville setlist, did they really open up with Black Cow? I know they've done that before on "Aja nights," but did the poster make a mistake and mean Your Gold Teeth? If they didn't play Black Cow at all and opened with Your Gold Teeth, the setlist is very similar to the Tuscaloosa show, except the order is slightly different and Do It Again was played instead of Black Cow. If they did actually open with Black Cow, I apologize for calling the poster out for no reason.
Lurker Ray, thanks for the well-wishes. I did have a great time, and while I don't think my report was too in-depth, I hope it suffices (although I will have a few more comments on it in this post).
Regarding the Green Earrings/overall songs from the Royal Scam discussion... apart from Kid Charlemagne, Green Earrings is probably their most played song from The Royal Scam. They've played it as part of their set, albeit not necessarily as a permanent fixture in the setlist like Hey Nineteen, in every tour since 1993, if I'm not mistaken. With last night's show under my belt, I've attended 5 Steely Dan shows in my lifetime, all since 2006. At all 5 of those shows, they've played Green Earrings, which is more than I've heard FM, My Old School, or Deacon Blues. I'd have to say that Green Earrings is my least favorite song from Royal Scam (not that I don't like it, I just like the other 8 songs better), but with it's funky jam, room for improvisational solos, and minimal lyrics, I can understand why they choose to play it live so frequently.
As far as the other songs on Royal Scam go, Kid Charlemagne is played at just about every show, as we all are very well aware, and Don't Take Me Alive has been a significant part of tours past, although it has yet to make an appearance this year unfortunately. Moving on, The Caves of Altamira was played in 2003 and 2007, but I guess at some point in 2007 they decided it didn't work that well live or discarded it for other reasons. In some versions of it I've heard in 2009, Donald Fagen forgets the lyrics to it a little bit, and that could be part of the reason. Everything You Did was only part of the 2008 setlist, but I really, really liked the versions of it that I've heard and wish that it would become a "non-hit" setlist staple, like Godwhacker or Show Biz Kids. The title track of Royal Scam seems to work well at certain points in the show (i.e. opening a set), but it's hard to picture it working well in the middle of the show for some reason, excluding Royal Scam album nights. Haitian Divorce, as we know, was sung by Walter in 2003, and maybe in some 2007 shows as well? Anyway, as Walter's lead vocals role has diminished this year and I guess the fact that Donald felt he needed to sing it to make the 2009 Royal Scam nights more "authentic", Haitian Divorce has a very low chance to make it to a regular setlist I think, which is a shame since it's such a great song. Sign in Stranger, while also a great song, is kind of like The Caves of Altamira, in the sense that it might not have a great live energy. While it was rewarding to hear the "original" version of Sign in Stranger in 2009, I feel like the Alive in America version has a much better energy, and they aren't bringing that back any time soon. As for the Fez, considering that Donald and Walter reportedly left the stage for this song during the 2009 Royal Scam shows, I wouldn't expect this to ever be played live during a regular show, except as part of an instrumental medley introduction song.
To cap this discussion, as some others have pointed out, it would make sense for them work out some of their lesser played Royal Scam shows at a few regular setlist shows if 2009 is any indication. But my hypothesis is that they feel like they can play those songs (Sign in Stranger, Haitian Divorce, Everything You Did et al) at Royal Scam shows without "testing" them out (in contrast to 2009 where they did just that at some of their early shows), and they aren't going to play those songs in their regular setlist because they don't fit as well in the set, don't have a great live energy or simply don't want to play them.
Back to the Dirty Work discussion, they did re-introduce that in 2000 as a vehicle for the background vocalists and have alternated it with Parker's Band as the "token background vocalists song" since then. It would seem that they could add some other songs for the background vocalists to take, like Brooklyn, but I guess they aren't interested. Of course, no complaints here as far as Dirty Work is concerned. As I said, that was one of the highlights of the show for some of my friends who aren't as big Steely Dan fans as me.
A few more brief comments about last nights show... Donald Fagen's voice seemed a bit raspier than usual at times, but he still put on a great performance. Walter Becker's not nearly as fat as some people are making him out to be. To clarify what I said about the sound, there were a couple of times where some of the instruments blasted out some of the other instruments (i.e. the horns were a bit too loud during part of the Green Earrings guitar solo), but for the most part, you could hear what you needed to hear. Only songs I haven't heard live before: Deacon Blues, Home At Last (like I said this is "only" my 5th show), and of course, Your Gold Teeth. They really are featuring the horn section more this year; for most of their solos, the guys playing the solos came up to the center of the stage, which I guess many of you knew already. This new "Texas-style" version of Black Friday, which I think has been around since 2008, doesn't get enough credit, in my opinion. Most importantly, as I stated before, this was a great show, and I had a blast. My friends, who as I've said aren't nearly as big of SD fans as me, enjoyed it more than they were expecting as well.
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 10:17:26 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown
Thanks. It was lovely.
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 10:16:20 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, @Denise
Re: Book Of Liars live
Warren Bernhardt played piano.
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 09:23:56 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown
Jive Miguel, thanks for posting the link to Book of Liars. I've never heard a live version and it souded very fine on this summer morning. Who was on the piano?
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 09:21:43 ET
Posted by: Ghia Girl, NJ
Luther Ray,
I was also in attendance to Jon's concert in Mystic. What I found hysterical about Jon's discussion was that he called the horn bus the porn bus.
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 01:17:49 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
Deacon,
Many thanks for the set list and review.
Saw my 10th show since '94 (9 + Fagen '06) at Musikfest in Bethlehem PA on 8/10/11. Kicking off with Dizzy's and Gold Teeth was amazing. I say it every year, I know, but this is genuinely the best they've ever sounded. Almost defies description.
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 00:47:07 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Steely Dan August 20th, 2011 Tuscaloosa, AL
Setlist
1. Dizzy's Bidness (first note approximately 8:52 PM central time)
2. Your Gold Teeth
3. Aja
4. Black Friday
5. Hey Nineteen
6. Green Earrings
7. Deacon Blues
8. Time Out of Mind
9. Show Biz Kids
10. Bodhisattva
11. Black Cow
12. Godwhacker
13. Home At Last
14. Papa Don't Take No Mess/Band Intros
15. Dirty Work
16. Josie
17. Peg
18. My Old School
19. Reelin' in the Years
20. Kid Charlemagne (Encore)
21. Untouchables Theme (Outro, last note approximately 11:15)
Quick thoughts:
Show began at 8 with Sam Yahel trio; they played until 8:30 or so. It felt like a really long wait before the Miles High Big Band took the stage, and I got a little restless. I really enjoyed the single-file line of the horn section during Dizzy's Bidness for some reason. Deacon Blues obviously received huge cheers, especially during the Crimson Tide line, as well as a standing ovation, but it came a little earlier in the set than I was expecting. Bodhisattva got a nice reception; my friends (who aren't nearly as big of Steely Dan fans as me) really liked Bodhisattva and Dirty Work. Of course, they felt the show really came alive beginning with Dirty Work and were really thrilled to hear Reelin' in the Years. Deacon Blues, Black Friday, and Show Biz Kids were probably my favorite moments of the set. Walter's Hey Nineteen story pretty much was the norm; I was wondering of he would reference the University of Alabama, but he didn't. I think he almost referenced the April 27th tornadoes that hit Tuscaloosa, but then he ended up saying something to get away from that. Loved Papa Don't Take No Mess for the band intros. Very pleased with the setlist, much to other posters' chagrins I'm sure. I think 21 total songs is the most that's been played on this tour so far (of course including the intro, outro, and band intro songs), and we got that in Tuscaloosa. Great show, good venue, a few odd moments with the sound I thought, but overall, the sound was good. I can't complain at all, and I'm very happy right now.
Date: Sun, August 21, 2011, 00:44:21 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
Just spent a bundle on a new home theatre system with PSB Synchrony, sub and surround, and a Rega Apollo cd player. Naturally, had to check out SD first and foremost. The engineering is unbelievable, especially the use of the Wurlitzer on Almost Gothic and Blues Beach (whole new appreciation). Negative Girl is amazing. To my mind, these are purely studio songs.
BTW, finally found Book of Liars on You Tube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg7SiroBKJI
This was performed live at the first SD concert I attended in Irvine CA, 9/1994, and was recorded for Alive in America.
Researching the lineup of musicians, I was surprised to find that the great Embassy Brat, Catherine Russell was one of the members of what Don referred to as "The Choir" on the '94 tour:
http://www.steelydan.com/aiacredits.html
What goes around....
Date: Sat, August 20, 2011, 22:01:12 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, night cappin'
Thanks, Ray!
There is of course good reasons why Phoebe and Bonnie became world acknowledged singers with their own successful careers.
Hard to match any of them.
But the Brats sure deliever the goods, too!
And they're only getting better. Life is good.
Date: Sat, August 20, 2011, 21:37:38 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu - On The Veranda Contemplating A 'Dirty' Martini w/SantaBarbara Olives
Jazz,
To the best of my knowledge Dirty Work
first appeared in Tokyo on May 14 2000.
And I just quickly listened to an early
2000 boot I have and it's all there,
Michael's solo and all.
Though I totally agree that the gals
sing the shit out it now. Though my
favorite version still is Phoebe's
live take. Not even the Brats can match
her or Bonnie Raitt for that matter
IMHO.
Date: Sat, August 20, 2011, 19:50:19 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Dirtyworking
And yes, I know I did see them in 2000, and that Dirty Work was on the setlist that year, but I must admit my memory fails on me on whether the new arr. was used...
Date: Sat, August 20, 2011, 19:40:22 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, the castle in the corner
I wonder if anyone here can tell me when SD first played Dirty Work in its "modern" version with the altered chord structure, those clever little things that comes after each chorus (B Maj - Am6 - B maj - Em7 - F#7 - Bm ?), and the part where Michael usually have a trumpet solo?
I suppose they did that thing from day one when the first re-intrduced Dirty Work as a highlight for the female backup singers, sometimes between 2000-2003, but exactly when?
Or did they actually do it sometimes back in the '90s?
Just wondering.
It's such a great song, and the "new" version has a fantastic dynamic quality to it.
Date: Sat, August 20, 2011, 18:48:27 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, my not at all mobile home
I know that I too aired out a bit of worrying concerning the future of Steely Dan only a few weeks ago, but think if we're to continue discussing those hypothetical possibilities that none of us has any real knowledge of, the least we can do is not to get a hangup on trying to calculate Mr. Becker's weight.
He may have put on some pounds ok, but he sure is no Solomon Burke.
And he had his stool onstage as early as 2003 (visible in the Costa Mesa 06 23 2003 Concert boot), so that's old news.
Date: Sat, August 20, 2011, 18:41:05 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Last night in Music City started
the only time this tour that Donald
will have to push his voice 3 nights
in a row without the usual rest of at
least 1 day after two shows.
This is the first time since October
2009 when he pulled a 3 nighter in
San Fran. So let's be careful out there
Don ;O)
One thing is for sure, there will be two
rousing takes of Deacon Blues tonight and
tomorrow night and most of the crowds will
be cheering even though they truly don't
know the story behind the song and it's main
protagonist. But who cares? Sounds like
great fun and I wish I could be there,
especially tomorrow night by the Gulf.
The other thing that is for sure is that
we will get a great and in depth report
tonight from DB16. Looking forward to it
and have a great show DB16, I know you will.
Thanks for the setlist from Music City.
I take it The Untouchables Theme is still
closing the show now?
Date: Sat, August 20, 2011, 18:21:57 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!
Nicholas, I don't think YGT II has ever been played on this tour. It has been mis-reported from time to time as YGT II. It has always been YGT as far as I know.
I have bloated to 250 and Walter is nowhere near as fat as I currently am.
Date: Sat, August 20, 2011, 18:00:32 ET
Posted by: Fezzie, Boston
Anyone here that believes Walter is 350lbs is just flat wrong!!!! At my heaviest last year at this time i was 250lbs and i'll bet a dollar to donuts that was 50 lbs more than Walter is today.I saw him at Tanglewood up close and personal and yes he has put on a little around the middle but nothing near the poundage put forth by the weight patrol!!! For the record,i have dropped 55 lbs total in the last nine month's,i would not suggest the method but it's gone and i'm better for it and Walter looks no larger than i am now at 195-200lbs.Walter 350 lbs!!!!lol....Skinny Fezzie
Date: Sat, August 20, 2011, 15:14:40 ET
Posted by: laura, general hospital
How could ANYTHING ruin Wayne Krantz? I'll take the 1996 set list and Wayne Krantz any day.
Date: Sat, August 20, 2011, 13:46:49 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, soon...
Not the greatest seat locations; both posters seemed to be in the same section/row! Been a while for some vids so here goes Nashville: Aja, Peg, Dirty Work, Bodhi and Joe Z-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-o5ewDPVnE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf2nl3JELFk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPmpDSkIoh4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1cln0yzBRI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iitYWLgQB5c
Date: Sat, August 20, 2011, 12:48:48 ET
Posted by: luke, denver
The girls killed the 1996 tour. Carolyn was still trying to find her voice at that time, and Michelle Wiley was absolutely horrible! I guess the band was trying to save money by only using two back up singers. And boy, did that back fire on them!
Date: Sat, August 20, 2011, 12:11:16 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
No YGT-II ?
Date: Sat, August 20, 2011, 07:03:58 ET
Posted by: Mike, Nashville
Steely Dan concert -- Nashville�
August 19, 2011
The Woods at Fontanel
Black Cow
Aja
Black Friday
Hey Nineteen (Walt story - Cueva Gold)
Green Earrings
Deacon Blue
Time Out Of Mind
Show Business Kids
Bodhisattva
Do It Again
Godwacker
Dirty Work
Papa Don't Take No Mess (Walt band intros)
Home At Last
Josie
Peg
Reelin' In the Years
My Old School
Kid Charlemagne (encore)
Date: Sat, August 20, 2011, 01:20:15 ET
Posted by: Technicolor Motorhome, Southern U S
Any idea what they played in Nashville tonight? It was the first SD show there since 1993.
Date: Sat, August 20, 2011, 01:14:51 ET
Posted by: Archie Bunker, those were the days
was reading through some old newspapers and found a review of a 1973 Steely Dan concert....they were playing 'Change of the Guard' as an encore!!!
wonder if Roger Nichols estate hase a tape of this...would be cool to hear Skunk live!
Date: Sat, August 20, 2011, 00:38:51 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
Oh, but Greg... I also wanted to say that I agree with what you said 100%. They should throw around some stuff from Gaucho and Royal Scam if they are gonna play it anyways. Just one a night even. Plus, they do it for Aja, why not the others? But yeah, great idea.
...I swear if they stop touring before I see Glamour Profession live, I'm gonna kill myself. My best bet was in 2008, when they were switching between that one and Aja near the end of the set.
Date: Sat, August 20, 2011, 00:35:15 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
Greg M... Green Earrings has been played a few times this tour, including the opening show. I think that's their go to song from The Royal Scam after Don't Take Me Alive and obviously Kid Charlamange.
To be honest, I think I'd rather hear any other song, save for The Fez. Maybe it's just because I've heard it so many times, but when you got powerhouses like Sign in Stranger on that album, show off a little.
But what do I know? It used to open shows in the 90s when they were packing arenas, so it must be useful.
Date: Sat, August 20, 2011, 00:07:35 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains, NY
So they have Royal Scam night and Gaucho night coming up.
What boggles the mind is that they don't work up some of the lesser-played songs from those albums on non-album nights.
Of course I'm not DF or WB, but don't you think it would make sense for them to play a My Rival, or the Fez, or some of those odd tunes beforehand, live, just to get a feel for them? Such that when album night comes along, the songs are already worked-up and ready to flow.
I see they threw in Green Earrings recently (unless that was a false pose - I don't even know what to believe anymore). That a start in the right direction IMO.
Maybe it makes the album nights all the more special that they DON'T play those cuts until it's time. Keeps the band on their toes. Who knows.
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 20:09:39 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
I'd love to hear these dudes perform Chain Lightning. Straight ahead blues, a great palette for the Brats, and plenty of openings for Herington and horn solos.
BTW, I am honored and humbled to have the great privilege of having my review of the 8/10/11 Bethlehem PA Musikfest gig published in NJ's rocker, The Aquarian. Could have written a few thousand words, but limited to a mere 640.
Not sure of the publication date, but "soon".
No professional writing experience, but this one's from the heart.
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 19:17:46 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
zoomlv - aka steely dad,
Come to think of it I think
"Ruby Baby" was actually played
3 times at the start of the 1996
Art Crimes Tour.
Correct me if I'm wrong,
Opening night in Charleston on July 5
2nd night in Virginia Beach on July 6
And for a third and final time July 7
in Raleigh.
They also closed those first three rare
nights with "Rikki" as the final encore.
What a night. I still think "Rikki" kills
an an encore. Especially with the "Podunk
Hollar Hits" crowd. I could easily see a
"Reelin', Rikki, My Old School" feeding
frenzy this year.
I think "Ruby Baby" would also be prime
"Rarities Night" material.
Or maybe that's just me.
Have a great weekend buddy.
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 19:16:56 ET
Posted by: Michael, @An Old Friend
The rarities concert should include the following songs:
Almost Gothic
Dr Wu
Green Book
Throw Back The Little Ones
The Second Arrangement
Kulee Baba
You Got The Bear
I Can't Write Home About You
etc.
How the setlist will actually look:
Aja
Black Cow
Hey Nineteen
Your Gold Teeth
Time Out of Mind
Show Biz Kids
Bodhisattva
Godwhacker
Dirty Work
Josie
Peg
Black Friday
Reelin' in the Years
*encore*
Kid Charlemagne
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 19:00:10 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains
Here's to a big +1 on mikethebaker's dream setlist.
It's pretty rad.
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 18:35:40 ET
Posted by: shark de ville, up on the hill
steelydad you rock. thanks for the tunes!
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 18:31:00 ET
Posted by: An Old Friend, West of The Washington Zoo
I'm thinking that the rarities show is going to draw predominately from this list:
Bad Sneakers
Boston Rag
Chain Lightning
Daddy Don't Live In That New York City No More
Do It Again
Doctor Wu
Glamour Profession
Greenbook
Jack of Speed
Lunch with Gina
Monkey in Your Soul
My Rival
Night by Night
Parker's Band
Pretzel Logic
Razor Boy
Rikki Don't Lose That Number
Sign In Stranger
The Caves of Altamira
The Royal Scam
True Companion
West of Hollywood
I'm thinking that The Bear is going to be the one and only unreleased/mythic gem that will be revealed (re-revealed?) and that there is like zero chance of hearing The Second Arrangement, Kulee Baba, etc.
And quite honestly, I'm thinking there are a whole bunch of songs listed above that I would much rather hear than those anyway.
What do you think?
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 17:36:32 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Couldn't agree more with Fife.
I also don't think he is even
close to 250. But who cares?
I'd much rather see him "eating"
than at his 1978 "Heroin Chic"
weight. Just take another look
at the Greatest Hits gatefold pic.
Jesus, you could have stuffed him
in that small spinet behind him.
Zombies would have even "passed"
on him back then.
El Sup,
So sad that "Ruby Baby" was only
played twice at the very start of the
Art Crimes Tour in 1996. It smoked.
But like the current often sad state
of the 2011 Shuffle Diplomacy Tour,
The "Podunk Hollar Hits" fans, the
ones paying the bills, were using
"Ruby Baby" for a bathroom/beer run.
And it closed the first set! Jesus,
people you couldn't of waited just a
few more minutes?! Argggg....
Ruby Baby 1996 -
John Beasley Piano Solo
Cornelius Bumpus Sax Solo
Ari Ambrose Sax Solo
Wayne Krantz 2 Killer Guitar Solos
Have great one in Music City tonight folks.
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 16:24:01 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
MIKETHEBAKER.....KEEP DREAMING
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 15:27:09 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in pennsylvania
My Dream Set List...
Cubano Chant
Florida Room
Gaslighting Abby
King of The World
Throw Back The Little Ones
Night Belongs To Mona
Midnight Cruiser
Two Against Nature
Your Gold Teeth 2
Everything Must Go
Intermission
Steely Dan Show
Jack of Speed
Book of Liars
Turn That Heartbeat Over Again
Brooklyn
What I Do
Kings
Cousin Dupree
Caves
encore
Don't Take Me Alive
Lunch With Gina
The Goodbye Look
I can hope, can't I?
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 15:08:42 ET
Posted by: Pete Fogel, New York City
For those of you coming in for the Sept 17 Steely Dan show at the Beacon Theater. We are having an after party for the fans at The Bitter End in Greenwich Village. The band for the after party is Lawrence "L*A*W" Worrell. Law plays in George Clinton's 420 Funk Mob and also was in Amy Winehouse's band before her recent passing. After The Bitter End show, we will continue the party at The Peculiar Pub which is right next door to The Bitter End.
When they ask you at the door who you're there to see, mention "Steely Dan After Party" and it's only a $5 charge. The $5 charge will also include admission to the Peculiar Pub.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ7Wxu3ApNI
(In the video, L*A*W is the singer/dancer wearing the white fuzzy hat)
The Bitter End - 147 Bleecker Street- NYC - The party starts 45 minutes after The Beacon show is over.
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 14:20:48 ET
Posted by: Fife, Baltimore, eh
Geez really?? What the hell is this thread about Walter's weight? Someone has their fat glasses on (noway in hell even close to 250 lbs!) and so what if Walt's packed a bit on, perhaps he has a wonderful wife who feeds him really well or the diner down the road but who gives a fuck. Mr.Becker is hitting that stage in life as a lot of us are that the gut suddenly appears, the back gives out, the syatic nerve is throbbing, the right knee just doesn't feel right, and the fucking list goes on. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Walter's personal business is his own, geez really!
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 13:25:52 ET
Posted by: Moray eel, Scale
Garcia weighed over 300 pounds. Walter is bigger than Jerry ever was.
m.e.
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 13:24:02 ET
Posted by: Gary, in Atlanta
From Larry Carlton's August Newsletter - 9 AM this morning:
Larry Carlton to Perform as a Special Guest to Steely Dan!
Larry Carlton will be performing �The Royal Scam� plus select hits with Steely Dan on September 23, 2011 at the Beacon Theatre in New York, NY (2124 Broadway New York, NY 10023).
Check www.LarryCarlton.com or Larry Carlton�s Official Facebook or Twitter for more details to come!
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 12:06:09 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, El Segundo Cubicle
Wolfee,
Thanks for the setlist.
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 11:47:50 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
Sorry YOUNG WU, Mrs. Bachmann not a DR., however her husband
apparentky is, he cures gay people, he should start with himself!!
Sorry to go politcal, I am sure I will be flamed, or worse ignored!!
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 11:13:28 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
Thank ya, DYLYNFAN... although it's not "Doctor Wu from Buffalo". I would never disparage the good Doctor by just stealing his title. I am just a humble widdle poster... who apparently annoys a few people here.
I'm as much of a doctor as Michele Bachmann is.
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 10:41:49 ET
Posted by: Reality,
Walter's at an age where years of Corn Flakes, Camels, Jim and Jack catch up to you.
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 10:37:47 ET
Posted by: Moray eel, Scale
Garcia weighed over 300 pounds. Walter is bigger than Jerry ever was.
m.e.
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 10:18:58 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
As far as Walters weight, see Jerry Garcia (albeit a little smack
thrown into the equation) as far as last tour, no shot as the good
DOCTOR WU FROM BUFFALO pointed out there is no way in hell they
wouldnt play the LAST TOUR card to help with business!! Plus
compared to MR. ZIMMERMAN they are sprite agewise!!
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 09:19:45 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains, NY
<<<Walter's weight is a serious health concern that may change any future plans the band may have. He appears to be around 350 pounds and that much weight causes a massive amount of stress on the heart of someone his age.>>>
Harsh! He looks more around 250. It's the gut that does him in.
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 08:42:56 ET
Posted by: Matt, Chattanooga, TN
Way back in 2000, I catalogued each song played on every show of the tour, but I don't remember there being a comprehensive database. I (for one) would be happy to help compile any such list/site. I think it's interesting and important to know where certain songs have been played, and the infrequency of certain cherished ditties.
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 08:34:58 ET
Posted by: Louisville, Review
"I overheard one fan say as he left the building, �How awesome to see a show and love every song of it!� "
If he was a real fan, he would have been on the blue with his Android bitching.
http://www.examiner.com/concert-photography-in-national/steely-dan-a-classic-at-the-louisville-palace
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 03:36:09 ET
Posted by: Wolfee, Traverse City, MI
This is the set list for the Interlochen concert 8-15, as best as I could reconstruct it. It would be nice if some other note-taker, somewhere out there, could confirm it.
Dizzy's Bidness
Your Gold Teeth
Aja
Black Friday
Hey Nineteen
Black Cow
Time Out of Mind
Show Biz Kids
Bodhisattva
Dirty Work
Papa Don't Take No Mess
Babylon Sisters
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Reelin' in the Years
Kid Charlemagne (Encore)
Outro: Untouchables Theme
Date: Fri, August 19, 2011, 00:52:44 ET
Posted by: moray eel, 60
Walter is no longer spry.
They may want to tour in the future, but Walter's weight is a serious health concern that may change any future plans the band may have. He appears to be around 350 pounds and that much weight causes a massive amount of stress on the heart of someone his age.
While I enjoy his music, I hope that his first priority is getting healthy and his second priority is playing great music.
m.e.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 22:04:21 ET
Posted by: Claire Voyant,
Young Wu - I hope you're right. However, WB, for some reason seems a little toasted this tour 'round. Something seems "wrong" about him and I can't explain what it is.
DF seems his spry self although when he reaches for some high notes it sounds like he's using his "angry voice".:)
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 20:46:40 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
Claire Voyant... no way. Absolutely no way. Barring some unfortunate incident, I don't think we have to worry about that.
I think we got at least one more tour to look forward to. Plus, they'll probably tour if they ever put out another album. They ain't too old. Some of these geezers are pushing 70... Fagen and Becker are still young spry 60 year olds.
Plus, come on. If this was their last tour, wouldn't they market the shit out of it?
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 20:20:56 ET
Posted by: Claire Voyant,
I can't substantiate this, but, my gut feeling is that this will be SD's final tour.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 18:42:41 ET
Posted by: An Old Friend, Perhaps you might remeber me as...
Hoops-
This might be the site you are thinking of:
http://www.broberg.pp.se/sd_concerts.htm
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 18:41:54 ET
Posted by: El Sup, Louisville, KY
The Louisville show was outstanding! The band was in fine form and having a good time. Great night!
Also, it was refreshing to see a TON of people outside with signs asking for tickets as opposed to the standard scalpers trying to part with them.
Can't wait for the Beacon!
El Sup
DeaconBlues - Yes, Ruby Baby was played EARLY in 1996, but only a couple of times.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 18:09:26 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Joan, LR, others;
There was for many years such a database, but I'm not sure of its fate. I am pretty sure that it had all shows from the 70s through the 2000 tour.
Maybe we can snag it and build on it.
As one option, I would be glad to turn over the keys to some web database apps that are part of our server so such a database could be maintained. Let me know.
Jim
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 17:49:40 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly
LR - You are right, it would be nice if people could post their various set lists in pdf or jpg form, in one place, which makes me think that it would be an interesting resource to see original printouts from various sources posted together, maybe a shared Flickr page (?) Even though the *content* of the lists is available in various places online, there's something more fun about seeing a visual of the original setlists, which usually are somewhat crumpled/taped/typoed, i.e. they have memento character. I'm guessing that in this group alone there is quite a collection going back several years. Could be a fun project, if enough people contributed to it.
And FWIW thank you for stating more clearly what I meant about the repeated lyric in that particular song; also I know he's opened with The Only Fool in two out of the three solo shows I've personally seen him play, which made me think that would be it. But I could be wrong...
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 16:56:51 ET
Posted by: BillfromPgh,
Warren Haynes covers Pretzel Logic: http://mulearmy.net/whb20110814/player.html
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 16:53:46 ET
Posted by: For What It's Worth, Ray
What I think Joan was trying to point out was that there is a lyric in the song "The Only Fool" that is very close to what was listed as the first song on the setlist that night and that perhaps the two might have been one and the same.
It's got to be brutal to be the smartest guy in an empty room, yes?
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 16:23:02 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Security Joan,
Wish we had the ability to directly
post jpegs of pdf's cuz I would post
a picture taken of the "actual" band
set list that night for the Jon Herington
show at the Olde Mistick Village Arts
Cinemas on July 28, 2011. It clearly
shows the title as, "Baby What You Want
Me to Do" for what it's worth.
I love Jon's story that night about the band
traveling and splitting up onto two buses
when on tour. And the bus that he and Keith
ride on sans the horn guys is called the,
"Soul Bus" and that is where they have been
listening to a lot of Lee Dorsey & James Brown.
Do you have any more of your fine pieces or
interviews planned for the NYC run?
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 16:22:22 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -
Zoomlv:
Thank you for being an absolute trooper. Hearing my favorite Dan tune live for the first time brought a tear to my eye. What an absolute masterpiece.
You just made my day, week, month and year.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 16:20:38 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, @ DYLYNFAN
Right shall be entitled.
Is that the correct english expression, btw??
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 16:13:29 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
JAZZASSIN, just for the record, my source is a she!!! No big deal.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 16:13:02 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY
I should also point out that I believe the closer at the Palace last night was the same Untouchables number played at Interlochen. Jarring chord changes indeed.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 16:01:24 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Dan Belcher, TFL & Soul Monkey,
Woo, hoo! It's about time. Thanks
for the reports and setlist from Louisville.
The Palace is such a 1920's gem. Great to
see that they are working up Bad Sneakers,
I think that bodes well that we will see it
as one of the "rarities" played on the 17th.
Wolfee,
Thanks for the Interlochen report,
would love to also see the set list
if you could jog your memory. So cool
they played the Untouchables Theme!
Steelydoc nailed it as usual, the
Al Capone connection is well known.
Personally I would love to see it
as a "new" show closer. It totally rocks
and "Tango" has had quite a long run and is
much slower in pace. "The Bear" would also
have been VERY appropriate at Interlochen:
http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/best_places_USA/sleeping-bear-dunes-michigan-vo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Bear_Dunes_National_Lakeshore
Zoomlv,
I've shared mine in their lossless entirety,
how about sharing yours? ;O)
Looking forward to tomorrow's reports from
Nashville.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 15:49:09 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY
Almost Gothic! Unbelievable. Thanks so much for sharing, Zoomlv.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 15:31:20 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Searching for a Cocktail
Thanks so much for Almost Gothic. While I enjoyed it immensely I can probably guess whey they don't choose to play it live.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 15:25:52 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Correctionville Minor
I just noticed on the Herington setlist posted on the Digest (Olde Mistick Village Arts Cinemas/July 28, 2011) that the first song listed is "Baby What You Want Me to Do" -- I do believe the actual title for that song would be "The Only Fool"
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 15:14:59 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Thanks for Almost Gothic. I has been years since I heard that song. We said at the time it was right at the edge of his vocal range, but what a loss that he doesn't sing it anymore.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 15:07:35 ET
Posted by: Ghost, Lower Broadway
It's (first one) - Did seem there was a distinct change of tone!
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 14:42:38 ET
Posted by: Zoomlv, Lost Wages
I have been a casual observer of the Bluebook off and on for a long time. Some of the disrespectful comments going back and forth in my opinion should be dealt with in private.
The Digest should be for discussion on the music of Steely Dan and no personal battles.
Almost Gothic" Albuquerque , June 11, 2000.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 14:41:52 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
A-Frame Freddy... here's the setlist from 7/23:
Aja
Black Friday
Hey Nineteen
Your Gold Teeth
Time Out of Mind
Bodhisattva
Showbiz Kids
Dirty Work
Godwhacker
Intros
Monkey in Your Soul
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Reelin' in the Years
Pretzel Logic
Kid Charlamange
-------------------------
Substitutes for Godwhacker are usually Home at Last, Black Cow, Green Earrings, or Babylon Sisters. Sometimes 2 of those are played a night. Pretzel Logic was only played twice. Monkey in Your Soul is hardly played anymore, either.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 14:20:51 ET
Posted by: A-Frame Freddy, KCMO
Since the Special Setlist shows seem to cover quite the gamut, just wondering how the non-SS shows (like KC) are handled? Does anybody have a sample setlist from one of the standard shows on this tours? Much appreciated.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 14:11:16 ET
Posted by: SteelyDon, Leaving Chicago heading back to my home of Philadelphia
I was wondering about the upcoming title of DF's pending album. I read in the dandom digest that the title is going to be "Soulful Instinct" I'm just wondering if someone could point me to the source of this information. I've be looking on the 'net and have not found anything related to Soulful Instinct and DF.
Thanks!
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 13:27:48 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
Ticketmaster:
Steely Dan: Rarities and B-sides plus select hits
September 17 will be "Rarities" where the band will play B-sides and unreleased songs plus select hits.
----------------------------------------
B-Sides, hmm?? Fire in the Hole, Only a Fool Would Say That, Razor Boy, Pearl Of The Quarter, Through with Buzz, Throw Back The Little Ones... it's GOTTA be a couple of those, right?
Plus, DYLYNFAN did say Throw Back and Pearl.
Time will tell, ehh?
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 11:03:44 ET
Posted by: It's, Like This (the first one)
My last post (you know, this IS a creepy place has DF stated) was on Aug 15 20:00 regarding Interlochen's big band (in case we meet at the great cosmic weigh-in and you're above my weight class). See ya, kids.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 11:03:21 ET
Posted by: PGE, Maybe Donald & Walter could share vocals on this on Rarities night?
Sing verses alternately? Anyhow I'm loking forward to hearing in on the night!
http://www.televisiontunes.com/Flintstones_-_Bedrock_Twitch.html
"There's a town I know, where the hipsters go..."
(I can hear Jon & the horn section shine on this one.)
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 10:58:34 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
So Young Wu? Had you left email as is required on the posting page I would have talked to you. And if you really understood Orwell, you'd know that it was about people not treating others as people. I submit your previous post as exhibit A.
You know, I spent about 45 minutes googling and otherwise trying to figure out the Interlochen set list so we could have it.
If someone has that setlist, especially after all my trouble, yeah, a little honey should be used to get that person to offer the set list. Why should Wolfee reply when he's given your skeptical demand with a shit attitude to post the set list? Really! Why should we lose out because you treat strangers poorly?
So as a result of your lack of decency means we all suffer not getting the set list. But you could care less about welfare of all of us as whole.
Maybe I'm wrong but didn't we go through this dance about three years ago where your lack of friendship and dumbass attitude interrupted my evening? This is actually a guestbook--when you are a guest in someone's home do you act rudely? I throw such assholes out...period.
So Young Wu...I'll argue your side. This forum is so Orwellian--please!--go to another of the 48 or so other Steely Dan fan forums that are so much better than this one which sucks. Clearly you deserve better and we're not worthy of your flowing humanity and kindness.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 10:55:27 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, @ DYLYNFAN
Though I really have no idea of whether your source is trustworthy or not, I must say his suggestions sounds like a real bag of candy.
Especially "Throw Back...." would be absolutely over the top to hear live at the rarities night. I hope for all of you who are going to the Beacon at 9-17 that he's right!
Since 2nd arr, Kulee Baba, Shanghai Breakdown, Heartbreak Souvenir, Gullywater & Megashine City is still probably a veeery long shot, that is... :D
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 10:47:16 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
Wow, Orwell would be proud, my friend.
Was my original post much too harsh for the gentle minds of the Blue?
I guess I should just get into an internet flame war over soundchecks and license plates, hmm? That way my posts wouldn't be washed and polished. Or maybe I should just post fictional set reports, huh?
Christ...
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 10:43:03 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
Thanx for noticing YOUNG WU I am throwing it out there leaving myself
naked to the world, we will see how my source and therefor me do!!!
However, I am shocked you dont think those nuggets if played would
be fantastic??? Anyway as "HOOPS" would say "vee shall see"
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 10:35:04 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -
B.S.:
Congats on getting our hopes up about Almost Gothic. You truly are the maesto of wit. Priceless. Still laughing over here!
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 09:58:50 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
Ehh... now this is why I'm not a huge fan of people.
Wolfee...Thanks for piping in...if you have time would be so kind to post the real interlochen set list, assuming you remember it all. It would be much appreciated by the minions.
Woke up singing Almost Gothic. Damn, that is a fine tune.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 09:48:51 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, orlando
Hoops, don't you mean you need a pina colada, my friend?
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 09:23:41 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, & Will Lee
Re: SD Rock & Roll HOF 2001
The orchestra is the CBS Orchestra aka The World's Most Dangerous Band, led by Paul Shaffer.
Known from David Letterman's shows, and probably the best house band on this planet.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 09:16:42 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
THAT'S NOT THE REAL INTERLOCHEN SET LIST!
It's just B.S.!
Wolfee...could you post the real set list since you went? Thank you.
I've posted this already this week or so: "Almost Gothic" was performed only once in concert at New Mexico in 2000.
Speaking of giving responses that everyone ignores: A couple of people wrote to say how horrible it was that someone would give me shit....HEY, if you care, comment on my post about this year's shows same set list, different playing, improvs that are most Ellingtonian. I wrote that; no one replied and then people start talkin', "Hey do you think that's what's happening?"
Many thanks and best wishes,
Jim
P.S. In general, please only post as "The Truth" if what you are writing is 110% accurate. Any posts by "The Truth" that are opinions or questions will generally be removed.
Coffee...coffee...coffee...I need coffee...
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 09:01:09 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis
Wow, I'll gladly take one of the last two set lists in Minnesota in a week, but I'm afraid the Minn State Fair may get the "casino set" treatment.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 08:09:21 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
Al Capone used to hang in the Interlochen area, so that might be why they played the Untouchables music...
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 07:25:02 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf
Walter Becker, from 2001, at the absolute peak of his powers. Ungodly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYAPC0CjJGI
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 05:39:34 ET
Posted by: wolfee, Traverse City, Michigan
I saw the Interlochen concert on 8/15. Great concert, of course.
The Outro for that concert was the Theme to the Untouchables (TV show not the movie), by Nelson Riddle. I couldn't figure out why they played that piece. Must be they liked the jarring chord changes.
The theme is on YouTube, if you don't believe.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 04:42:25 ET
Posted by: fagenIsm, -
Please tell me there is a video of the performance of Almost Gothic. Just say it! Now dangit!
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 04:27:22 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, @ It's Carolyn
Thanks a whole lot!
You made my day!
Though looking for a certain song can be good fun in itself, you saved me a lot of time. And both Morgan and Mobley has a lot of other stuff well worth a listen as well.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 04:18:38 ET
Posted by: PGE, Re: Carolyn & Mobley
Spotify-users can hear the whole Hank Mobley album incl. Carolyn here:
spotify:album:3qer0IWDm6mSLUJy4ji0Oi
or
http://open.spotify.com/album/3qer0IWDm6mSLUJy4ji0Oi
Just Mobley's version of Carolyn on YouTube:
http://youtu.be/u57C4lot-go
/PGE
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 03:17:18 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA
Dan and B.S.,
Thanks for the setlists. B.S., am I correct in assuming that the "II" in YGT II is a typo?
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 03:00:07 ET
Posted by: scuffy,
Are they playing Your Gold Teeth or Your Gold Teeth II?
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 01:24:19 ET
Posted by: It's Carolyn, oopsieville
The band outro from 2007 is Carolyn, that is.
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 01:23:21 ET
Posted by: It's Carolyn, Ooopsieville
The band outro IS Carolyn. Not Last Tango In Paris. Carolyn appeared on Hank Mobley's "No room for squares" and is a Lee Morgan tune :-)
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 00:58:47 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
Bad Sneakers!? Jealously overload.
Now wait... there is no fucking way that Interlochen setlist is real, right? Bullshit, or "B.S."
See, this is why we need setlist reports every night!
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 00:38:04 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY
The show tonight was super fine. Maybe Keith Carlock's finest performance I've seen yet, and that's saying something. His ending solo in Aja had me almost in a trance for a minute it was so powerful! Total goosebumps. The sound quality was great (and how could it not be? The Palace is such a high quality venue!). My only complaint was that the horns were mixed a little low. Jon Herington's guitar was nice and powerfully up-front in his solos though, so that was a nice touch.
Lurker Ray will be happy - Bad Sneakers made an appearance in tonight's set! (And a damn fine one, I might add. Love that song. The transition into the solo was a little odd, I think they switched it up a hair?)
Danfest beforehand was tons of fun. Great seeing you guys and drinking a couple rum and Cokes.
The security Nazis were immediately pouncing on anyone who so much as thought about using their cameraphone to take a picture or get any video. Flashlights were constantly being pointed at people it felt like. Kind of a buzz kill.
Rough set list... I think I got every song, but not 100% sure on the order. I didn't have anything to take notes with other than my phone, and I didn't dare pull it out of my pocket lest I get a security guard all up in my face...
Dizzy's Bidness
Your Gold Teeth
Aja
Black Friday
Hey Nineteen
Green Earrings
Bad Sneakers
Time Out Of Mind
Show Biz Kids
Bodhisattva
Babylon Sisters
Godwhacker
Dirty Work
Papa Don't Take No Mess
Josie
Peg
Reelin' in the Years
My Old School
Encore:
Kid Charlemagne
Outro
Date: Thurs, August 18, 2011, 00:17:21 ET
Posted by: ThoseFreneticLicks, inGreenEarrings
Just saw our favorite band at Louisville Palace. What a great venue. Band was better than in Tulsa a month ago, and that's saying a lot 'cuz they were real good then. Setlist 99% same as the Interlochen post below. Lots of dancing in the balcony. Impressive solos by everyone. Dirty Work more Carolyn plus 2 than Embassy Brats, but it was fine.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 23:34:35 ET
Posted by: SoulMonkey, The Ville
On the way home. F*****G smoking show in the Ville tonight. More later. WOW!!!
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 23:19:54 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR
If that was The Goods and not "B.S.," then, as DF sez, "What a night!"
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 23:10:50 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, zkzkzk
Wow. "Almost Gothic" Really? Cool. First time?
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 22:58:15 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains
wow that setlist looks pretty damn good.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 22:49:40 ET
Posted by: B.S., P.S.
Oh, yeah.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 22:45:47 ET
Posted by: B.S.,
Interlochen Monday, August 15, 2011
1.Dizzy's Bidness
2.Your Gold Teeth II
3.Aja
4.Bad Sneakers
5.Hey Nineteen Walter rants about the Interlochen students as groupies backstage
6.Time Out of Mind
7.Godwhacker
8.Black Cow
9.Show Biz Kids
10.Bodhisattva
11.Almost Gothic
12.Papa Don't Take No Mess with band intros. "They are who they are"
13.You Got The Bear
14.Josie
15.Peg
16.My Old School
17.Reelin' in the Years
18.Kid Charlemagne
19.Last Tango in Paris
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 22:31:49 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, home
as I said before, Lonnie is a great guy. I am blessed to have him as a friend. Please, stop the childish name-calling.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 21:20:57 ET
Posted by: Another , Scurvy Brother
@It's Like This.
Did I say it would be played? No. But I can't think of another song that is, as they say, "mythic."
Why don't you play the game and take your own shot at a "mythic" number? And when you do, use a real handle so I don't have to address a cyber troll.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 20:44:12 ET
Posted by: It's, Like This
>>Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 16:16:56 ET
Posted by: The Truth
The Blue didn't exist in the 20th Century.<<
>>Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 16:02:22 ET
Posted by: Lonnie THE Kingpin
The blue of 2011 is only a shell of what it used to be back in the 20th Century.<<
The truth? No one ever said Lonnie THE Douche Nozzle was the sharpest tool in the shed or the brightest bulb. Ray got it right, he's a bumpkin. HouDanFan you are going to bag on Interlochen because we haven't seen a set list yet? Christ we just got a Portsmouth list and that show as over two weeks ago not to mention a town three times the size of Thackervile and Interlochen combined. Another Scurvy, you are so hallucinating if you ever think that 2nd Arrangement will be played in New Amsterdam.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 20:21:21 ET
Posted by: Another , Scurvy Brother
A Game:
Based on steelydan.com's description of "Rarities" night, we should expect, "The unreleased, the mythic, the reborn, the rarely-if-ever-heard."
Provided we get one of each, what are your top contenders for each category? I'll go first.
The unreleased: The Bear
The mythic: The 2nd Arrangement
The reborn: Your Gold Teeth
The rarely-if-ever-heard: Dr. Wu
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 19:58:43 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, El Segundo Cubicle
Young Wu,
If I recall correctly, there were two shows per night during the Japan portion of the 2007 tour. The venue was a relatively small, newly opened club, I think.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 19:53:16 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
Wow... those are some crazy short sets for Japan. I know that they were playing pretty small clubs there, but still... 10 songs? Jeepers.
Also, I'm surprised no one has commented on DYLYNFAN's supposed source on Rarities Night. Boston Rag, Wu, IGY, Sneakers, Pearl, Throw Back the Little Ones.
It sounds pretty realistic. Probably The Bear, too. A little disappointing, but realistic.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 19:40:24 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick
The latest EDITIONS of the Dandom Digest WERE just mailed and you should receive THEM the next 12 hours. THERE WERE THREE covering from July 28-August 17,2011.
If you are a subscriber, you may already see them in your email box If you don't receive them, check your spam filters first; then, if it's not there, please email me.
Some people have problems with delivery of the Dandom Digest, usually because of their spam filters, firewalls, etc. That's why this sort of notice is posted in the Blue.
The THREE DIFFERENT DIGESTS are as follows
- #1 = General News Items plus the Ticket Exchange
- #2 = ALL SPOILERS including all set-lists from Jon Herrington's Mystic, CT gig (thanks Ray)and Foxwoods Casino up to but not including Interlochen (we still need that one).
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Thanks for your support through the years, especially Pete and Shari, Gus and John and remembering Mark and Bill.
Jim
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 19:16:19 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Carolyn Says
Ports,
If we're going to exchange many setlists for concerts that took place four years ago we will probably make people fall asleep here, but just for comparision I will re-post the setlist from Molde, Norway 07-19-2007 (my most recent SD show):
Instrumental SD Orchestra Intro (Jeri)
Time Out Of Mind
Bad Sneakers
Godwhacker
Hey Nineteen
Haitian Divorce
Babylon Sister
Bodhisattva
Josie
Dirty Work
Peg
Green Earrings
Kid Charlemagne
Aja
+
FM
My Old School
Instrumental SD Orchestra Outro (Carolyn??)
I assume that the outro was Carolyn, since that one seems to have been the song used for that purpose for most or all of the 2007 tour, and that could be the explanation to where I eventually have previously heard it before I watched the Youtube clip.
I considered recording the gig, but chose not to do so in favor of being absolutely free to enjoy the show without having to bother about technical issues.
I have visited the places where the boots are being shared to see if anyone else had recorded and uploaded that gig, but none to be found so far.
Ghia Girl,
Sounds like a very nice vacation!
I notice what you say about the repertoire:
"And I did not care at ALL that it was the same set list each night (I spend hours listening to each of the CD anyway)"
Exactly my point. Almost not one day without listening to some Dan albums since '77.
(How could I possibly care less about the exact setlists? :D)
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 18:28:04 ET
Posted by: Danphan, -----
Hoops!
YOU ARE SO FULL OF SHIT!
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 18:16:57 ET
Posted by: Ghia Girl, NJ
I completely agree with ygk�s post, �How about some humble appreciation for what IS some of the best music being performed live today in any venue/format?� I attend many different concert (blues, jazz, rock) every year and hands down, there is nothing out there like Steely Dan. The level of talent that they bring to the stage each and every night is beyond compare. This is true of not just Walter and Donald but each and every member of the band. The boys not only are great but they surround themselves with greatness. They are well rehearsed and tight.
This year instead of the usually week down in the Outer Banks or the Jersey shore, I decided to take a Steely Dan vacation. I venture out in my 74 Karmann Ghia (hence the tag name) and headed out to the Finger Lakes, NY, Stockbridge Mass, Danbury Conn. and Mystic , Conn. I spent my days lying by a lake, visiting aquariums, shopping (typical vacation deal) and spent my nights listening to the best band performing today. And I did not care at ALL that it was the same set list each night (I spend hours listening to each of the CD anyway). What a trip! What memories! And two more nights at the Beacon to go!
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 17:39:23 ET
Posted by: KD, Ol
I was on here in 2003 and (especially, with the shorter setlists due to the Mike McD reunion) 2006 defending these things to a hilt. And if I had the tickets this year, I would have enjoyed the heck out of another night with (mostly) the same setlist from SD. It would have been amongst the highlights of the summer. Heck, in this too-hot summer, it probably would have been THE highlight.
But I'm allowed to at the very least commiserate with those wanting something more. I wanted something more in every tour since 2003, but was more than happy to spend what I didn't have to see these guys. This summer I was unable to, but I would have been just as happy. Some of you don't understand that just about every other night is spent listening to even the old standbys like "Peg" and "My Old School" from this tour on YouTube, days after they're posted. At some point the reverse-snobs have to mindful of what they've become.
Don't confuse disappointment for distaste. As it's always been on this site, since the early summer of 2001, people tend to see things in black and white terms. Pity.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 17:39:18 ET
Posted by: Houston, Houston
Hey hasn't anyone offered Michael the kool-aid? Damn, one snuck by us? Somebody get the kool-aid and give it him now. This is an oversight that cannot be tolerated. If this happens again heads are gonna roll.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 17:36:04 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis
Jazzassin:
Set list Tokyo 8-24-2007
INTRO - JERI
TIME OUT OF MIND
BAD SNEAKERS !!
HEY 19
DADDY DON'T LIVE...
GREEN EARRINGS
DIRTY WORK
JOSIE
CHAIN LIGHTNING !!
DO IT AGAIN
PEG
PRETZEL LOGIC !!
OUTRO - CAROLYN
Nice set list in 2007...but short set.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 17:32:01 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis
Jazzsassin:
Set list Tokyo 8-18-2007
INTRO - JERI ??
TIME OUT OF MIND
GODWACKER
HEY 19
PEG
BABYLON SISTERS
DIRTY WORK
JOSIE
AJA
KID CHARLMANGE
MY OLD SCHOOL
OUTRO - CAROLYN ??
I have listened to this cd and am unfamiliar with the Intro and Outro, but they are typical Steely Dan...very nice sounding.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 17:23:01 ET
Posted by: Michael,
Jazzassin: ditto. No point in fighting for a change when you're perfectly content with the way things are.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 17:19:07 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Carolyn darling, come to me
Re: Carolyn
Thanks, Ports!
Lets hope our joint efforts will finally bring some enlightenment to the case.
I'm thinking... it COULD be that it is in fact a piece written by Steely Dan/Don/some band member, but they have a tradition for using external material for the band's in- and outros.
I guess this is the case with Carolyn, too.
Michael: I rest my case.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 17:08:42 ET
Posted by: Michael,
Bend over backwards: here comes Steely friggin' Dan.
And here comes the Bluebook regulars, infamous for ignore all criticism and dissent. Nevermind all the fans who felt jipped -- those people just here to whine and complain and ruin it for the rest of us.
You want change in Steely Dan's setlists? Never gonna happen because (newsflash) they simply DON'T CARE.
As has been said in the past, Don & Walt could go into the studio and record a fart, then sell it as a new SD album (which will unquestionably be the most "clean" recording quality of a fart ever mastered). The fans on the Bluebook will eat it up.
But who am I kidding? They're Steely frickin' Dan. They could sell tickets at $1,000 and the people here will justify it. Why, Josie alone should be worth $100.
Nevermind. The band is so tight, the grooves are so infectious, the booze is so good, like a monkey chained to a grinding machine, the Bluebook people prefer no dissent and they like it that way. Just like in a communist state.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 16:52:44 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minnepolis
Jazzassin-
Re: Carolyn song...I have a CD from a Japan Steely Dan concert in 2000 or 2007 I believe and it has an outo song listed as Carolyn. i will investigate.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 16:41:54 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
ygk:
Thank you !!!!! Enough with the whining and just enjoy the shows. DF and WB may not be doing live concerts for much longer, for all we know.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 16:16:56 ET
Posted by: The Truth,
The Blue didn't exist in the 20th Century.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 16:02:22 ET
Posted by: Lonnie THE Kingpin, Kona, Hawaii
Ray,
The blue of 2011 is only a shell of what it used to be back in the 20th Century. Have a good life.
LTK
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 15:59:22 ET
Posted by: hoops, really on the quick
Like I wrote here Saturday morning:
"Whether you think the set list is mixed up enough these days, the playing is at a whole new level this year with all sorts of spaces left for little and big improvisations that are so amazingly tight. Seems very much in the spirit of Ellington's bands in that respect."
Bests,
Jim
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 15:48:32 ET
Posted by: Josey, Mass
I have no doubt that I will leave the show October 30th having had a damn good time! Love the band, love the music!
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 15:40:55 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Re: Carolyn YES!
Joan,
Thanks! Now that narrows the possibilities a lot, and I will continue to search for Carolyn.
If all I find is the old country song and the amazing Ms. Leonhart-Escoffery, so be it, but it's worth a try... ;)
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 15:31:36 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Carolyn, yes
Jazzassin, Re: Band Outro 5-21-2007 (Name that song)
The song title, at least, is definitely Carolyn - I have a printed setlist from that tour and that's what is listed as the final number. I've also been scrounging about to see what exactly this song is... but alas, no luck.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 15:04:09 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY
I'd also like to say something about the setlist issue. Even if the setlist is the same between two different concerts, you're getting two radically different shows. There's so much improvisation and things can really change depending on the mood of the crowd and the weather and all that. On the other hand, imagine if they were like the Eagles and their live performances were absolutely perfect recreations of the studio recordings of the songs, right down to playing the same exact guitar solos every night. After considering that possibility, I don't feel very compelled to complain about setlists. Sure, I'd love to hear The Bear or Night By Night. But am I going to enjoy myself tonight at the Louisville Palace even if 90% of the songs are the same ones I heard last month in Cincinnati? Hell yes I'm going to enjoy myself.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 15:04:07 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Not Mis'ry, I think.
Re:
Band Outro 5-21-2007 (Name that song)
The person who uploaded the clip to Youtube have now changed the name of the song from "Last Tango in Paris" to "Carolyn".
I have no idea about what "Carolyn" this could possibly be, or by who it was written.
CJB pointed out that it's certainly not "Last Tango", and Moray Eel replied that it's really "Mis'ry & The Blues" by Jack Teagarden.
With all respect, I can't say I recognize "Mis'ry & The Blues", either...
I've listened to a handful versions of both "Tango" and "Mis'ry", and to the Youtube clip a dozen times to compare, played along with them all, and I really don't think the band outro from 5-21-2007 is either of them, no matter how much it might have been specially transcribed and arranged for the SD orchestra.
The melody and the chords just dont fit at all (regardless of an eventual transposing of the key).
To me, it sounds like a melody that could very well have been written by Gato Barbieri (composer of "Last Tango"), but I cant find the melody amongst his compositions. I've listened to over a hundred Barbieri songs with no result.
Something about it also reminds me of Monk, but can't find it in his catalog either.
So, is it some "Carolyn"? Can we trust an uploader who have already amitted he or she was mixing up the title of the song the first time?
If anyone knows which "Carolyn" or other song this really is, it would be nice if you posted it.
It's an addictive melody, and I'm really curious about it.
That said, I could swear I've heard it before.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 14:49:30 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY
Here's audio of Jon Herington on Louisville radio this morning for an interview, and he plays one of his original songs too.
http://www.wfpk.org/2011/08/17/steely-dans-jon-herington-in-the-studio/
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 14:48:55 ET
Posted by: KD, Ol
YGK -- Contexts change. The "be happy that you have food on your plate" ideal was wiped out years ago.
It'd be nice to think of this group, the group that we held in high regard while they declined to play live for decades, in a strata that doesn't include the typical classic rock road hogs that drag out the same setlist year after year.
It's not 1993. I appreciate their activity, but I'm not going to mistake it for achievement.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 14:20:04 ET
Posted by: What A Shame, About The Blue
Bravo, YGK!
Bravo, LWO!
Seriously...What the hell happened to this place?
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 13:47:21 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, oh Michael, oh Jesus
Thanks ygk! And for those of you who have never heard his work, this man knows of what he speaks.
I was one of the "Do the Wu'ers" back in '06, then '07 and into '09. And it was super thrilling to hear it live. But you know, in retrospect, it seems to me that the musical director and those other two guys who know this shit pretty well ought to be able to give us, and that means rabid and casual alike, their best show.
You don't want to hear the same songs? There are lots of other shows to spend your hard earned bucks on. I've seen them too. They don't compare, which is why I keep following this band.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 13:32:28 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, disappointed, too. But for another reason.
ygk, doc, db16, M/O/D/P, Joan
I second your opinions about the setlist whining, but think we are all "talking to da hand 'cause da ears won't listen".
Symptoms of the disease that I named MDOS (Mental Dan Overload Syndrom) is all too clearly still present.
Humility and gratitude towards Steely Dan for their unique music, and the fact that they still play and that the band is possibly tighter than ever, is obviously not properties of those who haven't got better things to do than complain about misleading promotion of the SS nights - setlists that aren't at all special enough for them.
Many of us have tried to remind them about this several times in different ways; polite, not-so-polite, humorous, sarcastic, satirical and even a bit rude when we've run out of patience.
The replys are as a rule rather monomaniacally revolving around their own disappointment (for which they really must take the full responsibility themselves), and we who don't share their MDOS diagnose are reduced to backwards bending no-balls cowards who just don't understand what a huge problem this tour really has, and will accept all the cruel humiliation we are recieving from SD without ever questioning it.
Because we are much too loyal, which is of course very creepy, and we dont even appreciate that they are fighting this painful battle for us.
Neither do we love the music, since we don't worry a lot about the said lack of variation in setlists.
You know what?
Not worrying about the excact setlists, the request system and all that shit, and saying things like "whatever they do is fine with me" (yes, I said that) IS NOT a symptom of a creepy, unhealthy way of relating to your favorite artists.
Ignoring the fact that we're talking about some of the best music ever made, and instead focusing on your own unrealistic expectations and your fantasy world where you think SD is a democratic republic where you live and have civil rights & even the right to demand anything at all from the chairmen, your need to feel that Don & Walt is your personal buddies that will listen to your problems and play your personal fav setlist to comfort you, and not for a second being able to take a step sideways and see what you are doing to yourself and the Bluebook....IS such a symptom.
If Steely Dan has become a pathetic, greedy retro act in your eyes, then dont stick to them like glue.
And to those of you who has already decided not to go to show as a result of your massive disappointment with the band and the tour:
That's the only right thing to do, but please don't trash this place with further complaints.
The Bluebook should be a fountain of enthusiasm for SD's music.
Your attitude is threatening to make it just a pit of gully water.
I think DYLYNFAN was onto something when he described your way of loving SD as "tough love", but I wonder how tough love can possibly get before it's no longer love...
Earlier this summer I suggested that SD merch should include toothbrush, pajamas and sheets. A Steely Pacifier would complement that kit perfectly.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 13:26:47 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
ygk- I probably need the shrink,but spent the money on Beacon tix!
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 12:57:03 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly
ygk - Make that three thumbs up. Well stated!
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 12:16:12 ET
Posted by: Pauly,
The Princeton Review names Bard College as one of the ten most liberal liberal arts colleges.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 11:47:25 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Toronto, makin' plans for NYC
Thank you, ygk! I couldn't agree more.
Some of us have tried to make the same points here, albeit in a more indirect, gentle manner, but sometimes bluntness might just be the only way to properly address these chronic, compulsively-repetitive complainers. How anyone could be so incredibly morose at a time when this killer live band is active and still musically relevant is beyond me, really.
Oh, and the irony of writing, ad nauseam, nothing but the same, unvaried negative opinion about this perceived "lack of variety" appears to be lost on some here. Switch your own set list up a bit, guys.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 11:30:11 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG, PA
DEACON BLUES 16, not an ounce of drink or smoke or anything????
I like and admire your post's, but never trust someone who doesnt drink!!!!JUST SAYIN
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 11:14:34 ET
Posted by: Carlyle, Over here
Love Carolyn E-S's solo albums and all, but I don't dig her so much on Dirty Work, especially now that she's singing most of it.
When she sings light the candles it's pretty shrill. For a song about dirty work, it feels to me like too much teeth, if you catch my drift.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 11:08:30 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston
It's Not Like This.
"Interlochen is hardly out there, very famous place. I would consider Thackerville as Bumfuck."
No setlist from Interlochen? I guess this is one of those very famous places that nobody has ever been too.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 10:59:03 ET
Posted by: Melanie, reviews.ticketmaster.com
From: Melanie757 at reviews.ticketmaster.com
Subject: SPOILER: 8/1-Portsmouth, VA
Date: 1 August 2011
Outstanding!
nTelos Wireless Pavilion
- Portsmouth
, VA
- Mon, Aug 1, 2011
Posted 08/04/2011
by Melanie757
Loved every minute, the Brats and the orchestra were terrific. Fagen was animated and superb as usual. I didn't want the show to end.
Favorite moment: Godwhacker, my new favorite SD song!
Setlist: Aja
Black Friday
Hey Nineteen
Your Gold Tteeth
Time Out of Mind
Show Biz Kids
Bodhisattva
Janie Runaway
Babylon Sister
Godwhacker
Dirty work (f. Embassy Brats)
[Papa Don't Mess...] and band intro
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Reelin' in the Years
enore
Kid Charlemagne
Opening act(s): Sam Yahel and friends
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 10:28:10 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR
Mr. Eel: So it is. Thanks!
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 09:57:22 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
"If people don't have an issue with their generic, inflexible setlist, so be it. Hey, I did my part to try and change things, but if people are willing to bend over backwards, I'll take it that most of you simply don't care for the music and just go in order to "have a good time," i.e. getting boozed/drugged."
That's a pretty broad assumption to make. When I see them Saturday, I can absolutely assure you that there won't be an ounce of alcohol, drugs, or any questionable substance in my body, and I can also ABSOLUTELY assure you that I "care for the music." I don't understand how you think not having "an issue with their generic, inflexible setlist" means one doesn't "care for the music." But I guess I'm really just "bending over backwards," while you're valiantly not attending a concert (I hope you aren't attending Mike, sounds like you'll be miserable) and sticking it to the man and those evil corporate sadists, Donald Fagen and Walter Becker. I'm sure your presumptive absence will show them!
"It's really disheartening to observe what Steely Dan has become. I thought if any group were impervious to that "old-time group whoring their back catalog of radio hits in order to make quick money" stigmata, it was definitely Steely Dan.
How wrong I was."
Yeah because that's what's really going on. First of all, they've played 27/82 "official" catalog songs at least once this tour, plus the unofficially released "The Bear." That's almost 1/3 of their catalog. Although I can't find the interview, Fagen or Becker stated a few years ago that they weren't going to play stuff from solo albums at Steely Dan shows, so you can forget counting solo albums as part of their catalog for purposes of setlist possibilities. And while they played The Bear, it still isn't fair to expect/hope for them to play unofficially released material on a night to night basis, considering some statements on the subject made by Donald Fagen and Walter Becker in past years. With all that said, there are only 13 additional songs in my opinion that you could reasonably expect to be part of the regular setlist based on recent tours, and some of them are definitely stretches. But they include:
- Parker's Band
- Bad Sneakers
- Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More
- Chain Lightning
- The Caves of Altamira
- Don't Take Me Alive
- Haitian Divorce
- Everything You Did
- The Royal Scam
- Glamour Profession
- Gaucho
- Two Against Nature
So, you have about 40/82 songs that I think could be potentially played on a regular setlist, and you can most likely kiss the expectation of hearing the other 42 songs goodbye (in addition to any expectation of hearing a solo album tune or unreleased material on a given night). They've played 27/40 of those songs at least once on this tour. And when they have the setlist staples that are played at pretty much every show, it lessens the amount of free space on the setlist to play different songs. So let's say that the following songs are setlist staples: Josie, Peg, Hey Nineteen, Kid Charlemagne, Reelin' in the Years, My Old School, Aja, Time Out of Mind, Black Friday, Dirty Work and Show Biz Kids. That's 11 songs on an 17-18 song setlist (excluding the intro, outro, and band intro song), so they only have about 6 or 7 songs to choose from out of a possible 29 likely songs (40-11=29). And I know you've said they could shuffle their "hits" on a night to night basis, but you also have to realize that many of those songs were setlist staples back in 1993 and 1994... so based on your logic, they've been "whoring their back catalog of radio hits in order to make quick money" since they reunited in 1993. Just because the songs were "fresher" live in 1993 doesn't mean they weren't radio hits. They also played songs from Kamakiriad and 11 Tracks of Whack on those 93/94 tours, obviously to try to booster sales of those respective albums and therefore make more "quick money." But I don't see anyone making that argument... somehow, they've only really received the perception that they're touring to make money (what a novel idea!) in the past few years, and somehow that's correlated to lack of setlist variation in a way that I certainly don't understand.
Yeah, and you could say that with their catalog of 82 official songs, solo tunes, and unreleased material that they should be liable to choose songs from a pool that includes more than 40 tunes. But let's face it... they aren't going to play songs like My Rival and Here At the Western World as part of the regular setlist. Not that those aren't great songs, but they won't get a big, warm reception by most fans and more importantly, Donald/Walter probably aren't into those songs as much (and here I enter into the dangerous realm of assumption), and therefore, the band plays them with less energy. This is based on some recordings of those songs I heard from a couple of early 2009 setlists, where the audience didn't respond very well. And you might say: "Well if they're playing songs based on audience response, then they're trying to make 'quick money'." But here's the thing... they are playing songs that don't generate much of an audience response, namely Godwhacker and Your Gold Teeth (at least according to some concert attendees, concert-goers fled to the concession stands and bathrooms during these songs), and those songs have a very high energy to them. Now, the versions of Here At the Western World and My Rival from '09 that I've heard sound great and are very good songs, but there's very little energy to them. And I assume at least part of that is because Donald/Walter aren't exactly comfortable playing those songs and would rather play songs like Josie, which has a great energy to it live. Walter Becker has said that Josie is his favorite song live, and I'm glad that he can play it live (no matter how sick many posters on dandom are of hearing it) every night if that's what he wants, rather than succumbing to some absurd notion that if they play the same hits every show than they're corporate sellouts. Now if they do a 14 song setlist of the 14 songs on A Decade of Steely Dan except they play Josie instead of East St Louis Toodle-Oo, then you might be on to something.
And I know it's not a Steely Dan song, but there's certainly not any "quick money" making going on by playing a moderately obscure classic soul/funk/R&B song to introduce the band.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 09:46:46 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
SPOILER ALERT: A good not great source told me these nuggets will be
played at rarities night:BOSTON RAG, DR.WU, IGY, BAD SNEAKERS
PEARL OF THE QUARTER,THROW BACK THE LITTLE ONES we shall see
if my source is worth a damn!!! We will check my batting average
after the show!!! It must remain an unknown,however I can assure
you its not MARK FELT (THE REAL DEEP THROAT)
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 08:56:27 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
ygk: THANK YOU!!!!
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 08:50:57 ET
Posted by: ygk, nyc
...at the end of the day, you're going to see Steely Dan Live.
HULLO!!!
STEELY DAN LIVE - featuring some of the most talented musicians working today, performing old and new stuff, much of it nicely re-arranged.
Steely.
Dan.
Live.
You friggin people.
20 years ago you couldn't even imagine that.
Now we have it nearly every year and all some of the less than appreciative fandom does is b*tch at the setlists...christ...
How about some humble appreciation for what IS some of the best music being performed live today in any venue/format?
They're gonna play what they feel, and that's really not such a bad thing, whatever the setlist.
If you don't like it, don't go, and shut up, and take your $200 to your shrink to figure out how you got to be so morose. It will be much better spent than to promote the continuance of whiny, self-absorbed 'music lovers' who will run to the beverage line when Walter takes the mike, or when Mr. Beard takes an extensive solo piano introduction.
If you have nothing better to do than b*tch, please go to the Eminem site - you'll be in good company.
Christ, people, it's Steely f*ckin' Dan!
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 06:17:25 ET
Posted by: Michael,
Josey, regardless of where the seats are, $200 for a concert ticket is a rip-off. Some groups charge a lot more, I'm aware, but that doesn't suddenly make it a-ok.
As for the request nights argument, look, it's already been shown how they only changed around a couple of tunes from their usual setlist, so then, what exactly validates naming the show 'By Popular Demand' when they're basically ignoring the votes? (Yes, that's what they are: votes; doesn't matter if the wording suddenly changes to 'request' upon leaving the main website.)
If people don't have an issue with their generic, inflexible setlist, so be it. Hey, I did my part to try and change things, but if people are willing to bend over backwards, I'll take it that most of you simply don't care for the music and just go in order to "have a good time," i.e. getting boozed/drugged.
It's really disheartening to observe what Steely Dan has become. I thought if any group were impervious to that "old-time group whoring their back catalog of radio hits in order to make quick money" stigmata, it was definitely Steely Dan.
How wrong I was.
Date: Wed, August 17, 2011, 03:37:28 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly
It's: Yep, I'm indeed serious, but no Kool-Aid involved, just stating the situation as I happen to see it. I respect your disagreement but stand by my statement.
As I and ygk both mentioned in earlier comments, Walter and Donald have done interviews in which they quite clearly state that they take the requests/votes/whatever into consideration in directing the setlist but reserve a generous amount of veto power and personal judgment ... not a cut-and-dry balloting process. (On the online form -- after you click that "By Popular Demand - Vote" button, it phrases it "*Request* your favorite Steely Dan song and *help* [emphasis mine] decide the set list for the below shows.")
I think the fact that the process doesn't adhere to a strict voting protocol(e.g. anyone can plug in requests on any show, apparently as many times as they want), and thus isn't a controlled data set, underlines the fact that the input is being considered, but isn't being employed -- or represented as -- a fully democratic mandate.
Personally, I'm not inclined to think this is a case for moral outrage, mainly because if it was an actual "one [validated attendee]/one vote" situation, considering that the majority of attendees at any given concert are what most here would consider "casual fans", it would probably be an even less varied list than what some are complaining about.
Date: Tues, August 16, 2011, 23:52:05 ET
Posted by: ENTMOOT, FAIRFAX, ,VA
I have been capturing all the SD 2011 US Dates set lists and I am missing two so far.
Could someone help me out by posting the setlists for the Portsmouth, VA show on August 1, 2011 and the Interlochen, MI show from yesterday?
Thanks.
Date: Tues, August 16, 2011, 22:59:57 ET
Posted by: moray eel, jack
CJB, Misery and The Blues
m.e.
Date: Tues, August 16, 2011, 22:08:10 ET
Posted by: It's, Like This
Lonnie IS The Douche Nozzle, Security Joan are you f'in serious?!?!?!?!?
>>Date: Tues, August 16, 2011, 00:04:56 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly
Dean, thanks for pointing out the difference between "REQUEST" and "VOTE"!!<<
LOL!! You must be high girl. Didn't know you succumed to drinking the kool-aid. Joannie we hardly knew ye.
Date: Tues, August 16, 2011, 20:43:02 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
Yeah, what is going on this year with the setlists? Not the song selection or anything... but people not posting after their shows? Shame on all of you!
Date: Tues, August 16, 2011, 19:18:25 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray , Malibu
Lonnie Lonnie,
Really? You're going to crawl on here and give me grief for simply pointing out an inaccuracy in setlist reporting?!
You obviously came here just to provoke me. Really dude, I just don't think you are cut out for the open information and discourse and opinions that are what the Bluebook circa 2011 is. Clearly.
You remind me of that kid who gets picked last for the team, so he throws a hissy fit and decides not to play at all.
You told us all you hated soundchecks and slammed me for going to them. Yet when I search all of the Thackerville posts NONE are from you. You weren't even there. And the more I search I can't find any mention of Bad Sneakers at soundcheck. Let's just say that your right and it was soundchecked and you are not just lying, can you produce a setlist this tour with Bad Sneakers?
You want to go another round bumpkin pumpkin? Just say the word.
Da Aja View,
You are absolutely right. Shame on me. Before YoungWu's setlist post I saw the question from him,
"Any reports from the "By Popular Demand" night?"
No excuse, I know. But I guess I must have figured "still no reports" or set list. My bad.
Speaking of reports, any news from Interlochen?
And what about Saturday Night at Ravinia,
Did the storm drive people off the lawn on Saturday?
Was it the same system that hit Indiana?
Date: Tues, August 16, 2011, 19:13:16 ET
Posted by: Josey, Mass
I think the $200.00 a seat thing is for very good seats in select cities as I've read here about far more affordable tix in other places..whatever the reason...who knows?! Tickets were purchased long before setlists were posted. Again, I know I'm going to enjoy the hell outta the show...not sure what I'd have done with current setlist knowledge.
Date: Tues, August 16, 2011, 16:57:08 ET
Posted by: Peteb, UK
M/O/D/P - The Massey sounds like the kind of place. However, the avalanche of takers for the idea broke my internet so I can't look it up.
Surprised that the Rarities night still hasn't sold out. However, now that everyone's bringing their attorneys, that should fill the place out.
$200 a throw face value is not right. However, is that not the promoters pricing rather than the artistes?
Date: Tues, August 16, 2011, 14:25:07 ET
Posted by: ygk, nyc
I recall, in a smaller year, shown on MSG, most recently - on a short music show about 2009's tour, Walter stating something to the effect of, "yeah, we'll take requests...but it'll be run like the Electoral College; just because a song gets the most votes doesn't mean that we'll play it..."
They're gonna play what they feel...
Date: Tues, August 16, 2011, 12:20:44 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR
Hey, heads-up:
Video of a recent walk-off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFPhLgI8mDU
Titling says "Last Tango in Paris," but it obviously isn't.
Name that tune?
Date: Tues, August 16, 2011, 12:04:04 ET
Posted by: Lazlo Sanders, Boulder, Colorado
All this "not mixing things up"...Go on setlist.fm and browse other artists, see what they do per night/per tour. I'm a pretty big Paul Simon fan, caught a couple of his shows this last tour. Played a pretty similar show each night and I didn't complain one bit. I think some bands/acts do tend to mix things up more - I notice Cat Stevens' tour of Europe earlier this year was a good example of that: 10 or so shows, and each one pretty well mixed up from the last, with new or different songs most nights; I also feel, in my opinion, that bands like Muse are pretty hot on changing things around, but that's just me. All I'm saying: see what everyone else does and, perhaps, just take it easy in the future. The other thing is:...
...are they expecting people to go to more than two or so shows a tour? I mean, I know we've decided here that they seem to take some notice of what goes down on this board (DF's joke review as evidence there), but in their day-to-day "Hey, Walt, what do we play tonight?" "I don't know, Don, last night's set worked for me..." sort of gigging, maybe they're just not taking recurring audiences into their thought processes.
Just saying. I mean, what do we expect? Do we want them to be completely random? A jumble of songs? Or do we want what the Dan (and a lot of other acts do) which is to have a general skeleton of a set list and shift bits around or interchange as they feel--which they have been doing--and I think works.
(And by the why, I know the "jumble of songs" section of this will be picked up on as a "of course not, you idiot" type thing so I'll let you know now I'm exagerating. Point still stands though: I think the very fact that they are playing is something to hold on to. I met a woman at one the NYC gigs in 2009 and who came from the North West of England to see them. If I remember correctly, she'd seen the Liverpool show in 07 and the Birmingham show earlier that year. She said she cried in Birmingham when they left the stage, fearing she'd never see them again. Just saying, she'd give her left leg to see these guys play those songs--don't, for God's sake, start taking any of this for granted.
All I can think of is the "Do the Wu" campaign that accumilated in ecstacy in 09. Well, after that, seems folks want something even more...and I don't know what that is. And nor do Don and Walt, or so it seems.
End. Laz.
Date: Tues, August 16, 2011, 11:25:23 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
"Concerning the song listings per tour, these lists only take into account additional material, not frequency of play (save for a few exceptions, e.g. Almost Gothic being performed once), average number of songs being played per tour/show, setlist variation, and so forth."
This is true... but I think most people who have followed their setlists over the years know that each year's prototypical setlist had the same general framework with a few slight variations over each show. In other words, on a night to night basis, most fans in "x" city are going to hear the same setlist that was heard in "y" city, give or take. The lack of relative setlist variation has been occurring since 1993; it isn't a new phenomenon only appearing this year, and it shouldn't at all come as a surprise. Now, songs like Josie and Hey Nineteen were obviously fresher live in 1993, and I can understand some of the frustration concerning how similar the popular demand nights have been to the regular nights (which have been the only special setlist nights so far apart from the Aja nights and you know exactly what you're going to get at the Aja nights) because it appears they aren't making any effort to distinguish between the two. But as Dean and others have stated, you could certainly make an argument that most of the songs on their regular setlist would be part of a popular demand show.
"In regard to which songs are most appropriate in terms of popularity, they could shuffle through about 10 or so of their popular tunes per show on a random basis while throwing in four or five others which also vary per show. With 82 official songs plus various outtakes/rarities, that's more than enough material to spread around and randomize their setlists. Instead, they just perform the same handful of tunes over and over."
This kind of goes back to what I said in the previous paragraph, but you'll never get significant randomization of setlists on Steely Dan tours. They're not the Grateful Dead and have always done it this way since 1993. Even the (arguably) most "adventuresome" thing Donald Fagen has done, the Dukes of September, had the same basic setlist for each show. They might have been bigger risk-takers in 1993, 1994, and 1996 by playing stuff from their unreleased solo albums and debuting some new material on tour instead of in the studio, and of course, 2000 and 2003 are remembered fondly because those were the only years where Two Against Nature and Everything Must Go songs were played extensively. But I bet on the 1996 tour, some people were saying they wish they could hear Time Out of Mind and Show Biz Kids.
Of course, the setlists from 2006-now are extremely similar, and I think that's another source of frustration. We know we're going to get Hey Nineteen, Kid Charlemagne, Josie, and Peg at practically every show, and we know we're going to get Black Friday, My Old School, Aja and FM at many shows. But we also know that Time Out of Mind, Show Biz Kids, and Godwhacker are going to be played at most every show, and it's at least been that way since 2008. Apart from the original version of Reelin' in the Years in '09 and Your Gold Teeth this year, none of the newly added material has really become part of the regular setlists. I guess the point that could be made is that it would be nice if this year's setlist wasn't so similar to the setlists in 2006, 2007 (albeit a bit longer than those two years), and the later shows of 2009. Notice I didn't include 2008 and the earlier shows of 2009 because I feel like those shows did a much better job of mixing things up. And I think that might be partly what's pushing some people over the top this year along with the fact that they haven't distinguished very much from their regular setlists and the popular demand setlists... But once again, it shouldn't totally be unexpected.
Date: Tues, August 16, 2011, 10:21:47 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
I think the die-hards (blue-users) are practicing whats known as
tough love on the band, remember one is often the hardest on the
ones they love the most!!! Me--thinks its a healthy back and fourth!!
The bottom line for me, is that the band is on fire and playing as
tight as a 13-yr old virgin!! It will be a huge problem when they
start playing poorly and the performances are weak!! Does not appear
to be on the horizon, thankfully, done babbling, promise!!
Date: Tues, August 16, 2011, 08:21:37 ET
Posted by: Michael,
Lonnie, so in other words, people shouldn't hold their breath with the expectation that 'Rarities Night' will be inclusive of rarities, correct?
The Dean, their main site has a link which allows you to vote. There is no confusing the marketing of the 'By Popular Demand' concerts.
Josey, yeah, their choice of live material around TAN and beforehand was far and away superior to what they're currently doing. $200 = slap in the face, especially when you consider the current state of the economy. But then, they're well-off musicians with a skewed perspective.
DeaconBlues16, technically, they provide a link on their main site that tells people that they can vote for their favorite tunes. If that doesn't qualify as a request night, what does?
Naturally it depends on who you ask with regards to what is appropriate for a setlist. What cannot be disputed here is the bare minimum song changes from show to show.
Concerning the song listings per tour, these lists only take into account additional material, not frequency of play (save for a few exceptions, e.g. Almost Gothic being performed once), average number of songs being played per tour/show, setlist variation, and so forth.
In regard to which songs are most appropriate in terms of popularity, they could shuffle through about 10 or so of their popular tunes per show on a random basis while throwing in four or five others which also vary per show. With 82 official songs plus various outtakes/rarities, that's more than enough material to spread around and randomize their setlists. Instead, they just perform the same handful of tunes over and over.
They're certainly not the most democratic band.
Date: Tues, August 16, 2011, 00:04:56 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly
Dean, thanks for pointing out the difference between "REQUEST" and "VOTE"!! In interviews, D & W have joked that it was more of an electoral college system (even referencing the Gore / Bush "election"). Having been to the request nights in the past, I've no question they are taking into account the requests logged on the site, but certainly they aren't using the logged requests as "votes" to be adhered to. So I'm sure they are being guided by the requests, but using their good judgement as to what is viable for a live show.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 23:26:54 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Toronto, mere minutes from Massey Hall
Some interesting reading today, and a lot of it even fully thought through. I particularly enjoyed the tongue-in-cheek bit from the poster who claims to be "fed up with the Dan", though. Funny stuff. It was "tongue-in-cheek", right?
Here's what really piqued my interest in this veritable Sargasso Sea of posts: Suggested by Peteb, UK, it's a brilliant concept I think, although it seems at first blush to be a frivilous, pie-in-the-sky idea:
QUOTE: "BTW anyone know how much it costs to hire the guys? If there were enough hardcore fans to pay for a night we might get to hear the exotic numbers that way...except that such a passionate & opinionated crowd agreeing on what those two dozen-odd tracks should be would be like herding cats, IMHO..." END QUOTE
I'd like to helpfully point out that Toronto's reknowned Massey Hall is (a) one of North America's finest concert venues, in terms of both accoustics and sight-lines, (b) reputedly a favourite of Mr. Fagen's, and (c) available for private functions. I have no idea of the rental cost, but I do know that it does host private functions at least semi-regularly. This amazing, historical hall seats around 2700 patrons, and it makes all other concert venues look and sound like worthless shit. I'll throw in the first $5,000.00** for the booking if the rest of the disgruntled, argumentative so-called "Steely Dan fans" here and elsewhere could ever agree, not on a theoretical dream setlist (those details come later), but on the amount of money they'd actually be willing and/or able contribute to such a noble project. Ooops.....we've hit our first stumbling block.
Sadly, my cynicism is well-founded. We've all seen how long the Beacon "Rarities" show has taken to STILL not sell out officially, and we've all read the carping, whinging, and more-than-sporadic negative flatulence written here about the night of the 17th in NYC......all well in advance of the evening's performance itself, of course.
So, what chance does a 100% hardcore-fan-setlist-chosen rarities show at Massey Hall have? You will never, ever find me in Vegas, with or without a handle in my hand, but I'm betting the answer is one of the following:
1) Roughly the same chance that DF's upcoming solo work will sell several million CD copies worldwide and simultaneously eliminate autotuned, cookie-cutter pop from the face of the planet.
2) The exact same chance WB has of being hired to play the Mayor of Whoville in the upcoming re-remake of a certain Theodore Geisel classic.
3) About the same chance a ten-pound coconut cream pie has of making it through an overnight stay at Oprah's place.
4) All of the above. And any other laughably impossible impossibilities you'd care to add to your own theoretical list of really neat stuff that'll just never happen.
Oh well........there goes my Steely Dan Ultimate Rarities Night(tm) concert at Toronto's Massey Hall. Darn.
M/O/D/P
ps - "Herding cats"
pps - "Woody Herman and the Herd"
ppps - "Rotoscope Down"
pppps - **This admittedly generous cash offer is no joke. It is both serious and valid, but not valid in combination with any other generous offer, and is only both generous and valid as long as Mr. Becker and Mr. Fagen continue to pleasure both themselves and the rest of us by playing live music as "Steely Dan"**.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 23:12:04 ET
Posted by: Lonnie THE Kingpin, Kona, Hawaii
Ray Ray,
Really? Must y'all argue about how many times The Bear was played? Bad Sneakers (they sound checked it at Thackerville). Sad.
The reality here is that this is Don and Walt's enterprise. That is what it is -- nothing more and nothing less. They are out on the road to make money. While it is great to hear them live, the current set lists seem a bit lackluster, but then again they are not like Springsteen and change it up a lot night to night. Everyone is welcome to think that they are voting on songs, but the truth is that Don and Walt may consider the vote but they play what they want when they want to. While I will be a rarities night (albeit I am over 5,000 miles away from that venue as of this writing), I predict right here and now that most people on this board (if not the vast majority) will be upset by the set list. I hope I am wrong, but likely the Bear will resurface with other tunes that they have done before but not a lot (midnight cruiser, Doc Wu, Boston Rag [2000 excepted], etc). 2nd Arrangement is a virtual lock to not be played no matter how many people scream for it. I could foresee This All Too Mobile Home and perhaps Mr. LaPage will make an appearance. Planning on hearing a dream rarities night is nice, but no realistic. I'm just sayin'.
LTK
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 22:59:00 ET
Posted by: Da Aja View, Over here & here & here
Hey Ray
And what's with not scrolling to find stuff...Saturday's setlist was posted on Sunday @ 16:26:33.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 22:44:09 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
It's Like This,
Now, now let's not stir the pot.....
But to be clear, we were told to "Vote"
on your favorite song. Voting is still,
well, "voting". You sound kinda like a
2000 Palm Beach "butterfly ballot" tonight
Deano.
"Yes you did vote, but we never confirmed
nor denied how your vote(s) would be used."
It's like this, you are wrong about
how many times the Bear has been played
this tour. It has been played 3 times
not 2, with one confirmed entire run
through at soundcheck in LA, though I
am prety sure they probably soundcheck
it for sure opening night and in Portland.
Looking foward to any reports from
Interlochen.
And yes I wish I was there.
What's with still not posting entire setlists?
Ravinia Saturday August 13, 2011
1.Dizzy's Bidness
2.Your Gold Teeth
3.Aja
4.Black Friday
5.Hey Nineteen Play Video
6.Time Out of Mind
7.Godwhacker
8.Black Cow
9.Show Biz Kids
10.Bodhisattva
11.Dirty Work
12.Papa Don't Take No Mess
13.Babylon Sisters
14.Josie
15.Peg
16.My Old School
17.Reelin' in the Years
18.Kid Charlemagne Play Video
19.Last Tango in Paris
Did the storm drive people off the lawn on Saturday?
Was it the same system that hit Indiana?
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 22:43:32 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Ticket... YET, Mount Optimism, NJ
The frustration with D+W around here is palpable.
That said, although I do not yet have a ticket, I will be attending the Sept 17 Rarities show as it seems to be the last, best chance at hearing the most possible deep cuts. If that means Boston Rag, My Rival, YGT along with Bear, fine. I am optimistic that other tunes will be introduced and put to bed during the Beacon run.
Incidentally, the Sept 17 Rarities show will be the 17th anniversary of the Irvine show from 1994 which many of you Dan trekkies are no doubt familiar. What a great show that was. I was there, had awesome seats and was inebriated to a fault. But I sure remember seeing Dennis Chambers begin the show with True Companion which seemlessly flowed right into Aja. That was one of the last great concert moments before we all started spoiling the surprises for ourselves with internet-posted setlists. The magic of being surprised at a concert has all but disappeared for us. We must now use these setlists as a purchase-barometer - especially with the ever-escalating prices on these still-cherished ducats.
All of this said, will I be disappointed if the band hasn't prepared something extra special for Rarities night ? Safe to say... YES.
Here's a new discussion thread. What is up with Walter's girth ? He's looking more like Burl Ives. His guitar is now eclipsed by an expanding rotundness. Remember how small Gerry Garcia's custom guitar looked against his ample frame in those sloppy-sounding later years ?
Well... I'm just sayin'..
A review from their most recent Canadian show referred to Walt's .. "tummy."
It wasn't me. It was the reviewer.
I'm just saying..
Lastly, a nice shout-out to whomever put the Steely Song Score-bored 1993-present. That was my thing when I used to post on St. Al's defunct Steely message-board Sign In Stranger between 1995-2000. Ah, those were the daze.
Special shout-outs to Pete, Shari, Hoops, St. Al, YKG, mWorld (Kent??)
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 22:24:22 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
It's NOT like that at all.
It isn't "voting". It is "requesting". You didn't vote. You requested. ("Request your favorite Steely Dan song and help decide the set list for the below shows") I noted you could probably request multiple times, but wasn't sure when I posted. I see now that you can request as often as you like.
Yes, they used the word "vote" in a couple of places, but be clear here. There is no real "voting" as in, votes will be counted and acted upon. They make no representation they are playing a setlist based on the requests (as they did last tour). Again, here's the description for By Popular Demand:
By Popular Demand: Fans have always found a way to let Fagen and Becker know what they want to hear. This setlist represents oft-requested songs of recent years.
These requests (or votes if you must) are now positioned as a way for fans to let the band know what songs they like. Since there is no voting, and the band has not committed to play the songs requested by the fans of any particular show, it doesn't really matter if you can request for multiple venues, or request multiple times.
For the past tour they made it seem as though you were voting for the set to be played on the evening you were attending. This tour they make no claim and are clear to point out they are playing "oft requested songs of recent years"
I'm not defending the way they are doing this nor am I attacking it (though I would prefer they drop the pretext). I am simply explaining how they are approaching the matter for this tour--which is different than the way it was positioned last tour.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 21:49:42 ET
Posted by: It's, Like This
How can Dean Wormer and DeaconBlue16 rationalize that there is no fan voting this year? Technically? Lame. I tried it. You could vote for any song on the list multiple times, mutiple songs, but the kicker was - anyone could vote in any town! You didn't have to be going to the show. It's a sad sham guys. Dean Wormer you might want to quit while your behind. I see you in the hole 0-2 to the same guy.
>>Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 22:10:46 ET
Posted by: The Dean<<
>>Contrary to popular belief, there is no "voting" this tour (at least not on sd.com). You get to request ONE song for each venue. (I'm guessing you can request multiple times, but I have not tried it.)<<
Date: Thurs, June 02, 2011, 17:22:56 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray<<
>>Hey Kids,
Now you can all vote for what
ever songs you want to hear at
ANY of the "Fan Request" nights!
And you don't even have to have
a ticket.
"Thank you for submitting your request. Enjoy the show!"
Isn't that great?
In fact you can vote over and
over again. How cool.
http://www.steelydanrequestnight.com/
Yet again, what a waste and what
a total joke.
"Shuffle Diplomacy"?
"Diplomatic Immunity", is more apt.<<
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 21:41:27 ET
Posted by: Josey, Mass
Greg M - if I remember correctly, Steve Jordan is the drummer on True Companion. You're absolutely right - that guy has some of the slickest grooves going!
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 21:40:21 ET
Posted by: Technicolor Motorhome, Southern U S
Yes, Thackerville is BFE...except that it is an hour north of Dallas/Arlington/Ft.Worth...pop. approx. 5 million
And the way things are going with outdoor shows in general, I am glad I saw SD indoors this tour.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 21:07:12 ET
Posted by: It's, Like This
A bit slow to the party huh Dean Wormer and HouDan?
>>Date: Mon, June 27, 2011, 16:00:50 ET
Posted by: Lurker<<
>>Though I still think the best value
of the tour is easily Interlochen,
Michigan. Amazing acoustics,
amazing scenery and an amazing top
ticket price of $65!
Wish I could be back in my home state
in August for that show.<<
Interlochen is hardly out there, very famous place. I would consider
Thackerville as Bumfuck.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 20:20:06 ET
Posted by: El Sup, Louisville, KY
Hey all!
Just to reconfirm: Louisville Dandom gathering at Ri Ra Irish Pub in Louisville. Couple blocks from the Palace.
In regard to the rarities night show. After buying my ticket I was nervous this show was going to be a couple of "rare" tracks and that would be that. Now I have a VERY positive outlook for the setlist. The reason for this new found optimism is because of what happened with the 21st century Dan show. Apparently Don and Walt KNEW they weren't going to have enough material after this show was announced so they decided to throw in the royal scam. They have made no such backtracking for the rarities show (or any of the others for that matter) and I have a good feeling about this one.
But we'll see. Regardless, I can't wait for the Beacon shows!
Hope to see some of you before Steely Dan's first visit to Kentucky!
Take care,
El Sup
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 20:00:27 ET
Posted by: It's, Like This
Interlochen is an arts high school close to Traverse City, MI...Peter Erskine is an alumnus. I had the pleasure of hearing its big band circa 1976 (kids that can't yet shave blowing screech trumpet...you get the idea).
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 19:52:16 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Land of the non-disgruntled
CJB: I second ALL of your responses.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 19:47:28 ET
Posted by: hoops, From my sorta-smartphone
Hey gang. Got a txt msg that the blue is having technical difficulties. Sorry about that -- will be at a real computer in 90 minutes when I can fix things.
Jeff: I would have been thrilled to hear the same show both nights but could not attend Sat. You might consider the Sugarland concert in Indy Sat nite and just be damn thankful as to what you had to "suffer."
thanks to everyone for your technical patience and social tolerance.
Bests.
Jim
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 17:42:04 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR
"My brother is an attorney. I talked to him about filing a law suit. Maybe it can go class action so we can all get a partial refund."
An immediate response: ZOMG ROTFL
A considered response: Let us all know how that works out for you.
A more fully-considered response: So you head down to the Steely Dan show and you're disappointed with what you hear so you pick up the phone and call your attorney. You know, the one you called before, when you totalled your yellow Jag. And you drive to his office and spill out your tale, and maybe he's taking notes or maybe he's just bored, but in any rate he tosses you out of his office and katy-bars the door. "Jesus Christ!" he says, "Must be full moon." And from a cabinet in the wall he takes down a shot glass and a bottle, and pours out a shot of -- what's it called again, girls? What's that stuff?
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 16:48:20 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains, NY
Question:
Who played drums on True Companion? It's pretty slick performance. Thanks.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 16:48:12 ET
Posted by: bikemann, nj
Sorry for the multiple posts. No clue what the F happened
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 16:37:49 ET
Posted by: Jeff, Gurnee, IL
I purchased tickets for both nights at Ravinia.
It sucked that there was only one difference in the set list, especially after they went out of their way to say that each would be a special night. Had I know it would have been just one song different, I wouldn't have braved the horrible weather Saturday night.
My brother is an attorney. I talked to him about filing a law suit. Maybe it can go class action so we can all get a partial refund.
Stay tuned.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 16:32:11 ET
Posted by: ENTMOOT, FAIRFAX, VA
Does anyone have a setlist for the Portsmouth, VA show on August 1, 2011 that they can post here?
Thanks
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 16:29:43 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Wow! The prices are sure right for the Interlochen show:
$48.50 Bronze, $55.50 Silver, $60.50 Gold, $65.50 Platinum
That's a steal.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 16:28:11 ET
Posted by: Bikemann, NJ
Hard to stay positive about Rarities night when you hear about these setlists. My prediction,,,, The Bear and Dr Wu and the rest will be a standard show. Not that this would'nt be a great show. I think these special setlist nights are done just to make the fans pay new attention to there complete works... CD sales!!!!
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 15:54:54 ET
Posted by: Outlaw Nation, not there
Interlochen-See reference below from Wikipedia.
Interlochen Center for the Arts is a privately owned, 1,200 acre (5 km�) arts education institution in Interlochen, Michigan, roughly 15 miles (24 km) southwest of Traverse City. Interlochen draws young people from around the world to participate in intensive academics with additional study of music, theater, dance, visual art, creative writing, motion picture arts, and a brand new program of comparative arts. Interlochen Center for the Arts is the umbrella organization for Interlochen Arts Camp (formerly the National Music Camp, founded 1928), Interlochen Arts Academy (founded 1962), Interlochen Public Radio (founded 1963), and the "Interlochen Presents" performing arts series.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 15:05:18 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
THE DEAN, just classic rock stations and WXPN college rock station.
I wish to hell the radio would play more than just RICKY,REELIN,DO IT
but I guess thats what cd's are for???
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 15:04:41 ET
Posted by: SoulMonkey, Louisville, Ky
Louisville Danfest:
Ri Ra's 445 S 4th St. Walking distance from The Palace Theatre. 4pm untill showtime. Everyone welcome.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 14:57:21 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston
I'm curious about tonight's show. Interlochen, MI. Jeez thats about as abscure as it gets for a SD show. Can anyone here give a location and venue lowdown?
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 14:24:17 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Deacon Blues, from where I live Cousin Dupree got a helluva lot more
airplay than Black Cow ever did!! --DYLYNFAN
I think you are probably right about that. There are a few songs like Black Cow, Home at Last, Babylon Sisters (to name but a few) that really didn't get a lot of mainstream radio play. But it seems everyone had Aja and Gaucho back then, so most people have heard these songs many times in their lives (radio, parties, etc). Of course they probably got played on the album rock stations of the day, too,
These days radio is much more fractionalized than it was back then. So I'm guessing Cousin Dupree got a lot of radio play on certain formats. Did Dupree get airplay on Top 40 type stations, or only on Classic Rock stations (and those of similar format)?
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 14:18:57 ET
Posted by: Earthbound, Laughalot
Hey Kids,
Heads-up, if yer meandering up, down, or over to Louisville
on Wednesday: Janet & I are joining two local LOU virgins at
the Bluegrass Brewing Co. around 5pm for a li'l pre-show
imbibberance. BBC is located across the street and a few doors
south of The Palace on S. 4th St.
So far a half dozen or so are gonna show up, so let's make it
dozen or two! Depending how the turn out is, I may have to
"don" the (S)-(D) antennae set for the show! Have yet to see
a pair o' those busted out!
Be there...mahalo.
Earthbound
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 13:50:36 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
Deacon Blues, from where I live Cousin Dupree got a helluva lot more
airplay than Black Cow ever did!! Just sayin!!
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 13:36:49 ET
Posted by: Josey, Mass
Michael, I'm embarrased to say that the $200.00 was the actual price of the ticket. Obviously, they're very good seats...but I skipped the last tour due to the same basic setlist "been there done that" kinda thing. And before that, I had caught every tour since 1993.
Originally, the night of the show we have tix for was supposed to be "The Royal Scam" show...but that got changed..not sure why. I would love to see that show just to see THE FEZ!
I've been fortunate enough to see these guys in Atlanta many times, Las Vegas once, Charlotte, NC once, and Orlando once. Believe me - I'm a fan!! I'm certain that I'm going to enjoy the hell out of the show! Some of my best friends from GA are coming up so it'll be a great time. If they play Dr. WU...which I've voted for now many times, probably to no avail, that would be the gravy.
I've read many times here on the blue that Boston is THE city to catch this band in so hopefully that'll give the band an extra something to catch fire from. We'll see.
Lastly, I doubt we'll ever see another setlist like the one from the 2000 tour. That was the shit!
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 12:58:24 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis
Deacon Blues 16-
I totaly agree with your list as the most popular songs. I would think the last two I'd have to pick would be Pretzel Logic, Time Out of Mind. With a close call for Showbiz Kids. Time out of Mind may not get a response if you just told someone the song name, but once you hear the crowd reaction for it at concerts it seems a very popular song.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 12:57:51 ET
Posted by: ENTMOOT, FAIRFAX, VA
Does anyone have a setlist for the Portsmouth, VA show on August 1, 2011 that they can post here?
Thanks
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 12:20:05 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston
Hey Walter....Bob is not your uncle anymore
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 11:41:42 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
My last comment... I posted this question last night (and didn't answer it) and have posted it before. But no one responded, and I think this potential discussion could be an important point in the overall discussion about setlist variety and what songs fans truly like to hear. So, I'll pose this question once more and hope it generates a response?
If SD were to do a concert based on exactly, legitimately what the majority of their mainstream fans want to hear, what 20 SD songs (which is more than they're playing now) would fill out that setlist? In other words, what does everyone feel are their 20 most "mainstream" hits (or most well-known songs by any random mainstream fan)? Here's my list (in chronological order):
1. Do It Again
2. Dirty Work
3. Reelin' in the Years
4. Bodhisattva
5. My Old School
6. Rikki Don't Lose That Number
7. Black Friday
8. Bad Sneakers
9. Kid Charlemagne
10. Black Cow
11. Aja
12. Deacon Blues
13. Peg
14. Home At Last
15. Josie
16. FM
17. Babylon Sisters
18. Hey Nineteen
(IGY might be included, but I'm avoiding any solo tunes for now)
I think those 18 are fairly obvious choices, but the remaining two are a bit trickier. I think it's from these pool of songs that you could choose from though (and some of these are big stretches):
- Show Biz Kids
- Any Major Dude Will Tell You
- Pretzel Logic
- Doctor Wu
- Chain Lightning
- Don't Take Me Alive
- The Fez
- Haitian Divorce
- The Royal Scam
- I Got the News
- Time Out of Mind
- Third World Man
- Cousin Dupree
Like I said, I hope this question finally generates some discussion, and maybe we could come up with a semi-consensus "20 most mainstream popular SD tunes."
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 11:31:24 ET
Posted by: Bob, anytown
Everyone who attended the Saturday show should be OUTRAGED!!!
You should start a class action lawsuit for misrepresentation of the facts.
Request nite was a total sham
This BS is getting old & tired just like D&W.
I have officially stopped following these two Money Grabbers
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 11:30:04 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
"They played essentially the same set-list as they've been doing all along, therefore it was 'request night' in title only. "
Technically, it wasn't request night in title either.
" It's the choice of material which makes a tour most enticing, not simply the tight performance which isn't news given who we're talking about."
It depends on who you ask. Not everyone follows bands' setlists with such fervor as some of us do with Steely Dan. Most people who go to the show expecting/wanting to hear Rikki Don't Lose that Number aren't researching setlists, and those are the supposed "mainstream" fans for which Donald and Walter are "dumbing down" the setlists.
"then quickly descended back into typical money-generating waters"
You realize that the songs they choose to play doesn't define the amount of money they make? They are going to get paid regardless. Let's say they played a night of only rarities, true rarities, stuff that's never been played before on a night that isn't advertised as rarities night. I could be mistaken, but if a lot of fans at that hypothetical show were upset by the setlist, I still don't think Steely Dan would have to give back the money they earned from performing that show. Now, they might not get invited back to the venue, and their reputation could go downhill and maybe no other venues would be interested... so then we'd be left with no tour at all.
Either way, have you ever considered that those "money-generating" songs are a). really, really good songs and b). the band, Donald and Walter really enjoy playing those songs relative to their "deeper" cuts? For example, Aja (the song) really shows off the chops of Carlock and Weiskopf, and Kid Charlemagne is a moment for Herington to shine. Additionally, Walter Becker has said that Josie is his favorite song to play live. Just because they're played at nearly every show shouldn't take away from how awesome those songs are, both live and in the studio, and not to mention how those songs reflect the persona of Steely Dan and are more well-known than so-called "deep cuts." (By the way, how do we define deep cuts? Is Rikki Don't Lose that Number considered a deep cut because it's seldom played live? I think people on this website are too obsessed with hearing the least often played songs, as if it's some sort of contest).
Having said all that, even if they were to play more "deep cuts," they don't have a huge catalog to choose from, with only 82 "official" songs (not including solo albums which they are hesitant to play songs from these days). How many of those 82 are deep cuts? Since Godwhacker is played at almost every show, does that mean it's not a deep cut? Either way, it isn't fair to expect or hope for them to play their unofficially released material, especially considering some comments Donald and Walter have made in the past regarding some of that material (i.e. I think they referred to Dallas as "stink-o" are something along those line). So the fact that they even played The Bear at only a few early shows is something you never should have expected to see, and I'm impressed that they even played it once.
When I made my post last night about the 2009 Internet Request Night shows, I had to go back to the dandom.com archives to find some of those setlists. While I was going through them, I found two posts that I made around that time that I think are useful in this discussion, so I'll repost them now. This first one goes along with the previous paragraph:
Out of 82, they have only not played 18 songs. And they have played songs from the Nightfly, Kamakiriad, and 11 Tracks of Whack albeit not recently from the latter two. Would it be nice to hear some of those 18 songs? Yes but some for novelty purposes. I'll take Josie over Turn that Heartbeat Over Again 75% of the time, and I'm pretty sick of Josie. Would be nice to hear rarer tunes like The Second Arrangement, Junkie Girl and Sail the Waterway? Of course but even if they did play those songs, they would still have to play a good amount of hits. In other words, let's say there was a set that featured Yellow Peril, Kulee Baba, This All Too Mobile Home, Dallas, Mister Sam, Walk Between the Raindrops, Change of the Guard, Through with Buzz, Roaring of the Lamb, Your Gold Teeth II, Downtown Canon, Negative Girl, and The Great Pagoda of Funn, they would still play Josie, Peg, Kid Charlemagne, Hey Nineteen, Black Friday, Aja, and My Old School. I realize that this would be a preferable setlist for some even with the "usual suspects" at the end, but why in the world would they even think to play most of those songs? Even excluding the big hits, they play songs that 90% of fans would rather hear than the ones I provided.
And here's the next one, concerning which of their 82 official songs (+ songs from The Nightfly but not from other solo albums or any tunes they first played live such as Wet Side Story):
1993
- Peg (Previously Instrumental)
- Deacon Blues
- Josie
- Hey Nineteen
- Home At Last
- Chain Lightning
- Green Earrings
- Black Friday
- Bodhisattva
- Babylon Sisters
- Reelin� in the Years (Reworked Version)
- Third World Man
- My Old School
- FM
- (IGY)
- (Green Flower Street)
1994
- Kid Charlemagne
- Aja (Previously Instrumental)
- Sign in Stranger (Reworked Version)
1996
- Do It Again
- Everyone�s Gone to the Movies
- Bad Sneakers (Previously Instrumental)
- Any Major Dude Will Tell You
- Rikki Don�t Lose that Number
- Glamour Profession
- Black Cow
- Don�t Take Me Alive
- Midnight Cruiser
- East St. Louis Toodle-Oo
- (Ruby Baby) - Was this one played?
2000
- The Boston Rag
- Night By Night
- Monkey in Your Soul
- Daddy Don�t Live in that New York City No More
- Dirty Work
- The Royal Scam (Previously Instrumental)
- Janie Runaway
- Jack of Speed (Two Against Nature Version)
- Cousin Dupree
- West of Hollywood
- Almost Gothic (Wasn�t this done at one single show?)
- What A Shame About Me (Was this performed anywhere besides the Two Against Nature DVD?)
- Gaslighting Abbie
2003
- The Caves of Altamira
- Parker�s Band (Previously Instrumental)
- Haitian Divorce
- Time Out of Mind
- Godwhacker
- Slang of Ages
- Things I Miss the Most
- Everything Must Go
- Lunch with Gina
- The Last Mall
- Blues Beach
2006
- I Got the News
- Show Biz Kids
- Pretzel Logic (This one is a very interesting case. I know it was part of NYRASR set. I think it has been sprinkled in to various Steely Dan sets over the years, but as far as I'm aware, it has never been a regular in any set, besides NYRASR and DF's 2006 tour. I felt like this would be a good place to include it).
- Any World (That I�m Welcome To)
2007
- Pixeleen (Might Have Been Done Previously)
- Two Against Nature (Might Have Been Done Previously)
2008
- Everything You Did
- Gaucho
- (New Frontier) - Part of DF's 2006 set.
2009
- My Rival
- The Fez (Previously Instrumental)
- Here at the Western World (Original Version; Reworked version during DF's 2006 tour)
- Doctor Wu
- Reelin� in the Years Original
- Sign in Stranger Original
(Also of note: DF lead vocals on Haitian Divorce & Gaucho, which were previously sung by Walter. Version of Rikki Don't Lose that Number truer to original than 1996 version).
And now in 2011, they've added Your Gold Teeth (and the Bear of course). They're running out of "new" material from their official catalog to choose from, and some of it (Through With Buzz, Turn that Heartbeat Over Again etc) will probably never be played. Now, they could turn to solo albums and never officially released material, but it's clear that they are uncomfortable doing that on a consistent basis. Part of that could be because they want to make as much money as possible and are playing setlists that include songs that will make fans want to hear them again and venues want to invite them back... and that's not a dumb idea. But they also might just be more comfortable playing the songs they are playing now, many of which happen to be their most popular tunes and also some of their best tunes.
Dean is right about the fact their normal setlist isn't too different from what their most oft-requested songs would be. But I do think they've gotten a bit complacent with their "by popular demand" nights. It would make more sense for them to play Deacon Blues, Do It Again, and Rikki Don't Lose that Number instead of Godwhacker, Your Gold Teeth, and Show Biz Kids. Ironically, if they did that, there would be less deep cuts in the set, which by definition is what a popular demand show should be. After the 2009 Internet Request Nights, the songs they played on those shows became their "normal" setlist for several subsequent shows. But the Internet Request Night shows of '09 don't necessarily reflect the "regular" 2009 shows before the Request Nights. For instance, Time Out of Mind, Bad Sneakers (which probably is popular enough to be played at a Request Night), Godwhacker, and some other songs on their "regular" setlists were cut from their Request Night setlists. And that's how this years popular demand shows differ from the '09 Request Nights... this years shows are almost exactly the same setlist. And that's just complacency, in my opinion, but that still doesn't mean they aren't playing their most "popularly demanded" songs, as Dean has said.
(I have one more small comment to make but because of the length of this post, I'll make it in another post).
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 10:57:33 ET
Posted by: Michael,
P.S. Yeah, we get it: they're tighter than ever. I've never heard Peg done live so tight.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 10:55:15 ET
Posted by: Michael,
Most of those songs included on request night seem appropriate, but the inclusion of the few aforementioned tracks suggests that fan input was not a consideration and the lack of discernment between the typical setlist and request night proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt. There's no logical reason why they cannot vary up the setlist from show to show, save for Don & Walt's stubborn refusal to do so.
Bottom line: This tour has been a severe disappointment, falsely advertsied as being something apart from what it actually is -- more of the same. They used to have an obsession with quality output, an eye for detail in the studio, yet it's clear that they lack such proficiency when it comes to touring. What the fans want absolutely does not matter.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 10:54:06 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
AN OLD FRIEND FOR PITTSBURGH, that set-list as great as it was, I
believe was S.O.P. for the whole tour!That said I find the band much tighter live now than then IMHO! M/O/D/P FROM TORONTO I agrea with
much of what you say about MR. RAY, he brings alot to the blue, and
would people rather read 2 f*ckn post every day??? I look forward to
reading the blue first thing in the morning and would be pissed if
there wasnt much there! He keeps it real, and gives as good as he takes! JUST SAYIN
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 10:35:22 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Michael, I'm still curious about which songs played on request night you think would not among the most requested. It seems to me the bulk of every set includes the songs that are likely to be among the most requested. You do understand "The Bear" is not a song that most fans would request...right?
I can understand your unhappiness with the stagnant setlist from tour to tour, but I think your expectations for Request night are a bit unrealistic. The setlist they play every night is packed with, for the most part, songs that are probably among the most requested.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 10:33:47 ET
Posted by: It's, Like This
The Bear being included in ONLY the first two shows smacks of duping the hardcore fan into buying a ticket for a concert down the road. OK, so the two "golden ears" thinks The Bear sounds like crap?...then they should substitute another deep cut in its place that doesn't. Oh, and quit fiddling with the inclusion of the only deep cut in this tour's setlist, YGT.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 10:22:43 ET
Posted by: PGE, Sold-out...-ish
Checking for Beacon tickets almost daily and today was the first time I got "no tickets available" instead of suggested seats.
No big surprise that it's Aja-night that has sold out first. That is "sold out" in no tickets when I checked. I would expect tickets to pop up now and again until the day of the show.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 09:51:48 ET
Posted by: Michael,
They played essentially the same set-list as they've been doing all along, therefore it was 'request night' in title only.
And even if they exclude YGT, SBK and GW in favor of the more casual-friendly Do It Again, Rikki, etc., you still have to contend with the lack of variety on offer throughout the remainder of the tour.
Put another way, imagine if they went on tour again next year and instead of YGT, SBK and GW they threw in King Of The World, Only A Fool Would Say That, and Pixeleen. Would such admissions really warrant another extended tour? I think not.
Ultimately, the current tour carried potential excitement during the first several shows, what with them dusting off The Bear and all, but then quickly descended back into typical money-generating waters. It's the choice of material which makes a tour most enticing, not simply the tight performance which isn't news given who we're talking about.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 09:22:35 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
"There is no such thing as requests at a Steely Dan concert -- they play whatever they feel like playing."- Michael
Well, that just might be the case, as evidenced by the recent Popular Demand setlists. I guess I shouldn't have used the term "shocked" to describe YGT's inclusion--that was a bit of hyperbole to be sure. But YGT probably isn't an oft requested song and neither is Godwhacker. This tour it does seem they are simply playing whatever they feel like playing. With that said, what songs on the Request setlist (other than intro, outro and song introduction) do you think would NOT be one of the regularly requested songs?
But judging by the setlists from last tour's Internet Request night, there was a slight difference from the regular sets. In that tour, I would consider "I Got The News" to be a slight surprise for a "Request" night. Other than that, they were pretty much the songs I would expect the masses (even the Steely Dan friendly masses) to request.
Back before the last tour, we had some discussions here about what Internet Request night might include. I made the suggestion that Internet Request night might not be all that different from any other set, except it would contain MORE of the songs with regular radio play and fewer deeper cuts. But in reality, regular sets, Aja and Gaucho nights and any request nights will have, MOSTLY the same songs in the setlist. (This was based on the songs they seem most comfortable playing and play most often.) Even Royal Scam night, which would by definition include a couple of rarely played (but likely highly popular) songs, would still include mostly the same songs as any other setlist. Of course, on album nights, the order of the songs played would be much different.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 09:04:41 ET
Posted by: Michael,
That sarcasm aside, there really is no excuse for their disregard for requests and giving something back to the fans. They have a large pool of material to draw upon yet keep looking the other way. Concerts attendance doesn't come cheap these days. Guys like Stevie Wonder and Paul McCartney have shown a much better work ethic. Steely Dan, sadly, has become just another old-time group cashing in on their back catalog of radio hits, similar to how Jay & The Americans were still performing well past their heyday and Don & Walt would playfully mock them from the background.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 08:44:28 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston
I'll tell ya one damn thing too. If they don't play Do It Again and Rikki at the next concert I go to all hell is gonna break loose. I've been to 9 SD shows and haven't heard their two biggest hits one time. In fact, I don't think I've heard Reelin in the Years either. All i get is that Aja thing and some Royal Scam. Come to think of it this is a scam. A conspiracy people. Yea that's what it is. Just not right.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 08:42:32 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, en-why-see
Maybe The Donald & Co. forgot it was a request night as that set looked no different from what was played most any other "regular" night on this tour. Whatever, enjoy 3 nice clips (Kid C, Reelin & Blkow) from Chitown.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCc88Sl2VI4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E0Y6rED1Dc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E0Y6rED1Dc
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 08:29:20 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, at home
Shortly after the Tanglewood show I received a call that my step father had had a heart attack and he passed away a few days later, four months after my mother. Unfortunately since I was in the Lehigh Valley for over a week and really did not want to go right back for a number of reasons so we could not make the Musikfest show in Bethlehem and I ended up giving our tickets to one of his nephews and his wife. They had never seen Steely Dan and loved the show and the venue. They thought both were great. I really wanted to go having gone to college just 3 blocks away but it wasn�t to be. I�m now thinking of going solo to the Rarities night at the Beacon. I�ve never been there and that�s the one show I really want to see. Does anyone have any recommendations for hotels within walking distance to the theater? Also I�m not on the NYC Danfest distribution list so if there are any plans hopefully they�ll be posted here. Thanks
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 08:11:44 ET
Posted by: Fed Up, with The Dan
Don & Walt have absolutely no idea what's popular and obviously no concern for their fans. I'm disgusted with them! The request night is a total sham! It's gonna be really interesting to see what they play (or should I say, don't play) on the rarities night. I think most of us here are hoping for 'Second Arrangement', 'Kulee Baba', 'Dallas', etc., but considering they only played 'The Bear' on the first two nights of the tour, I doubt that's gonna happen. When are they rehearsing these "rarities" that were supposed to get treated to? I would have thought they would have played a few more throughout the tour in preparation for the big night. My guess is we're gonna hear "rarely-played" stuff that hasn't seen the light of day since the '93 & '94 tours. If I could speak with D&W I'd say, quit jerking us around with these tours, especially during the tough economic times we live in. It's a struggle financially for most of us to make it to a show, and then to be cheated by the false advertising, just adds insult to the monetary injury. I thought you guys had more class than that.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 07:09:42 ET
Posted by: Michael,
P.S. $200 per ticket is simply embarassing. Was that the actual price or scalped?
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 07:07:18 ET
Posted by: Michael,
The Dean, "To be honest, I'm a bit shocked they played YGT on Request night."
...You are? There is no such thing as requests at a Steely Dan concert -- they play whatever they feel like playing.
As for the "request night = whatever's most popular" argument, YGT Show Biz Kids and Godwhacker are definitely not among the most voted for songs -- no way, no how. Request night may as well be any other night on the tour.
Date: Mon, August 15, 2011, 06:47:38 ET
Posted by: Peteb, UK
Slightly confused about the "special request" thing - since the "normal" set list seems to be, as has been much bemoaned, D&W's best guess at what the most consumer-friendly selection, then surely a set list decided by weight of popular requests is going to be pretty much the same thing?
I mean, if I was a casual punter and only knew Rikki I would certainly shift myself to vote for it to get my $200 worth on the special request night. In other words, "special request night" would never be the mythical motherlode of deep cuts of which the hard nuts dream.
BTW anyone know how much it costs to hire the guys? If there were enough hardcore fans to pay for a night we might get to hear the exotic numbers that way...except that such a passionate & opinionated crowd agreeing on what those two dozen-odd tracks should be would be like herding cats, IMHO...
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 22:49:21 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Regarding the current setlist discussion, as others have pointed out, this should not at all be unexpected, based on the first "by popular demand" night (thanks to The Dean for reminding everyone that these aren't Internet Request Nights exactly or at least not advertised as such). Now you could argue that it's complacent, and even I might have to agree with that. It's plainly obvious that Rikki Don't Lose that Number and Do it Again fit the "by popular demand" mold better than Godwhacker and Your Gold Teeth. It might be a little disappointing that they aren't really changing up their normal setlists much from their special setlists; it takes away some of the excitement of the special setlists. But as myself and others have stated, you don't go to the concert for the setlist; you go for the band, the music, and the experience. Just for fun though, here are the eight 2009 Internet Request Night setlists (and there might be some inaccuracies here):
7-25-09 Boston, MA �Internet Request Night�
1. Teenie�s Blues (Intro)
2. The Royal Scam
3. Bodhisattva
4. Hey Nineteen
5. Black Friday
6. Babylon Sisters
7. Aja
8. Peg
9. Dirty Work
10. FM
11. Rikki Don�t Lose That Number
12. Doctor Wu
13. Any Major Dude Will Tell You
14. Do It Again
15. Love is Like An Itchin� in My Heart/Band Intros
16. Black Cow
17. Josie
18. Don�t Take Me Alive
19. Kid Charlemagne
20. Reelin� in the Years (Encore/Original aka Dry and Heavy (?))
21. My Old School (Encore)
22. Dirty Water (Encore)
23. Last Tango in Paris (Outro)
8-01-09 New York, NY �Internet Request Night�
1. Teenie�s Blues (Intro)
2. Black Cow
3. Aja
4. Deacon Blues
5. Peg
6. Home At Last
7. I Got the News
8. Josie
9. Kid Charlemagne
10. Hey Nineteen
11. Dirty Work
12. Rikki Don�t Lose that Number
13. Black Friday
14. Daddy Don�t Live in that New York City No More
15. Babylon Sisters
16. Any Major Dude Will Tell You
17. FM
18. Love is Like An Itchin� in My Heart/Band Intros
19. Doctor Wu
20. Don�t Take Me Alive
21. Reelin� in the Years (Original aka Dry and Heavy (?))
22. My Old School (Encore)
23. Last Tango in Paris (Outro)
8-4-2009 New York, NY �Internet Request Night�
1. Teenie�s Blues (Intro)
2. Black Friday
3. Aja
4. Hey Nineteen
5. Peg
6. Dirty Work
7. FM
8. Rikki Don�t Lose that Number
9. Home At Last
10. Doctor Wu
11. Any Major Dude Will Tell You
12. Do It Again
13. Deacon Blues (?)
14. Love is Like An Itchin� in My Heart/Band Intros
15. Babylon Sisters
16. Daddy Don�t Live in that New York City No More
17. Black Cow
18. Josie
19. Don�t Take Me Alive
20. Kid Charlemagne
21. Reelin� in the Years (Encore/Original aka Dry and Heavy (?))
22. My Old School (Encore)
23. Last Tango in Paris (Outro)
8-11-2009 New York, NY �Internet Request Night�
1. Teenie�s Blues (Intro)
2. Black Friday
3. Aja
4. Hey Nineteen
5. Peg
6. Dirty Work
7. FM
8. Rikki Don�t Lose that Number
9. Home At Last
10. Doctor Wu
11. Any Major Dude Will Tell You
12. Do It Again
13. Love is Like An Itchin� in My Heart/Band Intros
14. Babylon Sisters
15. Daddy Don�t Live in that New York City No More
16. Black Cow
17. Josie
18. Don�t Take Me Alive
19. Kid Charlemagne
20. Reelin� in the Years (Encore)
21. Last Tango in Paris (Outro)
8-25-2009 Los Angeles, CA
1. Teenie�s Blues (Intro)
2. Black Friday
3. Aja
4. Hey Nineteen
5. Peg
6. Dirty Work
7. Bodhisattva
8. Rikki Don�t Lose that Number
9. Home At Last
10. Doctor Wu
11. Any Major Dude Will Tell You
12. Do It Again
13. Love is Like An Itchin� in My Heart/Band Intros
14. Babylon Sisters
15. Daddy Don�t Live in that New York City No More
16. Black Cow
17. Josie
18. Don�t Take Me Alive
19. Kid Charlemagne
20. Reelin� in the Years (Encore)
21. Last Tango in Paris (Outro)
09-04-2009 Chicago, IL
1. Teenie�s Blues (Intro)
2. Black Friday
3. Aja
4. Hey Nineteen
5. Peg
6. Dirty Work
7. Bodhisattva
8. Rikki Don�t Lose that Number
9. Home At Last
10. Doctor Wu
11. Any Major Dude Will Tell You
12. Do It Again
13. Parker�s Band (?)
14. Babylon Sisters (?)
15. Love is Like An Itchin� in My Heart/Band Intros
16. Black Cow
17. Josie
18. Don�t Take Me Alive
19. Kid Charlemagne
20. Reelin� in the Years (Encore)
21. Last Tango in Paris (Outro)
10-21-2009 San Jose, CA
1. Teenie�s Blues (Intro)
2. Black Friday
3. Aja
4. Hey Nineteen
5. The Royal Scam
6. Bodhisattva
7. Peg
8. FM
9. Pretzel Logic
10. Any Major Dude Will Tell You
11. Rikki Don�t Lose that Number
12. Do It Again
13. Love is Like An Itchin� in My Heart/Band Intros
14. Babylon Sisters
15. Deacon Blues
16. Josie
17. Black Cow
18. My Old School
19. Don�t Take Me Alive
20. Kid Charlemagne
21. Reelin� in the Years (Encore)
22. Last Tango in Paris (Outro)
10/25/2009 San Francisco, CA
1. Teenie�s Blues (Intro)
2. Black Friday
3. Aja
4. Hey Nineteen
5. Bodhisattva
6. FM
7. Any Major Dude Will Tell You
8. Rikki Don�t Lose that Number
9. Peg
10. Do It Again
11. Love is Like An Itchin� in My Heart/Band Intros
12. Babylon Sisters
13. Deacon Blues
14. Josie
15. Black Cow
16. Dirty Work
17. Don�t Take Me Alive
18. My Old School
19. Kid Charlemagne
20. Reelin' in the Years (Encore)
21. Last Tango in Paris (Outro)
Not much different among them when it really comes down to it. But what does everyone think a real Internet Request Night would like? As in, what are the most popular 20 or so SD songs to "mainstream" Steely Dan fans?
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 22:20:31 ET
Posted by: PGE, Setlists 12 & 13
So according to the setlists published at setlist.fm what happened from the Aja-evening on the 12 to the Request-night on the 13 was that some songs were shuffeled around to change the order and four songs dropped althogether:
* Black Cow
* Deacon Blues
* I Got the News
* Everything Must Go
making place for two not played the previous show:
* Bodhisattva
* Babylon Sisters
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that par for the course as far as setlist changes from show to show goes?
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/steely-dan/2011/ravinia-festival-highland-park-il-7bd082a4.html
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/steely-dan/2011/ravinia-festival-highland-park-il-4bd0ff0a.html
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 22:10:46 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Josey, you can expect to hear pretty much the same setlist as most other nights. If they are really true to the requests, you are likely to hear NO "unusual" songs or deeper cuts. You can be sure the "hits" (or songs that received regular radio play) will get the most requests.
This is the description of By Popular Demand at Steelydan.com:
"Fans have always found a way to let Fagen and Becker know what they want to hear. This setlist represents oft-requested songs of recent years."
Contrary to popular belief, there is no "voting" this tour (at least not on sd.com). You get to request ONE song for each venue. (I'm guessing you can request multiple times, but I have not tried it.)
Judging by the description, and the method of requesting, this show is clearly for those who want to avoid hearing anything the least bit obscure.
To be honest, I'm a bit shocked they played YGT on Request night. I prefer the list they played in Ravina to the list that would likely be the actual requests taken at face value. But I can understand being upset if, when you shelled out the money for the concert, you were hoping to hear only the songs that got the most radio play in the 70's.
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 21:48:49 ET
Posted by: An Old Friend, From Days Gone By
Eighteen years ago at this very moment, I witnessed the concert that I never, ever thought I would see. Since that time, I�ve attended close to 50 shows, but none will ever compare to the first one that night in Pittsburgh in 1993. Oh to get this set list just one more time:
Royal Scam /Peg / Aja (instrumental intro)
Green Earrings
Bodhisattva
I.G.Y.
Josie
Hey Nineteen
Book Of Liars
Cringemaker
Chain Lightning
Band Intro
Our Lawn
Green Flower Street
True Companion
Black Friday
Second Set:
Tuzz's Shadow
Deacon Blues
Tomorrow's Girls
Babylon Sisters
Reelin' In The Years
Fall Of '92
Third World Man
Trans-Island Skyway
Countermoon
Teahouse On The Tracks
My Old School
FM
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 21:27:54 ET
Posted by: Josey, Mass
Clarification: $200.00 per ticket.
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 21:27:00 ET
Posted by: Josey, Mass
I have two tickets to the "Request Night" show in Boston that only cost me $200.00.
I'm concerned.
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 21:11:31 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston
The Mexican food ain't bad though
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 20:50:36 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
HouDan,
We have heard about the schools
in Houston not to mention the
crime, pollution, poverty, but
politely, "no", we meant "class".
I wouldn't even feel safe stopping
for or eating that "dry" Texas
barbecue in Houston.
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 20:47:28 ET
Posted by: Michael,
Jazzassin, you made some good points, but I'll have to disagree with you that it wouldn't matter if no more good music ever came out. That would truly be horrible. It's a lot more difficult to find great new material. The new smooth jazz is corrupt to my ears, nowhere near as masterfully done as in decades past. The "monster" session players and all-around atmosphere of the 70's was perfect for the jazz/fusion sound I prefer.
Ultimately, the blame is on the industry itself and, partially, the consumers who are part of the herd mentality. The industry has figured out how to successfully market and sell trash to people who have been progressively dumbed-down, that don't know how to differentiate between quality and garbage. The industry only cares about a product they can produce and sell on the cheap; they do not want nor care for promoting and developing talented artists. Seriously, name for me some new artists whose music will be remembered decades from now, whose back catalogs will always sell alongside the likes of The Beatles, Steely Dan, Chicago, Stevie Wonder, et al. Not happening.
Even the artists that reform after having seperated long ago just want to suck as much money out of their aging fanbase as is possible. It's one big joke. There's no valid reason why Steely Dan cannot add a few different tracks to the lazyman setlist they trot around everywhere. Don can write all the ironic mock-criticism on his webpage to cover their asses and take a cheap swipe at some of the fans while he's at it. For one thing, they advertise 'request night,' then come out and play essentially the same set-list as the night before. That just smacks of arrogance and complete lack of consideration. I'm tired of the "Steely Dan can do whatever they want" excuse to justify their lack of artistic integrity. They just want an easy paycheck.
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 20:24:56 ET
Posted by: HoudanFan, Houston
Many of my friends there had
parents who were also from the lovely
United Kingdom and it was those families
who first taught me the real meaning of
"class".
I think he meant "Ass"
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 19:34:11 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
http://www.chicagonow.com/booth-reviews/2011/08/concert-review-steely-dan-at-ravinia-festival/
Thanks for the reports from Chicago.
My kind of town, just like Toronto
where I used to spned quite a deal of
time. Many of my friends there had
parents who were also from the lovely
United Kingdom and it was those families
who first taught me the real meaning of
"class".
But still love my Chicago! www.sweetbabyrays.com
Sweet Baby Ray has a fresh rack of baby backs
on the smoker in the den for all to taste this
lovely Sunday.
Enjoy!
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 18:29:18 ET
Posted by: web review, w
http://lakeforest.suntimes.com/7066020-417/pair-of-steely-dan-shows-impress-fans-at-ravinia.html
"And on Saturday, the format switched to a sort of request show, in which fans could help create the set list by voting for their favorite tunes on the Internet.
Core members Donald Fagen and Becker refrained from giving much insight as to how they used the fan input, but Saturday night�s performance didn�t fail to impress."
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 17:36:32 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
I posted earlier, but it didn't go through for some reason, I guess.
Anyways, with last night's setlist posted, I just gotta say... they have a lot of balls to call these shows special "Request Nights". I mean, this is getting fucking ridiculous.
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 17:29:21 ET
Posted by: Edd, MN
I don't think we will be hearing My Rival or Babylon Sisters at the Minnesota State fair.
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 16:26:33 ET
Posted by: Really?, Request nite?
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 11:28:05 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
Any reports from the "By Popular Demand" night?
Intro: Dizzy's Bidness
Your Gold Teeth
Aja
Black Friday
Hey Nineteen.
Time Out of Mind
Godwhacker
Black Cow
Show Biz Kids
Bodhisattva
Dirty Work
Papa Don't Take No Mess
Babylon Sisters
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Reelin' in the Years
Kid Charlemagne
Outro: Last Tango in Paris Theme
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 14:42:16 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, new music?
Michael,
While I am really excited to hear what any new albums from Don, Walt or Steely Dan will sound like, I don't think it's a big problem that there isn't released more really good new these days than it is.
First, I don't think the situation is that bad after all. There is a lot of great music made all the time, but you may have to dig a little deeper into the pile of commercial crap to find the real gems.
Second, and more important, is that I can't really believe any of us have ever dug deep enough into the history of music to say we've already heard everthing of value, or at least that we've heard it enough.
Steely Dan is luckily not the only musical project that's worth a liftime of studies and fascination, and there are too many great records made during the last 70 years for anybody to get to know them all inside out during a lifetime.
So whenever you want some "new" music, just dive into history, read some good artist or band biographys about your favorites, find their sources of inspiration, or their sidemen and affiliates, follow links and listen some more.
Most of us now have access to millions of songs through streaming or download services like iTunes and Spotify, and it should be possible to find more interesting stuff that way than you can actually handle, regardless of which genres you prefer.
Two really great and Dangential albums from the last decade that I would recommended strongly to the jazz fans are:
Michael Leonhart - "Slow" (2002) w/ Michael L. and Jon Herington.
They both play guitars, and Michael also trumpet, of course, and it's a deeply original and beautiful album consisting of both original songs and standards.
and
Roger Rosenberg - "Baritonality" (2009).
Roger has chosen the most demanding instruments in the woodwinds family, and shows what a master musician he really is.
Mostly, it's the baritone sax of course, but he also works the soprano, and on a heavenly beautiful ode to the late great Michael Brecker, "Mike", he makes it perfectly clear what fantastic instrument the bass clarinet is in the hands and mouth of the right player.
And please remember, with jazz music it's often like it is with the Dan; you have to give a good record some time to grow on you until it becomes a great record.
Which is a good thing, since it makes sure we'll never be out of great "new" stuff.
If there was no more new music at all to be released from now on, it wouldn't be a major catastrophe, imho.
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 13:58:50 ET
Posted by: Bob, NYC
I've long suspected that they aren't fond of playing Rikki, but I thought for sure they would have been obliged to trot it out for a request night.
We die-hards might not be rabid about it but most of the listening public is.
Ditto for Do It Again.
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 12:19:29 ET
Posted by: A, Fan
Crowd reaction is a big part of any concert. Ideally, I'd love to have a stadium packed with hardcore fans in which the place implodes upon the opening notes of say, King of the World being played for the first in decades. But the reality of it is that many of the people around me don't know any songs until Hey Nineteen. I feel for those fans because their ticket revenue is as important as mine in making the tour happen. They keep their highest charting single out of the set list, and their 2nd highest gets played maybe 10 percent of the time. But I'm never going to have my stadium fantasy, so I say throw these people a few bones. I won't complain.
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 11:42:41 ET
Posted by: Michael,
Wow, really? They just recycled the same setlist and changed around a couple of tunes? How cheap is that?
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 11:40:17 ET
Posted by: Kevin, Chicago
A bit disappointed in the fact that both shows were essentially the same setlist except for a few songs. I mean while the band was tight and sounded great, please don't advertise an Internet selection night if you just replay all of Aja, and throw in two different songs. Real fans would have loved a completely different setlist, but maybe that would require too much effort to practice other than a replay of all of Aja.
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 11:28:05 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
Any reports from the "By Popular Demand" night?
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 09:34:28 ET
Posted by: Michael,
I'm serious. You know something? It's great that SD is still out performing and all, but I've never seen a drought of good music like this. Concert reports are good and all but cannot compensate for the lack of new material.
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 09:26:55 ET
Posted by: It's, Like This
Oh Michael, Oh Jesus
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 09:22:15 ET
Posted by: Michael,
There hasn't been anything new and exciting going on in the world of music for quite some time now, what with Donald's solo album not coming until later this year or early next year, and nothing new from the Dan since 2003.
Thankfully I can always keep myself busy composing my own music. It's a great ability to have, particularly during a drought like this.
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 04:57:27 ET
Posted by: Peteb, UK
@M/O/D/P - I agree and I wonder too if people don't have a taste for dark, negative, contrary commentary, then, er...you know what's coming...how can they stand Steely Dan?
@Security Joan (a few days back)- this band playing Surf and/or Die live?...that has got my head spinning!
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 02:05:18 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Toronto, El Jimador Anejo
Just for context, my somewhat meandering post immediately below was composed in response to some anonymous poster's gratuitous & insulting bits that have now (appropriately) disappeared. In case anyone's, y'know, keeping track. Just for "context".
Date: Sun, August 14, 2011, 01:45:08 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Toronto, Cazadores Anejo
Hey, everyone.....Hi.....How ya doin' ?
Please permit me to re-introduce myself. I've been a long-time reader here, and occasionally I post what I like to to think are some well-considered (perhaps even, sometimes, properly spelled) words here. Concert reviews, photographic links 'n' stuff. Maybe even some funny bits. Like I said, "occasionally".
Anybody wanna know what sometimes makes me shrink away from reading here on The Blue, let alone posting?
No, really. Anyone here give a flying Razor Boy??
Well, here it is, totally unsolicited by anyone, and purely for my own amusement, if not yours. We have this guy, "Lurker Ray" who, as it happens, has more than a few - shall we say - "prickly" opinions. He also shares readily and generously with all of us here......regularly. For those of you who don't get what I'm referring to, I suggest an eight hour/two-or-three year back-review-tour of The Blue. See....I told ya........
I, for one, find "Lurker Ray" to be, on balance, roundly entertaining. Yeah, once in a while I do disagree with him. But, geez, what's with all of the folks here who can't take a provocative statement and either (a) just ignore it, ("move on, shifty!") or (b) come up with a cogent counter-argument? And then defend it in a respectful manner? (Note that for the purposes of this conversation that "cogent" does NOT mean "ignorant" or "profane" or "juvenile" or "asinine" or even "UFC-tattoo-covered-clinically-brain-dead-illiterate"). Yes, yes, as a regular reader I know that our pal Ray often responds in kind to these idiotic, tiresome "internet tough-guy" attacks, and truthfully I sometimes wish he wouldn't do that (although I spat up a flagon of coffee when he referred to one detractor recently as a "vaginal wart". Just me, we understand), but really....why all of the wasted posts attacking a valuable contibutor/kindred spirit here??
I think it's obvious that "Lurker Ray" does not require the likes of me to endorse his presence here. But I just had to say something.
So, not to polarize the discussion any further (or detract from the jaw-droppingly-good current 2011 Steely Dan tour as it unfolds), but.......Can I personally request that those of you who can't seem to digest Lurker Ray's posts without resorting to personal ("ad hominem") attacks......Can I ask you clucks to just ignore his posts and contribute postively yourselves (as he has done here consistently for years), or shut the hell up?? Can I do that??
It's a personal request. From me.
M/O/D/P
ps - To Ray - "syphilitic miasm" isn't bad, don't get me wrong. I chuckled, of course. I just happen to prefer "vaginal wart". It's a personal thing, I suppose.
pps - "Regular reader"
ppps - Rodney King
pppps - September 17th 2011
ppppps - I'll be there - what about the rest of you?
pppppps - "The Very Best of Wet Willie Featuring Walter Becker and Donald Fagen!!"
Date: Sat, August 13, 2011, 21:21:12 ET
Posted by: Eric, Portland, OR
The Last Mall was also played in San Diego, in 2003(9/26 I believe). I was at that show, and thought it sounded GREAT. Was very surprised to hear it, considering it had only been played once before in that tour.
Date: Sat, August 13, 2011, 18:51:24 ET
Posted by: moray eel, n?
hoops:
I'm not sure if it is wise for me to acknowledge my stalkers. However, if I see you by The Beacon I may risk it.
m.e.
Date: Sat, August 13, 2011, 15:55:46 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
I'm curious,
Is there a known medical term that would apply to someone who feels the need to post inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum like The Bluebook, with the primary intent of provoking or otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion, yet has NEVER given ANYTHING back to the greater
Dandom community?
Would "troll" be the proper term?
What about "syphilitic miasm"?
Would that be more applicable terminology?
Date: Sat, August 13, 2011, 13:27:59 ET
Posted by: WakeMichael, Chicago
Super tight set of Aja. I was in the lawn so we couldn't see them take the stage. My girlfriend asked me why Ravinia would play a Steely Dan album on the speakers before they took the stage. I told her the scoop on the first set and she didn't believe me. I assured her it was them playing.
What was the setlist after Aja.
Date: Sat, August 13, 2011, 12:17:24 ET
Posted by: PGE, (At the local pub, pondering how to exchange the current playlist for one filled with Steely Dan/Fagen/Becker etc.
"everyone on ther fwwt?"
Skip the reading glasses Hoops, I was sure you were using some young kids up-to-date, hip, edge of the whatever type of modern computer message English.
;)
Happy to hear that the band is tighter than ever. And that there is room for improviation.
Let's see what tonight's By Popular Demand brings compared to the previous Los Angeles date.
Date: Sat, August 13, 2011, 11:29:53 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Thanks for the report. I'd love to hear EMG live.
Hoops, you said it was "Mostly the bris crowd". Was the place full of Mohels?
:#)
Date: Sat, August 13, 2011, 10:19:14 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick
Moray Eel: I don't believe you because not once did you say "hello" to me and I sure didn't see you.
I need to bring my reading glasses next time so my tweets are more understandable. "everyone on ther fwwt?"
Mostly the bris crowd. Very nice venue but older than usual crowd and much more upper crust--think maybe East Long Island types. More than a couple grey-haired corporate exec types in their Ralph Lauren laughing through the show with their Jannie Runaways on their laps.
Whether you think the set list is mixed up enough these days, the playing is at a whole new level this year with all sorts of spaces left for little and big improvisations that are so amazingly tight. Seems very much in the spirit of Ellington's bands in that respect.
Gotta run...overlept...I'm late.
Thank you T.
Jim
Date: Sat, August 13, 2011, 09:57:29 ET
Posted by: moray eel, ravinia
Some quick things from last night's show:
I was the only person in a Steely Dan shirt (that I saw).
Hoops was stalking me (at the Metra stop on the way to the show, arriving at the festival, at the will call window). He kept showing up right over my shoulder.
The crowd was about 5% Steely Dan fans, and 95% rich members of Ravinia who just go to enjoy some music, food and wine on a summer evening.
Donald seemed much more healthy. He had more energy and was bouncing around on stage a lot.
Walter is starting to look like Apple founder (and my cousin), Steve Wozniak.
This was the tightest the band has ever sounded. Imagine a perfectly choreographed stampede of elephants.
Walter's best solo was on Josie. The crowd loved it. Herington's best was on Black Friday.
I'm thankful that Everything Must Go and Godwhacker were played. Both sounded great and I like it when they play the new stuff.
m.e.
Date: Fri, August 12, 2011, 23:38:40 ET
Posted by: Team Truth, tour central
Selfish Gene,I do think there is an entry for that in the DSM-IV. But no cure. Thank you for the chuckle.
Date: Fri, August 12, 2011, 23:14:03 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
Can we keep it tourcentric here?
Date: Fri, August 12, 2011, 23:08:22 ET
Posted by: Selfish Gene, The X-Roads
I'm curious.
Is there a known medical term that would apply to someone who feels the need to respond directly and specifically to people who have not asked for a response or an opinion from said person?
Would "megalomaniac" be the proper term?
What about "asshole"? Would that be more applicable terminology?
Date: Fri, August 12, 2011, 22:17:26 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
"One nice thing: the ushers hold the drink runners from going back to their seats until the song is over."
-Hoops via Twitter at Ravinia
Should be a rule at EVERY show!
Date: Fri, August 12, 2011, 20:00:21 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, Don't Cry for Me, Ravinia
Ahem, Jim. Would LWO evah go to a SD show and NOT wear animal print? I think not! I have a whole closet dedicated to tour wear, which is why sharing it with someone is so not an option.
And, as we say in Podunk Holler, Sec. Joan, if the good lord willin' and the creek don't rise....honey, I will be there, yes, I'll be there. That said, I may be sleeping in Central Park in my tour wear. (Still paying for past tour sins, alas.)
But the real reason I am not in Ravinia for the show is that its too damn close to the Iowa State Fair.
Date: Fri, August 12, 2011, 19:07:42 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
Ray,
I was really hoping for EMG in Bethlehem. No more fitting setting.
You have to see the Musikfest setting. Shiny new venues and funk bands constructed among massive, black 19th century steel mill blast furnaces and decaying brick and stone factory buildings and abandoned warehouses, stretching for blocks and blocks. The place is stark and enormous, a scene out of an Upton Sinclair novel, or Newark.
It was cozy at the top, til that ill wind started blowing....
This was somewhat of a Steely Dan "Casino set", like what I've heard twice at the Borgata. The Sands Casino is on the complex, and I suspect that much of the crowd were less die-hard Dan Fans (see Beacon) and moreso curious Musikfest denizens.
Spectacular execution. They are as good, or better than ever.
Date: Fri, August 12, 2011, 18:40:59 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Hoops,
Thanks so much for the play-by-play tonight & tomorrow from Ravinia.
I know I speak for many of us here when I say, next to being there,
there is nothing better than sitting on the veranda with a libation
and following the ticker tape in real time. Really looking forward
to it and let's hope that that pesky rain & humidity stays away especially since the majority of the crowd will be on the lawn tonight and tomorrow. Hopefully we will have something new & fantastic up for the listening pleasure of those following along by tomorrow night.
Angel,
I also had blast in 2003 and I was fortunate enough to hear Last Mall
also. So that made a "lucky seven" for me: "Last Mall, Godwacker, Blues Beach, Slang of Ages, Things I Miss The Most, Lunch with Gina and Everything Must Go".
Ports & Gus,
I also had a great time at the Internet Request nights in LA, Chicago,
San Jose and San Fran in 2009. But I still don't understand why
we didn't get Bad Sneakers also? I think Bad Sneakers is also a prime
candidate for Rarities Night this year.
Bob In NYC,
"Walking Tour 2000 had some amazing chestnuts.........What A Shame About Me for one. Wish Fagen would tour solo so we could hear all that great solo stuff. Ditto for Walter too."
Couldn't agree more!!!! Fagen Solo 2006 was my favorite tour!
Wish there was a boot of the 2000 Albuquerque show. Never been
able to find one.
Jive,
Agreed. Still think EMG would have been spectacular in Bethlehem.
Date: Fri, August 12, 2011, 18:31:36 ET
Posted by: Ghia Girl, NJ
Just throwing it out there - my dream for rarities night would be Book of Liars from the Live in America CD. Just saying - this is one of my top 10 favorite songs of all time. "The worlds much larger than it looks today." Is there a more perfect life mantra?
Date: Fri, August 12, 2011, 18:00:30 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Princeton for now
Bob - I also would love to see them doing solo tours soon, but in lieu of that, wouldn't it be cool if they'd planned an SD night that was focused on Walt & Don solo numbers? I'd kill to hear this band do "Surf and/or Die" live, for one. I am holding out hope that they might be considering incorporating some of the solo pieces into the Rarities night set...a long shot, I know.
Little Wild One - You will be at Rarities night?
Date: Fri, August 12, 2011, 17:27:52 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, working to support my habit
Thank you, Bob and Angel. I would love to hear Blues Beach and The Last Mall, just to fill out my score card for EMG. I was in the audience in Camden when Pixeleen was played. And Scranton, too, although for some (liquid) reason, I don't remember it.
There is a funny story that Hoops used to tell about some poor Dan-atic who traveled all over New England to hear WOH in 2000...only to miss the one show when it was played. I confess, I would travel far and wide...oh, wait, I already do that.
I wonder if is way too much to hope that some 21st century Dan might be played at the Rarities show? I, for one, would love that just as much as the unreleased stuff of legend.
Date: Fri, August 12, 2011, 17:07:14 ET
Posted by: Bob, NYC
Almost Gothic was played just once in concert. New Mexico 2000.
I heard that they rehearsed it other times.
Walking Tour 2000 had some amazing chestnuts.........What A Shame About Me for one.
Date: Fri, August 12, 2011, 17:05:38 ET
Posted by: Bob, NYC
BTW: I think 2003 was really the last Steely Dan tour of the modern era. 2006 and on has been the post-modern Dan.
I wish Fagen would tour solo so we could hear all that great solo stuff.
Ditto for Walter too.
Date: Fri, August 12, 2011, 17:00:15 ET
Posted by: Bob, NYC
The Last Mall was also played in Vegas in 2003. The background images (remember when they had those?) used these green wireframe CAD models of suburban houses.
Date: Fri, August 12, 2011, 16:59:13 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
Pixeleen was played in Scranton in 2006 and a couple nights later in Camden
Almost Gothic is out there somewhere
Date: Fri, August 12, 2011, 16:55:24 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Regarding 21st Century Dan...
I heard Blues Beach at Paso Robles on the second night of the EMG Tour. Over the 3 dates I went that year, I heard a total of 6 tunes out of 9.
Godwacker, Blues Beach, Slang of Ages, Things I Miss The Most, Lunch with Gina, Everything Must Go.
As stated, Pixeleen was played in Camden. I wish I had heard that one.
I might be wrong, but I believe I heard that The Last Mall was played the first night in Orange County and never again.
That leaves Green Book.
Date: Fri, August 12, 2011, 16:24:10 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Exiting El Segundo Cubicle
Ports,
FWIW my guess is no, we won't hear Dr. Wu until rarities night, if then.
On a slightly related topic, I think that the other Aja nights this tour would be appropriate for "The Bear" to return to the setlist.
Date: Fri, August 12, 2011, 15:32:45 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis
With a new request nite this week, or should I say "By Popular Demand" does anyone think we will get Dr Wu again or could they be saving it for Rarities Nite. By my count they only played it four times in 2009 - Boston, Beacon, L.A. and Chicago (where I was lucky enough to be in attendence). Since it hasn't made it on the "By Popular Demand" nite yet could it be the end for Dr Wu?
I was very happy with the Request Nights in 2009, getting Dr Wu , Riki and Major Dude. None have made it on a set list this year...yet!
Date: Fri, August 12, 2011, 15:32:24 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF
Dylan,
quite a few have that reaction, I just happen to like Walter's singing. That night was enhanced by the marvelous backdrop of Clear Lake and Walter making positive remarks about nearby Humboldt county and it's fabulous greens - with that distinct aroma in the air everywhere..
Herington's drawn out solo on that tune to me was stunning too.
Date: Fri, August 12, 2011, 14:20:18 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
DollarBill, your post and a few previous posts have jogged my memory, and I think I do recall Pixeleen being played more than I give it credit for, especially in 2007 (the "forgotten tour," judging based on how well people remember the setlists, including myself).
Regarding what 21st century songs I'd like to hear the most (not that I'm going to the 21st century night, but I can dream, can't I?), assuming they'll play approximately 6 out of 18 possible songs, my top 6 would probably be Everything Must Go (likely), Almost Gothic (not likely), West of Hollywood (maybe), Two Against Nature (probable, I think), Lunch With Gina (maybe, and What A Shame About Me (not likely). Of course, I'd settle for anything, including Godwhacker (yeah I know this has become the post-2000 setlist staple, but the horn break in the middle and the melodica-guitar sequence at the end makes this a song also worth hearing). As far as the 21st century songs I'd least like to hear, I know I'm going to get killed for this, but they include Negative Girl, Green Book, Pixeleen, and Things I Miss the Most. Not that I don't like those songs, and like I said, I'll take any 21st century song at 21st century night... but I probably don't like those four songs as much as I like the other fourteen songs from Two Against Nature and Everything Must Go.
Of course, I'm almost inclined to put Morph the Cat as the best 21st century "Dan-esque" album, even above Two Against Nature and Everything Must Go. I would pay just to hear The Night Belongs to Mona live, and of course, I'd love to hear Great Pagoda of Funn, What I Do, and the title track as well.
Date: Fri, August 12, 2011, 10:09:30 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
Lutz of SF,I usually agree with you and value your opinion
however I thought Walters haitian divorce was dreadful!!!
Completely changed the song for the worse!! Admittedly I
dont care for Walters singing, but I thought he was good on gaucho!!!
just sayin?? Flame away everyone because we cant handle anybody
saying anything remotely negative!!!
Date: Thurs, August 11, 2011, 21:01:14 ET
Posted by: DollarBill, SE/Pa
Deacon 16,
Pixeleen played Camden Show 2006
Date: Thurs, August 11, 2011, 19:57:49 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
How could I forget? Walt and Keith Carlock paying homage to Wayne Shorter and Steve Gadd on Aja, carving out their own niche in SD history.
Date: Thurs, August 11, 2011, 19:43:17 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
Ray, Joan,
Don and Walt have really showcased the solo talents of the horn section this season. Roger Rosenberg, Walt Weiskopf, Michael Leonhart and Jim Pugh all got plenty of front & center, well developed solos on Dizzy's, Gold Teeth, 19, Black Cow, Show Biz, FM, Godwhacker, Dirty Work, Papa, and of course, Last Tango.
Superb chops, every one of them.
Date: Thurs, August 11, 2011, 19:31:28 ET
Posted by: As a Swede I'd rather smile than feel depressed in an Ingmar Bergman type of way, ... :)
Just now:
Listening to the first 34 seconds of What A Shame About Me is pure bliss! Now for the rest of that track!
(Thanks to all involved in the making of it. Hope to hear it live September 23!)
And a big thank you to all who chimed in regarding what 21st Century Dan songs that have been played live.
/PGE
Date: Thurs, August 11, 2011, 19:25:16 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Thanks for all of the timely reports
and setlist from Bethlehem. Gotta
think that EMG would have been
majestic in that setting though.
Looking forward to the reports
from Ravinia where for the first
time this tour during YGT there
will be a HUGE applause & cheers.
Sounds like fun, wish I could be there.
Chris in CT,
Welcome back snook'ems! We missed you.
Long Time - First Time,
I'm not the one who stirred the pot.
Date: Thurs, August 11, 2011, 18:59:14 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, back in Philly
Bethlehem: It's understandable to me (rather than perplexing) why Godwhacker, of all the 21C songs, gets especially heavy concert play -- in addition to being a kick-ass song with a killer bass line, it's a fabulous showcase for the horn section. I, for one, never get tired of hearing it live...
Date: Thurs, August 11, 2011, 18:41:54 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
Under the stars at Musikfest, amid the ghostly, hulking ruins of Bethlehem Steel, on the Sands Steel Stage:
Dizzy's Bidness
Your Gold Teeth
Aja
Black Friday
Hey 19
Black Cow
Time Out of Mind
Show Biz Kids
Bodhisattva
FM
Godwhacker
Dirty Work
Papa Don't Take No Mess - intros
Home at Last
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Reelin' In The Years
Kid Charlamagne - encore
Gato Barbieri's Theme from Last Tango in Paris - outro
This is my 9th show, the first being the Citizen SD tour, 9/1994 in Irvine CA. This is, without question, the funkiest, swinginest, baddest band they've ever tasken the stage with. Venue was nice, acoustics were superb.
My cousin Mike, who has seen hundreds of live bands over 40 years, as writer, agent, publicist, and critic, turned to me during the sublime Show Biz Kids, and said "My God, they're perfect". True that.
I'll be penning the review for NJ's Aquarian Weekly, attempting to condense 2 hours and 15 minutes of musical bliss into a mere 600 words.
One last observation (for now) - I've always maintained that as Don's pipes go, so goes Steely Dan. Not sure what vitamins he's been popping, or what good living he's engaged in, but the man was on fire last night. No more description necessary. See and hear for yourself.
Date: Thurs, August 11, 2011, 17:43:43 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
I think every song from Two Against Nature and Everything Must Go has been played at least once (counting the plush jazz-rock DVD), excluding Negative Girl and Green Book. As always, I could be wrong, and since I didn't attend any shows in 2000 or 2003, the validity of this post can certainly be called into question.
But the songs in terms of frequency can probably be divided into several tiers.
Most frequent: Godwhacker, Two Against Nature, Janie Runaway
Relatively frequent: Everything Must Go, Jack of Speed
Played frequently but only on their respective tours: West of Hollywood, Cousin Dupree, Things I Miss the Most, Slang of Ages
A bit less frequently: Gaslighting Abbie, Lunch with Gina, The Last Mall, Blues Beach
Fairly infrequently: What A Shame About Me, Almost Gothic, Pixeleen (has this one ever been played?)
Never been played as far as I know: Green Book, Negative Girl
Regardless of the accuracy of this post, keep in mind that they only have 18 songs to choose from for "21st Century Dan," not counting solo albums or unreleased material of course. So what does everyone think would be a fair number of 21st century songs for 21st Century Dan Night + The Royal Scam (another 9 songs) + selected hits (at least Josie, Peg, Hey Nineteen, Reelin' in the Years, and probably My Old School)?
Also, Caves of Altamira was played at least at some shows during the 2007 Heavy Rollers tour, in addition to its introduction in 2003 and the 2009 Royal Scam nights.
Date: Thurs, August 11, 2011, 16:35:41 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR
Pretty sure I heard "What a Shame About Me" in Toronto in 2003, and, God willing, looking forward to hearing it again on the 23rd! One of my very favorite new tracks.
3 or 4 songs from the new albums, plus RS? Plus Larry C? Sounds great. What would my new cuts be?
Gaslighting, Two Against, Lunch W/., Janie Runaway, What a Shame, West of Hollywood. WB on Slang! Hell, even the cheerfully nihilistic bounce of The Last Mall, a staple these days on Value Village radio. "Medicine for the blues."
Date: Thurs, August 11, 2011, 14:40:37 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF
Joan/Byron/LWO,
West of H was played frequently in 2000.
The only time I ever heard live of Abbie was on the plush dvd, would have loved to see/hear that on the Heavy Roller's tour.
For Green Book I would travelled far, but you may have hallucinated indeed - just like me when I seem to remember that blues beach was played in 03 as well in CA.
But Walter sang Haitian divorce that year and it was great!
Also Caves of A. was a frequent choice 2003 and has not been since exept on Scam night of course.
Date: Thurs, August 11, 2011, 14:17:24 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly
Unless this is past-tense wishful thinking messing with my memory (entirely possible), I believe that they also played "West of Hollywood" in Camden 2000.
Date: Thurs, August 11, 2011, 13:58:32 ET
Posted by: Byron, USA
I heard Gaslighting Abby on heavy rollers tour.
Date: Thurs, August 11, 2011, 10:49:55 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, 100 + land
Ok, I'll be brave and take the first cut, with the disclaimer that I may have missed a song or two from early in the 2000/2003 tour archives.
From 2VN, I know for certain that the title track, Janie Runaway, Jack of Speed and WOH have been played. Also possibly Cuz Dupree and I seem to recall Almost Gothic was tried once (in Phoenix--Lonnie?)
From EMG, I have heard The Things I Miss the Most, Godwhacker, Slang of Ages, Pixeleen, Lunch With Gina and EMG. I may have hallucinated hearing Green Book, so feel free to correct me.
I am so thrilled that we are going to meet some others from across the pond this trip! Hope to have some cool swaps to share.
Date: Thurs, August 11, 2011, 07:01:49 ET
Posted by: PGE, Hej Reidar!
I'll be on the lookout for those tshirts!
I was wondering if I should bring my viking helmet, but decided to give the stereotype look a pass.
As fara as the finale on the 23 goes the addition of The Royal Scam must cut into the numbers from originally advertised 21st Century Dan. And as it is the final Beacon show there might be room for more than 18 or so numbers. 20? 22?
So we get the whole of The Royal Scam feat Larry Carlton, 3-4 from Two Against Nature, 3-4 from Everything Must Go plus those selected hits, i.e. Hey Nineteen, Josie, My Old School etc
Could someone keeping tracks of these things tell me and others here on the Blue what songs from Two Against Nature and Everything Must Go have been performed live over the years?
And when it comes to Rarities night on the 17 steelydan.com says "The unreleased, the mythic, the reborn, the rarely-if-ever-heard; On this numinous Night of Nights, all will be revealed (along with additional selected favorites and hits)".
Even if you as a longtime fan long to hear all that bootlegged stuff that description leaves room for a whole lot of the previously played.
Those favorites and hits can easily make up one third of the evening. Add a couple of rarely played album tracks, one or two of the re-arranged familiar as well as The Bear and there's room for something like Wet Side Story or solo stuff or a couple of covers (Dirty Water, Rhymes) and it's thank you and goodnight.
Whatever happens I am sure it will be an interesting evening.
Date: Thurs, August 11, 2011, 02:25:19 ET
Posted by: Reidar (Radar), Norway
Just about a month to go before I leave Norway to go to New York City. My self made T-shirts (The Norwegian Shuffle Diplomacy Tour 2011) arrived in the post yesterday and they looked very nice indeed. I guess I'll be wearing them to some of the seven conserts. From reading others postings I'm really looking forward to the Beacon shows as the band seems to be in splendid condition. The place will not be overcrowded with Scandinavians, but a few of us will be there. I really hope we will manage to arrange a get-togther or two during the seven shows. I'm looking forward to meet up with fellow fans of Steely Dan in a months time.:-)))
Date: Thurs, August 11, 2011, 01:05:23 ET
Posted by: Bethlehem, Attendee
Back from Bethlehem. I chose this as my only concert this tour because I thought it looked to be something out of the ordinary. Got in early and went to the casino. I still wasn't sure where the venue was. I asked a supervisor who told me it was within walking distance. He was going to the concert himself and insisted that he had a bootleg from '83. Whatever.
Agree with Joan that it wasn't the most enthusiastic crowd. Probably because it was a lot locals who were more interested in attending Musikfest and SD just happened to be one of the bands playing. Walter's ramble talked about seeing a star in the sky. Maybe he read the Blue this morning. I'm perplexed that Godwhacker has become such a stalwart considering how sparsely they draw from post 2k material. That steel factory sure is spooky looking.
Date: Thurs, August 11, 2011, 00:27:13 ET
Posted by: Chris, CT
I've been a reader of this forum for years but have only posted a few times in the past. I really enjoy checking in on a daily basis, but this Lurker Ray guy is a total idiot. Please Hoops, shut him down!
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 23:39:02 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, still in Bethlehem
Longtime reader, I certainly agree that Steelydoc is a great guy. (I was one of the people w. Doc backstage after Borgata, however, I'm most definitely not a "hot babe"!) Didn't realize he wasn't on the Blue anymore...
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 23:29:01 ET
Posted by: SeSecurity Joan, BeF*ing Bethlehem, baby
Yet another great show! Band tight as can be -- Herington on fire -- and it was fun to meet Catherine Russell & Jim Beard for first time. Wonderful, crazy, dystopian environment, with the old steel mill behind the stage. Audience, from where I sat, could have been a little more enthusiastic - many seemed more interested in their curly fries & Miller Lite than the band, but, oh well. By the last three songs, everyone was on their feet, which made up for it...
Set list:
Dizzy's Bidness
Your Gold Teeth
Aja
Black Friday
Hey 19
Black Cow
Time Out of Mind
Show Biz Kids
Bodhisattva
FM
Godwhacker
Dirty Work
Papa Don't Mess + Intros
Home at Last
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Reelin'
Kid Charlemagne
Last Tango outro
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 21:51:38 ET
Posted by: long time reader, first time poster
To the Lurker
You do seem to stir things up. I see you got Steelydoc to drop off of the Blue. I actually met him backstage after the Borgata show. Very nice guy, was with some hot babes. Why you gotta stir it up, Ray?
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 20:23:11 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Putz, SF -
What we can't respond to personal
attacks now?
Go crawl back into your hole douche.
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 20:09:50 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF
Lurker Ray:
Go get some help or take your pills before you try to stink up things here again.
You are truly a first class jerk, actually make that a no class jerk.
Checking in here after a few days to get some good news about the tour and you ass make it about yourself again.
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 19:45:03 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Still By The Cement Pond
SteelyDan.com now confirming Larry Carlton
for 21 Century Dan night at the Beacon.
Wonder just how many and what 21 Century
songs they will do now?
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 19:05:18 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Podunk Hollow - By The Cement Pond
Selfish Gene,
So glad to see that you got your computer privileges back. How many times do I have to tell you to stop searching for the kiddie porn?
You're worse that Mr. Lapage. How do you think you got into this
trouble in the first place?
How are things in the dayroom these days? You guys must be pissed that they are canceling a bunch of those soaps or do you still call them, "You're Stories"? Ah, Juicey Fruit.....
But hey, I do stand by my opinion, so far this tour, ALL of Aja, EMG, YGT and The Bear. Can you name a better set list so far? So sorry you could not have joined us under the stars in LA. Like Donald loves to say, "What a night!"
So glad you enjoyed that CJB. It's my gift to all here, especially those who could not attend that amazing & historic night in LA, like
Selfish Gene. Maybe he too will one day enjoy The Bear. But I don't know, it's got to be hard for someone who at the age of 56 still lacks object permanence. You have to remeber he still "hears things", you know like, "when a tree falls in the woods and kills a bear taking a shit".
Great news about Larry Carlton if it's true. But what about the OTHER night they are playing Royal Scam now?
Thanks to the Claynation for the reports.
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 18:34:28 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR
I sure hope Ticketmaster has it wrong too, and that I'll be able to hear "What A Shame," "Lunch w/ Gina," etc. PLUS "The Royal Scam" PLUS selected favorites and hits on the 23rd. From 6th row center I'm sure I'll enjoy the show regardless, but I hope the boys won't neglect those of us showing up in NYC for both Rarities AND, hopefully, the New Stuff, too.
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 17:39:32 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, From Podunk Hollow
Finally, some freaking HUMOR around here. I think I laughed at three posts today (PGE, Selfish Gene and the no stars in Bethlehem poster), which is true a Rarity!
Prez Logic, my friend, you know what I have always said: SD shows are the best, but seeing them with those of your kind is priceless. Crossing my fingers, working weekends, clicking my heels and hoping to be in a NY state of mind same time, next month!
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 16:23:38 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Podunk Hollow
Ben,
Thanks for the link. Here's hoping that Ticketmaster got it wrong.
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 15:10:18 ET
Posted by: Ben, Indy
More about Larry C:
http://www.glidemagazine.com/hiddentrack/larry-carlton-to-augment-steely-dans-the-royal-scam-and-more-at-the-beacon/
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 12:30:11 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Chris NH: I will be there on the 17th. Looking forward to whatever they play.
In 2009 Gaucho night in LA was the BEST. Aja second. IMHO.
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 11:00:33 ET
Posted by: jeff, michigan
This show was a disappointment. The sound mix was not good. You have to just plain "not care" to have a bad sound mix at the Clay Center. It was a waste of my time and money. I had 3rd row seats but got up and left early. Next time I won't be fooled!
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 10:47:49 ET
Posted by: Michael,
Carl: "Mark my words, those two songs will probably be the ONLY two 'rarities' that they will play that night. You'll see."
I sure hope not. That would be a crime. The show is titled 'Rarities,' after all, and the main SD website describes it as including unreleased material (plus hits), so that would indicate songs like The Second Arrangement, Kulee Baba, The Bear, I Can't Write Home About You, and others. If they just performed YGT, Monkey, and a couple others which they've already rolled out at various times, it wouldn't be much of a rarities show.
Maybe they'll even perform the outtake rendition of I Got The News. That would be fantastic. We'll know come September 17th.
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 10:44:34 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
Dylnfan, I'm with you brother. Seeing a list of songs is miles away from seeing the music happen right in front of you.
I've hit up a show on every tour since 00, and every night I've had a pretty good idea of what I was going to see, song-wise, thanks to this site. In recent years, I've even heard a few shows start to finish and have even "spoiled" whatever new arrangements they've whipped for that tour. And I've never been disappointed. Sure, there are always songs I wish I had seen that maybe they played at Podunk Hallow the night before, but unless they play their entire catalog I'm never going to get EVERY song I want.
People are entitled to their opinions but complaining about a show you didn't attend based on something as binary as the number of songs played really doesn't make any sense to me.
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 10:41:23 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
Selfish Gene, although I am a proud member of team LURKER RAY
that was really funny!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 10:41:10 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
I think there are stars over every place on earth, all day and night.
But you probably can't see them at 8PM in August anywhere in PA (with the exception of the Planetarium, of course). But with any luck, there will be visible stars before the night is over.
I think Jive is fine on this one. He will be there at 8, and will (hopefully) be under the stars during the concert.
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 10:36:49 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
Concerning set-list gate, me-thinks its not that big of deal
although the set-list change greatly tour to tour, they barely
change at all during the tour, that is not a criticism its just
the way it works out!!! They get really f*ckn great at all the songs
for a given tour!! Change a couple here and there. Special nights
not withstanding. I think it all good. Flame away!!!
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 10:35:58 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
Hey all - just wanted to thank everyone for the kind words (and constructive criticism!) about my band's Black Cow cover. The vocalist is also the drummer, and he does a great job of letting his own style shine through, adjusting the phrasing here and there to best suit his voice.
So who's hitting up the Beacon for rarities night? I'll be there ...
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 08:57:13 ET
Posted by: RF, q
Jive,
There's no stars over PA at 8PM this time of year. Yes, even in Bethlehem.
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 07:42:51 ET
Posted by: PGE, @Carl, NJ: I'll make you eat your words!"
"Mark my words, those two songs will probably be the ONLY two "rarities" that they will play that night. You'll see."
Bah!
Let it hereby be known that I am busy transcribing Sail The Waterways and Dallas for ukulele. On the night I - and my trusted ukulele - plan to sidestep all guards, jump up on stage and with the help of my joyful playing and the element of surprise entice first Jon and the horn section to join in followed by the rest of the band.
See you at the show!
/PGE
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 07:38:52 ET
Posted by: Selfish Gene, The X-Roads
"And though I think the excitment [sic] of opening night in Seattle must of been amazing, I would have to nominate this years AJA night in LA as quickly entering my all-time top 5 set lists and as the high-water
mark so far this year." Lurker Ray
I've said it before and I'll say it again: If you want to be CERTAIN that you're going to see the best Steely Dan shows of ALL-TIME, just find out which shows El Ray will be attending. Although you'll never actually encounter him at a show, you'll definitely know he's there, as the boys always seem to work extra-hard when they know such a heavy roller is in their midst.
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 06:51:22 ET
Posted by: Carl, NJ
I noticed that when SD plays two shows in the same city they play Gold Teeth one night and sub it with Deacon Blues the next. Last night there was one show in WV and Gold Teeth wasn't in the set list! They have been playing it at every show up until now. This really sucks because that's one of the best SD songs played live that I've ever seen them do! Maybe they want to retire "Gold Teeth" and "You Got The Bear" until Sept 17 at the Beacon? Mark my words, those two songs will probably be the ONLY two "rarities" that they will play that night. You'll see.
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 00:32:43 ET
Posted by: prez logic, crw
Home at last from the show...I must say it was nice to drive just 12 miles for a SD concert...That being said I look forward to traveling to NYC in September...Oh, if memory serves the set list was pretty close to the following...
Dizzy's Bidness
Aja
Black Friday
Hey 19
Black Cow
Time out of Mind
Show Biz Kids
Monkey in your Soul
Bodhitsvatta
Papa Don't Take no Mess (intros)
Home at Last
Godwhacker
Dirty Work (gals featuring Cindy)
Peg
Josie
My Old School
Reeling in the Years
Kid Charlemene (encore)
Last Tango in Paris
Date: Wed, August 10, 2011, 00:04:37 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
bgirl, I'm with you on this one. Even if they played a 12 song setlist with an alternating Josie and Peg as the only songs, I still think I would enjoy it.
Nevertheless, I also obviously enjoy recording setlists for multiple reasons. In fact, it's more of a love-hate relationship with reading setlist reports, believe it or not. I think knowing what songs they play on a nightly basis is very interesting, but at the same time, it kind of hurts the potential element of surprise of going to a concert without having a prior idea of the setlist. Of course, it's clear to those who read my posts that my interest and thirst for setlist knowledge far outweighs the potential surprise.
Standard and Poor's: Technically, I believe my point still stands, as the times listed reflect a 10 minute difference rather than a 15 minute difference. So I should have said that sometimes 10 minutes feels like 15 minutes rather than 5 minutes can feel like 15 minutes, but it still illustrates that when people say something was "about" x minutes shorter/longer, it doesn't necessarily mean "exactly" x minutes shorter/longer. Although it's possible bookkeeper's son had a typo, and the sunday night show started at 8:35 as well, which would mean an exact 15 minute difference.
Lastly, thank you bookkeeper's son and lovethisgig for clearing up the confusion regarding the Atlanta shows' setlists for all of us "setlist junkies." Personally, I appreciate it very much.
Date: Tues, August 09, 2011, 23:18:13 ET
Posted by: bgirl, the woods
Aaaah grasshoppers...it is not what the band plays, the number of songs, or the length of the songs...it is HOW they are played that makes a great show. These musicians kick ass.
Date: Tues, August 09, 2011, 23:06:23 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
Wednesday, 8/10/11, Musikfest, Bethlehem PA, 8 sharp, under the stars, I will be there.
Full report to follow
Date: Tues, August 09, 2011, 20:06:31 ET
Posted by: Bob, NYC
Oh yeah, check http://larrycarlton.com/wordpress/?p=387
Date: Tues, August 09, 2011, 20:02:21 ET
Posted by: Bob, NYC
Was surfing around and saw that Larry Carlton will be a guest guitarist for Royal Scam night in NYC. That's September 23.
Cool!
Date: Tues, August 09, 2011, 17:05:05 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR
I Got The Bear. Thx LR!
Date: Tues, August 09, 2011, 16:25:17 ET
Posted by: Standard & Poor's, Waiting for Black Friday
DeaconBlues16 - Remind me to never ask you for any stock advice or legal councel for that matter. Bookkeepers Son - Nicely done. Do you do quarterly taxes? Because you can do my taxes any time.
Date: Tues, August 09, 2011, 14:53:37 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
lovethisgig,
Thanks for the correct Atlanta
set lists and for confirming that
there were in fact 21 songs
Saturday night and a shorter show
on Sunday with only 19 songs.
Bookkeepers Son,
Thanks for checking back in and for
confirming that "15 minutes" actually
felt like "15 minutes".
Updraught,
I don't follow? Cuz when I buy my
airline tickets "early" I get a
big price break. None of us got a
"break" when we bought our Beacon
tickets early. Though I do agree that
it looks like buying Beacon tickets the
day of show might be the best deal.
Which still rings wormy to me.
Enjoy the air conditioning tonight folks.
I know of very "hot" band that will! ;O)
Date: Tues, August 09, 2011, 13:44:52 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, all ears
...and thanks to Cerpin Taxt for putting us on the right track!
Date: Tues, August 09, 2011, 13:36:17 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Jazz,
Thanks. I see now how I missed it.
Date: Tues, August 09, 2011, 13:31:56 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, time machine
Re: 1980 interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMAR909RmOg&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
is part 2.
The uploader also provided more goodies, click the "26 Videos"-button next to his username on top of the Youtube page.
Date: Tues, August 09, 2011, 01:09:12 ET
Posted by: Cerpin Taxt, Boston
That recent link to a 2VN interview got me on a YouTube hunt for more. Not sure if this was posted before, but here's a Gaucho-era interview from a Robert Klein radio show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI4BpS_u0T0&feature=related
Cool stuff!
Date: Mon, August 08, 2011, 23:08:51 ET
Posted by: Bookkeepers Son, Atlanta
So here is what happened:
Saturday Steely Dan started at 8:35 and ended at 10:50. I looked at my watch!
Sunday Steely Dan started at 8:30 and ended at 10:35. Also Green Earrings was not played Sunday night.
Date: Mon, August 08, 2011, 23:08:46 ET
Posted by: Bookkeepers Son, Atlanta
So here is what happened:
Saturday Steely Dan started at 8:35 and ended at 10:50. I looked at my watch!
Sunday Steely Dan started at 8:30 and ended at 10:35. Also Green Earrings was not played Sunday night.
Date: Mon, August 08, 2011, 23:08:34 ET
Posted by: lovethisgig, Atlanta
Atlanta, Aug 6, Sat.
Dizzy�s Bidness (intro, band only)
Your Gold Teeth
Aja
Black Friday
Hey 19
Green Earrings
Time Out of Mind
Black Cow
Showbiz Kids
Bodhisattva
Babylon Sisters
Godwhacker
Home at Last
Dirty Work (The Embassy Brats feat. Catherine Russell)
Papa Don�t Take No Mess & band intros (Brats & Walter)
Josie (extended piano intro, Jim Beard)
Peg
My Old School
Reelin� in the Years
Kid Charlemagne (encore)
Last Tango in Paris (outro, band only)
Atlanta, Aug 7, Sun
Dizzy�s Bidness (intro, band only)
Aja
Black Friday
Hey 19
Black Cow
Time Out of Mind
Showbiz Kids
Bodhisattva
Deacon Blues
Godwhacker
Dirty Work (The Embassy Brats feat. Carolyn Leonhart-Escoffery)
Papa Don�t Take No Mess & band intros (Brats & Walter)
Do It Again
Josie (extended piano intro, Jim Beard)
Peg
My Old School
Reelin� in the Years
Kid Charlemagne (encore)
Last Tango in Paris (outro, band only)
Sunday deleted:
Your Gold Teeth
Green Earrings
Babylon Sisters
Home at Last
but added:
Deacon Blues
Do It Again
Date: Mon, August 08, 2011, 22:43:09 ET
Posted by: pf, NYC
Sun Aug 5 set list
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/steely-dan/2011/chastain-park-amphitheater-atlanta-ga-13d089f5.html
Date: Mon, August 08, 2011, 22:14:46 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Woah, hold on Lurker Ray. Gary from Atlanta said: "Set list for Sunday night's Atlanta show was basically the same, except Gold Teeth and Babylon Sisters were removed, and Deacon Blues and Do It Again were added. I thought Saturday night's show was the better of the two, and enjoyed Becker's Hey 19 bit better Sat. night, too."
Bookkeeper's Son wrote: "I was at both shows in Atlanta. Dirty Work and Deacon Blues were played Sunday but not Saturday. The show Sunday was about 15 minutes shorter than Saturday, probably due to the heat." And then he corrects that by stating: "Correction, Dirty Work was played both nights. Deacon Blues and Do It Again were played on Sunday, not Saturday."
Basically, these two statements corroborate each other. A show can be "basically the same," while also being "about fifteen minutes shorter," than the previous show, in my opinion. And I think the fifteen minutes thing was an estimation rather than an exact time. And really, unless you're timing something, do we really keep exact track of time? I can't speak for bookkeeper's son, but I think it's fair to suggest that sometimes 5 minutes can feel like 15 and vice-versa.
As for the setlist.fm discrepancy, there are 17 songs listed. Dizzy's Bidness isn't listed, and that was almost certainly played. That would bring the song count up to 18. Do It Again isn't listed, but two people here have reported it was played, bringing the count up to 19. Green Earrings isn't listed, and if the only changes between the two shows were truly Do It Again and Deacon Blues for Your Gold Teeth and Babylon Sisters, then Green Earrings should have been played, and that brings us to 20. Home At Last is in the same boat, and that brings the count to 21. So the question is, what does "basically the same" mean exactly? It's possible that the setlist got cut by two if Green Earrings and Home At Last weren't played (and that might be how the set was "about 15 minutes shorter"), but I'm sure there were at least 19 songs including the intro song, outro song, and band intro song. However, I'm going to stick to the idea that those two songs weren't cut, and 21 total songs were played. As I said before, it's a bit disappointing that people aren't posting exact setlists, but I can assure everyone who's interested in these things that I will post an exact and completely accurate setlist of the August 20th Tuscaloosa, AL show, barring some terrible unforeseen event.
Date: Mon, August 08, 2011, 22:11:08 ET
Posted by: Updraught, Philly area
The NY shows do not have to sell out. As the tickets are twice the price of the other venues, 1/2 house covers costs, the remainder is all profit. Smart!!
However, if there are unsold seats nearer to show time, prices will likely be adjusted to the level required to sell them. Sort of like airline tickets, cost depends on when you buy your ticket.
Date: Mon, August 08, 2011, 20:31:15 ET
Posted by: YOUR GOLD TEETH, $1725 Bucks an ounce today - up $75
Who cares? The real news is that yet another show in yet another Podunk
Hollow is SOLD OUT tomorrow night. Yet they can't still can't sell out even ONE show yet at The Beacon. How does yuz like dem Big Apples?!
Juz Sayin.
Date: Mon, August 08, 2011, 20:11:58 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Sunday Night's Show.....
Date: Mon, August 08, 2011, 20:07:58 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
So according to bookkeeper's son
Gary In Atlanta is wrong:
"Set list for Sunday night's Atlanta show was basically the same"
Now we hear that Atlanta's Saturday
night show was in fact 15 minutes shorter
than Saturday Night's show!
So how about it folks, does anyone
have a true and actual set list from
last night?!
And unless we hear different I consider
The Durham & Columbia set lists as true
and factual.
Date: Mon, August 08, 2011, 19:48:49 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
It seems that the setlist reports haven't been up to game this year.
But I'm surprised that they are playing shows of such different lengths. Some people got stuck with 15 Dan songs, while other lucky fellas are getting up to 18 of those greatest hits.
And do we have confirmation on the longer shows in Atlanta over the weekend? Right now it seems that Ray is leading the task force for accuracy in set list reports. God speed, sir.
Date: Mon, August 08, 2011, 19:23:16 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Lurker Ray, it looks like you are getting those setlists from the setlist.fm website. The Durham setlist as reported on there reveals further inconsistencies between setlist posts. We were told only that the Durham setlist was the same as the Columbia setlist, as you mentioned. But if we're to trust setlist.fm, then not only was Home At Last an additional song that was played, but also, they didn't play I Got the News, and they did play Monkey in Your Soul, which apparently was not played in Columbia. So who/what do we trust? While no one has any true responsibility to post a setlist, I must say that I'm a bit disappointed in the setlist postings or lack thereof for the past several shows.
Date: Mon, August 08, 2011, 18:19:38 ET
Posted by: bookkeepers son, atlanta
Correction, Dirty Work was played both nights. Deacon Blues and Do It Again were played on Sunday, not Saturday.
Date: Mon, August 08, 2011, 18:15:10 ET
Posted by: bookkeeper's son, Atlanta
I was at both shows in Atlanta. Dirty Work and Deacon Blues were played Sunday but not Saturday. The show Sunday was about 15 minutes shorter than Saturday, probably due to the heat.
Date: Mon, August 08, 2011, 17:41:49 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Gary, Atlanta,
Thanks for the report from Sunday night in Atlanta.
But how about a complete set list? There is another
site that is reporting that ONLY 17 songs were played
last night and Do It Again was not played! We trust
your memory a lot more than this other guy.
Well it looks like Durham was actually the
first place to get a 21 song set this tour:
Steely Dan Durham, NC August 4, 2011
1.Dizzy's Bidness
2.Your Gold Teeth
3.Aja
4.Black Friday
5.Hey Nineteen
6.Home At Last
7.Time Out Of Mind
8.Everything Must Go
9.Show Biz Kids
10.Bodhisattva
11.Monkey in Your Soul
12.Babylon Sisters
13.Godwhacker
14.Dirty Work
15.Papa Don't Take No Mess
16.Josie
17.Peg
18.My Old School
19.Reelin'In The Years
20.Kid Charlemagne
21.Last Tango in Paris
As you see below the Columbia, Maryland show
WAS NOT the same set list as reported by
Kyle76 from North Carolina. It clearly is not
the same as Maryland with one less song (No Home
At Last):
Steely Dan Columbia, Maryland August 4, 2011
1.Dizzy's Bidness
2.Your Gold Teeth
3.AJA
4.Black Friday
5.Hey 19
6.Everything Must Go
7.Time Out of Mind
8.I Got the News
9.Show Biz Kids
10.Bodhisattva
11.Babylon Sisters
12.Godwhacker
13.Dirty Work
14.Papa Don't Take No Mess (band introductions)
15.Josie
16.Peg
17.My Old School
18.Reeling in the Years
19.Kid Charlemagne
20.Last Tango
And so the reporting and set list problems continue.........
How can we bash the critics when we can't even get it right
or worse, we don't report in at all?
Date: Mon, August 08, 2011, 10:52:36 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
Jive Miguel I am also worried that his voice will be shot by the
time I see them in sept!!! And I agree with you about so goes
the show depneding on his voice, because all the shows I have seen
it is a given the band is always tight!!! But when his pipes are struggling, (see the beacon 2009 run) the back-up singers seem
to take over the vocals!!! Glad to hear his voice is in tip-top
shape so far!! I am done postin for the day, that is a promise
not a threat!!!PS: I already worship at the alter of a legend
who's voice is totally shot!! see my handle for a hint!!!
Date: Mon, August 08, 2011, 09:43:03 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
Young Wu are you cheating on the boys again by seeing Mr. Petty
on the side??? Just sayin??? Never let 2 great events back-back
diminsih one or the other, for example I am seeing Steely Dan
fri. sept 9th than going to psu v alabama sat the 10th!!!
done rambling incoherent thoughts!!
Date: Mon, August 08, 2011, 08:23:35 ET
Posted by: Gary, Atlanta
Set list for Sunday night's Atlanta show was basically the same, except Gold Teeth and Babylon Sisters were removed, and Deacon Blues and Do It Again were added. I thought Saturday night's show was the better of the two, and enjoyed Becker's Hey 19 bit better Sat. night, too.
Date: Mon, August 08, 2011, 06:10:01 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, must microwave something
PGE,
Thanks for the interview link. Nice one.
Somehow I think I may have heard it sometime in the past, but have no idea where and when.
Now it's saved to my collection for experimenting with the microwave later on. My external harddrives fits easily into the oven.
(This also saves my neighbour's puppy a whole lot of trouble.)
Date: Mon, August 08, 2011, 05:34:19 ET
Posted by: rosedarling,
Thanks for that link, PGE. I don't remember seeing that interview before. Added to my favorites.
Date: Sun, August 07, 2011, 19:41:45 ET
Posted by: PGE, Donld and Walter talking a mere 17 years ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdOHnPTi1Zg
Posted August 5 and well worth a listen. 22 minutes long:
Steely Dan 1994 - Album Network Tour Special - Interview
(Funny guys...!)
Date: Sun, August 07, 2011, 16:14:41 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Thanks for the corrected Atlanta
set list Brent.
Well Hotlanta did get something
extra special last night, it
was the longest set list so far
this tour at 21 songs -
Steely Dan Altlanta August 6, 2011
1.Dizzy's Bidness
2.Your Gold Teeth
3.Aja
4.Black Friday
5.Hey 19
6.Green Earrings
7.Time Out of Mind
8.Black Cow
9.Show Biz Kids
10.Bodhisattva
11.Babylon Sisters
12.Godwhacker
13.Home at Last
14.Dirty Work
15.Papa Don't Take No Mess (Band Intros)
16.Josie
17.Peg
18.My Old School
19.Reelin' In The Years
20.Kid Charlemagne
21.Last Tango
Date: Sun, August 07, 2011, 14:11:36 ET
Posted by: Elgin, Boston
Catherine Russell interviewed by Bill Lynch, Charleston (WVA) Gazette re upcoming Clay Center Aug 9 show, an inside view of touring w/The Dan:
http://wvgazette.com/Entertainment/201108031362
Date: Sun, August 07, 2011, 13:58:49 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, amp to 11
Hutch,
I've been watching 2ofus on Youtube several times. Their arrangements are VERY good!
And then there's J. Reichbart with a handful of solo fingerstyle jazz guitar versions. This is Kid C:
http://www.youtube.com/user/jreichbart#p/u/13/p-GumI-Kpxo
Good luck to you and your buddy with your project!
Last, let me quote Keith Richards who, when asked what it takes to make a good rock'n roll guitarist, answered:
- Five strings, three fingers and one asshole...
Date: Sun, August 07, 2011, 13:43:42 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH
@DeaconBlues16
as per your request...here is the setlist from Toledo 7-20-11 (I was in attendance)
1. Dizzy's Business
2. Aja
3. Black Friday
4. Hey 19
5. Your Gold Teeth
6. Time Out Of Mind
7. Show Biz Kids
8. Bodhisattva
9. Dirty Work (girls sing)
10. Home At Last
11. Neighbor's Daughter / Band Intro
12. Monkey In Your Soul (WB sings)
13. Josie
14. Peg
15. My Old School
16. Reelin' In The Years
17. e. Kid Charlemagne
Date: Sun, August 07, 2011, 13:12:48 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Jazzassin - Yes, we'll mix it up a bit with some expected tunes and some deeper cuts. Try to avoid playing Margaritaville at all costs!
Got some Beatles, Stones, Everly Bros., America, Dylan, Croce, Dave Mason, etc. on the potential set list. Should be fun...something different for me since I'm typically in a full electric band.
Don't know if you were on the Blue a year or so ago when some links were here to a group called 2ofus. Two Italian musicians who've worked up some outstanding arrangements of SD and DF songs. They've done quite a few of them as you will see. Here's their version of Black Cow...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUZEIDHmwO8
Check out New Frontier as well.
Date: Sun, August 07, 2011, 12:54:01 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston
Chris...very nice job. The voice is unique and different (in a good way), ala DF.
SJ - Thanks for the info on Riverside. I've never been to Milwaukee but if its half as much fun as Chicago, then I'll have a great time.
Date: Sun, August 07, 2011, 12:08:57 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Sunday Mood
@Chris,
I join The Dean, Augusta and Hutch on this one!
The few small details that still have to be worked a little at aren't even worth mentioning, as I know you are already fully aware of them yourself.
Good work!
I used to be one of two (sometimes three) guitar players in a rather informal "house orchestra" at a small club/restaurant in Oslo approximately ten years ago. We played every friday & saturday night for a couple of years - or should I say "they", because I couldn't always join in because of my job.
Anyway, we had some Dan songs on the repertoire. Me and the keyboard guy used to make some loose arrangements for them, and the immense pleasure of being able to make some fairly decent versions was my main reason for spending quite a lot of time doing it, tongue-in-cheek.
Our versions was for several reasons less similar to the original than yours, but were still pretty well recieved.
Interestingly, people that didn't know the originals at all, always responded surprisingly positive and often asked what great songs it was we played, and used to think they were much cooler than most of the other stuff we did, which was mostly a combination of well known '60s and '70s rock/pop ala Dylan, Neil Young, The Kinks, The Beatles and some typical vocal jazz standards like Someone To Watch Over Me, Bewitched Bothered & Bewildered, After You've Gone, etc.
Those who knew the SD stuff better, parted into two camps: Those who appreciated our attempt at making alternative versions, and those who always liked to tell us we played them wrongly...
Date: Sun, August 07, 2011, 10:55:12 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Chris - Very good job on Black Cow. Interesting that I saw your version on the Blue this morning after I was up working on that very tune till the wee hours last night. A good friend of mine and I are putting together an acoustic guitar duo and BC is one of the first songs we're working out.
Of course I almost always rely on our friend Howard Wright for good charts.
http://www.hakwright.co.uk/music/tab/black_cow.txt
Keep up the good work Chris.
Date: Sun, August 07, 2011, 07:35:37 ET
Posted by: the bullgoose, sweet home bonalbo, Australia
Ahoy SS, Eyes and Oars of The Earient.
That ranger bite me sorely pissed;he could do with a good tot of pea. Some friends of mine, Stanley Deal and Puckless Le'destrian were going to set up a temporary street restaurant in HK. They were going to call it Ad Hoc Choy. It was fumed to dahlia. Now we bade to flack.
Date: Sun, August 07, 2011, 01:45:46 ET
Posted by: SS, Hk
And a spoonerizing shout out to you BG. The ranger on the docks is surely past.
Date: Sun, August 07, 2011, 01:03:50 ET
Posted by: the bullgoose, sweet home bonalbo, Australia
Well ok, Greg M. As Delmar said when Pete never did get turned into a toad, 'Well that was our mistake.'
Date: Sun, August 07, 2011, 00:55:37 ET
Posted by: Brent, Florida
Oops, they did play Reelin, before Kid C. Enjoy the shows, everyone. Fantastic band and arrangements.
Date: Sun, August 07, 2011, 00:09:36 ET
Posted by: SS, HK
Actually Greg, that's what I thought you meant when i read your comments.
I would have been happier had Ted Baker not re-invented the start of Josie as he did circa 2000. It's a taste thing for sure. For me, it did not fit with 'SD cool.' I thought it was overdone.
Date: Sun, August 07, 2011, 00:07:50 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Thanks for the Atlanta setlist. Pretty similar to the previous setlist, except Green Earrings instead of Everything Must Go, Black Cow instead of I Got the News, and the addition of Home At Last, but with the big surprise of taking away Reelin' in the Years, apparently.
Does anyone have setlists to the July 20th Toledo show, and the August 1st Portsmouth show? I know people here attended those shows, as I recall discussion of them, but I don't think I saw any official setlists from them.
Thanks for posting the July 29th setlist Lurker Ray. As for my mention of the Boston Aja Night in July of 2009, I don't know if it's my favorite setlist of all time; I might've said that but I don't remember if I did. Of course, it very well could be my favorite even if I didn't say that, but I know for sure that I said it was probably their "coolest" setlist ever. I mean, on their first ever album night, when the novelty is still there, they play two albums when they're supposed to play one, and perform a five song encore with a couple of relatively rare gems in there. I just think that's really, really cool.
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 23:25:05 ET
Posted by: Brent, Florida
Great show in Atlanta tonight!
Dizzy's
Your Gold Teeth
Aja
Black Friday
Hey 19
Green Earrings
Time Out of Mind
Black Cow (super excited to see this one!)
Show Biz Kids (nice funky arrangement)
Bodhisattva
Babylon Sisters
Godwhacker
Home at Last
Dirty Work
Papa Don't Take No Mess
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Kid Charlemagne
Instrumental Outro (Last Tango?)
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 22:14:42 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains, NY
<< "Hey I can't agree with the description of Donald's reharmonisations as 'clunky'. Alive in America's changes for RITY are just lovely, and, for me, the substitutions for the reborn Dirty Work shift up the deliquescence factor and add piquancy." >>
I wasn't refering to the re-arrangements of the tunes, which i tend to enjoy. Just the extended rhodes-only free-form intros that donald does that, to me, are clunky at times. Jim Beard's and Ted Baker's are sublime.
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 22:12:59 ET
Posted by: Augusta, DC Native
Chris nh - job well done. Impressive for 4 piece band. Thanks for sharing.
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 22:12:51 ET
Posted by: Augusta, DC Native
Chris nh - job well done. Impressive for 4 piece band. Thanks for sharing.
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 21:47:48 ET
Posted by: SS, HK
I'm never unhappy about a reharmonization in a live performance of an SD song. The changes always sound to me like an extension of the original thought or at the least...a welcome alternative that does not detract from the original.
RITY might be a special case because it is so thoroughly re-worked. What I like about it is that it has a whole other harmonic approach that is edgier and still very SD. I also liked the changes in Rikki on the 1996 tour.
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 21:04:46 ET
Posted by: the bullgoose, sweet home bonalbo, Australia
Bullgoose here.
Hey I can't agree with the description of Donald's reharmonisations as 'clunky'. Alive in America's changes for RITY are just lovely, and, for me, the substitutions for the reborn Dirty Work shift up the deliquescence factor and add piquancy. As a mate says,'some people think that Ellington turnarounds are the only turnarounds- it doesn't have to be that way'.
Speaking of Alive in America, Bruce Hornsby's latest, Bride of the Noisemakers, besides being a triumph is also quite Dangential. Sonny Emory, who did some drumming for Morph The Cat, stirs up the situation like a honey-dipped foot on an ant nest, the cover artwork and title remind one of Alive in America and the reharmonisations are certainly toothsome. Huge sound for a small band, audacious combinations, segues and juxtapositions, and there's fun going on everywhere. Hornsby is a bold, bold musician: an American original at his peak and still climbing.
Anyone know who Steve Winwood is bringing to Australia?
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 18:40:38 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Chris, that's a very creditable version of Black Cow. Four a four piece band it is very nice. I like the lead vocals, too (which is unusual for a cover band). The only real clunker IMO is the high harmony ("one of these" for example). I think it would sound better w\o that. Bravo!
While I have never been to the Riverside Theater, I love Milwaukee. It's a terrific drinking town. Reminds me a bit of Buffalo but with a better economy (and a bit cleaner). Very friendly locals, too.
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 18:13:37 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly
Hey HouDanFan,
I'm also going to the Milwaukee show, and looking forward to it. I saw the Dukes of September show there last year and was impressed by this venue. Very good sound quality, lovely physical setting (there doesn't appear to be a bad seat in the house), and it's conveniently located downtown. Highly recommend it!!
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 17:57:06 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
Hey all - some shameless self pomotion here, so scroll past if that sort of thing bothers you.
Just wanted to share a recording I did with some friends of mine of Black Cow. It was a quick and dirty live demo, there are a couple regrettable clams (especially in the keys solo, which I transcribed an hour or so before the session ... ah well) but overall I'm pretty proud of it. As a four piece we had to strip it down quite a bit but we tried to stay pretty faithful to the original.
http://growlers.bandcamp.com/track/black-cow-steely-dan
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 17:27:19 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Jon Herington Band
Olde Mistick Village Arts Cinemas
Mystic CT
July 28, 2011
Baby What You Want Me to Do
Time on My Hands
Work Work Work
I'll Fix Your Wagon
Turn Time Around
Sweet Ginny Rose
Egirl
Dreaming
Thirteen Feet of Rain
It Hurts Me Too
Beautiful Girl
I Ain't Got You
Black Friday#*
Chain Lightning#
Fabulous
She Reminded Me of You*@
Caroline Yes
Encore:
24. Neighbor's Daughter
The Band:
Jon Herington - guitar, vocals
Dennis Espantman - bass
Keith Carlock - drums
Rob Morsberger - keyboard
# w/Catherine Russell - vocals
* w/Jim Beard - keyboard
@ w/Rob Morsberger - accordion
"This weekend not only featured the jazz stylings of Steely Dan but we, here in our small hamlet of Mystic, were treated to a preview of sorts by the Jon Herington Band! The band not only featured Steely Dan's premier guitarist (after Becker I suppose), but also SD's phenomenal drummer Keith Carlock. The show opened with a brief set by keyboardist Rob Morsberger with very melodic and witty compositions. He was joined by JH and company for a rockin' good time with a mixture of originals and covers. Being the night before the Steely Dan show at Foxwoods, we had high hopes that perhaps they would pull out a couple SD covers. Our patience was rewarded with not only a couple of covers but a couple of special guests from the band, namely keyboardist Jim Beard and backing vocalist Catherine Russell performing beautiful renditions of Black Friday and Chain Lightening. This evening was a terrific primer for the night to follow."
-Ring
Rob Morsberger set:
Intro
Relativity Blue
Christina In Your Salon
The Chronicle of a Literal Man
Old Jolly Farm
A Man of Much Merritt - w/ Jon Herington on harmony, last verse
* w/Jim Beard - keyboard
@ w/Rob Morsberger - accordion
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 16:48:47 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Well it looks like the Foxwoods reviewer
actually "did" go to the show! They in
fcat did play almost all of AJA except
for I Got The News.
Pretty nice setlist for a casino show:
Steely Dan Foxwoods July 29, 2011
Dizzy's Bidness - Intro
Aja
Black Friday
Hey Nineteen
Black Cow
Time Out of Mind
Show Biz Kids
Bodhisattva
Deacon Blues
Godwhacker
Dirty Work
Papa Don’t Take No Mess (Band intros)
Home At Last
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Reelin' in the Years
Encore:
Kid Charlemagne
Last Tango In Paris - Outro
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 15:54:18 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
I'd have to agree with suedave about Bill Ware's vibes on the 1994 tour. If there is one instrument I would love to see added to the current band it would be a vibe player. So glad to hear and see that suedave is enjoying this years YGT as much as I am. But man just think if it had vibes!
I know earlier DB16 had posted that the 2009 Aja/Royal Scam Boston show was his favorite set list ever. And though that set list is in my top 5, listening back it was the first time they attempted to play complete LPs and I just don't think the band was as tight as they are this year.
And though I think the excitment of opening night in Seattle must of been amazing, I would have to nominate this years AJA night in LA
as quickly entering my all-time top 5 set lists and as the high-water
mark so far this year:
Greek LA 2011
Dizzy's Bidness
Black Cow
Aja
Deacon Blues
Peg
Home at Last
I Got the News
Josie
Your Gold Teeth
Hey Nineteen
Everything Must Go
Time Out of Mind
Godwhacker
Show Biz Kids
Neighbor's Daughter (Band Intros)
You Got The Bear
Reelin' in the Years
Bodhisattva
Kid Charlemagne
Last Tango In Paris
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 14:38:00 ET
Posted by: suedave, clouds again
I feel lucky that I attended opening night, hearing probably one of the best set list's ever performed, to a band performing live after a long hiatus, on a rare sunny day in Seattle.
I could probably play the live version of YGT from this years tour every waking hour for the rest of my life and be excited every time I hear it. What a great rendition of that wonderful song.
I compared this years sound to my previously favorite recording from a 1994 show. This band totally blows 1994 band away, and 1994 was incredible (loved the addition of the vibes). Donald's voice is much stronger/better and confident, the band is tighter and confident, and their experience shows - there's more definition to the songs especially the endings.
I'd love to see SD release a live CD from this tour - A Decade of Playing the Hits - Live Steely Dan, old and new favorites (with unreleased material!):
YGT
The Bear
EMG
Show Biz Kids (the way it should always be played is from this tour)
Godwhacker
Monkey (Walter, of course)
Peg
Reeling in the Years
Bodhisattva
Do it Again
Kid C
Home at Last with the new ending
Green Earrings with the ending from Donald's solo tour in 2006
Deacon Blues
The remainder, to be added as the tour goes forward (request for Jack of Speed)
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 12:37:08 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, should really quit reading reviews and watching Youtube clips. The world is sad enough as it is.
@kzkzkz,
What surprises me is that they don't have better recording equipment in 20011...
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 12:32:35 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston
Since my favorite band isn't coming through Houston, I'm planning a road trip with some baseball and Dan. I don't want an outdoor venue and Riverside Theater in Milwaukee looks impressive. Can anyone give me a lowdown on the venue (sound quality, etc) and its location.
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 11:47:33 ET
Posted by: P. Cruzer,
Thank You Jazzassin for the info!
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 10:47:55 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, the future
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl7gSzGRx1Q
The Donald and Co. look & sound great for being 18,000 years old!
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 09:17:52 ET
Posted by: Flipkid, Blue State
Thanks for the link to the Baltimore City Paper review, DeaconBlues. I think maybe that reviewer "gets" SD a little more than The Sun's reviewer. At any rate, it was a great show.
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 08:23:20 ET
Posted by: Ghia Girl, NJ
Attending the Bethlehem, PA show on the 10th. I am not from the area but was looking on line for a place that like minded Danheads can meet. Starter's is a pub setting close to the venue. I will be there around 6. Look for the woman with the Steely Dan purse.
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 00:32:37 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
Augusta,
I'm in Herndon, work in Tysons.
Fantastic that you got to see your first SD show. What I love about this band is that unlike some of the 70's bands that rely on nostalgia as their skills fade, creating a sort of feel-good revival atmosphere, SD and their funked up arrangements remain 2011 (and beyond) ESSENTIAL.
I've been to several shows - 2 in Irvine CA, 2 at the Borgata (world-class acoustics), the Fagen Morph tour in DC, '06, 2009 at DAR Constitution Hall, and NY's Beacon Theatre (silver pony tails and smokin' hot young women, wildly enthusiastic crowds).
They never, ever disappoint. Been a fan for nearly 40 years, ever since hearing Do it Again on my transistor radio, and wondering why it sounded so different and compelling compared to everything else on the dial. Still a healthy obsession.
Cheers
Date: Sat, August 06, 2011, 00:10:18 ET
Posted by: Augusta, DC Native
Thanks, DeaconBlues16. The review you posted the link to jives with my experience of that awesome concert on August 2.
Jive Miguel - I live in Arlington, VA, probably not far from you. The Columbia, MD venue (Merriweather Post Pavilion) is outdoors. Reserved seating covered by tent with fans and lawn seating (too bad if it rains) is less $$. The sound Tuesday from my vantage point--reserved seating but not real close to stage--was good. I could pick up what the individual band members were playing and there was no distortion. From my perspective the acoustics were fine.
Qualifiers � my first Steely Dan concert ever and my second venture to Columbia MD venue in 30 years!
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 23:51:51 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
Augusta,
That is great to know. I'm a pretty damn good singer, and enjoy the occasional foray into karaoke. Attempting to deal with Don's range and ACCURACY/PITCH on SD songs a level of skill that I simply cannot master.
I live in VA (not Bogata, of course). How is the Columbia, MD venue? Gotta have clean acoustics for a SD show.
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 23:49:55 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Here's a better, or at least more positive review of that same concert: http://blogs.citypaper.com/noise/index.php/2011/08/steely-dan-brings-the-show-biz-kids-to-merriweather-post-pavilion/
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 23:21:26 ET
Posted by: Augusta, DC Native
Jive Miguel, do not worry. DFs voice was amazing on August 2. I mean amazing. The guy is so intense. His voice was not at all fragile. Strong and perfectly on key. Great you were able to obtain tickets for PA on the 10th. Enjoy the show and we await your report!
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 23:12:12 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
By sheer stroke of good fortune, we scored 2 seats to August 10 Musikfest in Bethlehem, PA, set among the Iron Age remnants of Bethlehem Steel. Indeed, a fitting backdrop. Seems like EMG would be a fitting addition to the set list.
Watching the clips of varying quality on You Tube, it is clear that this band is in peak form, bringing it every single night. Edgy, aggressive, and supremely confident.
My one concern prior to and during every SD tour is the condition of Donald's enduring, yet fragile pipes. I saw him struggle with a persistent cold during the 2009 tour, and wondered how many more of these marathons that amazing voice could endure. Perhaps the 1 year hiatus was precisely the rest he needed, because he is absolutely nailing the vocals this season. As far as I'm concerned, as Don's pipes go, so goes Steely Dan.
A full report will be forthcoming.
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 22:47:51 ET
Posted by: Augusta, DC Native
I am not an English or Journalism major and am 50+, but many of the SD tour reviews I've read so far seem poorly written and factually inaccurate. Security Joan � I have a feeling you would do an awesome job doing these reviews.
In my fantasy life, I would attend all SD concerts and review them!
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 22:34:17 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, throwing up my hands
..That said, just realized that said reviewer, like so many others, misspelled FAGEN's name!!! I'm sorry, but that's utterly unacceptable. Almost as bad as referring to Steely Dan as "him."
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 22:20:26 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly
Augusta, I totally, utterly agree with your take on that reviewer's treatment of Walter... of course, WB seems to be having issues with his leg and/or back (I've been in that position myself in my post-50s years), but leaning on a stool at times certainly hasn't lessened his performance in any way!!
That said, I;m thinking the reviewer was taking pains to appear objective and journalistic, and maybe that's why he peppered his review w. some irrelevant (to the musical performance) observations, like the Walter-leaning issue, and the snarky interpretation of Walter's commentaries. Personally, I think writers should't have to justify a positive slant, but I know they tend to feel pressure from the higher-ups...and reading between the lines, I wonder if this was the case here.
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 21:56:03 ET
Posted by: Augusta, DC Native
Flipkid, thanks for giving the link to the Baltimore Sun review of Tuesday�s Columbia, MD concert (Merriweather Post Pavilion, an outdoor venue). The reviewer was hard on Walter and I respectfully disagree with him.
Just my opinion, but it seems to me that Walter's personality and stage presence is laid-back, witty, and soulful. He does not come across as an intense showman or guitar virtuoso. That is just fine, because Jon Herington is a virtuoso. The two complement each other. It's not a competition. Similarly, I remember Donald saying in an interview something to the effect that some of his fingers just can't handle certain piano chords. But nobody in their right mind would doubt his extreme talent and it makes no sense to compare his keyboard dexterity to Jim Beard's.
Having said this, I still wonder whether Walter is having issues with his back and needs to use that stool somewhat during the concerts. If that is the case, then he deserves extra props for the fine work he did Tuesday night.
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 21:34:38 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
Also... Donald was pretty upbeat and energetic with the crowd. My brother loved the fact that he screamed "The Embassy Brats!" three times. He's been repeating ever since. Yay me!
And of course Ghia Girl dancing through Peg was a highlight. She moves in mysterious ways, baby.
Would love to see them again this summer, alas... I don't see it happening.
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 21:23:45 ET
Posted by: Augusta, DC Native
Some notes I wanted to post earlier, but couldn't. I sent an e-mail to someone on Bluebook who attended the Columbia, MD concert because I was on a natural high and just had to share a few observations about Tuesday night's concert.
Reeling in the Years was an audience favorite. Nice to see WB chat with the audience and say something to the effect of "I love you all" at the end when we were all clapping rhythmically for an encore. Also to experience his bluesy, laid-back and soulful guitar style. DF was slamming and sweating (it was hot and humid in the outdoor venue) and really into it. His voice was incredible and it was cool to see him pound the keyboards and actually hear it. All the band members were outstanding. The three back-up vocalists have their own distinct style and are immensely talented. All of them showed their stuff; perhaps Carolyn got a bit more parts, but they were all extraordinary. Horn section amazed. I cannot fathom how Keith Carlock can do what he does for 2+ hours. Astounding. Herington is a virtuoso. Now I get it why WB/DF are sticking with this crew.
And thanks, a muso and Greg M for your comments on "reharmonizing." Jim Beard was really impressive Tuesday night.
MastaPFav (can I say name?) posted three of the songs from that concert on YouTube. Visuals not so good, but sound quality not bad at all. The titles are not consistent--that's why I give the poster name.
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 21:15:03 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
Anyone got a setlist from the 4th?
Also, I wrote a fairly "meh" mini review of my Steely Dan show a couple weeks ago. It may have been because I was too consumed with excitement over the next show by someone else I was seeing 24 hours later.
Looking back, these were great songs:
- Aja, purely because of those horns and Keith's superpowers on the skins
- Your Gold Teeth
- A killer Bodhisattva
- An a-fucking-mazing Time Out of Mind
- A funked up Showbiz Kids. Probably my favorite of the 3 times seeing it
- Godwhackers coming back (although I would have loved to hear Home at Last again)
- Walt's great Monkey in Your Soul
- The one-two punch of My Old School and Reelin' in the Years
- Pretzel Logic was just insanely perfect. One of my biggest wants in a Steely Dan concert ever. It's my little brother's favorite song of all time, so I was going nuts when they played it.
The rest of the greatest hits weren't bad, but they were just nothing special.
So overall, probably 3rd out of my 5 Dan concerts. In retrospect, not as bad as I first described it. I apologize for the whining.
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 19:47:50 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, on the floor
It's like this, just viewed that link. Thank you, thank you for sharing -- it's priceless!!!
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 18:31:41 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Caveman
First:
All credits for the work of collecting the info that makes up the detailed Scam creds should really go to Joseph G. Murtha.
He's the one who did it. I just copy/pasted it from his list.
Dean, no, no guitar on Caves... Kidding ;)
Seems like even Joe has missed out on that one.
My guess is it's either Walt or Dean Parks, preferably the latter.
Of course, I can't guarantee that everthing is correct in that list, but it sure looks like something I can believe.
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 18:21:22 ET
Posted by: hoops,
First things first...
Dean...I'm glad to hear you are doing better...although I'm not sure the Blue is always low-stess for some one with cardio-vascular issues. Here's to your health improving and stabilizing...
And Dean, Doc, LR, etc..
P L E A S E . . .
I"m not singling out you for not mentioning or having an inquisition...quite the opposite. You 3-4 always let me know and I thank you for that Simply, there were at least a couple of hundred views of the Blue yesterday...surprised no one said anything.
Best wishes,
Jim
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 18:06:30 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Jazzassin,
Nice work on the Scam credits. But I have one question: No guitar at all on Caves?
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 18:04:31 ET
Posted by: Flipkid, Blue State
The "official" review of Tuesday's SD show in Coumbia, MD from the Baltimore Sun: http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/music/midnight-sun-blog/bal-review-steely-dan-at-merriweather-post-pavilion-august-2-20110803,0,5991860.story
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 17:24:49 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Full Scam creds
@P. Cruzer:
Kid Charlemagne:
Drums: Bernard Purdie
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitar: Larry Carlton
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Clavinet: Paul Griffin
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Michael McDonald, Venetta Fields, Clydie King,
Sherlie Matthews
Caves of Altamira:
Drums: Bernard Purdie
Bass: Walter Becker
Piano: Donald Fagen
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Trumpet: Chuck Findley, Bob Findley
Trombone: Slyde Hyde
Sax: Plas Johnson, Jim Horn
Solo Sax: John Klemmer
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Timothy B. Schmitt
Don't Take Me Alive:
Drums: Rick Marotta
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Larry Carlton (solo)
Dean Parks (rhythm)
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Timothy B. Schmitt
Sign In Stranger:
Drums: Bernard Purdie
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Elliot Randall, Walter Becker, Denny Dias
Piano: Paul Griffin
Trumpet: Chuck Findley, Bob Findley
Trombone: Slyde Hyde
Sax: Plas Johnson
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Timothy B. Schmitt
The Fez:
Drums: Bernard Purdie
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitar: Larry Carlton
Piano: Victor Feldman
Organ: Paul Griffin
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Trumpet: Chuck Findley, Bob Findley
Trombone: Slyde Hyde
Sax: Plas Johnson, Ernie Watts
Percussion: Victor Feldman (maracas)
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Tim Schmitt, Michael McDonald
Green Earrings:
Drums: Bernard Purdie
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Elliott Randall
Larry Carlton
Denny Dias 1st solo
Elliott Randall 2nd solo
Clavinet: Paul Griffin
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Percussion: Victor Feldman (tambourine, triangle, maracas)
Backup Vocals: Donald Fagen, Tim Schmitt
Haitian Divorce:
Drums: Bernard Purdie
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Dean Parks (solo)
Walter Becker (solo talk box)
Larry Carlton (rhythm)
Piano: Donald Fagen
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Sax: Jim Horn, Plas Johnson
Backup Vocals: Venetta Fields, Clydie King, Sherlie Matthews
Everything You Did:
Drums: Rick Marotta
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitars: Larry Carlton (solo), Walter Becker
Piano: Donald Fagen
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Organ: Paul Griffin
Backup Vocals: Donald Fagen, Tim Schmitt, Michael McDonald
The Royal Scam:
Drums: Bernard Purdie
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitar: Larry Carlton
Piano: Donald Fagen
Organ: Paul Griffin
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Percussion: Victor Feldman
Trumpets: Chuck Findley, Bob Findley
Trombone: Slyde Hyde
Sax: Jim Horn, Plas Johnson
Backup Vocals: Venetta Fields, Clydie King, Sherlie Matthews
Exactly how things were and were not regarding the brilliant talk box solo on HD has been discussed in the past, but I think it's more or less consensus that Parks recorded the original solo, and Walt either added the effect in the mix OR re-recorded/overdubbed Parks' solo using the effect in real-time.
To be honest, I still don't know for sure. Great it sounds, anyway!
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 17:03:26 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Hoops,
I think many of us thought you had
pressing family matters to deal with.
Dean,
So glad to hear that you are out of
the hospital.
Looking foward to the reports from
Hotlanta this weekend. Gotta think
they might do something special
since it's two nights, like perhaps
playing all of Aja one of the nights.
Still trying to track down a Foxwoods
set list. The Blue being down for a few
days notwithstanding, the reporting and
set lists have been very slow to non
existent this past eastern seaboard swing.
Let's get with the program folks!
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 16:54:34 ET
Posted by: P. Kruzer,
Hello Danites:
Could someone please post the track-by-track musician credits from The Royal Scam?
(I think someone had done it before sometime ago.)
I would appreciate it very much. Thank you.:)
Pete Kruzer
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 16:47:24 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Three versus Nature. At least.
Re: 2VN live
I agree it's a killer live song.
I'm certainly no drummer, but have played enough guitar in amateur bands to make the assumption that 2VN is a pretty tricky song to play good - despite it's seemingly simple structure compared to many other Dan songs.
Keith Carlock in particular, has to deal with a quite odd rhythmic pattern that easily will sound just really corny if not executed with an extreme degree of accuracy and the right timing on a micro level.
Luckily, he's Keith Carlock. Damned monster player, that boy.
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 15:57:04 ET
Posted by: The Dean, No Happy Hour Today
Steelydon, I agree 2vN is a GREAT live song. But despite the fact that the album went double platinum and won the Grammy, I don't think many of the fans at the concert are familiar with it. Still I think the energy in that song should grab anyone with a soul.
Thanks to those who have expressed concern re: my health. Just so you know, the test revealed my heart is just fine. Maybe a small blockage in a renal artery that will have to be dealt with, but nothing bad in the heart. So (in a lame attempt to make this Dangential) I will continue to turn that heartbeat over again.
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 15:44:19 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Dean:
Take good care of yourself and hope that all is well.
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 15:23:25 ET
Posted by: Kyle76, North Carolina
Caught the Durham show last night. Setlist was the same as Columbia, MD, show previously posted. Donald and Walter seemed to be in great spirits, and the show was perhaps a little livelier than the previous tour. Keith Carlock was showing some serious chops. They seem to be featuring him more than previously, and the horns also got a lot of face time. I've read some of the comments regarding the sound, and I had a similar experience, but perhaps it was because we were so close to the stage (fourth row) and inside the ideal projection area for the house speakers. There was also some kind of bass feedback or speaker problem going on at several points in the show, but it was brief. Also, is there anything sexier than Carolyn tossing her head as she sways to the music? Unfortunately, she was kind of behind Donald from my vantage point. I was disappointed the girls didn't trade verses on "Dirty Work" as they have done in the past.
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 14:22:13 ET
Posted by: DYLNFAN, HARRISBURG,PA
I heard rumors it was taken down because brain-strainer was making
a comeback, here is hoping he had an aneurysm!!!
Just kidding folks, that said wasnt a big fan!!
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 14:03:59 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Door Number Two
Ah! Glad we're back on here.
Sorry Hoops, for the late notification. I won't hesitate next time, should similar problems ever occur again.
Dean, I wish you a quick & full recovery after your heart surgery! Those of us still having a heart really need to keep it in good form.
Re: Reharmonizing
Greg M wrote:
"Ted Baker was very good at it as well. See Josie, 2VN tour. (anything else with him?)"
When they played in Oslo, Norway in 2000 (2VN), Don was quite talkative, and during his couple of "speeches", Ted played some classical music on the grand piano in the background; renditions of Grieg compositions. (Norwegian composer Edvard Grieg, 1843-1907)
Judging by what I heard, Ted Baker could easily have made a living as a top level classical concert pianist.
Re: Bad sound at Portsmouth
Is it really possible that SD relies on a local in-house sound engineer for any of the venues they're visiting on this tour??
Sounds very unlikely, imho.
I think they have some minimum specs for the sound equipment that they require from a venue to even consider playing there, and that they bring a hand-picked engineer to execute the shows soundwise, independently of where they play.
Still, problems will occur from time to time. And not all venues are capable of delivering good sound - even if the equipment itself is top-notch. Difficult accoustic conditions could be one reason.
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 13:47:00 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
Dean - that's no excuse ;)
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 13:28:53 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains, NY
re: "reharmonizing the song"
I call it "variations on a theme." But yes, those piano and rhodes intros have been around with Dan since 2000 or so.
Ted Baker was very good at it as well. See Josie, 2VN tour. (anything else with him?)
Donald's reharmonizations are fun but kind of clunky. In the past, he's done it on Dirty Work, Black Friday, Bodi, Home at Last and probably some others.
Jim Beard did one for Green Flower Street on the Dukes tour.
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 12:53:04 ET
Posted by: a muso, MD
My post got lost in the recent board mess (unless hoops banned my post).
Answering Basicinstinct about Beard's unknown solo just before Josie:
The answer is that it IS Josie -- just a radically reharmonized version of it. If you listen closely you can hear fragments of the song (although audiences never seem to catch on and think he is just playing without structure). Fagen does the same when he does keys before Home At Last -- he is reharmonizing that song. This is one way musicians can show off serious chops. Beard is simply, jaw-droppingly unrivaled at this.
A Muso
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 12:49:51 ET
Posted by: To, Hoops
I assumed that you intentionally disabled posting because of the spam problem.
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 12:24:48 ET
Posted by: SteelyDon, Here at the midWestern World (Chicago)
Why aren't they playing this song at EVERY concert like Peg, Josie
TWO AGAINST NATURE - Title Track = AWESOME LIVE !!!! This tune rocks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LvvyE0z-0E
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 12:12:24 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Sorry for the delay in notifying you, Jim. I was actually in the hospital getting a heart catheterization and didn't get to check in until this morning. I was hoping to see some reports/setlists/etc.
Anyway, I'm happy to hear you are OK, Jim. I was a bit worried when I saw the last post was from two days ago--and this during a tour!
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 11:04:42 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, N22 in Mineola
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TWW8lMNQag&feature=feedwll&list=WL
Not a very good clip, but the description is priceless!!
When will they learn?
Date: Fri, August 05, 2011, 10:21:38 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Hey there...
Thanks to Dean, Doc, Jim K and especially Jazzassasin for contacting me. There was a typo in the BlueBook that prevented the posting page from appearing. Please don't wait so long to let me know if there are problems...the problem occurred almost two days ago....can't believe no one said anything until this morning.
I received several emails with comments such as "The posting page won't come up...have I been banned?" to "Why did you take down the Blue?" Really...it's not that personal! Yikes!
Now how about those set lists?
Best wishes and many thanks for your patience,
Jim
Date: Wed, August 03, 2011, 14:52:33 ET
Posted by: Dr. H�nd, Colorado
STEELY DAN @ ASPEN/SNOWMASS. Marriott Group Rate for two nights (Fri., 9-2/Sat., 9-3). Check out noon Sun., 9-4. New Courtyard by Marriott in beautiful Glenwood Springs. Walking distance to restaurants, pubs, Target @ The Last Mall (Meadows) in Roaring Fork Valley. Transportation up & back to Jazz Aspen Snowmass Labor Day Festival on 9-3. You are responsible for your own concert tickets.
Show schedule: Ryan Bingham and The Dead Horses 3pm. Rodrigo Y Gabriela 5pm. Steely Dan 7:15 pm. This has to be the strangest non-sensible triple bill since the 60's but what great music!
Glenwood is more chill than Aspen/Snowmass and you don't have to pay ridiculous prices for an old lodging property. This new Marriott has everything & the next door restaurants are yum from Moe's Mexican to sushi. EZ parking, Red Mountain trails right outside back door!
If interested, contact dr99hund @ comcast.net for more information & Marriott discount code. Limited Availability - First Come, First Serve. You will book directly through Marriott & can use your reward points if desired.
We are also thinking about a reception on Friday night if enough peeps are interested so let me know your thoughts on this. This will be a blast. Transportation will get us to the festival before Ryan Bingham and his fine band take the stage.
Date: Wed, August 03, 2011, 12:30:04 ET
Posted by: game, Q
Even for a hard core like me, this wasn't too easy.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2011/08/02/138830483/name-that-drum-fill-pt-iii
Date: Wed, August 03, 2011, 12:29:54 ET
Posted by: anymanleft, rio grande
What's going on with all the pharmaceutical propaganda? Has this site turned into a drug company blog?? Somebody stop the madness...
Date: Wed, August 03, 2011, 12:16:22 ET
Posted by: bassicinstinct, Nottingham UK
al,boston:
Merriweather Post Pavilion (Columbia, Maryland) - August 2. Steely Dan played for 2 hours, 10 minutes. I am not sure about the jazzy intro piece or the instrumental ender, but here are the others:
Your Gold Teeth
AJA
Black Friday
Hey 19
Everything Must Go
Time Out of Mind
I Got the News
Show Biz Kids
Bodhisattva
Babylon Sisters
Godwhacker
Dirty Work
Papa Don't Take no Mess (band introductions)
Jim Beard keyboard solo (fantastic--not sure what it was)
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Reeling in the Years
Encore - Kid Charlemagne
Date: Wed, August 03, 2011, 11:58:24 ET
Posted by: al, boston
Flipkid- The setlist was already listed? Which drug ad is it after?
Date: Wed, August 03, 2011, 10:14:03 ET
Posted by: It's, Like This
A favorite technique in rock music is to use pulse disassociation to throw the listener off as to the downbeat, upbeat, etc. "Money in Your Soul" is a great example of this with the first few bars of handclaps on 3 changing to 4 for the rest of the tune. What are some other examples of this technique?
Date: Wed, August 03, 2011, 08:20:44 ET
Posted by: Flipkid, Blue State
Last night's show at Merriweather was amazing. The set list has already been posted so I won't belabor that, except to say that we got Your Gold Teeth, Everything Must Go AND Godwhacker, and the super-funked-up Show Biz Kids.
And in all of the times I've seen them live (including Donald's solo tour for Morph) this is easily the most animated and gergarious I've ever seen Donald or Walter. What a treat!
Date: Wed, August 03, 2011, 03:32:48 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu, RIC
From where I enjoyed the show in Portsmouth, about halfway back in the seats, there was no problem at all with the sound. FWIW. Not sure what that's about.
Date: Wed, August 03, 2011, 01:13:06 ET
Posted by: Augusta, DC Native
Merriweather Post Pavilion (Columbia, Maryland) - August 2. Steely Dan played for 2 hours, 10 minutes. I am not sure about the jazzy intro piece or the instrumental ender, but here are the others:
Your Gold Teeth
AJA
Black Friday
Hey 19
Everything Must Go
Time Out of Mind
I Got the News
Show Biz Kids
Bodhisattva
Babylon Sisters
Godwhacker
Dirty Work
Papa Don't Take no Mess (band introductions)
Jim Beard keyboard solo (fantastic--not sure what it was)
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Reeling in the Years
Encore - Kid Charlemagne
Walter WAS using a stool for parts of the concert and seemed subdued at first. He became more animated as the show progressed and seemed really touched and appreciative of the audience reaction just before the encore.
Noting previous comments about this, tonight Donald did not seem to be on weed. It appeared to me that he may have stumbled on some of the words early on AJA, but I could be wrong about that. His voice was strong, he was slamming that keyboard, and he played the melodica on several numbers. He was very intense.
Carlock and Herington were ever present and amazing, as was the EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL IN THE BAND and the very talented back-up vocalists. Everyone had a moment to shine.
Date: Tues, August 02, 2011, 23:13:15 ET
Posted by: Bob, Anytown
What happened to Walter B?
Whats this I'm hearing he's using a stool?
Date: Tues, August 02, 2011, 22:01:02 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Pix - Well I guess I'm glad I wasn't able to make that one. Sorry it wasn't what it easily could have been. Really a shame.
Yeah we'll definitely meet up if there's another Dukes show nearby.
Are the boys smokin' before the show? We can only hope so. I mean at their age they need all the pain killers they can get. Both physical and mental!
Mary! Shut the damn door!
Date: Tues, August 02, 2011, 21:30:19 ET
Posted by: Tony, LBI
I really enjoyed The Borgata A.C. concert. Don cracks me up. Embassy Brats. They are unbelievable.. This band is smoking, and I think on top of their game. Great show.
Date: Tues, August 02, 2011, 21:27:28 ET
Posted by: It's, Like This
The spammer is the sound guy from the Portsmouth show.
Date: Tues, August 02, 2011, 14:19:25 ET
Posted by: MN, NC
Can we get a setlist from last night???
Date: Tues, August 02, 2011, 14:10:22 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Absolutely agree with the previous poster regarding the sound at last night's show in Portsmouth. We had seats dead-center in front of the sound board and the sound was just horrible.
Donald and Walter gave us a great show; Jon and Keith were incredible as were the ladies.
Too bad the sound man had his head up his butt,or elsewhere........
Doubt that we will be going to any shows there ever again.
Hutch:
Sorry that you won't be able to go to any shows this year. Maybe when the Dukes tour starts early next year (hopefully).....we can meet up.
Date: Tues, August 02, 2011, 13:22:41 ET
Posted by: RAllen1st, Stafford, VA
Was at the Steely Dan concert in Portsmouth on the first. The venue since someone asked was meh.. o'k not terribly impressed though. Donald and Walter were wonderful Walter cracked everyone up with his "raps". They, the band and ladies were great... great set nice selection of tunes... kind of bummed they didn't do my all time fave "Do It Again", oh well the show was still great. BUT... I hope Donald and Walter get to listen to tapes of the show... cause when they do they'll hear what an AWFUL AWFUL job the sound man did... he should be strung up by his thumbs or at least fired. You could NOT hear the vocals... the band drowned out the vocals... noticed that Donald and the back-up singers were straining to be heard. Others around me said the same... with the rich wonderful lyrics of Steely Dan, is was a damn shame we couldn't enjoy them since we couldn't hear them. Of the band Jon Herington on guitar really blew me away... considering that he had very very big shoes to fill... and was playing live the man nailed it... mucho props big time. Also, Keith Carlock on drums we amazing absolutely amazing... the strength and stamina alone were impressive... he really wailed on those drums for two hours... wow! Been a fan for nearly 40 years (since Can't Buy A Thrill was released) so glad I finally got to see one of my all time favorite bands live. Really really good show... but guys... seriously, please get a new sound-man than can actually hear the mix we in the audience hear.
Date: Tues, August 02, 2011, 11:14:39 ET
Posted by: kenny,
speaking of pretzel logic, the dukes did the song in new york at the beacon for the december shows.
donald did the first verse and boz did the rest, with mike doing the stop time.
p.s pretzel logic was also performed in 2006 for the last show in st louis.( mike's hometown).mike did the stop time as well.
Date: Tues, August 02, 2011, 10:56:35 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Pixeleen - Sadly I'm not able to make any shows this year. How was it? I've never been to the Ntelos Pavilion in Portsmouth but I've had a couple of friends tell me they didn't care for the venue. Looks like a cool place with the white tent-like covering. Was the sound ok?
Anything unusual in the setlist?
Date: Tues, August 02, 2011, 07:45:47 ET
Posted by: Michael,
Lurker Ray, well then, let's hope that Don can finish mixing it before 2012 rolls around. Otherwise, may as well wait around 'till 2017 or something when he finally has the liberty of time.
To be honest, mixing an album isn't a very complicated procedure. Sure, it requires precision and a good ear for nuances, but it's not as robust as you might think.
...That is, until Donald Fagen walks into the picture. That F# on the 4th downbeat of measure #47 doesn't quite bring out the irony of the piece. "Ok, throw out the track. Let's do it all over from scratch." ARGH! May as well bring in some androids to get the precision Donald is looking for.
Nah, he's not that bad.
Date: Tues, August 02, 2011, 05:22:13 ET
Posted by: PeteB, UK
@The Dean: "True to the original but not an exact copy"
- Yes, "refreshing" is the word, I believe!
Date: Mon, August 01, 2011, 22:22:31 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
It's like this, that was fucking brilliant. I'm still laughing. The lead singer had more than a bit of trouble with "technicolor motorhome" as well as a few others. Loved the girls. And actually, I liked what the guitarist did with the solos. True to the original but not an exact copy.
Date: Mon, August 01, 2011, 21:41:27 ET
Posted by: It's, Like This
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdra3KAqvMo&feature=related
Date: Mon, August 01, 2011, 21:35:17 ET
Posted by: It's, Like This
Is Walter wearing one of those two piece torso casts?...looks like it in that Pretzel Logic video from Canadaigua - or is it just "His Ampleness" (you know, like "The Donald").
Date: Mon, August 01, 2011, 18:52:51 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Still in Bel Air - Man It's A Hot One Today.....
Hey Dan!
I guess I meant "live" in concert
and not in a "studio" live.
I've racked my brain and I can't think
of another time when "live in concert"
a gal has sung the stop-time????
Still love when Donald does it the best
like the one time in San Jose in 2009.
BTW there is a new up for you all.
Enjoy!
Date: Mon, August 01, 2011, 18:50:57 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Searching for a Cocktail
I'm not sure why, but I expected Catherine Russell to sing that section in Pretzel Logic as I was listening to it. With that said, I thought Carolyn did a great job and I wasn't disappointed at all.
Date: Mon, August 01, 2011, 18:42:56 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY
Lurker Ray, didn't the ladies sing that section back in '00 on the live DVD?
Date: Mon, August 01, 2011, 17:55:24 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Bel Air - At The Office, Get Me To The Water!
So still no conclusive Foxwoods set list?!
Tsk, tsk....
I find it remarkable that NO ONE has
addressed that the two times that
Pretzel Logic has been played this year
since the last ONE 2009 outing, that
FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, the stop-time
at the end as been sung by a woman!
Carolyn sang it. It's always either
been sung by Michael McD, Jeff or Donald.
Donald tore it up the last outing at
Internet Request Night in 2009 in
San Jose. Wonder why he gave it to
Carolyn? It just didn't have the same
"punch" in my opinion.
Michael,
I would have to totally agree with Dean
on this one. Donald and Walter will
NEVER release something until they are
good and ready. And I think chances are
nil to nadda that you would hear a new
Donald Fagen solo track during the upcoming
Dukes 2 tour.
Date: Mon, August 01, 2011, 16:55:29 ET
Posted by: Jungle Music, Sweden, Texas
Tivoli was a working group in Reykjavik back in the 70's, playing dance music, mostly covers. Two of the members in the video, the keyboardist and the guitarist (well, one of them) went on to form a fusion group called Mezzoforte in the 80's. Mezzoforte still tour and show up in places like Indonesia, Japan and Norway every once in a while.
Date: Mon, August 01, 2011, 16:45:56 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH
Where do people meet up before Beacon, N.Y. shows? I'll be there!
Date: Mon, August 01, 2011, 15:32:26 ET
Posted by: PGE, ddelivering some 1978 "heat" from Iceland/Island
Haven't heard of these before and just posted on YouTube; The band Tivoli covering two Steely Dan songs on Icelandic television back in the day:
Don't Take Me Alive:
http://youtu.be/BBJGKNYEQ5U
Josie:
http://youtu.be/5SrhOdU4TtE
I am sure someone In the know can add to this post aboutr the band etc.
/PGE
Where do people meet up before Beacon, N.Y. shows? I'll be there!
Date: Mon, August 01, 2011, 14:39:18 ET
Posted by: ygk, nyc
Had the Funn Fortune to see a Steely Dan half hour clip from Rent Party '09 on MSG. Not a lot of music but that was ok...of particular note was Walter & Donalds banter with the interviewer about the "Request Nights", and Walter clarifying how they work.
A bastardized quote, this is...: "It's like the Electoral College curing the Gore/Bush Election: just because a song is voted for overwhelmingly doesn't necessarily mean that we'll actually play it."
ha.
ygk
Date: Mon, August 01, 2011, 14:28:51 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Hutch:
Are you going to the Portsmouth show tonight???
We have Gold Circle seats but will try to hang out by the sound board before the show.
Will have our Steely Dan "09" t-shirts on......
Hope to see you there.
Date: Mon, August 01, 2011, 14:06:43 ET
Posted by: KD, asdef
I just wish Walter wouldn't confuse inappropriate sales for 'Circus Money' for a sign that we don't care. I listen to that album, all the way through, more than any SD release over the last two years.
His tour missives were incredibly influential to me, and this is the part where I say something profound, and this is the part where I just re-iterate that I miss Walter Becker writing online.
Date: Mon, August 01, 2011, 13:46:32 ET
Posted by: marblesmike, NJ
I was at Tanglewood and can confirm that Monkey was NOT played.
I'm going to Royal Scam at the Beacon for sure, but in hopes of seeing some Katy Lied played live, trying to also attend the Rarities show. Do you Dan enthusiasts think the prospects of getting Dr Wu or Bad Sneakers are pretty good? Any general speculation on what will be played on rarities night? I'm assuming they'll play The Bear again. Thoughts?
Date: Mon, August 01, 2011, 10:48:40 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -
Today is the international "Wayne Krantz's Great Pagoda Solo Appreciation Day". Just wanted to remind everybody.
*
Jazzassin:
Pass that diesel already!
Date: Mon, August 01, 2011, 10:24:37 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, HARRISBURG PA
Updraught, sorry to hear about Walter siitng on the F*ckn stool
during large parts of the show, from past experiences this is
not a good look and can be a bit of a buzz-kill!!! Albeit it
certainly beats canceling the shows!! Bottom line get well soon
uncle Walter!!!Ps: there is this thing they call pain-killers!!!!!
OK everyone flame away, I said something almost negative and we
cant have that!!!6-weeks to the Tower shows!!!To the crimson tide
fan or alumni as I am, I will be at the penn state v alabama game!!
Hopefull the tide will crush PSU!!!
Date: Mon, August 01, 2011, 08:36:35 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, talkin' to da hand
@Sigma Kauai,
You wrote:
"Messrs Jazzassin and Goblinjazz UK Esquire
Do you two numbskulls really think that Messrs Fagen and Becker would read or more importantly ever care about anything written at this Steely Dan Frat House. You got to be kidding. Just what are two smoking across the way? Hope you will share."
I didn't think so, until I read that review.
And I think the purpose was nothing but a bit of good-spirited fun.
But when similarities and possible connections goes from vague to overwhelming, I just don't think they're random. I think they're intentional.
To me, the whole thing gets even more entertaining when I notice that other fans don't agree / don't want to see it... :D
New York Diesel, btw. A white Avondale would go excellent along with it, I'm sure.
Date: Sun, July 31, 2011, 22:52:42 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
As Michael notes, Don said he would be mixing the album after the tour. But we all know Don's timelines typically don't pan out. And you KNOW he won't rush the thing (thankfully). So while it is possible the thing might be released before the Dukes tour, I won't hold my breath.
As for playing songs from the new one on the Dukes tour, I seriously doubt that will happen. That isn't what the Dukes' shows are about. (None of the Dukes played any of their new stuff last tour, did they?) And, that really isn't Don's style, anyway. I think he played ONE song from Morph during the Fagen Band concert I saw in Oakland (perhaps he played two). Also remember, The Dan played NONE of Circus Money during their tour in '08. Of course it could happen, but I think it's a real long-shot.
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